Robert, Yes I did read this and you make a good point. If we must enter it as a marriage in order to get in the appropriate person's "time line" then do so and use the best approximate date one can for it. I don't much care for calling these "marriages" because that implies so much more than what was real, but if that is what we have to do, let's just explain as best we can. Many thanks, Craig On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Robert N. Grant wrote: > Craig, > > From the other responses to your question, I see that you were focused > on the listing problems specifically with Ancestry.com and not the > general presentation issue. Regretfully, my comments are of no help on > that specific issue. > > BobGrant > > On 10/26/2012 5:20 PM, Robert N. Grant wrote: >> Craig, >> >> I hope this is responsive to your question. I have not tried to do this >> on the Northern Neck tree on Ancestry.com, but I had one of the problems >> of presentation that you refer to in one Wright family in Rockbridge County. >> >> 1858 (year of death) Richard Jordan Wright of Rockbridge County, VA, >> (place of death) was the son of 1804 Jordan Wright of Amherst County, >> VA, and grandson of 1814/17 Parmenos Wright of Nelson County, VA. 1858 >> Richard Jordan Wright had a number of female slaves by whom he had >> children. The birth records list him as the father and the female slave >> as the mother. >> >> In the presentation for 1858 Richard's family in the descendants chart, >> I listed each female slave as if she were a wife, indicated her slave >> status, and then listed the children under that wife's name. Since >> there were no marriage dates, I listed the slaves in order based on who >> had the earliest child. The concept was to treat the slave mother as if >> she were a spouse, even thoughno marriage occurred, and to treat the >> children as descendants, even though held by the father as slaves. The >> presentation appeared as set forth below (and hopefully the tabbling >> will work properly): >> >> In any event, that was my approach in this case. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Robert N. Grant >> >> >> >> Descendants Chart for 1858 Richard Jordan Wright of Rockbridge County, VA: >> >> Richard Jordan Wright >> B c. 1801 or 1803 & before Nov 21, 1804 @ Virginia >> Res Apr 28, 1825 & Nov 21, 1825 & Feb 20, 1828 & Apr 9, 1829 & Mar 27, >> 1830 @ Amherst County, Virginia >> Res 1830 & 1840 & 1850 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> M None >> D Apr 10, 1858 @ Greenlee's Ferry, Rockbridge County, Virginia >> >> (Farmer in 1850) >> >> 1st Vina >> B >> M None >> D >> >> (A slave in 1853) >> >> ..........(1 child in 4th generation) >> >> ..........(1) William Wright >> .......... B Mar 1853 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........( A slave in 1853) >> >> 2nd Cansander or Casandra >> B >> M None >> D >> >> (A slave in 1853 & 1857) >> >> ..........(3 children in 4th generation) >> >> ..........(1) Simon Wright >> .......... B Oct 1853 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........(A slave in 1853) >> >> ..........(2) Romulus Wright >> .......... B Sep 1857 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........(Twin; a slave in 1857) >> >> ..........(3) Remus Wright >> .......... B Sep 1857 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........(Twin; a slave in 1857) >> >> 3rd Hannah >> B >> M None >> D >> >> (A slave in 1853 & 1856) >> >> ..........(2 children in 4th generation) >> >> ..........(1) Susan Wright >> .......... B Dec 1853 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........( A slave in 1853) >> >> ..........(2)_____ Wright >> .......... B Oct 1856 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........(A slave in 1856) >> >> 4th Lucy >> B >> M None >> D >> >> (A slave in 1857) >> >> ..........(1 child in 4th generation) >> >> ..........(1) Jesse Wright >> .......... B Jan 1857 @ Rockbridge County, Virginia >> .......... M >> .......... D >> >> ..........(A slave in 1857) >> >> >> >> On 10/26/2012 4:33 PM, Craig Kilby wrote: >>> Boy, I'm disappointed that I have not received one single word on how others are handling divorces, unmarried couple having children, interracial marriages, slave masters begetting children on slave women on the ancestry tree? Am I alone here in dealing with these things? >>> >>> Is this just a taboo topic? Surely out of this group there must be some experience with how they treat these things on the ancestry trees. Isn't this what this list all about? You don't have to be SPECIFIC as in NAMES, but how you work around it on the tree(s) would be useful for to know. Well, it would sure be useful for me to know. I'm kind of walking into new territory here. Could use some help. >>> >>> Craig >>> > > -- > Robert N. Grant > Grant & Gordon, LLP > 525 University Avenue Suite 1325 > Palo Alto, CA 94301 > Phone Number: 650-614-3800 > Fax Number: 650-614-3810 > Email: rngrant@grantandgordon.com > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail transmission from Grant & Gordon, LLP, is confidential and may also be legally privileged as an attorney-client communication and/or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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