INDEED, INDEED. The problem is some people don't know the difference between fiction and non-fiction. Jim will have to be very vigilent on whom he allows as editors to the tree. We abstolute do NOT want it to be a repition of every fairy tale out there already that litters ancestry and so many other web sites. Craig >> From: Kathleen Much <much.bookdr@gmail.com> >> Sent: Oct 31, 2012 1:06 PM >> To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] VA-NORTHERN-NECK Digest, Vol 4, Issue 178 >> >> >> ABSOLUTELY do not enter any of the Ancestry fiction into our NN website.

Ginny has been put on "moderated" status for this very reason. Here we are trying to stamp out this ....uh..."junk"......and here she comes out of the blue regurgitating it all over again--in one annoying email after the other. No, you won't be hearing from her in the future unless she has something ORIGINAL to say. Which I doubt will happen. Craig P.S. I have repeatedly cited Peter Walne and I blew up his intro to his article and affixed it to the library wall in Lancaster County. Never has so much ink been spilt to no conclusion" or words to that affect. I get so tired of hearing this same old same old vomited back up. Some snakes just can't be killed. On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Kathleen Much wrote: > Ginny sent a bunch of material on William Ball from Ancestry.com. A lot of > it is old fables that pop up from time to time but that have been > thoroughly discredited by people who sought out original documentary > sources. > > Every once in a while we get led down the garden path laid down by Joseph > Ball II in the 18th century. He DID NOT know Hannah's last name--it > probably wasn't Atherold. He DID NOT know where his ancestor immigrated > from. Several people found William Balls in the general time period of the > immigrant and hitched them onto his family tree willy-nilly. > > Before anyone accepts the Ancestry material uncritically, please read Peter > Walne, "The English Ancestry of Colonel William Ball of Millenbeck" (VA Mag > of History and Biography 67:399-405). It is the best account of what is > actually known and not known about this family. > > ABSOLUTELY do not enter any of the Ancestry fiction into our NN website. > > Kathleen Much > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where is this mentioned in the Walne article?  From: Craig Kilby <persisto@live.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold If you will read the rest of the Walne article, he opens a wide door as to William Ball being the son of Richard Ball of Lincolnshire.

Where can we obtain this reference? -----Original Message----- >From: Kathleen Much <much.bookdr@gmail.com> >Sent: Oct 31, 2012 1:06 PM >To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] VA-NORTHERN-NECK Digest, Vol 4, Issue 178 > >Ginny sent a bunch of material on William Ball from Ancestry.com. A lot of >it is old fables that pop up from time to time but that have been >thoroughly discredited by people who sought out original documentary >sources. > >Every once in a while we get led down the garden path laid down by Joseph >Ball II in the 18th century. He DID NOT know Hannah's last name--it >probably wasn't Atherold. He DID NOT know where his ancestor immigrated >from. Several people found William Balls in the general time period of the >immigrant and hitched them onto his family tree willy-nilly. > >Before anyone accepts the Ancestry material uncritically, please read Peter >Walne, "The English Ancestry of Colonel William Ball of Millenbeck" (VA Mag >of History and Biography 67:399-405). It is the best account of what is >actually known and not known about this family. > >ABSOLUTELY do not enter any of the Ancestry fiction into our NN website. > >Kathleen Much > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Walne article has been mentioned time and time again, but no one will actually post what the Walne article actually concludes.  The conclusions may be briefly summarized as follows:   1) William Ball "of Millenbeck" who died Nov. 1680 cannot be of the Ball family of Berkshire because there was another contemporaneous William Ball living in Berkshire.  It gets a bit more complicated, but this is essentially the gist of the article.   2) According to birth records of Burgh, Suffolk, England, Thomas Atherold who married Mary Harvey did not have a daughter named Hannah.  They had three children born between 1628 and 1635 and none of them were named Hannah.   Here are my thoughts:    On the first conclusion, I have NEVER subscribed to the Berkshire theory anyway.  I think the Ball family is from a different region of England, but I dare not speculate on this point since, as we all know, genealogists never speculate on anything.   Regarding the Atherold conclusion, I would imagine there were other Atherold families in the Burgh, Suffolk neighborhood.  To conclude Hannah is not an Atherold based on the fact that this one couple (Thomas Atherold & Mary Harvey) did not have a daughter Hannah is, for lack of a better word, fantastic to me.  It seems to me that more research is needed before we just toss the Atherold connection out the window.   

