To this same line for Donald E King, add: SMITH, Robert d 1661 Northumberland (emigrant) On Oct 25, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > > Don, > > This line will be in the next update: > > KING, Arthur 1600s Westmoreland: Donald E King > > > > Jim Bartlett > >

Janean Even if we all understood everything about the DNA, we still have to contact our Matches; share ancestry info; and determine the Common Ancestor(s)! It's really that simple! The DNA includes detailed information from your ancestors, but it doesn't know any names, dates, places, generations, etc. only the genealogist can put a "face", so to speak, on the story the DNA has. Whether we understand it or not, the testing companies have designed the tests so the Matches are our cousins, and we can contact them. That leads directly to the next step in all DNA testing - contacting our Matches and putting a "face" on our Common Ancestors. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:37 AM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > I only got as far as disecting the frog. LOL Being A.D.D. this is all a > lot to wrap my mind around but I'm trying bit by bit. Its easier for me to > just say "I don't need to know HOW it works, here's my stuff, test it and > let me know who I connect to" which is hard for someone like me who has to > have a reason for everything and to understand WHY something "is" before I > believe it. But its like my husband with this garden....... He likes me to > get involved and watch it grow and harvest it. I say I don't care how it > gets ON my table let's just sit down and eat. Yadda yadda yadda. LOL But > I am trying. It will sink in eventually > > > Janean

Don, This line will be in the next update: KING, Arthur 1600s Westmoreland: Donald E King Jim Bartlett On 10/25/12, King Donald E<donaldeking@me.com> wrote: Are you missing King, Arthur? Don On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > > Ok - I've compiled all the NN Patriarches into one alpha list, and put them > all in the same format. The idea is to have an easy to scan list, and to > recognize your own Ancestor is he/she is on this list. The list is not > intended to convey all the info about this ancestor, or even be 100% correct > - just recognizable. However, I will make corrections. This list is only for > folks who are in the NN DNA Group. If you are not a member of that Group, > you are encouraged and welcome to contact the individuals and/or to > contribute information about the Ancestors and/or post names and > documentation in the NN Tree. > > If you joined the NN DNA Group, and don't see your ancestors on this list, > please post them here or email me (sorry if I've missed any lists over the > past few days). The format should be very clear from the list below - it > will save me a lot of time if you will submit your names in this format. > The plan is to add this list to the NN DNA Group public website. > > We now have 20 participants, with more in the wings. If you haven't given me > permission to list your name, email and Kit number, please do that, or tell > me explicitly what you don't want to be public. > > Also, if you have a public Tree, at Ancestry, WorldConnect, or elsewhere, > please post or send me a link. Participants are strongly encouraged to > upload a GEDcom to their FTDNA account. It really helps your matches find a > Common Ancestor. > > Anyway, here's the list so far: > > Northern Neck of Virginia Ancestors for DNA > > > BAILEY, Joseph c1620-c1674 Lancaster: Donna Price > > BALL, Benjamin 1719 Middlesex-1807 Fauquier: Jude Degan > > BALL, Edward c1670?-1726 Middlesex: Jude Degan > > BALL, William 1641-1694 Lancaster: David Brown > > BERRY, Thomas c1683-1743 Northumberland: David Brown > > BLACKWELL: Mary West Rumora > > BONUM, Rebecca d c715 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > BRENT, Hugh d 1671 Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > BRIGGS, Ralph c1640-c1689 Lancaster: Donna Price > > BUSH, Abraham d 1686/1687 Lancaster: David Brown > > BYSSHE (BISH), Ursula d c1661 Northumberland: David Brown > > CAMMOCK, Mary 1700s Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr > > CARROLL, Daniel 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr > > CHILTON, Jesse 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > COCKRILL, John d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown > > CONWAY, Col. Edwin c1610-1660/61 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter > CREEL, Thomas 1685-1727 Richmond: Jude Degan > > CREEL, William 1712-1757 Richmond, Prince William: Jude Degan > > CREELE, John c1656 England-c 1720 Northumberland: Jude Degan > > DAMERON, Lawrence c1615-1660 Northumberland: David Brown > > DICKERSON, Thomas c1690s-1734 Essex: James V Bartlett Jr > > DODSON, Charles Joseph c 1649 Lancaster-1705 Richmond: Jude Degan > > DODSON, Jesse c 1623-1655 Jamestown, Old Rappahannock (later Richmond) : > Jude Degan > > DODSON, Thomas 1681-1740 Richmond: Jude Degan > > DOWNING, Capt William 1700s Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr; Mary West > Rumora > > DURHAM, Thomas 1661-1716 Richmond: Jude Degan > > ESKRIDGE, George d 1735 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > FRANK, Robert Sr d 1725 Westmoreland: David Brown > > GARLINGTON, Christopher d Aft 1658 Northumberland: David Brown > > GILSON, Behethland 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > GRAVES, Thomas 1580-1635 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr > > HAINES, Elinore 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > HARRIS, John d c1707 Northumberland: David Brown > > HATHAWAY, William 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr > > HAWKINS, John 