Craig, Thank you for the explanation. Even though italics and bold didn't show, I did name the three people in the record that I would like to ID. That ought to do it for my request at present. Thank you, Amanda -------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Kilby" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:29 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Some Reminders on Style > Rootsweb lists are TEXT ONLY. No underlining, no italics, no bold. NO > ATTACHMENTS ARE ALLOWED (They will bounced back to you.) > > In other words: no enhancements to test will come through. > > In other words: Any attachments are automatically rejected by > rootsweb.com. > > You MAY include an url/link to a web site. > > ------------------------------- > > Hence why we ask that you to post one topic at a time. Citations are > great, but please put at end of message. Please keep topics to one topic > at a a time. Preferably in one paragraph and no more than three. > > Read again: one topic at a time. > > > IN OTHER WORDS: STAY FOCUSED > > WHY? Nobody is going to read or wade through dozens of issues all at one > time. Their eyes will glaze over and will you have wasted your time in a > large audience. Think about the end user--in this case, the membership of > this list. > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rootsweb lists are TEXT ONLY. No underlining, no italics, no bold. NO ATTACHMENTS ARE ALLOWED (They will bounced back to you.) In other words: no enhancements to test will come through. In other words: Any attachments are automatically rejected by rootsweb.com. You MAY include an url/link to a web site. ------------------------------- Hence why we ask that you to post one topic at a time. Citations are great, but please put at end of message. Please keep topics to one topic at a a time. Preferably in one paragraph and no more than three. Read again: one topic at a time. IN OTHER WORDS: STAY FOCUSED WHY? Nobody is going to read or wade through dozens of issues all at one time. Their eyes will glaze over and will you have wasted your time in a large audience. Think about the end user--in this case, the membership of this list. Craig

List, I am sorry that UNDERLINING did not show up in my post. [If there is a trick to that, please enlighten.] Here are the people I would like to ID from below record. Thank you, Amanda Mr. Philip Bristoe Mr. William Herbert Lieut. Collo. James Smallwood STAFFORD COUNTY VA DEED & WILL BOOK 1699 - 1709; THE ANTIENT PRESS At a Court held February 9th 1703/4 PP. 119-221 ANNE by the Grace of God of England Scotland France and Ireland Queen Defender of the Faith etc. To all to whom these present Letters shall come greeting,. Know ye that among the Pleas recorded before our Justices for Charles County in our Court held for Port Tobacco in the same county the Eleventh day of November in the 13th year of the Reign of our Late Predecessor KING WILLIAM the THIRD of Gracious Memory Anno Domini 1703 Before Majr . WILLIAM DENT Captain WILLIAM BARTON, Mr. JOSEPH MANNING, Mr. THOMAS TANZY, Mr. BENJAMIN HALL, Mr. ROBERT YEATS, Mr. RICHARD HARRISON, MR. PHILIP BRISTOE, MR WILLIAM HERBERT, Captain HENRY HARDY, Lieut. Collo. JAMES SMALLWOOD, Justices unto appointed & authorized.

Dear List, I think below "Mr.Philip Bristoe" could be a Philip Briscoe who married Susannah Swann in CC MD. I also believe below Maj. William Dent was husband of Elizabeth Fowke? He died with rank of Col. and had estate record in 1707 that had payments to George Elgin. George Elgin's wife died 1756 and I believe my 5xgf Alexander Maconchie was witness on her will. Below "Lieut. Collo. James Smallwood" could be the Col. James Smallwood who had last wife Mary who remarried an Alexander Herbert. Col. James Smallwood a grandson John Smallwood who died 1734 whose estate record had Robert Maconchie and "Milburne Semmes" on his estate. I am certain they were same men on estate of John Chandler. I am trying to prove that Robert Maconchie was likely the father of my 5xgf Alexander McConchie. Alexander McConchie had grandson who married the 2x great granddaughter of George Mott of Northern Neck. Would like to ID the people underlined. Thank you, Amanda STAFFORD COUNTY VA DEED & WILL BOOK 1699 - 1709; THE ANTIENT PRESS At a Court held February 9th 1703/4 PP. 119-221 ANNE by the Grace of God of England Scotland France and Ireland Queen Defender of the Faith etc. To all to whom these present Letters shall come greeting,. Know ye that among the Pleas recorded before our Justices for Charles County in our Court held for Port Tobacco