Very few Colonists had a middle name. It started in US around 1800, give or take. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > Charlene. Thank you. I don't think he had any middle name, Henry or otherwise. You should add your transcript of Samuel's will to the NN tree, as a word document. I suggest you add a hyperlink to your website or your email address so others can get in touch with you. Good work! > > Craig > > P.S. if you even find out why somebody added a middle name for Samuel as "Henry", it would be an interesting tale. I am forever trying to tell some of my Kilby cousins in North Carolina that William -2 Kilby was not named William "Humphrey" Kilby. He had not no middle name, was never, not once, ever called that, his own bible never says that, and yet they will not give it up. Maddening. This is why I hate seeing things like this perpetuated, at least here on this list, where we strive to do better. > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:46 AM, TEbel2888@aol.com wrote: > >> Craig, I cannot find documentation of Samuel BALL having a middle name of >> Henry. I know I didn't add it because it sounded good, but I took it out >> until I can verify it. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ginny sent a bunch of material on William Ball from Ancestry.com. A lot of it is old fables that pop up from time to time but that have been thoroughly discredited by people who sought out original documentary sources. Every once in a while we get led down the garden path laid down by Joseph Ball II in the 18th century. He DID NOT know Hannah's last name--it probably wasn't Atherold. He DID NOT know where his ancestor immigrated from. Several people found William Balls in the general time period of the immigrant and hitched them onto his family tree willy-nilly. Before anyone accepts the Ancestry material uncritically, please read Peter Walne, "The English Ancestry of Colonel William Ball of Millenbeck" (VA Mag of History and Biography 67:399-405). It is the best account of what is actually known and not known about this family. ABSOLUTELY do not enter any of the Ancestry fiction into our NN website. Kathleen Much

Charlene. Thank you. I don't think he had any middle name, Henry or otherwise. You should add your transcript of Samuel's will to the NN tree, as a word document. I suggest you add a hyperlink to your website or your email address so others can get in touch with you. Good work! Craig P.S. if you even find out why somebody added a middle name for Samuel as "Henry", it would be an interesting tale. I am forever trying to tell some of my Kilby cousins in North Carolina that William -2 Kilby was not named William "Humphrey" Kilby. He had not no middle name, was never, not once, ever called that, his own bible never says that, and yet they will not give it up. Maddening. This is why I hate seeing things like this perpetuated, at least here on this list, where we strive to do better. On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:46 AM, TEbel2888@aol.com wrote: > Craig, I cannot find documentation of Samuel BALL having a middle name of > Henry. I know I didn't add it because it sounded good, but I took it out > until I can verify it.