1680-1740 Essex, Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr > > HAYNIE, John c1624 - 1697 Northumberland: David Brown > > HILL, Charles c1620-c1659: Donna Price > > INGRAM, Thomas d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown > > JOHNSON, William d c1745 Middlesex: Donna Price > > JONES: Mary West Rumora > > LAWSON, Roland 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr > > MARSHALL, Thomas d 1704 Westmoreland: Ann Avery Hunter > MARSHALL, Sarah d 1726 Westmoreland: David Brown > > McNEALE(E), John 1744-1787 Middlesex, Fauquier: Jude Degan > > MITCHELL, William c1670-c1792 Lancaster: Donna Price > > MOREHEAD, Alexander d 1744 Northumberland: David Brown > > MORRIS, Nicholas d 1664 Northumberland: David Brown; Mary West Rumora > > NEWSUM, Robert 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > NEWTON, Thomas 1678 -1727 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > OWEN, Augustine c1680-c1725 Middlesex: Jude Degan > > PACE, John d 1717 Middlesex: Donna Price > > PAYNE, John d 1689/90 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter > > PINCKARD: Mary West Rumora > PRESLEY, William d c1656 Northumberland: David Brown > > PROCTOR, George d c1735 Richmond, King George: David Brown > > SANFORD, John Sr 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr > > SHARP, Elias d 1745 King George: David Brown > > SMITH, John d 1669 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter > SMOOT, William c1652-1716 Essex or Richmond: Jude Degan > > SPENCE, David d 1726 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr > > STEPTOE: Mary West Rumora > > STONE: Mary West Rumora > > STORKE, Nehemiah 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > THACKER, Henry d c1681 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter > THOMPSON, Richard d c1649 Northumberland: David Brown > > TIMBERLAKE, Francis 1687-1727 Middlesex, Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr > > VIVION, John d 1705 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter > > WALKER, Col. John c1601-1668/69 Rappahannock: Ann Avery Hunter > > WELCH, John 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr > > WILLIAMS, William d 1712 Essex: Ann Avery Hunter > > WILLIAMSON, Margaret d 1709 Lancaster: David Brown > > WILLIS, William 1690-1716 Richmond : James V Bartlett Jr > > WRIGHT, Francis c1640-c1690 Lancaster: Donna Price; Robert Grant > > > > Jim Bartlett > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-N[1]ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-N[2]ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com

Well give me the information to look it up and possibly join. Its dependent upon the cost. Maybe at a later date I can swing it we'll see. Janean -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:14 PM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean, That's where the Family Finder test comes in. I'ts' different than the Y or mt DNA tests You can take the Family Finder test. It relies on the DNA you got from your 2 parents, which they got from their parents with they got from you 8 great grandparents, etc, etc. The Family Finder samples over 95 percent of your DNA (just not the Y, X, or mt). It's very good back 5 or 6 generations, and it also works, sometimes, back to 10-11 generations. I've found four 10th cousins with this test. the genders flip flop from female to male and back again many times from me back to those Common Ancestor. We can guarantee a link back to a particular ancestor or a particular cousin, but we can guarantee that you will get matches from your Colonial America ancestors. Jim Bartlett On 10/23/12, Janean Ray<jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: Ok well then a lot of my lines I will have to defer to those who CAN take the test and who are closer related to me down the line because most of my lines for example of the Chinn line go from me....... Female, male, female, female, male, male, female, female, male, male, male, male and on back. All my lines in the Northern Neck come through my father - through his mother, and her mother. So I'll have to wait to find someone that might be related to my proven line to know where I fit in to things. Janean Ray ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I only got as far as disecting the frog. LOL Being A.D.D. this is all a lot to wrap my mind around but I'm trying bit by bit. Its easier for me to just say "I don't need to know HOW it works, here's my stuff, test it and let me know who I connect to" which is hard for someone like me who has to have a reason for everything and to understand WHY something "is" before I believe it. But its like my husband with this garden....... He likes me to get involved and watch it grow and harvest it. I say I don't care how it gets ON my table let's just sit down and eat. Yadda yadda yadda. LOL But I am trying. It will sink in eventually Janean -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Brien Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:45 PM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] A Little Biology As a retired biology teacher I just can't resist including a bit of biology. We have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes, including the pair that either have two X chromosomes for girls or an XY pair for boys. In addition to DNA in chromosomes, the powerhouses of the cell, the mitochondria, also have DNA. All body cells have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes. The 23rd pair has XX pair for a female and XY pair for a male. A sperm or egg, has only 23 SINGLE chromosomes, unlike the body cells. Each sperm wil have only either the X chromosome, producing a daughter or a Y-chromosome, producing