Subj: Ever hear of ESQUIRE RUMBAUGH? My aplolgies to those who get this twice. Hello, I'm looking for help from anyone who is familiar with marriage records in the 1860s. I am searching the counties of western Virginia for another Laizure marriage. I have heard back from the Highland County Courthouse, and they have no record of a marriage between Hiram LAIZURE and Talitha Ann WATSON. Hiram said they were married on August 1, 1866 and Talitha said they were married on August 3, 1866 by ESQUIRE RUMBAUGH. Both agree that they were married in HARD SCRABBLE, VA. Has anyone else on the list ever had a marriage in their family recorded by Esq. RUMBAUGH? Was he even in the local area in the 1860s? At this point, I have tried 3 different areas called Hard Scrabble or Scrabble for this marriage record. 1. Hardscrabble, Highland County, VA 2. Scrabble, Rappan. Co., VA 3. Scrabble, formerly Hard Scrabble, Berkeley Co., WVA. Does anyone else have any ideas where to look? I notice that Washington County, MD had a Hard Scrabble in the past. I would hope Hiram and Talitha were better at geography, than to confuse the two states, but I will be writing there next. Thanks, Sharon Hofer Ontario, California

Hello listmembers, I've transcribed & uploaded the 1930 Poor House census to the Harrison Co WVGenWeb page. I now have all available census years online: 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930. I also have the 1920 HC Children's Home census online, and am in the process of transcribing the 1930. The following is a link to the GenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvharris/ Just click on the "Harrison Co Records" link. Enjoy! Cathy -- ************************************************** Harrison County Coordinator, WVGenWeb (http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvharris) Harrison Co WV Archivist, USGenWeb (http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/wv/harrison.htm) Searcy County Coordinator, ARGenWeb (http://www.rootsweb.com/~arsearcy/) **************************************************

I am trying to find information on John Crouch, 1773-1859, who was married to Mary Fornelson, who was the daughter of Charles Fornelson. The only information I have been able to come up with about Charles is the following: Randolph County WV deed book 3 pages 30-31, dated March 1801, John Crouch and wife Mary, heirs and legatees of Charles, deceased, relenquish their rights to land where Charles lived. And then once again his name appears in a Legislative Petition of Augusta County Va on 11-7-1780 I am trying to find more about Charles and his family. Thanks Randy

I am searching for information on an Esther Clemens( Clemmons/ Clemans) who was a taxpayer in Harrison County in the late 1700s/early 1800 period. Does anyone know whether Esther was a widow as she seemed to be the property owner. Are there wills in Harrison County for the 1808/ 1825 period which might give a clue as to Esther's heirs? I have information from Burlington Co NJ which leads me to believe that Esther was the Esther Burroughs who married Judah Clemens but I have no verification of that . Any help on this puzzle would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jessie, Calif

Hello Everyone, I have a few pictures of the crossroads class taught by Lawrence Pyles, they are two seperate ones. Lawrence is younger in one picture than the other. I can only guess the years by judging his age, he is my great grandfather, he was born Feb. 24, 1886 and he died June 1, 1946. He looks to be in his 20's to early 30's in one picture and in his 40's to early 50's in the other. So if anyone out there either attended or a family member attended this school and think they can help me identify any of the students I will e-mail them the pictures. For photo # 1 the years would probably be in the 1920's and for photo # 2 the years between 1920's and 1930's. My grandfather said his father was one of his teachers when he went to school, he was born in 1907. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You, Brenda Miller

I got this one on the Digest. > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl E. Queen [mailto:carle@enter.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:45 AM > To: VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VA-Har-Mon] Receiving Messages > > > Hello, > Anybody getting my messages? I have sent two and have not > seen either one come up. > > Carl E. Queen > > ______________________________ >

I want to thank everybody for their response to my asking if my E-mails were being received. It appears there was a glitch on this end with local server. Thanks again to a great bunch of people. Carl E. Queen

They pop up fine on my connection.

Hello, Anybody getting my messages? I have sent two and have not seen either one come up. Carl E. Queen

Anybody know who the owner of a web page on AOL by the name of QueenSpires@AOL.com? The page is not longer available and the e-mail address is not valid. If someone would know who this person is please let me know or have them contact me at my e-mail address carle@enter.net. Thanks for any help you can give. Carl E. Queen