in the same county the Eleventh day of November in the 13th year of the Reign of our Late Predecessor KING WILLIAM the THIRD of Gracious Memory Anno Domini 1703 Before Majr . WILLIAM DENT Captain WILLIAM BARTON, Mr. JOSEPH MANNING, Mr. THOMAS TANZY, Mr. BENJAMIN HALL, Mr. ROBERT YEATS, Mr. RICHARD HARRISON, MR. PHILIP BRISTOE, MR WILLIAM HERBERT, Captain HENRY HARDY, Lieut. Collo. JAMES SMALLWOOD, Justices unto appointed & authorized. I would like to see if above Mr. Philip Bristoe and Mr. William Herbert could be the two men below? I think below Gerard Fowke may have been married to Sarah Burdette? They had daughter Frances Fowke m. Dr. Gustavus Brown. Philip Briscoe married a Suannah Swann about 1678 in St. Mary's Co. MD. William Timothy 20.264 A CH £23.14.0 #3924 May 14 1701 The amount of the inventory is equivalent to #5688, Payments to: Grace Timothy widow of deceased), John Rose, William Herbert and his wife Sarah (executrix of Ralph Smith), William Nicholls, Phillip Briscoe, Gerrard Fowke. Administratrix: Samuell Compton. Below was the Philip Briscoe who might be the "Mr. Philip Bristoe" with "Wiliam Herbert" on the Stafford Co. record. This Philip Briscoe had a son Philip Briscoe who I think could have been on estate of John Chandler m. Ann Penn. Briscoe, Philip, Sr., Charles County, 25th April, 1724; 29th Jan., 1724. To wife Susannah, dwelling plantation "Morris's Venture" during life; at her decease to son John, ex., and hrs.; and 1/3 personal estate. To son Philip and hrs.., 80 A. had of Father Swann. To son Edward and hrs.,"Hitchin," bou. of Thomas Davis; 111 A. of "Loves Enjoyment." To grandson leonard (son of son George, dec'd), pt. of "Chaptico Mannor" during term of lease. To daus, Sarah Leonard, Judith Ashcom, Susannah Compton, and Anne Wood, personalty. To son John, largest silver tankard. To son James and hrs., 200 A. of "Loves Enjoyment." To sons John, Philip, Edward and James and daus. Susannah and Ann, residue of personalty equally. Test: John Briscoe, Jr., Thomas Mercer, Robert Lang. 18.9339. I have 5xgf Alexander McConchie who had wife Ann and ONLY SON named "Robert". He seems to have been from CC MD but ends up in Faquier Co. VA. I have assumed that my Alexander McConchie named his ONLY SON after his own father. Below John Chandler died 1735. His will was witnessed by Dr. Gustavus Brown and wife Frances nee Fowke. Frances was d/o Gerard Fowke and Sarah Burdette. Below was an estate record of John Chandler that had a Philip Briscoe who may be the son of Philip Briscoe and Susannah Swann. Below estate record also had Robert Maconchie who I am trying to prove could be the FATHER of my 5xgf Alexander McConchie. John Chandler 14.365 A CH £589.11.11 £672,19.5 Jul 1 1737 Sureties: William Penn, Mark Penn. Received from: Dr. Brown, John Theobalds, Daniel Sates, Thomas Shaw, Mr. George Thorald, Samuel Hanson, Jr., Thomas Marshall, Philip Briscoe, Jos. Millburn Semmes, Walter Pye, Matthew Barnes, sr., Capt. John Lancaser, John Hamil, Dennis Nallyf Benjamin Burgess? Baptist Boarman, William Hansonp Robert Hanson, John Dent, John Hanson, Sr., Col. George Dent, Walter Hanson, Thomas Gilpin, Joseph Pain, Thomas Morrisf Benjamin Craycroft, William Monroe, Thomas Reed, Susanna Jenkins, William Coody, John Bruce, Mary Speake. Payments to: Philip Welsh, Giles Vermillian, Dr. Gustavus Brown, Jennet Mclane, Peter Mitchellf Daniel Dulany, Esq., Samuel Hanson, George Dent, Esq Robert Machonchie, William Southerland, James Morphey, John Scroggen, John McNail, Robert Christie, Martha Yoaxley. Executors: Anne Chandler (now dead) wife of Henry Acton, John Chandler. I would be most grateful if anyone can ID the "Mr. Philip Bristoe" and "Lieut. Collo. James Smallwood" on the Stafford Co. record of 1703. Thank you, Amanda

_http://www.archive.org/stream/newyorkgenealog052newy/newyorkgenealog052newy _djvu.txt_ (http://www.archive.org/stream/newyorkgenealog052newy/newyorkgenealog052newy_djvu.txt) Joseph Chew and Samuel Chew (sons of Thomas and Martha (Tayler) Chew, of Virginia, came to New London before 1750. Joseph Chew was Surveyor of the Port in New London in 1761 ; he espoused the Loyalist side prior to and at the time of the Revolu- tion, while Samuel Chew adhered to the Colonists. That Joseph Chew was a turbulent character is shown from the following extracts from Hempstead's Diary, viz. : p. 599 : "Tuesday, November 28, 1752, Joseph Chew assaulted Captain Richard Durfey on the high- way and wounded him with a bone on the head, and bruised his head and tore his shirt, etc.;" p. 658: "Saturday, October 25, 1755, last night, about