a son. Each egg has only an X chromosome which is passed on to both sons and daughters. The resulting daughter from fertilization by a sperm with the X-chromosome gets an X chromosome from her mother and an X chromosome from her father. A sperm that has the Y-chromosome passes it along to a son who then has a Y chromosome from his father and a X-chromosome from his mother. y-DNA -Only boys have y-DNA that came from the Y-chromosome from their father and will pass on that y-dna on the Y-chromosome that produces a son. Since surnames follow male children this is very useful in genealogy. Mitochondrial DNA is present, not in the chromosomes but in the powerhouses of the cell, the mitochondria. The female passes on this mitochondrial DNA in the egg to all of her children, whether boys or girls. But, this mitochondrial DNA is NOT present in the genetic material in the sperm that is passed on to the children of this boy. It is only the girls who have eggs who will pass on the mitochondrial DNA to the next generation. So, the link would be from mother to daughter to daughter to daughter, etc. The autosomal DNA includes all of our DNA that we inherit from both parents and will be passed on to all of our children in unique mixtures. Keep in mind that the selection of DNA is random and not cummulative. We have no more DNA than any of our ancestors, just a different mixture. Common fragments and differences when analyzed can indicate common ancestry and lineage. Marilyn Brien . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Craig, Sorry the URL below doesn't work because it is duplicated. I tried entering only one segment of it and it worked ok for me. Bob Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:27:33 -0400 From: Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com<mailto:persisto1@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Thomas Carter Prayer Book To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com<mailto:va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F5719D10-63A3-4157-AC09-823FFD46C309@gmail.com<mailto:F5719D10-63A3-4157-AC09-823FFD46C309@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bob, HURRAH! It's done at last! Thanks for the notice. Craig On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Robert Lumsden wrote: > > Historic Christ Church, Irvington, Virginia has a new publication for sale in the gift shop and by mail order: > "Known By The Company They Keep: An Analysis of the Thomas Carter Prayer Book Entries<>," by > Robert D. Lumsden. Detailed examination into the lives and personalities of members and friends of the Thomas Carter family of Lancaster County in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. Uses a birth date/baptism list and other entries in Thomas Carter's 1662 Book of Common Prayer to profile his and wife Katharine Carter's children and grandchildren and their spouses and godparents. Includes many photographs, abstracts of court orders, deeds, wills and other records and a family chart foldout. 2012. To order a copy go to: > http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html<http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html<http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html%3Chttp://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html>> > Bob Lumsden, Foundation for Historic Christ Church volunteer. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of VA-NORTHERN-NECK Digest, Vol 4, Issue 171 ************************************************

Are you missing King, Arthur? Don On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > > Ok - I've compiled all the NN Patriarches into one alpha list, and put them > all in the same format. The idea is to have an easy to scan list, and to > recognize your own Ancestor is he/she is on this list. The list is not > intended to convey all the info about this ancestor, or even be 100% correct > - just recognizable. However, I will make corrections. This list is only for > folks who are in the NN DNA Group. If you are not a member of that Group, > you are encouraged and welcome to contact the individuals and/or to > contribute information about the Ancestors and/or post names and > documentation in the NN Tree. > > If you joined the NN DNA Group, and don't see your ancestors on this list, > please post them here or email me (sorry if I've missed any lists over the > past few days). The format should be very clear from the list below - it > will save me a lot of time if you will submit your names in this format. > The plan is to add this list to the NN DNA Group public website. > > We now have 20 participants, with more in the wings. If you haven't given me > permission to list your name, email and Kit number, please do that, or tell > me explicitly what you don't want to be public. > > Also, if you have a public Tree, at Ancestry, WorldConnect, or elsewhere, > please post or send me a link. Participants are strongly encouraged to > upload a GEDcom to their FTDNA account. It really helps your matches find a > Common Ancestor. > > Anyway, here's the list so far: > > Northern Neck of Virginia Ancestors for DNA > > > BAILEY, Joseph c1620-c1674 Lancaster: Donna Price > > BALL, Benjamin 1719 Middlesex-1807 Fauquier: Jude Degan > > BALL, Edward c1670?