--part1_9c.242bf2be.2a857f99_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_9c.242bf2be.2a857f99_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <NUTTER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINYB23-0809121318; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:13:18 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB410-0809121255; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:12:55 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g79GCfh8029762; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:41 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:41 -0600 X-Original-Sender: marien@frognet.net Fri Aug 9 10:12:40 2002 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3D53E9ED.00000E.00160@nutter-home> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:12:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Content-Type: Text/Plain X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1700618) From: "Marie Nutter" <marien@frognet.net> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: 2.0 X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 Old-To: <NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: "Marie Nutter" <marien@frognet.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g79GCe21029688 Subject: [NUTTER-L] Nutter reunion shirts, totes? Resent-Message-ID: <VMu3jB.A.oQH.4n-U9@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2490 X-Loop: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NUTTER-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi everyone, At the first Nutter gathering in Nutter Fort three years ago, I ordered tee shirts and tote bags that were a hit--even with some who couldn't make it. Last year with other committments, I wasn't able to get anything together. This year, though still on overload, I have just ordered some navy tee shirts and natural tote bags with navy handles that will be imprinted next week with a similar mountain design-- 3rd Annual Nutter Gathering August 17, 2002. Nutter Fort, WV Due to my only lately getting excited about it, I have ordered only a dozen of the tote bags. They will be $5. Any proceeds will go to the treasurer of our association. They are 15" x 14.5" x 3" in the same style as last time. They are natural color with navy braided handles and are great for many uses Now the tee shirts will be sold on first come-first serve basis. I am ordering various sizes based on the order from 2 years ago. I hope I can sell them all. If there are any left, I will post a note on the list and mail them. The T-shirts will be $6 for children's 6-8 or 10-12, $8 for sizes S to XL, $9 for sizes 2X and 3X. My printing company/supplier here has given me a catalog and a sample cap to bring to the reunion that we might think about ahead of time for next year. The cap would have a colored bill and the rest natural. The turn-around time on them is 10 days though, so we will plan for them next year if anyone is interested and we can sell them for $5. If you know what size shirt you need and if you want a tote bag, I will reserve them for you at the reunion. Anyone? E-mail me off-list at marien@frognet.net Thanks. Hope to see many of you there! Saturday, August 17, Nutter Fort,WV--Clarksburg City Park. Marie Nutter ==== NUTTER Mailing List ==== Visit the Nutter homepage: http://members.aol.com/WmMartin1/Nutter/index.html --part1_9c.242bf2be.2a857f99_boundary--

At 10:59 AM 8/7/2002 -0500, Iris wrote: . . . >back to the 1780's Gggg-grandfather has listed PA., Va, and I've also >found MD.for the place of >birth? >and my G-Ggrandmother born in 1834 was listed on different documents born in >PA.and VA.? Iris, The dispute between PA and VA was not settled until 1780 and the permanent boundary line was not drawn until 1784. This land was disputed for such a long time that it might have taken decades for the citizens to adjust! Sent the following response to two PA lists where Jim had made the same inquiry, and I apologize to those who also receive those lists, but this response which may help you, too: Yes, the border between VA and PA was fixed by 1844, but it could have been that her family had been among those who still considered the area to be VA long after the border dispute was settled, especially if later they might have supported the southern states as some residents of SW PA did. Or, as I've seen happen, a woman about to give birth returned to the support of her parents' home for the birth. Given that scenario, if you had grown up in one state but were born in another one, you might use that state where you were raised as your "home" state and at other times, give your literal place of birth --- the other state. Recently, while in Harrisburg, I bought a map of PA which was created for the Historical and Museum Commission of PA by the Land Office, showing what they termed a "genealogical map of the counties" indicating the year in which counties were organized and depicting the changes in territorial claims as well as county shape and size in 15 maps spanning 1682-1932. Looked for this on the 'Net and found it at Willow Bend Books: http://www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/shop/displayitem.cfm?IID=3368 for $2.00. Best regards, Jane

Thanks Jane, For all the information, I''ll check into the the map, Might be just what I need? Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane McCann Walsh" <jmwalsh@icubed.com> To: <VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] SW PA borders

By 1844 when your ggrandmother was born, the boundaries between VA (now WV) and PA were set as they exist today, including the northern boundary of Monongalia county. Jim

My ggrandmother, born in 1844, had sometimes given PA as the state she was born in, and sometimes she gave VA. I realize that Monongalia County, VA in the late 1700s extended up into what is now SW PA.; but I am wondering if there were any border changes in the 1800s in the SW corner of PA. Or, if my ggrandmother was born near the border of PA and VA, maybe she was confused about the state that she was born in. Also does anyone know if there are maps showing the different changes in state and county borders in this part of the country? Thanx, Lou

Hi Jim, and All I have just about the same questions as Lou, except my ancestors go back to the 1780's Gggg-grandfather has listed PA., Va, and I've also found MD.for the place of birth? and my G-Ggrandmother born in 1834 was listed on different documents born in PA.and VA.? I would be interested in knowing, if there is a website that would list the old and new State and County boundaries? Your help is appreciated, Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: <JSample763@aol.com> To: <VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] SW PA borders By 1844 when your ggrandmother was born, the boundaries between VA (now WV) and PA were set as they exist today, including the northern boundary of Monongalia county. Jim