nine o'clock Joseph Chew and John Miller and Lechmere and others made a very great rout and tumult, firing guns and swearing and cursing and threatening to kill Stephen Pot- ter and others, and was like to have killed Potter." On account of his loyalty to the Royal Cause he was requested to leave New Lon- don. This was a period of great disturbance between the Crown and the Colonists on account of taxation, and as Joseph Chew was con- nected with the New London Customs House, it was more than likely that his outbreaks were due to his political connections. >From Sabine's Loyalists, Vol. II, p. 495, we extract the fol- lowing. : "Joseph Chew of New London, Conn., was a Commissary in the Royal Service, and in 1777 was taken prisoner by a party of Whigs at Sag Harbor," — "Joseph Chew, a magistrate of Tryon (now Montgomery) County, N. Y., signed the declaration of Loyalty in 1775. In 1792 he was in Canada, an official under Sir John John- son and in correspondence with Brant in relation to pending difficul- £9 2I -3 Christophers Family. 6 1 ties with the United States." According to the late Miss Alice Chew, of New London (a great-grand-daughter of Samuel Chew, brother of Joseph Chew), Joseph Chew went to Canada to live; which leads one to conclude that the above extracts from Sabine refer to Joseph Chew, of New London. Authorities : History First Church, New London, p. 497. Bailey's Early Connecticut Marriages, Vol. II, p. 23. Hempstead's Diary, pp. 599, 658. Caulkin's History of New London, pp. 463, 477, 583-4, 506, 539-40, 661. Miss Lucretia W. Smith, Genealogist of the New London County Hist. Soc. Pedigree of Thomas and Lawrence Chew, by Rev. Lawrence Barkley, Thomas Whittaker, Publisher. Original Records in Town Clerk's Office, New London. Original Records in Library of the New London County Historical Association. Author: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society; Greene, Richard Henry, 1839-1926, ed; Stiles, Henry Reed, 1832-1909, ed; Dwight, Melatiah Everett, ed; Morrison, George Austin, 1864-1916, ed; Mott, Hopper Striker, 1854-1924, ed; Totten, John Reynolds, 1856-1936, ed; Pitman, H. Minot (Harold Minot), 1888- ed; Ditmas, Charles Andrew, 1887-1938, ed; De Forest, Louis Effingham, 1891- ed; Mann, Conklin, ed; Maynard, Arthur S., ed Volume: 52 Language: English Digitizing sponsor: The Library of Congress Book contributor: The Library of Congress Collection: library_of_congress; americana Charlene REEDS-EBELING

Continuing with the series from Mary Rita Miller's book, "Place Names of the Northern Neck" (Richmond: Virginia State Library, 1983), I want to touch on Cobb's Hall in Northumberland County, (page 31 of her book). COBB'S HALL. Tract. Northumberland County between branches of Dividing Creek. "It was named in honor of a noted Lee [family] home in Oxfordshire by Major Charles Lee, grandson of Richard Lee, who arrived in in 1651. The present house of brick was built between 1840 and 1853 on the foundation of the second house, which was built in in 1720." ========= Update: by Craig M Kilby, 25 MAR 2011. In recent years, this property has been subdivided and fallen into a sad state of disrepair. It was recent acquired by a couple from New York with extensive experience in salvaging and restoring historic properties, and who intend to restore it to its former glory. You reporter hopes that our member here, Camille Wells, will be assisting with this project. Your reporter is informed that the tracts of land between the house and the water have been purchased by the new owner and that the original tract--or at least it's most important parts--will be reunited. The properties on the left of the house have been developed. The tract on the right is an open (but cultivated) field. Currently, the lot "proper" is overgrown, paint peeling and in general need of lots of tender loving care. Craig

Hi all, For those who don't subscribe to Dick Eastman's online daily newsletter, this new site was just launched. It attempts to cull all genealogy--and genealogy only--web sites from the web and put them in once place. I think it has great promise but the little I tinkered with it (KILBY) did not produce a web site (kilbygenealogy.com) that has been around for several years and was developed by a fairly competent web master. But maybe I didn't look hard enough. Anyway, it's not bad and will return lots of hits that may not otherwise show up easily on a google or other search engine. Thought you all might to give it a try. Here it is: http://www.mocavo.com/ Happy Hunting! Craig