-1726 Middlesex: Jude Degan > > BALL, William 1641-1694 Lancaster: David Brown > > BERRY, Thomas c1683-1743 Northumberland: David Brown > > BLACKWELL: Mary West Rumora > > BONUM, Rebecca d c715 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > BRENT, Hugh d 1671 Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > BRIGGS, Ralph c1640-c1689 Lancaster: Donna Price > > BUSH, Abraham d 1686/1687 Lancaster: David Brown > > BYSSHE (BISH), Ursula d c1661 Northumberland: David Brown > > CAMMOCK, Mary 1700s Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr > > CARROLL, Daniel 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr > > CHILTON, Jesse 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > COCKRILL, John d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown > > CONWAY, Col. Edwin c1610-1660/61 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter > CREEL, Thomas 1685-1727 Richmond: Jude Degan > > CREEL, William 1712-1757 Richmond, Prince William: Jude Degan > > CREELE, John c1656 England-c 1720 Northumberland: Jude Degan > > DAMERON, Lawrence c1615-1660 Northumberland: David Brown > > DICKERSON, Thomas c1690s-1734 Essex: James V Bartlett Jr > > DODSON, Charles Joseph c 1649 Lancaster-1705 Richmond: Jude Degan > > DODSON, Jesse c 1623-1655 Jamestown, Old Rappahannock (later Richmond) : > Jude Degan > > DODSON, Thomas 1681-1740 Richmond: Jude Degan > > DOWNING, Capt William 1700s Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr; Mary West > Rumora > > DURHAM, Thomas 1661-1716 Richmond: Jude Degan > > ESKRIDGE, George d 1735 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > FRANK, Robert Sr d 1725 Westmoreland: David Brown > > GARLINGTON, Christopher d Aft 1658 Northumberland: David Brown > > GILSON, Behethland 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > GRAVES, Thomas 1580-1635 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr > > HAINES, Elinore 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > HARRIS, John d c1707 Northumberland: David Brown > > HATHAWAY, William 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr > > HAWKINS, John 1680-1740 Essex, Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr > > HAYNIE, John c1624 - 1697 Northumberland: David Brown > > HILL, Charles c1620-c1659: Donna Price > > INGRAM, Thomas d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown > > JOHNSON, William d c1745 Middlesex: Donna Price > > JONES: Mary West Rumora > > LAWSON, Roland 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr > > MARSHALL, Thomas d 1704 Westmoreland: Ann Avery Hunter > MARSHALL, Sarah d 1726 Westmoreland: David Brown > > McNEALE(E), John 1744-1787 Middlesex, Fauquier: Jude Degan > > MITCHELL, William c1670-c1792 Lancaster: Donna Price > > MOREHEAD, Alexander d 1744 Northumberland: David Brown > > MORRIS, Nicholas d 1664 Northumberland: David Brown; Mary West Rumora > > NEWSUM, Robert 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer > > NEWTON, Thomas 1678 -1727 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > OWEN, Augustine c1680-c1725 Middlesex: Jude Degan > > PACE, John d 1717 Middlesex: Donna Price > > PAYNE, John d 1689/90 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter > > PINCKARD: Mary West Rumora > PRESLEY, William d c1656 Northumberland: David Brown > > PROCTOR, George d c1735 Richmond, King George: David Brown > > SANFORD, John Sr 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr > > SHARP, Elias d 1745 King George: David Brown > > SMITH, John d 1669 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter > SMOOT, William c1652-1716 Essex or Richmond: Jude Degan > > SPENCE, David d 1726 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr > > STEPTOE: Mary West Rumora > > STONE: Mary West Rumora > > STORKE, Nehemiah 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer > > THACKER, Henry d c1681 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter > THOMPSON, Richard d c1649 Northumberland: David Brown > > TIMBERLAKE, Francis 1687-1727 Middlesex, Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr > > VIVION, John d 1705 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter > > WALKER, Col. John c1601-1668/69 Rappahannock: Ann Avery Hunter > > WELCH, John 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr > > WILLIAMS, William d 1712 Essex: Ann Avery Hunter > > WILLIAMSON, Margaret d 1709 Lancaster: David Brown > > WILLIS, William 1690-1716 Richmond : James V Bartlett Jr > > WRIGHT, Francis c1640-c1690 Lancaster: Donna Price; Robert Grant > > > > Jim Bartlett > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, HURRAH! It's done at last! Thanks for the notice. Craig On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Robert Lumsden wrote: > > Historic Christ Church, Irvington, Virginia has a new publication for sale in the gift shop and by mail order: > "Known By The Company They Keep: An Analysis of the Thomas Carter Prayer Book Entries<>," by > Robert D. Lumsden. Detailed examination into the lives and personalities of members and friends of the Thomas Carter family of Lancaster County in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. Uses a birth date/baptism list and other entries in Thomas Carter's 1662 Book of Common Prayer to profile his and wife Katharine Carter's children and grandchildren and their spouses and godparents. Includes many photographs, abstracts of court orders, deeds, wills and other records and a family chart foldout. 2012. To order a copy go to: > http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html<http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html> > Bob Lumsden, Foundation for Historic Christ Church volunteer. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Historic Christ Church, Irvington, Virginia has a new publication for sale in the gift shop and by mail order: "Known By The Company They Keep: An Analysis of the Thomas Carter Prayer Book Entries<>," by Robert D. Lumsden. Detailed examination into the lives and personalities of members and friends of the Thomas Carter family of Lancaster County in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. Uses a birth date/baptism list and other entries in Thomas Carter's 1662 Book of Common Prayer to profile his and wife Katharine Carter's children and grandchildren and their spouses and godparents. Includes many photographs, abstracts of court orders, deeds, wills and other records and a family chart foldout. 2012. To order a copy go to: http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html<http://www.christchurch1735.org/publications.html> Bob Lumsden, Foundation for Historic Christ Curch volunteer.

