Hi Ruby, Yes, related to both on my maternal side. Had to let my program do it's 'thing' to see the exact relationship: Elias MARTIN: I'm his 2nd great grandniece/1st cousin 4x removed/5th cousin 4x removed Maggie NAY: I'm her 1st cousin 4x removed/2nd cousin 3x removed/5th cousin 4x removed/6th cousin 3x removed Seems like the families inter-married. Makes my head swim!