Craig, I cannot find documentation of Samuel BALL having a middle name of Henry. I know I didn't add it because it sounded good, but I took it out until I can verify it. I have included the will of Samuel BALL that indicates that his son, William, did not have any children in 1751, but then William wasn't born until c 1734. Although Samuel BALL died in Culpeper, he was of the Lancaster BALL family and 1st cousin of Mary BALL-WASHINGTON. ********************************************************************** Will: Samuel Ball, Culpeper Co, VA (1751) IN THE NAME OF GOD AMEN, I Samuel Ball being weak in body but of perfect sence & of memory, thanks be to God for it, calling to mind the mortality of my body & know it is appointed for all men to die, I do make & ordain this my last will & testament in manner & form as following: Item: I give to my loving wife Anne Catherine Ball the use of one negro man Adam during the time she lives as a widow & after wards to my son William Ball & his heirs forever. Item: I give to my son William Ball all my land & negros by name: Daniel, Kitt, Cloanday, Rose, Rachel, Rose?, to him & his heirs lawfully begotten of his body forever, and for want of such heirs, then as followeth: Item: I give to my daughter Margaret Ball five negros by name: Jasn?, Murriah, Mille, Kittener, Will, & a feather bed & furniture & a mear fille & her colt and my horse Batchatt, & if in case my son William should die without heir lawfull begotten of his body, then I give four hundred acres of land which as already bounded to my said daughter Margaret Ball & her choyce of two negros belonging to her brother, part to her and her heirs forever and the rest to be equally divided amongst the three sisters. Item: I give to my daughter Judith Hackley, two negros by name Cate, Jack, to her & her heirs forever & two hundred & sixty acres of land to her & her heirs forever, in case her brother should die as aforesaid and the other part of the land if it should happen, with her brother & sister Margaret as aforesaid. Item: I give to my daughter Mary Green twenty shillings. The reason I (do not?) give her more is because she has had her part already. Item: I give to my son William Ball all my estate that is not mentioned already to him & his heirs forever. Item: I give to James Pollard five acres of land bounded thus beginning at a spanish oak, the south side brooks run along close by the run mentioned to a red oak thence along the old line northward up the branch to a wite (white?) oak thence southward to the beginning more or so?, to him and his heirs forever. Item: I do appoint my son William Ball & my two sons in law John Hackley, Robert Green to be hole & sole Executors of this my Last Will and Testament. IN WITNESS whereof I have set my hand and seal this sixteen day of August in the year seventeen hundred and fifty one. Samuel Ball (L.S.) (witnesses) his Paul PH Howell mark William X Rains mark It is my desire that my estate not be appraised. At a Court held for the County of Culpeper Friday, the 15th? day of November 1751 This Last Will & Testament of Samuel Ball, dec'd, was this day proved by the oath of William Raines, a witness thereto. And At a Court held for the County of Culpeper Thursday, the 10th day of April 1752 The said Will was further proved by the oath of Paul Howell, another witness thereto and ordered to be recorded, being sworn to by John Hackley, one of the Executors therein named and on his motion, Certificate is granted him for obtaining a Probat thereof in due form, he giving security according to law and liberty was reserved to the other Executor therein named to joyn in the Probat when they shall think fit. Teste: Roger Dixon, Cl.Cur. Source: Library of Virginia, Will Book A, 1749-1770 Culpeper Co, VA Reel 31, pages 60-61 Note: Spelling errors were not corrected. Paragraphing and some punctuation were added by transcriber for ease in reading. There are no paragraphs in the original. Charlene REEDS-EBELING

Charlene How on earth are you coming up with a middle name of "Henry" for Samuel -3 Ball? Can you cite one record that says this? Craig On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:34 PM, TEbel2888@aol.com wrote: > Descendants of Samuel Henry Ball, Capt. > > 1 Samuel Henry Ball, Capt. 1686 - 1751 b: 09/26/1686 in Lancaster Co., > Virginia d: 11/22/1751 in St. Mark's Parish, Culpeper Co., Virginia

Fellow list members, Chocy's email address has been apprently been hijackd. Do NOT click on her links. She is on moderate until she gets this sorted out.. Craig On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Chocybrown@aol.com wrote LINKE WAS TO MALWARWE SPAM SITE