Ok - I've compiled all the NN Patriarches into one alpha list, and put them all in the same format. The idea is to have an easy to scan list, and to recognize your own Ancestor is he/she is on this list. The list is not intended to convey all the info about this ancestor, or even be 100% correct - just recognizable. However, I will make corrections. This list is only for folks who are in the NN DNA Group. If you are not a member of that Group, you are encouraged and welcome to contact the individuals and/or to contribute information about the Ancestors and/or post names and documentation in the NN Tree. If you joined the NN DNA Group, and don't see your ancestors on this list, please post them here or email me (sorry if I've missed any lists over the past few days). The format should be very clear from the list below - it will save me a lot of time if you will submit your names in this format. The plan is to add this list to the NN DNA Group public website. We now have 20 participants, with more in the wings. If you haven't given me permission to list your name, email and Kit number, please do that, or tell me explicitly what you don't want to be public. Also, if you have a public Tree, at Ancestry, WorldConnect, or elsewhere, please post or send me a link. Participants are strongly encouraged to upload a GEDcom to their FTDNA account. It really helps your matches find a Common Ancestor. Anyway, here's the list so far: Northern Neck of Virginia Ancestors for DNA BAILEY, Joseph c1620-c1674 Lancaster: Donna Price BALL, Benjamin 1719 Middlesex-1807 Fauquier: Jude Degan BALL, Edward c1670?-1726 Middlesex: Jude Degan BALL, William 1641-1694 Lancaster: David Brown BERRY, Thomas c1683-1743 Northumberland: David Brown BLACKWELL: Mary West Rumora BONUM, Rebecca d c715 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer BRENT, Hugh d 1671 Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer BRIGGS, Ralph c1640-c1689 Lancaster: Donna Price BUSH, Abraham d 1686/1687 Lancaster: David Brown BYSSHE (BISH), Ursula d c1661 Northumberland: David Brown CAMMOCK, Mary 1700s Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr CARROLL, Daniel 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr CHILTON, Jesse 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer COCKRILL, John d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown CONWAY, Col. Edwin c1610-1660/61 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter CREEL, Thomas 1685-1727 Richmond: Jude Degan CREEL, William 1712-1757 Richmond, Prince William: Jude Degan CREELE, John c1656 England-c 1720 Northumberland: Jude Degan DAMERON, Lawrence c1615-1660 Northumberland: David Brown DICKERSON, Thomas c1690s-1734 Essex: James V Bartlett Jr DODSON, Charles Joseph c 1649 Lancaster-1705 Richmond: Jude Degan DODSON, Jesse c 1623-1655 Jamestown, Old Rappahannock (later Richmond) : Jude Degan DODSON, Thomas 1681-1740 Richmond: Jude Degan DOWNING, Capt William 1700s Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr; Mary West Rumora DURHAM, Thomas 1661-1716 Richmond: Jude Degan ESKRIDGE, George d 1735 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer FRANK, Robert Sr d 1725 Westmoreland: David Brown GARLINGTON, Christopher d Aft 1658 Northumberland: David Brown GILSON, Behethland 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer GRAVES, Thomas 1580-1635 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr HAINES, Elinore 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer HARRIS, John d c1707 Northumberland: David Brown HATHAWAY, William 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr HAWKINS, John 1680-1740 Essex, Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr HAYNIE, John c1624 - 1697 Northumberland: David Brown HILL, Charles c1620-c1659: Donna Price INGRAM, Thomas d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown JOHNSON, William d c1745 Middlesex: Donna Price JONES: Mary West Rumora LAWSON, Roland 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr MARSHALL, Thomas d 1704 Westmoreland: Ann Avery Hunter MARSHALL, Sarah d 1726 Westmoreland: David Brown McNEALE(E), John 1744-1787 Middlesex, Fauquier: Jude Degan MITCHELL, William c1670-c1792 Lancaster: Donna Price MOREHEAD, Alexander d 1744 Northumberland: David Brown MORRIS, Nicholas d 1664 Northumberland: David Brown; Mary West Rumora NEWSUM, Robert 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer NEWTON, Thomas 1678 -1727 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer OWEN, Augustine c1680-c1725 Middlesex: Jude Degan PACE, John d 1717 Middlesex: Donna Price PAYNE, John d 1689/90 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter PINCKARD: Mary West Rumora PRESLEY, William d c1656 Northumberland: David Brown PROCTOR, George d c1735 Richmond, King George: David Brown SANFORD, John Sr 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr SHARP, Elias d 1745 King George: David Brown SMITH, John d 1669 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter SMOOT, William c1652-1716 Essex or Richmond: Jude Degan SPENCE, David d 1726 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr STEPTOE: Mary West Rumora STONE: Mary West Rumora STORKE, Nehemiah 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer THACKER, Henry d c1681 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter THOMPSON, Richard d c1649 Northumberland: David Brown TIMBERLAKE, Francis 1687-1727 Middlesex, Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr VIVION, John d 1705 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter WALKER, Col. John c1601-1668/69 Rappahannock: Ann Avery Hunter WELCH, John 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr WILLIAMS, William d 1712 Essex: Ann Avery Hunter WILLIAMSON, Margaret d 1709 Lancaster: David Brown WILLIS, William 1690-1716 Richmond : James V Bartlett Jr WRIGHT, Francis c1640-c1690 Lancaster: Donna Price; Robert Grant Jim Bartlett