While looking through the Civil War maps at the Library of Congress --LOC.gov-- I noticed they had the Hotchkiss maps available. below is an explanation about the maps. I like the way you can zoom in on a particular area. Phebe Morgan In 1948, an outstanding collection of American Civil War maps was purchased by the Library of Congress from Mrs. R. E. Christian, granddaughter of Major Jedediah Hotchkiss (1828-1899), a topographic engineer in the Confederate Army. Hotchkiss worked principally in the West Virginia and Virginia areas that he had toured during his earlier geological studies and made detailed battle maps. As annotations demonstrate, these maps were used by Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson in planning their campaigns. Many of these maps were used to compile the War Department's definitive Atlas to Accompany the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies (2 vols.; Washington: Government Printing Office, 1891-95). One such map, Hotchkiss' masterpiece, [Map of the Shenandoah Valley], prepared at the request of Stonewall Jackson and presented to the Library by Mrs. Christian in 1964, shows the offensive and defensive points of the Shenandoah Valley from the Potomac River to Lexington, Virginia. Hotchkiss also filled several notebooks with topographic and strategic drawings. The collection includes maps drawn or used by Hotchkiss during his postwar career as a consulting engineer in Staunton, Virginia. The 341 sketchbooks, manuscripts, and annotated printed maps are described in the Hotchkiss catalog compiled by Clara Egli LeGear, which appears in the second edition of Civil War Maps: An Annotated List of Maps and Atlases in the Library of Congress prepared by Richard W. Stephenson.

In a message dated 3/12/11 5:58:49 PM, [email protected] writes: > > I have catalogued most of these new books, and if you are looking for > families in those areas, you might find something new. The books run the gamut > from published abstracts of marriages, guardianships, wills, court orders, > county histories, church histories, and family histories. Her primary focus > was the ROBEY FAMILY. > Is there any way to access the material in the books without coming to the library? I'm in OK and a trip there is impossible. Lou Ann Murphy

All, The Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library was recently donated hundreds of new books from the collection of Iris Stickle of Kilmarnock. We never knew this woman until her death. She had retired to Kilmarnock a few years ago. She was an avid genealogist and the collection consists primarily of books on the Eastern Shore (Accomack & Northampton Counties), quite a bit on Maryland, and Northern Virginia (Loudoun, Fairfax and Prince William Counties, some Alexandria.) I have catalogued most of these new books, and if you are looking for families in those areas, you might find something new. The books run the gamut from published abstracts of marriages, guardianships, wills, court orders, county histories, church histories, and family histories. Her primary focus was the ROBEY FAMILY. Also in the collection were several books on Native American research, quarterly genealogical magazines, etc. It was by far the largest single collection of new material we've received all at one time of BOOKS. (The rival to this was the collection of the late Doris Davison, a well-known NN genealogist. That is still being processed! Most of this was her personal papers and client reports. A great part of that collection was merged into our "Virginia Family Files" loose papers. =========== Meanwhile, at the Northern Neck of Virginia Historical Society in Montross, we recently were donated the entire collection of the late Mary Rita Miller, author of the book I often cite here, _Place Names of the Northern Neck_. Originally, her son said he wanted to donate her working papers for the book which were index cards. When it arrived, however, it was much, much, much more than that! She was also a linguist, and an avid gardener. There are many original dissertations in this collection about language and the history of place names. This is boxes and boxes of material. As for the six or so boxes dealing with the Northern Neck of Virginia Club, I will have to see if that group would like to have their old meeting minutes back in their possession. I rather suspect they will. =========== So, please keep checking both the MBW and NNVHS catalogs to see what is new. (The NNVHS catalog is still under construction but well over 700 books are now entered. In case you have not bookmarked the web sites for the catalogs, they are: Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library http://mbwm.org/search.asp Northern Neck of Virginia Historical Society http://www.librarything.com/catalog/NNVHS =========== Remember. MBW will do research WITHIN THE COLLECTION. Their fees and policy are explained on the web site. Research at NNVHS generally requires an on site visit. Happy Hunting! Craig Kilby