Hi All, Just wanted to let you know that the address for Bill and Betty Riley has been changed. The server has dropped the 'access' part of the address and didn't notify us of the change. Had I not received a copy by smail of a returned email , I would not have known. Anyhow, according to a spokesperson for Mountain Net, the company is not sending through mail with the "access" in the address, therefore, I don't know what mail has not come through and if you have sent anything in the last month that has been returned to you, that is the reason. The "new" address is briley@mountain.net I will probably be sending another address before too long as I am seriously considering changing servers mainly due to this experience. Betty Evans Riley Box 540, Davis, WV 26260 Researching: EVANS: Wales>Pa.>Va>(W)V (Monongalia>Tyler Counties) DENBOW Md>Ohio; ROGERS-Oh; GRAHAM: Pa. JEMISON: Scotland>Ireland>Pa>(W)V-Tyler Co. MARTIN: V>(W)V-Monongalia BROWN: Pa>(W)V-Tyler WILLIAMS: (W)V-Monongalia WHITE: Oh>(W)V-Tyler BAKER: Germany>PA>(W)V>Oh-Monroe RILEY: Ireland>Md/Va>(W)V ARNOLD: WV CARTER: Va>WV WV: KERNS; HARDMAN: Md, (W)V; SOMERVILLE; REYNOLDS; OTT: CONRAD; SHEPPARD; and more mainly in WV-counties of Monongalia; Marshall; Tyler; Harrison; Lewis; Roane; Wirt; Jackson; Kanawha

To one and all, have a great time............... diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Gilchrist Stalnaker" <hcpd@hackerscreek.com> To: <VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: [VA-Har-Mon] Washington Irving Alumni Day > If you graduated from Washington Irving High School, > Clarksburg, "anytime", you are invited to the Second Annual Washington > Irving High School Alumni Day at the Clarksburg City Park, Nutter Fort, WV, > on Saturday, August 24, at noonish or before or whenever you get there. It > is "covered dish" - come and join in the fun. > > Here's the notice that was posted in our on-line alumni newsletter. hope > you have made your plans to attend the 2nd annual WI ALUMNI DAY to be held > on Saturday, August 24, 2002 at the > Nutterfort Park in Clarksburg. Time 11:30 am until you leave. I hope all > who live near or in Clarksburg will plan to attend. > Come on over to the park and bring a friend, relative or the spouse. Let's > show Clarksburg that we WI Alumni are still kicking > up some Fun! Don't forget your memories and memorabilia of your school > years. Bring a camera-there may be some there that > you haven't seen in years and maybe won't see again for several more years. > > This isn't just a get together for one class, it is for ALL ALUMNI. Come > see an old neighbor-boyfriend, girlfriend, pal, a > friend's mother or father..who knows who you will find there????? We will > spend the afternoon in the shade eating, trading > stories, laughing and getting reacquainted. It doesn't take a lot of work > on your part --- bring a covered dish, your own drink > and some money to put in the "hat" when it is passed around to help cover > the cost of the pavilion rental and expenses for > supplies. COME ONE-COME ALL! > > If you have any questions, comments or wish to make your reservations --- > contact Joy Gregorie Stalnaker at > hcpd@hackerscreek.com. > > And. . . if you haven't heard about the online newsletter, pay a visit > to: http://wi59.tripod.com/news/newsletter.html > > and then subscribe by contacting Roleta at Roleta1@aol.com. > > Directions to the park: > > >If you are travelling on I-79 , you will get off at Exit 115 , Stonewood - > >Nutter Fort exit. You will be exiting onto Rte 20. Take Rte 20 North 2 miles > >and you will pass through town of Nutter Fort. City Park will be on your > >right as you enter town. > >If you are coming in on Rte. 50 , you will get off at Joyce Street Exit. You > >will be exiting onto Rte 20. Take Rte. 20 South 2 miles and you will pass > >through town of Nutter Fort. City Park will be on your left. > >Park is directly across from Bonnie Bell'e's Bakery and Speedway Filling > >Station. > > > Then follow the blue and gold crepe-paper to our pavillion!! > > Joy Gregoire Gilchrist-Stalnaker > > > P.S., Please pass this on to any that you know might be interested. > > > > > Joy Stalnaker > "God bless America" > > > > >