This should say we CANNOT guarantee a link to a specific ancestor or cousin, but CAN guarantee some matches to most Ancestral lines. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 23, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net> wrote: > > Janean, > > That's where the Family Finder test comes in. I'ts' different than the Y or > mt DNA tests > > You can take the Family Finder test. It relies on the DNA you got from your > 2 parents, which they got from their parents with they got from you 8 great > grandparents, etc, etc. The Family Finder samples over 95 percent of your > DNA (just not the Y, X, or mt). It's very good back 5 or 6 generations, and > it also works, sometimes, back to 10-11 generations. I've found four 10th > cousins with this test. the genders flip flop from female to male and back > again many times from me back to those Common Ancestor. > > We can guarantee a link back to a particular ancestor or a particular > cousin, but we can guarantee that you will get matches from your Colonial > America ancestors. > > > Jim Bartlett > > On 10/23/12, Janean Ray<jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > > Ok well then a lot of my lines I will have to defer to those who CAN take > the test and who are closer related to me down the line because most of my > lines for example of the Chinn line go from me....... Female, male, female, > female, male, male, female, female, male, male, male, male and on back. > All my lines in the Northern Neck come through my father - through his > mother, and her mother. > So I'll have to wait to find someone that might be related to my proven line > to know where I fit in to things. > Janean Ray > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janean, That's where the Family Finder test comes in. I'ts' different than the Y or mt DNA tests You can take the Family Finder test. It relies on the DNA you got from your 2 parents, which they got from their parents with they got from you 8 great grandparents, etc, etc. The Family Finder samples over 95 percent of your DNA (just not the Y, X, or mt). It's very good back 5 or 6 generations, and it also works, sometimes, back to 10-11 generations. I've found four 10th cousins with this test. the genders flip flop from female to male and back again many times from me back to those Common Ancestor. We can guarantee a link back to a particular ancestor or a particular cousin, but we can guarantee that you will get matches from your Colonial America ancestors. Jim Bartlett On 10/23/12, Janean Ray<jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: Ok well then a lot of my lines I will have to defer to those who CAN take the test and who are closer related to me down the line because most of my lines for example of the Chinn line go from me....... Female, male, female, female, male, male, female, female, male, male, male, male and on back. All my lines in the Northern Neck come through my father - through his mother, and her mother. So I'll have to wait to find someone that might be related to my proven line to know where I fit in to things. Janean Ray

Ok well then a lot of my lines I will have to defer to those who CAN take the test and who are closer related to me down the line because most of my lines for example of the Chinn line go from me....... Female, male, female, female, male, male, female, female, male, male, male, male and on back. All my lines in the Northern Neck come through my father - through his mother, and her mother. So I'll have to wait to find someone that might be related to my proven line to know where I fit in to things. Janean Ray -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:42 PM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean, No - the reason is the mtDNA (female line) can only be passed from a mother to her children (it's in the egg, which men don't have). So the men can get it, they just can't pass it on. Everyone has only one kind of mtDNA in them - their mother's! Jim Bartlett On 10/22/12, Janean Ray<jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: So even with the female lines, those can't be broken either? Janean Ray -----Original Message----- From: va-n[1]orthern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:05 PM To: [3]va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page [4]www.familytreedna.com shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <[5]jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim > > I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y > is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire > emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. > > I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried > down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I > descend from in all the other lines. > > Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the > last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" > (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe > I think came from Germany. > > The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my > brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK > with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't > know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've > heard are quite expensive. > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-n[6]orthern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [[7]mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM > To: [8]va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't > require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on > it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any > degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <[9]jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >> wow! A lot to digest. 