I am a descendent of Capt. Samuel BALL 1686-1751 and Ann TAYLOE. They married 11/25/1717 Lancaster Co., VA and died in St. Mark's Parish. Since the name "William BALL" was the John JONES of his day, I have 35 William BALLs in my data. One very distinguishing factor with William, son of Samuel is that he was born c 1734 in Culpeper Co., while many of the others in the same time period were born in Lancaster. He married Frances SLAUGHTER, dau of Col. Francis SLAUGHTER 1701 Essex Co.-1765 Culpeper and Anne LIGHTFOOT 1708-1748 (Goodrich Lightfoot and Ann CHEW) Sarah HACKLEY, below, is my 3rd grt. grandmother. Here they are: Descendants of Samuel Henry Ball, Capt. 1 Samuel Henry Ball, Capt. 1686 - 1751 b: 09/26/1686 in Lancaster Co., Virginia d: 11/22/1751 in St. Mark's Parish, Culpeper Co., Virginia .. +Ann Catharina Tayloe 1695 - 1751 b: Abt. 1695 d: Aft. 1751 ..... 2 Judith Ball 1718 - 1772 b: 1718 in Culpeper Co., Virginia d: 1772 ......... +John Hackley 1720 - 1768 b: Bef. 1720 in King George Co., Virginia d: 10/1768 in King George Co., Virginia ............ 3 Ann Hackley 1740 - b: 1740 ................ +Peter Taliaferro 1740 - b: 02/12/1740 ............ 3 Elizabeth Hackley 1741 - b: 1741 d: in Franklin Co., Kentucky ................ +Richard Hackley 1746 - b: Abt. 1746 in Virginia d: in Franklin Co., Kentucky ............ 3 Sarah Hackley 1743 - 1813 b: 1743 in prob. Culpepper Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1813 ................ +Samuel Reeds, Jr. 1740 - 1814 b: Abt. 1740 in Virginia--prob. King Geo.>KY c 1786 d: 02/1814 in Mt. Sterling, Montgomery County, Ky ............ 3 Lucy Ball Hackley 1746 - 1826 b: Bet. 1746 - 1747 in Virginia d: 01/08/1826 in Montgomery Co., Ky ................ +James Madison Jameson, Lt., Am Rev 1741 - 1827 b: Abt. 1741 in Orange Co., Virginia d: 08/14/1827 in Kentucky ............ 3 John Hackley,III, Lt., AmRev 1748 - 1799 b: 1748 d: 03/16/1799 in Culpeper Co., Va. ............ 3 Samuel Hackley 1749 - 1776 b: 1749 d: Bet. 1776 - 1777 in Hampton Sydney College ............ 3 James Hackley 1751 - 1841 b: 08/01/1751 in Culpepper Co., Virginia d: 09/17/1841 in Woodford Co., Kentucky ................ +Elizabeth Daniel 1755 - 1850 b: 11/11/1755 in Culpeper Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1850 ............ 3 Judith Ball Hackley 1747 - 1825 b: 1747 in St. Anne's Parish, Essex Co., Virginia d: 01/08/1825 in Montgomery Co., Ky--buried Mt. Sterling, ky ................ +Thomas Anderson Jameson II 1743 - 1827 b: 05/03/1743 in Orange Co., Virginia>Ky 1782 d: 08/14/1827 in Montgomery Co., KY--buried Mt. Sterling, ky ..... 2 Margaret Ball 1724 - b: 1724 in St. Mary's Parish, Culpeper Co., Virginia ......... +John Barrow 1729 - 1810 b: 1729 d: 1810 in Culpeper Co., Virginia ..... 2 Mary Ball 1725 - 1800 b: Bet. 1725 - 1735 in Va. d: 1800 in Virginia ......... +Robert Green 1725 - 1797 b: 1725 in Culpeper Co., Va. d: 1797 ............ 3 William Green, Col. 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 d: in Of Fauquier Co., Va. ................ +Lucy Blackwell 1750 - b: 1750 ..... 2 William Ball 1734 - 1802 b: Abt. 1734 in Culpeper Co., Va. d: Bef. 07/19/1802 ......... +Frances Slaughter 1737 - b: 1737 in Culpeper Co., Va. **************************************** Craig and I did the William BALL dance quite a while ago. Here is his reply: Here are the notes for William Ball that will go in my manuscript which will accompany Margaret Hill's book, *Ball Outline*: Hill, p. 44; Cukro p. 38 (#73); Hayden, p. 55 Guardianship account: Culpeper Will Book A, p. 95-97. William Ball orphan of Capt. Samuel Ball, John Hackley, guardian. Covers period 1751-1753. Recorded 22 February 1754. IF this is the "about" date that William turned 21 years old, his year of birth would be "about" 1733. William Ball married Frances Slaughter, daughter of Francis Slaughter, whose will dated 22 September 1762 names his daughter Frances Ball (Culpeper County, VA, Will Book A, p. 412-419). There are several subsequent Slaughter/Ball deeds proving the relationship to Samuel. (See Samuel Ball Family File, letter from John Frederick Dorman.) Vestryman, St. Mark's Parish, Culpeper County in 1763. Church warden, 1776, vestryman in 1785. Will dated 3 March 1802, proved 19 July 1802, Culpeper County Will Book "D", p. 85-96 (copy in the Samuel Ball Family File). Will names NO CHILDREN, sister Margaret BARROW, William Gray, Jr., son of Col. William Gray, and calls Col. William Gray his nephew. See Samuel Ball Family