Speaking of name places -- I have ancestor Benjamin CLARKSON (married Fanny GAMES) child was born in Glask-Landing, Middlesex County -- does anyone know where that is? Thanks, Mary Clarkson Buchholz JOSEPH ALBERT7 CLARKSON (BENJAMIN6, JAMES5, PETER4, JAMES3, PETER2, JAMES1) was born 10 Jul 1840 in Glask-Landing, Middlesex, VA1, and died 14 Oct 1923 in Preston Co. WV,. He married MARY FRANCES GAWTHROP 12 Sep 1872 in Preston Co. WV, USA?, daughter of THOMAS GAWTHROP and CATHARINE A. She was born 26 Aug 1855 in Holly Grove, Upshur, (W)V, and died 28 Jun 1916 in Preston Co VA. -----Original Message----- From: Craig Kilby Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:29 PM To: Northern Neck Northern Neck List Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Place Name: Bray's Church (Westmoreland County) This place comes up frequently in the old deeds of Westmoreland. Here is what Mary R. Mitchell has to say about it in her _Place Names of the Northern Neck_: Bray's Church [earlier name for Leedstown] This was one of three churches in Washington Parish, according to Eubank.* It was built about 1678 by Bray, according to Eaton,** but named for RIchard Bray the elder, according to Warner.*** It was the site of the signing of the Leedstown Resolutions [1766 to protest the Stamp Act]. Then there is Bray's Wharf: Edward Bray purchased 334 acres in this vicinity from John Barrow, adjoining the land of John Catlett and Toby Smith, and on this land he built Bray's Church (about 1678) and Bray's Wharf. Nothing remains today of Leedstown or any buildings there [CMK] * H. Ragland Eubank, *Touring History Land: The Authentic Guide Book of Historic Northern Neck of Virginia* (1934) ** David Wolfe Eaton, *Historical Atlas of Northumberland County* (1942). Eaton adds that Edward Bray sold this land to John King, mariner of Bristol, England in 1669. ***Thomas Hoskins Warner, *History of Old Rappahannock County, Virginia , 1656-92* (1965) Craig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This place comes up frequently in the old deeds of Westmoreland. Here is what Mary R. Mitchell has to say about it in her _Place Names of the Northern Neck_: Bray's Church [earlier name for Leedstown] This was one of three churches in Washington Parish, according to Eubank.* It was built about 1678 by Bray, according to Eaton,** but named for RIchard Bray the elder, according to Warner.*** It was the site of the signing of the Leedstown Resolutions [1766 to protest the Stamp Act]. Then there is Bray's Wharf: Edward Bray purchased 334 acres in this vicinity from John Barrow, adjoining the land of John Catlett and Toby Smith, and on this land he built Bray's Church (about 1678) and Bray's Wharf. Nothing remains today of Leedstown or any buildings there [CMK] * H. Ragland Eubank, *Touring History Land: The Authentic Guide Book of Historic Northern Neck of Virginia* (1934) ** David Wolfe Eaton, *Historical Atlas of Northumberland County* (1942). Eaton adds that Edward Bray sold this land to John King, mariner of Bristol, England in 1669. ***Thomas Hoskins Warner, *History of Old Rappahannock County, Virginia , 1656-92* (1965) Craig

I am trying to find parents for Frances BERNARD d 4/26/1726 **************************************************************************** *********************** I am looking for a BERNARD family that connects to HOOE/HOE, DUNCAN, or SPENCER in Westmoreland, Stafford, Prince William and/or Fauquier. Howson HOOE of Stafford Co., VA b 1696-d 1780 King Geo. m 1) Frances BERNARD d. 4/26/1726 Stafford Co. and 2) Anne Francis HARRIS, do Nathaniel. Howson was the son of Col. Rice HOOE, III 1665-1726 and Ann HOWSON. His will names 5 sons and no daughters, but he did have a daughter Ann who m Smallwood MADDOX. The children were all by Ann HARRIS, but interestingly enough his 4th son was named Bernard. Rice HOOE had also m 1) Mary DADE, widow of 1 Gerrard LOWTHER and 2 Robert MASSEY. Rice HOOE had also m 3) Frances TOWNSHEND, previously m to Richard FOSSAKER (son of John FOSSAKER and Elizabeth MOTT), Francis DADE (son of Francis DADE and Behethland BERNARD) and John WITHERS My ancestors Joseph DUNCAN and Lydia (MNU) named their second son b 1757 Howson Hooe DUNCAN and no one can