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Marilyn Per your last paragraph, I think the definition of autosomal DNA is the 22 chromosome pairs from Chr01 to Chr22. The Y, X and mt DNA are not included in this definition and are not included in the Family Finder DNA test. The autosomal DNA (by Family Finder) is over 95 percent of all your DNA and men and women get exactly half their autosomal DNA from each parent. That is each parent provides one set of the Chr01-22 to the new child, and the child then has 22 chromosome pairs, as you noted. This is why this test is equally good for men or women to take. In either case the person who takes the test gets results from all parts of their ancestry. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 6:44 PM, "Marilyn Brien" <brien@satx.rr.com> wrote: > As a retired biology teacher I just can't resist including a bit of biology. We have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes, including the pair that either have two X chromosomes for girls or an XY pair for boys. In addition to DNA in chromosomes, the powerhouses of the cell, the mitochondria, also have DNA. All body cells have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes. The 23rd pair has XX pair for a female and XY pair for a male. A sperm or egg, has only 23 SINGLE chromosomes, unlike the body cells. Each sperm wil have only either the X chromosome, producing a daughter or a Y-chromosome, producing a son. Each egg has only an X chromosome which is passed on to both sons and daughters. The resulting daughter from fertilization by a sperm with the X-chromosome gets an X chromosome from her mother and an X chromosome from her father. A sperm that has the Y-chromosome passes it along to a son who then has a Y chromosome from his father and a X-chromosome from his mother. > y-DNA -Only boys have y-DNA that came from the Y-chromosome from their father and will pass on that y-dna on the Y-chromosome that produces a son. Since surnames follow male children this is very useful in genealogy. > Mitochondrial DNA is present, not in the chromosomes but in the powerhouses of the cell, the mitochondria. The female passes on this mitochondrial DNA in the egg to all of her children, whether boys or girls. But, this mitochondrial DNA is NOT present in the genetic material in the sperm that is passed on to the children of this boy. It is only the girls who have eggs who will pass on the mitochondrial DNA to the next generation. So, the link would be from mother to daughter to daughter to daughter, etc. > The autosomal DNA includes all of our DNA that we inherit from both parents and will be passed on to all of our children in unique mixtures. Keep in mind that the selection of DNA is random and not cummulative. We have no more DNA than any of our ancestors, just a different mixture. Common fragments and differences when analyzed can indicate common ancestry and lineage. > Marilyn Brien > >

As a retired biology teacher I just can't resist including a bit of biology. We have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes, including the pair that either have two X chromosomes for girls or an XY pair for boys. In addition to DNA in chromosomes, the powerhouses of the cell, the mitochondria, also have DNA. All body cells have 23 PAIRS of chromosomes. The 23rd pair has XX pair for a female and XY pair for a male. A sperm or egg, has only 23 SINGLE chromosomes, unlike the body cells. Each sperm wil have only either the X chromosome, producing a daughter or a Y-chromosome, producing a son. Each egg has only an X chromosome which is passed on to both sons and daughters. The resulting daughter from fertilization by a sperm with the X-chromosome gets an X chromosome from her mother and an X chromosome from her father. A sperm that has the Y-chromosome passes it along to a son who then has a Y chromosome from his father and a X-chromosome from his mother. y-DNA -Only boys have y-DNA that came from the Y-chromosome from their father and will pass on that y-dna on the Y-chromosome that produces a son. Since surnames follow male children this is very useful in genealogy. Mitochondrial DNA is present, not in the chromosomes but in the powerhouses of the cell, the mitochondria. The female passes on this mitochondrial DNA in the egg to all of her children, whether boys or girls. But, this mitochondrial DNA is NOT present in the genetic material in the sperm that is passed on to the children of this boy. It is only the girls who have eggs who will pass on the mitochondrial DNA to the next generation. So, the link would be from mother to daughter to daughter to daughter, etc. The autosomal DNA includes all of our DNA that we inherit from both parents and will be passed on to all of our children in unique mixtures. Keep in mind that the selection of DNA is random and not cummulative. We have no more DNA than any of our ancestors, just a different mixture. Common fragments and differences when analyzed can indicate common ancestry and lineage. Marilyn Brien .