FIle: Letter from John Frederick Dorman to Mr. Pondrom, dated 26 April 1957. Mr. Dorman discusses the relationship of William Ball to Samuel, and concludes he is his son, and cites several deeds from the heirs of Francis Slaughter and William Ball. He also states he has not solved the problem of how Col. William Gray could be the nephew of William Ball. NOTE: There is a settlement of guardianship of one William Ball, Henry Duval guardian, in Culpeper County dated 11 July 1799. This William Ball is unplaced. He is not a son of William the son of Samuel, who did not die until 1802. It was a very enjoyable discussion and I learned a lot from ya'll. THANK YOU! Cheers, Craig Kilby Lancaster, VA Charlene REEDS-EBELING

A serious misprint, This is the will of Edward Dale not Edward Carter. Robert Lumsden Message: 17 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:40:05 -0700 From: "Virginia L. \"Ginny\" Keefer" <ginnykeefer@cox.net<mailto:ginnykeefer@cox.net>> Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Will of Thomas Carter dated Aug 16, 1700 To: <va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com<mailto:va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <F5F090A679164237861ABA916DE52BD6@VLKeeferHP<mailto:F5F090A679164237861ABA916DE52BD6@VLKeeferHP>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ********************************************************************** Misc Records. Same series of book as above by Spararcio?s 1652-1657 Lancaster County Court, 6th of February, 1655/6 Whereas it did appeare to this Court, that the Estate o Capt. Borcas, deceased, stands in indebted to Capt. Edward Streater in 1200 lbs of tobacco & caske, it is ordered that the said debt bee paid by MAIER, JOHN CARTER, who marryed ye RELICT of Capt. Brocas to Jo; Sharpe, the ATTOURNEY OF YE SD STREATOR. ********************************************************************* Same series of books, 1690-1709. page 45 Lancaster Co VA Will book 8, p 56 In the Name of God, Amen. etc, etc. I, EDWARD CARTER, the twentie fourth day of August, 1694, being of sound perfect memory, etc. in the County of Lancaster; in the RAPPA RIVER of Virginia. Imprs; If is hall soe please God that my now wife shall happen to over live mee, I give unto her for her maintenance dureing her life the whole p:ffitt of my Estate whatsoever some respect being lwaies had to her as in an honest woman & gentle woman and many yeares my Wife, and after her decease, I give the plantacon whereon I now live to my two grandchildren; PETE and JOSEPH CARTER, to have and to holde to them, their heires and assignees forever; to be equally divided betweene them and in case of the mortality of either of them before they come of the age of twenty-one years, then to my grandson, JNO CARTER. Item; I give onto my two Grandsons, PETER and JOSEPH CARTER, and to my two Granddaughters, ELIZABETH CARTER and KATHERINE CARTER; all my personall Estate whatsoever to bee equally divided betweene them and in case wither of the girls happen to depart this life before their day of marriage or eighteen years of age, I give her part to the Survivor. Item; I give to my Grandson; PETER CARTER, my Negro boy, named William Rogers, twelve pence in full of all claimes whatsoever. Item; It is my desire for the bettter improveing of my Estate for the aforesaid that my Estate be continued upon the said plantacon and after my Wife be supplied with all the necessaries and the plantacon likewise yearly. I give unto my Daughter, KATHERINE, during her life the p;ffitt of all the Estate whatsoever. Item; I doe nominate and appointe my Grandson, EDWARD CARTER, and my Daughter, KATHERINE CARTER, and my Granddaughter, ELIZABETH CARTER, when she arrives to the age of Sixteene yeares of age to be my executors. In Witness whereof I have here unto put my hand and Seale and published in the presence of; JOHN CHELTON EDWARD DALE THO. CARTER JUNR. HENRY CARTER Probata in Cur Com Lancaster; undecimo die Martii 1695 p John Chelton, Thoms Carter Jr and Henry Carter. Teste; John Stretchley. Cl Cur. ************************************