If you graduated from Washington Irving High School, Clarksburg, "anytime", you are invited to the Second Annual Washington Irving High School Alumni Day at the Clarksburg City Park, Nutter Fort, WV, on Saturday, August 24, at noonish or before or whenever you get there. It is "covered dish" - come and join in the fun. Here's the notice that was posted in our on-line alumni newsletter. hope you have made your plans to attend the 2nd annual WI ALUMNI DAY to be held on Saturday, August 24, 2002 at the Nutterfort Park in Clarksburg. Time 11:30 am until you leave. I hope all who live near or in Clarksburg will plan to attend. Come on over to the park and bring a friend, relative or the spouse. Let’s show Clarksburg that we WI Alumni are still kicking up some Fun! Don’t forget your memories and memorabilia of your school years. Bring a camera-there may be some there that you haven’t seen in years and maybe won’t see again for several more years. This isn’t just a get together for one class, it is for ALL ALUMNI. Come see an old neighbor-boyfriend, girlfriend, pal, a friend’s mother or father….who knows who you will find there????? We will spend the afternoon in the shade eating, trading stories, laughing and getting reacquainted. It doesn’t take a lot of work on your part --- bring a covered dish, your own drink and some money to put in the “hat” when it is passed around to help cover the cost of the pavilion rental and expenses for supplies. COME ONE-COME ALL! If you have any questions, comments or wish to make your reservations --- contact Joy Gregorie Stalnaker at hcpd@hackerscreek.com. And. . . if you haven't heard about the online newsletter, pay a visit to: http://wi59.tripod.com/news/newsletter.html and then subscribe by contacting Roleta at Roleta1@aol.com. Directions to the park: >If you are travelling on I-79 , you will get off at Exit 115 , Stonewood - >Nutter Fort exit. You will be exiting onto Rte 20. Take Rte 20 North 2 miles >and you will pass through town of Nutter Fort. City Park will be on your >right as you enter town. >If you are coming in on Rte. 50 , you will get off at Joyce Street Exit. You >will be exiting onto Rte 20. Take Rte. 20 South 2 miles and you will pass >through town of Nutter Fort. City Park will be on your left. >Park is directly across from Bonnie Bell'e's Bakery and Speedway Filling >Station. Then follow the blue and gold crepe-paper to our pavillion!! Joy Gregoire Gilchrist-Stalnaker P.S., Please pass this on to any that you know might be interested. Joy Stalnaker "God bless America"

--part1_4f.21655924.2a7eb6a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_4f.21655924.2a7eb6a8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <NUTTER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-st06.mail.aol.com (rly-st06.mail.aol.com [172.20.75.164]) by air-xb05.mail.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINXB51-0803123832; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 12:38:32 -0400 Received: from rly-xb05.mx.aol.com (rly-xb05.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.106]) by rly-st06.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA23606; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-xb05.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB54-0803123424; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 12:34:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g73GYBYF014958; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:34:11 -0600 Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:34:11 -0600 X-Original-Sender: EWNutter@aol.com Sat Aug 3 10:34:11 2002 From: EWNutter@aol.com Message-ID: <8c.1c0fa815.2a7d5ffe@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:34:06 EDT Old-To: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10516 Subject: [NUTTER-L] Directions for Reunion/Nutter Fort, WVa Resent-Message-ID: <fmziYC.A.kpD.DYAT9@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2488 X-Loop: NUTTER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NUTTER-L-request@rootsweb.com For those planning to attend the 3rd Nutter and Allied Families Reunion, I will send directions to the Clarksburg City Park Concession Shelter, Nutter Fort, W.Va. Have contacted some more of the local families who plan to attend this year. One is Lee Nutter who owns property with the Nutter Cemetery. If you are travelling on I-79 , you will get off at Exit 115 , Stonewood - Nutter Fort exit. You will be exiting onto Rte 20. Take Rte 20 North 2 miles and you will pass through town of Nutter Fort. City Park will be on your right as you enter town. If you are coming in on Rte. 50 , you will get off at Joyce Street Exit. You will be exiting onto Rte 20. Take Rte. 20 South 2 miles and you will pass through town of Nutter Fort. City Park will be on your left. Park is directly across from Bonnie Bell'e's Bakery and Speedway Filling Station. Anyone using Rte. 19 near Summersville, I was down there last weekend , and speed traps are still going strong. Newspapers in Canada are telling their people to continue down I-79 to I-77 and avoid the new Rte. 19 4-lane. Officers for Town of Summersville wrote 18,000 speeding tickets last year.Dept of highways even installed speed boxes telling your vehicle speed as you enter city limits. Ed Nutter ==== NUTTER Mailing List ==== NUTTER AND ALLIED FAMILY REUNION - AUGUST 17, 2002 to be held at South Clarksburg City Park in Nutter Fort, WV --part1_4f.21655924.2a7eb6a8_boundary--