Janean, No - the reason is the mtDNA (female line) can only be passed from a mother to her children (it's in the egg, which men don't have). So the men can get it, they just can't pass it on. Everyone has only one kind of mtDNA in them - their mother's! Jim Bartlett On 10/22/12, Janean Ray<jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: So even with the female lines, those can't be broken either? Janean Ray -----Original Message----- From: va-n[1]orthern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:05 PM To: [3]va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page [4]www.familytreedna.com shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <[5]jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim > > I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y > is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire > emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. > > I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried > down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I > descend from in all the other lines. > > Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the > last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" > (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe > I think came from Germany. > > The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my > brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK > with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't > know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've > heard are quite expensive. > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-n[6]orthern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [[7]mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM > To: [8]va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't > require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on > it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any > degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <[9]jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >> >> Janean > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-N[10]ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-N[11]ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-N[12]ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-N[13]ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:orthern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com 4. http://www.familytreedna.com/ 5. mailto:jray38@neo.rr.com 6. mailto:orthern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com 7. mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com 8. mailto:va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com 9. mailto:jray38@neo.rr.com 10. mailto:ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com 11. mailto:ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com 12. mailto:ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com 13. mailto:ORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com

Janean. Right. Unbroken all-male (father to son) and all-female (mother to daughter). No exceptions, though men do have their mother's mtDNA as well. Obviously, women have no Y chromsome, or else they'd be men. The autosomal DNA (atDNA) is a much, much, much larger pool of ALL your DNA and what Jim is doing is finding matching SEGMENTS to others from an UNKNOWN common ancestor. Craig On Oct 22, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > So even with the female lines, those can't be broken either? > > > > > Janean Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:05 PM > To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female > (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal > treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page www.familytreedna.com > shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, > and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Jim >> >> I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y >> is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire >> emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. >> >> I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried >> down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I >> descend from in all the other lines. >> >> Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the >> last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's > "mother" >> (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe >> I think came from Germany. >> >> The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my >> brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK >> with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't >> know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've >> heard are quite expensive. >> >> >> Janean >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Bartlett >> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM >> To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status >> >> Janean >> >> I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't >> require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on >> it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any >> degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, > but no biology. >> >> Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! >> >> On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >>> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >>> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >>> >>> Janean >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So even with the female lines, those can't be broken either? Janean Ray -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:05 PM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page www.familytreedna.com shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim > > I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y > is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire > emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. > > I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried > down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I > descend from in all the other lines. > > Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the > last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" > (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe > I think came from Germany. > > The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my > brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK > with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't > know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've > heard are quite expensive. > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM > To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't > require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on > it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any > degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >> >> Janean > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janean You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page www.familytreedna.com shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim > > I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y is male > and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire emails of > everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. > > I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried down > from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I descend > from in all the other lines. > > Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the last > name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" > (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe I > think came from Germany. > > The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my > brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK with > male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't know how > all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've heard are quite > expensive. > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM > To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't > require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on it, > and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any degree to apply > the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >> >> Janean > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jim I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I descend from in all the other lines. Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe I think came from Germany. The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've heard are quite expensive. Janean -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been > glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, > wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching > > Janean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message