prove Lydia's last name. I am looking for information on the BERNARD/BARNARD family, thinking that Lydia was the daughter of Frances BERNARD who died 1726, which is the right time frame for Lydia to marry Joseph DUNCAN on 5/16/1741 Westmoreland. I have in my data Lettice SPENCER, do Nicholas SPENCER 1633-1689 and Frances MOTTRAM, who m a Mr BARNARD. Does anyone know who he was?? Does anyone have a list of the BARNARD children? Nicholas SPENCER died in Westmoreland--the same county in which Lydia m Joseph DUNCAN. It makes sense that Lettice SPENCER and Mr. BARNARD who have a child Frances who would then name a child Lydia. I have seen the name Lydia in connection with Lettice, Letticia, Ledy, etc. King George Co. VA Will (FHL film 32,058) 1-371: Will of Howson Hooe, of Saint Paul Parish, Stafford Co., 16 Dec. 1773. wife Anne Frances land I purchased of Robert Hughes and land I purchased of George Brent on Sequia? run during life; then my son Bernard; wife Anne Frances and son William land I now live on together with lands I purchased of William Colebough to be equally divided, then to son William; son Bernard; son Howson; have already given sons Howson, John, Harris, Bernard and William Hooe; remainder equally to my five sons Howson, John, Harris, Bernard and William. Exec. sons Howson, John, Harris, Bernard and William. Wit. Robert? Longfellow?, William? Kelley?, ? McKentosh, Alex. Stone. 7 May 1777: wit. John? Burton, Warthenson? (x) Burton. Codicil 7 May 1777. son William entitled to all slaves ...; and my will further is that if my son William should die during my life by which account the lands slaves and other estate devised and bequeathed to him by my said will might be construed a lapsed legacy and the children and family of my son William would receive no benefit now my will and desire is that my granddaughters Anne Frances and Elizabeth and their heirs be entitled to the lands slaves and other estate devised and bequeathed to my son William ... in the contingency aforesaid the wife of my son William shall be entitled to dower in the said lands ... Wit. Alexr. Row (Rose?), Thomas Grant, John Horton?, Wharternon? (x) Burton. Produced in court 4 Jan. 1781 by William Hooe, Gent., exec. 5/7/1777 Codacil to will adds Anne Frances and Elizabeth--daughters of son William Thank You for any assistance, Charlene REEDS-EBELING Genealogical Direct Lines: DAD'S SIDE: REEDS, PORTER, WEAVER(Tilman), RICHARDSON, BOWLING (Group 7), WOOD, ISRAEL, CRAIG, LAIRD, HACKLEY, BALL, CORBIN, ELTONHEAD, TAYLOE, WILLIAMSON, UNDERWOOD, KEENE, WITHERS, MAUZY, CONYERS, WITHERS, KEENE, DUNCAN (Joseph and Lydia-VA), SHIPPEY, MOTT, PIGG, BELL (Stone Church and Roger-Orange Co., Va), BEARD/BAIRD, CARTER (Giles and Theodorick line), WEBB, WADDILL, MICHAUX, CUNNINGHAM---VA --Plus WHITE, HAGERTY, FLATLEY--Green Bay MOMS SIDE: CORNWELL (NY), ANSCHICKS, BECKER, STEDMAN, MORSE, REITZ, BUTZ, KNAUSS, DIEHL, PATTERMAN, THULL, MEHAN, ROMIG, CARL, SIEGFRIED

Dear List, I haven't been active lately but have a question if someone could answer. Was below Henry Alldy the father in law of a Daniel Field? I think so but not 100% positive. I think below Daniel Field had a son Henry Field m. Esther James, d/o George James and Mary Wheeler? Ultimately, I am want to find out if below Thomas Dutton had a daughter Elizabeth Dutton m. William Penn. Thank you, Amanda ============================================================================= WILLS OF Westmoreland County, Virginia 1654-1800 BY AUGUSTA B. FOTHERGILL: Pg 7 PRESCOTT, EDWARD, bound to sea from New England ; New London 12 Sept. 1661; 11 March 1662. My kinsman Henry Alldy; friends Nathaniel Jones and Thomas Dutton to be exrs. of my estate in Maryland and Virginia. 1000 acres rice manor to Mary daughter of Capt. Josias Fendall of Charles Co. Md: ======================================================= 12 May 1708, Daniel Field turned over land to Henry and John Wheeler which their father, Edward Wheeler, had left them in his will. Edward Wheeler was the first husband of Mary Alday. The two Wheeler brothers must have reached majority, thus giving them the full right to the land. (Stafford County, Virginia, Deed and Will Book for 1699-1709, pg 414.) =================================================================================================================================================================================== July-Oct. 1663 - Charles County, Md. Court. Henry Alday/Allday and Mr. Edward Prescot are engaged in litigation with William Smoot. Source: Charles County Circuit Court, Liber B, pp. 158, 170 and 174.

