If person's don't cease putting information on living person's in their gedcom's THROWN up on the Internet, such as Sandra June Skokut Santmyer has done, genealogist's are going to have to worry about much more than will's being destroyed, at least they will be microfilmed as I understand it. Ms. Santmyer choses to ignore pleadings by living person's, identified BY NAME, full NAME I might add in her gedcom's AND children's names.........People such as this are going to be the bane of genealogist's all over the country if this is allowed to continue. I am a family researcher too and do not want to see anything happen to the openess of our vital records etc....and the Internet is a wonderful "tool" for researching but things can get out of hand......Ask yourself this.....do you want the FULL NAMES of YOUR living CHILDREN, adult or MINOR'S and even your grandchildren posted in this manner? If so then give permission, do it yourself, but no person has the right to do this on your behalf. Genealogy is the research of ones Ancestry or Roots and I am NO ONE'S root or ancestor EXCEPT for MY own child, let alone Sandra Santmyer's of which I am NOT. You THINK that this cannot scare or give anxiety to a person then try getting a telephone call like I DID yesterday and you will think twice about it. The "information highway" is a great tool and THEN there are those who abuse it and cause restrictions to be leveled because of abuse. It's kind of like all of the good drivers having to pay higher insurance premium's to cover all the bad driver's that insurance company's still insure. Don't think it can't happen, it's already beginning on a small scale, freedom of speech is one thing.....invasion of privacy is a whole other ball of wax. Don't think that that phone call out of the blue can't happen to you, it happened to me, generated by Santmyer's gedcom. And don't think that the living person's names are redacted from the gedcom's on the Net they are not, not all of them. Before you know it there will be person's complaining to their local county clerks about birth, marriage and death records being open to public comsumption who are not immediate family members and the clerks will tire of this because it will take up county time and taxpayers money for them to field complaints. Again, I don't want this to happen but if people are not more responsible, it might take some time, but never say never. I know that most people do not THROW living person's full names up on the Net in gedcom's but some of you might just be surprised and angered when you find YOUR name and YOUR minor children's names etc.....up there. Jana Thomas On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:03:59 EST LRiffey007@aol.com writes: > > --part1_1a3.108f9ee0.2b78385f_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --part1_1a3.108f9ee0.2b78385f_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <VAPITTSY-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-xc02.mx.aol.com (rly-xc02.mail.aol.com > [172.20.105.135]) by air-xc04.mail.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id > MAILINXC41-0209151612; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 15:16:12 -0500 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com > [207.40.200.41]) by rly-xc02.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id > MAILRELAYINXC29-0209151550; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 15:15:50 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id h19KFV4u027412; > Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:15:31 -0700 > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:15:31 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: donalynsnelling@hotmail.com Sun Feb 9 13:15:30 > 2003 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > From: donalynsnelling@hotmail.com > Old-To: VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com > Sender: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <MFMBM002ljXp2Kxng0C0000e7ab@mfmbm002.myfamilycorp.local> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2003 19:50:36.0497 (UTC) > FILETIME=[83BFE410:01C2D074] > Date: 9 Feb 2003 12:50:36 -0700 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by > lists5.rootsweb.com id h19KFUWK027189 > Subject: [VAPITTSY-L] Immediate Need To Email and Phone VA > Legislators > Resent-Message-ID: <4WDta.A.-qG.ibrR-@lists5.rootsweb.com> > To: VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3937 > X-Loop: VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: VAPITTSY-L-request@rootsweb.com > X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AC.2ACE/1114 > > sage Board Post: > > IMPORTANT IMMEDIATE LEGISLATION AFFECTING VIRGINIA GENEALOGISTS!! > > STATUS: PASSED SENATE 40-0. NOW AT HOUSE OF DELEGATE SUBCOMMITTEE TO > > MEET ON IT MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2003. > > "VIRGINIA SENATE BILL 818-E2-80-94-DESTRUCTION OF WILL FILES. > > http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=031&typ=bil&val=sb818&Sub mit=Go > > > January 31, 2003 Virginia Senate Bill 818 Destruction of will > files. > Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original > will > after it is no longer of any value and after it has been > microfilmed. > > The description of the Bill reads as follows: > > "Destruction of will files. Allows the clerk to destroy a will's > file > along with the original will after 5 years have passed since probate > or recordation and allows destruction of originals of instruments > which have been recorded and remained unretrieved by the recording > party after 6 months, if the documents are no longer of any value > and have been microfilmed." > > > House of Delegates Subcommittee Member Information: > > Chairman Terry G. Kilgore of the House Subcommittee on/for Civil Law > of the House Committee on/for Courts of Justice advises you that a > meeting of the Subcommittee will be held on 02/10/2003 at Committee > will meet immediately after adjournment of the Full Committee. in > 7th. floor West Conf. Room in GAB. . > > Patron Name Bill(s) to be considered at this meeting > > Thomas Norment SB818 > > Civil Law Subcommittee Members to email (must be done immediately): > > Chairman: Kilgore, Terry G. del_Ki-@House.state.va.us > Members: Almand, James F. Del_A-@house.state.va.us > Athey, Clifford L., Jr. Del_A-@house.state.va.us > Black, Richard H. Del_B-@House.state.va.us > Janis, William R. Del_J-@House.state.va.us > Joannou, Johnny S. no email > Johnson, Joseph P., Jr. del_Jo-@House.state.va.us > Marrs, Bradley P. Del_M-@house.state.va.us > McQuigg, Michèle B. del_Mc-@House.state.va.us > Reese, Gary A. Del_R-@house.state.va.us > Robert F. 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