Mary This family ties into NN and should be entered into the NN Tree. There is no way I've found to upload additions to an Ancestry Tree. However, when you enter a name into NN, you'll get hints - look for your own Tree and the copy that info. You can also copy someone in your Tree to another Tree (like the NN Tree) As always, please check (via the Search box) to make sure someone is not already in the NN Tree. Enter as many records as you can with each person to document the relationships. Good luck. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:11 AM, "Mary L. West" <westgenealogy@yahoo.com> wrote: > About this...Martha Dandridge Custis Washington was my 2 cousin 7X removed. Her father, John Dandridge, is buried here in Fredericksburg. I have a lot of information on this family and the Custis-Lee families with whom they intermarried. Is there any value to my entering some of this data in the NN Tree? If there is interest I would want to enter data exactly according to the methods & procedures you have established. Please let me know if there is interest. We can discuss details later. I am willing to make a trip to the MBW Library and meet with you so you may look over what I have and give me guidance. > > Also, my data resides in a Family Tree Maker file. Is it possible to upload the data rather that keying it all in again? > > Mary > Mary West Rumora (aka Mary L West) > Vice Regent Washington-Lewis NSDAR > Jamestowne Society - Life Member > Colonial Dames XVII Century > 14 Goose Creek Circle > > Fredericksburg, VA 22406 > (540) 384-3166/home > (813) 523-9470/cell > Website: www.JohnMarshallWest.com > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net> >> To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:12 PM >> Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Northern Neck of Virginia Families Tree >> >> >> In response to several inquiries as to how to find our Tree, please try this >> link: >> >> [1]http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30617119/person/12287870034 >> >> As the chief person-to-blame, I've taken the liberty of changing the Home >> Person to George Washington. >> >> Use the Search box in the upper right to look for any other person already >> in the Tree. In fact you should always do this before adding anyone to the >> Tree, to be sure they are not already in the Tree. Adding a person to the >> Tree a second time creates a terrible mess, that is very time consuming to >> correct - this leads to the easier option of just deleting one of the two >> lines... (I have not taken that drastic step, and don't plan to, so please >> help by checking before you add someone new - thanks) >> >> Remember to document the sources for all your statements of fact. >> >> Jim Bartlett >> >> References >> >> 1. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30617119/person/12287870034 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ginny, Barkam Manor was not the birth place of William Ball. This has been debunked since 1959. Also, please desist from posting all these advertisements for ancestry.com. It is not an appropriate use of this list. Craig Kilby List Administrator On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:21 AM, ginnykeefer@cox.net wrote: > Barkham Manor House, Barkham, England. Birth place of William Ball. > > -

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About this...Martha Dandridge Custis Washington was my 2 cousin 7X removed. Her father, John Dandridge, is buried here in Fredericksburg. I have a lot of information on this family and the Custis-Lee families with whom they intermarried. Is there any value to my entering some of this data in the NN Tree? If there is interest I would want to enter data exactly according to the methods & procedures you have established. Please let me know if there is interest. We can discuss details later. I am willing to make a trip to the MBW Library and meet with you so you may look over what I have and give me guidance. Also, my data resides in a Family Tree Maker file. Is it possible to upload the data rather that keying it all in again? Mary Mary West Rumora (aka Mary L West) Vice Regent Washington-Lewis NSDAR Jamestowne Society - Life Member Colonial Dames XVII Century 14 Goose Creek Circle Fredericksburg, VA 22406 (540) 384-3166/home (813) 523-9470/cell Website: www.JohnMarshallWest.com   >________________________________ > From: Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net> >To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:12 PM >Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Northern Neck of Virginia Families Tree > > >  In response to several inquiries as to how to find our Tree, please try this >  link: > >  [1]http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30617119/person/12287870034 > >  As the chief person-to-blame, I've taken the liberty of changing the Home >  Person to George Washington. > >  Use the Search box in the upper right to look for any other person already >  in the Tree. In fact you should always do this before adding anyone to the >  Tree, to be sure they are not already in the Tree. Adding a person to the >  Tree a second time creates a terrible mess, that is very time consuming to >  correct - this leads to the easier option of just deleting one of the two >  lines... (I have not taken that drastic step, and don't plan to, so please >  help by checking before you add someone new - thanks) > >  Remember to document the sources for all your statements of fact. > >  Jim Bartlett > >References > >  1. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30617119/person/12287870034 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I was referring only to the FTDNA charter we have for the DNA group (and our Patriarch Tool for that). I don't want to take on too much until I see how it's going to work out. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > I will count this as a vote for "over reaching." I have been torn on this from the beginning (Sept 2009). However we must keep in mind: > > 1. Expanding the rootsweb list is probably not necessary, though I could do some out-reach to those lists on the Maryland side > 2. The NN tree is not limited should editors so wish and > 3. The NN tree DOES need to keep a more strict focus > > No rush on anything. I'm interested in what the rest of our group has to say about it. > > Craig > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > >> Craig >> >> Let's be sure we can handle what's on our plate now. If it works, then we can think about expanding. >> >> Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! >> >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Barbara, >>> >>> This is my understanding of it too. While the tree is a working document, it should not be used to repeat the same old, same old. The NN dna project, as I understand it, it too test those theories, and maybe (hopefully) come with a lot more. >>> >>> I am very proud of this group and our various projects. We are definitely "cutting edge" on many fronts in genealogy. In fact, I'm tempted to include the Eastern Shore and Delmarva peninsula into this group. My fear is that that we be over-reaching. My other fear is that we may be under-reaching. I'd love to hear feedback on this idea. >>> >>> Craig > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hannah Atherold Ball's grave site at White Chapel Ch. Cem. in Lancaster Co. VA. - Virginia L.Virginia L. is sharing this photo from Ancestry with you.View the photo: http://trees.ancestry.com/ShareHandler.ashx?retUrl=%2Ftree%2F14993857%2Fperson%2F19974858588%2Fphoto%2F96a335ea-fdee-46bf-9bc8-4fdecd19c3a3%3Fsph%3Dced09d8a8b09b5a93b648019641b9ce8000039bdc1712adf%26spn%3DVirginia%252bL.%252bKeefer&token=cf0b8990-392d-43f6-b912-187f336fb707 Ancestry is the world's largest online resource for family history. With billions of historical records, powerful search tools, family trees and an active community, Ancestry helps everyone discover, preserve and share their family history. We've sent you this message on behalf of ginnykeefer@cox.net. We respect your privacy and won't be sending you any Ancestry.com communications as a result of this email. Questions? Find answers in our online help center (http://ancestry.custhelp.com) or simply send us a message (http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php). You can also contact us at Ancestry Operations Inc., 360 West 4800 North, Provo, UT 84604, Attn: Customer Service. Copyright 2012 Ancestry

Barkham Manor House, Barkham, England. Birth place of William Ball. - Virginia L.Virginia L. is sharing this photo from Ancestry with you.View the photo: http://trees.ancestry.com/ShareHandler.ashx?retUrl=%2Ftree%2F9214833%2Fperson%2F-778786945%2Fphoto%2F88ff0016-21f8-41b5-abf6-948e08ebb019%3Fsph%3D3cfdc2c250a3bf633790505b98ef21f9000039bdc16e37d0%26spn%3DVirginia%252bL.%252bKeefer&token=e1d9e46b-c63e-4fde-8fa9-ad11475a809c Ancestry is the world's largest online resource for family history. With billions of historical records, powerful search tools, family trees and an active community, Ancestry helps everyone discover, preserve and share their family history. We've sent you this message on behalf of ginnykeefer@cox.net. We respect your privacy and won't be sending you any Ancestry.com communications as a result of this email. Questions? Find answers in our online help center (http://ancestry.custhelp.com) or simply send us a message (http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php). You can also contact us at Ancestry Operations Inc., 360 West 4800 North, Provo, UT 84604, Attn: Customer Service. Copyright 2012 Ancestry