Janean, I'm glad to help here if I am not too late in answering. Craig On Feb 17, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > Hey folks, need a favor! > > > > I have a private request for a look up on Ancestry if someone is subscribed. > My local historical society has come across a headstone and has even had a > professional genealogist research this man but in asking a couple of > questions I believe this person only searched for the man in our particular > county. > > > > I'm wondering now if they didn't think to search surrounding counties. His > headstone is too nice for him to have not been a man of some means and so > far they have come up with nothing on him in our county. I told her I'd see > what I could do to help. > > > > Please contact me privately if you can do a look up me. > > > > Thanks, Janean > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Craig.     Can't help you on War of 1812 Virginia burials, but I do have an ancestor born in Virginia who died at the Battle of New Orleans in 1815 (he actually died after the battle per muster roll dated Feb. 4, 1815).   Probably doesn't apply to your project, but let me know if you'd like more detailed info on him.   Thanks again. David --- On Wed, 2/16/11, Craig Kilby <[email protected]> wrote: From: Craig Kilby <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Question on Appointment of Guardianship in Colonial Virginia... To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 2:49 PM David, and all, I am giving serious consideration to starting a dropbox folder for long emails that others may wish to pick up or refer back to. A list serve is not the best place to post manuscripts. This all does serve to remind me of back in September 2009 when I launched this list, to resubmit my list of "favorite places" on the internet. (Bob's Genealogy Cabinet was one of them.) But, time flies and it is always a good idea to periodically repost the same material, with updates.  And hey! I've found a few new ones. Stay tuned. I have some others to report as well (War of 1812, anybody?....working on a HUGE database of burials of War of 1812 for the Virginia Society. We need your help. I'm up to about 3800 people but one never knows what is hiding back in them thar woods....) Craig On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:16 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > Thanks so much Craig.   Your point on long explanations is well-taken. >  > Thanks also for the link you provided. >  > David > > --- On Wed, 2/16/11, Craig Kilby <[email protected]> wrote: > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey folks, need a favor! I have a private request for a look up on Ancestry if someone is subscribed. My local historical society has come across a headstone and has even had a professional genealogist research this man but in asking a couple of questions I believe this person only searched for the man in our particular county. I'm wondering now if they didn't think to search surrounding counties. His headstone is too nice for him to have not been a man of some means and so far they have come up with nothing on him in our county. I told her I'd see what I could do to help. Please contact me privately if you can do a look up me. Thanks, Janean

David, and all, I am giving serious consideration to starting a dropbox folder for long emails that others may wish to pick up or refer back to. A list serve is not the best place to post manuscripts. This all does serve to remind me of back in September 2009 when I launched this list, to resubmit my list of "favorite places" on the internet. (Bob's Genealogy Cabinet was one of them.) But, time flies and it is always a good idea to periodically repost the same material, with updates. And hey! I've found a few new ones. Stay tuned. I have some others to report as well (War of 1812, anybody?....working on a HUGE database of burials of War of 1812 for the Virginia Society. We need your help. I'm up to about 3800 people but one never knows what is hiding back in them thar woods....) Craig On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:16 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > Thanks so much Craig. Your point on long explanations is well-taken. > > Thanks also for the link you provided. > > David > > --- On Wed, 2/16/11, Craig Kilby <[email protected]> wrote: >

Books and movies are definitely over-romanticized for effect and profits. LOL, However my information came off the internet. http://www.morbidoutlook.com/fashion/historical/2001_03_victorianmourn.html BUT in keeping with your logic and theory which makes much more sense.... We have this continuation of the article. The End of an Era In America, the change in mourning had been brewing long before Victoria's death. The Civil War helped to instigate this change. The war lasted from 1861 to 1865, and approximately 618,000 soldiers died. Twice as many Southern soldiers died than Northern and practically the whole population of the South was in mourning. The depression that all the women in black caused added to an already grieving nation. At one point the governor of Mississippi actually tried to pass a law banning Victorian mourning garb because of the low morale of the people. War changed America's rigid mourning rules out of necessity. Funny that I used them as the example now that you mention it for I always kind of eluded to them as the likes of Scarlet and Ashley. (Didn't think about that when I wrote the first time) but I believe for whatever reason Rawleigh "was to be married" to Easter regardless of their feelings. Then along came Margaret but Rawleigh was married to Easter. Margaret m. Rawleigh Downman who died 1718/19...... while Margaret was pregnant with their child and by 1722 Easter was filing complaint papers against her husband for Margaret bearing a his bastard child. I don't know about other families but I've found many instances so far of illegitimatacy on my dads side.... including my dad...who was, (and was guilty of it himself) then his father's first wife was messing around on him during WWI, his great grand father was illegitimate it appears..... I mean who gets a divorce in 1841 and then she has two kids AFTER the divorce..... lol. The Chinns were notorious for it.... Rawleigh and Margaret....... Charles and Scythia and those are the ones I know of dating back to the 18th century. And they say the morals of yesterday are long gone. Hahaha Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Question on Appointment ofGuardianshipinColonial Virginia... Janean, Delicious. You had to bring up my favorite Northern Neck Scamps--Margaret Ball Downman and Rawleigh Chinn... Now, if we think about "snapshots" in time. The "Gone with the Wind' book (not the movie) is probably at least half way true in terms of GEORGIA. The researcher/editor for that book was Myrna Lockett Avary of Atlanta. As luck would have it, I am distant kin to her (well, her husband).........and it is not a pretty story. Let' just say hers was not a happy marriage and she may have over-romantisized a lot of her background research for the NOVEL. As you aptly point out, the records of the time support no such notion. But, agreed, it is fun reading. I don't believe a word of it. Times were too tough for people to be carrying on with two years of wearing black crepe, sneaking sips of brandy behind curtains, (or wearing curtains) and not working, and so on. Life doesn't work that way. But, it's fun. Craig On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > Was this a steadfast law/rule of thumb? No.. there were MANY scandals back > then as we know from my old Gramps.........Rawleigh Chinn and the famous > "other woman" Margaret Ball Downman..... but wouldn't it be interesting to > see the dates of death and subsequent dates of marriages for Elizabeth > Molsey, Travers/Stevens/Beckingham/Wilkes/Spencer/Mann? > > Janean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janean, Delicious. You had to bring up my favorite Northern Neck Scamps--Margaret Ball Downman and Rawleigh Chinn... Now, if we think about "snapshots" in time. The "Gone with the Wind' book (not the movie) is probably at least half way true in terms of GEORGIA. The researcher/editor for that book was Myrna Lockett Avary of Atlanta. As luck would have it, I am distant kin to her (well, her husband).........and it is not a pretty story. Let' just say hers was not a happy marriage and she may have over-romantisized a lot of her background research for the NOVEL. As you aptly point out, the records of the time support no such notion. But, agreed, it is fun reading. I don't believe a word of it. Times were too tough for people to be carrying on with two years of wearing black crepe, sneaking sips of brandy behind curtains, (or wearing curtains) and not working, and so on. Life doesn't work that way. But, it's fun. Craig On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > Was this a steadfast law/rule of thumb? No.. there were MANY scandals back > then as we know from my old Gramps.........Rawleigh Chinn and the famous > "other woman" Margaret Ball Downman..... but wouldn't it be interesting to > see the dates of death and subsequent dates of marriages for Elizabeth > Molsey, Travers/Stevens/Beckingham/Wilkes/Spencer/Mann? > > Janean