----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" <alice34@alltel.net> To: <VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: [VA-Har-Mon] Rightmire > Searching for any Last Will and Testament information for any Rightmire (varius spellings Rickmire, Rightmyer, Rechtmeyer, Ritemeyer, Ritmer, etc, etc Harrison, Monongalia, County (West) Virginia....or any other available information..........appreciate you checking any publications you have for me. Alice > > > Researching Rightmire, New Jersey, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Iowa, Nebraska or anywhere we find them........................ > >

Searching for any Last Will and Testament information for any Rightmire (varius spellings Rickmire, Rightmyer, Rechtmeyer, Ritemeyer, Ritmer, etc, etc Harrison, Monongalia, County (West) Virginia....or any other available information..........appreciate you checking any publications you have for me. Alice Researching Rightmire, New Jersey, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Iowa, Nebraska or anywhere we find them........................

Amen & well said. Bill Mc Afee (if you're looking for me, try the 48160 ZIP in the 734 AC! ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusiCP@aol.com> To: <VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] Dangerous Info I think not > What a shame that you are all so paranoid. LET me share a story with you. > > When my Parent and Uncle were small family split. For 50 years family hunted > for family. MY Uncle had unlisted numper was not in phone book. MY DAD moved > to area family was not aware of. When I started genealogy I was able to get > permission to advertize my Uncle's name on the web. Within weeks we had > calls from family looking for his generation. His name was different and > harder to track my DAD's was very common and not easy to find for name > purpose though we were looking for DAD's Aunts, Uncles and his Father since I > was about 8 years old. Yes we found his DAD when I was 11/12. I got to meet > a special human because DAD and Uncle knew they had family. Dad was oldest, > Uncle almost youngest so he learned most from DAD. > > We learned family had come to our town looking for Uncle and his name because > he was not in phone book no one ever found him, til many many years later. HE > missed three cousins he knew when small by having an unlisted number. The > wife came to visit 2 weeks after we found each other. She told us how they > hunted so many times in San Diego for my Uncle. :<( My Uncle cried that he > had not changed his unlisted to listed after learning family spent so much > time and money looking for him. > > I located my Dad's cousin within the state and other cousins in states near > us. > MY Uncle got to meet these cousins my DAD had already passed on. > > So go ahead and remove your name and address, its like a phone book. Then > you might just as well close the books on your genealogy for your future > generations and stop what your doing for its all for naught. > > When I joined the local society they didn't want there names on the surname > file. > I said,"HOw can people contact you if you don't leave a name and address?" > They looked at me sorta dumb and said," O, we didn't think of that." Our > parania is going to > to destroy our research. Some day there will be no phone book, only on line > and then people again will fight the same problem we have today. NO ADDRESS, > NO PHONE, NO NAME. > I use the white pages to find same last name kin, it was one of the first > things I was taught in the old school before computers. We use the old ones > today for people for census in the 1850's and up and sometimes before. Think > before you function. > >

The phone listing service you are being paranoid about - lists anyone who is listed in the white pages of their local telephone book. I looked and I am listed, but when I checked on my children who recently moved within the last year, their numbers were listed as the previous owners' telephone numbers and the addresses for the previous owners. When I looked up my parent's phone number [which is unlisted] it was not found. This information can be obtained by anyone looking for you in public accessed phone directories. And by using Map Quest or Yahoo's service plug in a phone number or an address to locate those who are looking to travel to the listed address. The only suggestion - have your phone number unlisted. Remember, public access is how you have been finding information on your ancestors.

I doubt yo have to worry about the UPS guys. They wouldn't have a job if they broke into places. Gloria WErtz wrote: > > I live in a rural route and have a PO box and when I ordered a package of > craft stuff, USP will not deliver to a PO box. They went to the post office > and got my address and delivered the package. I was thanksful he left the > package on the porch and did not break in. That too can be scary. > > Gloria Wertz of Point Marion, PA > You are now between the Young and the Restless and the old and the > senseless.

I so agree!! So sorry that many "run scared" of the Internet. It is such a great research tool, and has helped so many of us in our search for family! Barb Swisher-McCarty

Me too!

I personally prefer "genealogy only" on this type of site. I have nothing against the messages, but I get too many messages. Following is the message Claiborne Co., TN site uses: ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== VIRUS WARNINGS, SOLICITING, CHAIN LETTERS, JOKES, MISSING CHILDREN NOTICES, POLITICAL MESSAGES, FLAMES, PRAYERS, etc., are grounds for your immediate removal from this list. Randy Stalnaker wrote: > There are pros and cons to both sides, and each individual has the right > to express their opinion regarding the information they consider should > or should not be kept private. > I do not believe that some are being paranoid if they prefer this > information > not be available so easily, but think that most people should be aware > that the same information is available through other sources, not just > this one. > It is very easy to go to web sites like anyoneanywhere.com and look up > information on individuals if you know what city and state to look in, > most of the time if you find the person you are looking for, it will > show an address and sometimes a phone number. Psonally I don't think > this is a good idea, but there are just as many people who disagree with > me and my views concerning information on living persons on the > internet, Randy

There are pros and cons to both sides, and each individual has the right to express their opinion regarding the information they consider should or should not be kept private. I do not believe that some are being paranoid if they prefer this information not be available so easily, but think that most people should be aware that the same information is available through other sources, not just this one. It is very easy to go to web sites like anyoneanywhere.com and look up information on individuals if you know what city and state to look in, most of the time if you find the person you are looking for, it will show an address and sometimes a phone number. Psonally I don't think this is a good idea, but there are just as many people who disagree with me and my views concerning information on living persons on the internet, Randy

Dear List: I personally favor having this list TOTALLY OPEN to all types of messages, but I am aware that is not a unanimous feeling, so I am saying up front: this is NOT Genealogy! DELETE keys are easy to find, if you wish!! I am still connected to the Department of Defense and have received a very recent press release regarding the current policy concerning mail to our military men & woman involved in Southwest Asia. I would hope that whatever your personal feelings are regarding this war, that you would "stand behind" our country's FINEST. I won't duplicate what follows, except to say it pretty well covers all aspects of "mail to the troops." I hope it clarifies any question you might have. GOD BLESS AMERICA! Lee R. Jenkins, US Army, Retired *********************************************************************** Subject: Troop Support Mail Policy Stressed NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of Defense No. 139-03 (703)697-5131(media) IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 22, 2003 (703)428-0711(public/industry) TROOP SUPPORT MAIL POLICY STRESSED To bolster force protection, the general public is urged not to send unsolicited mail, care packages or donations to service members forward deployed unless you are a family member, loved one or personal friend. On Oct. 30, 2002, the Department of Defense (DoD) suspended the "Operation Dear Abby" and "Any Servicemember" mail programs due to force protection concerns.  Although these programs provide an excellent means of support to friends and loved ones stationed overseas, they also provide an avenue to introduce hazardous substances or materials into the mail system from unknown sources.  Unsolicited mail, packages and donations from organizations and individuals also compete for limited airlift space used to transport supplies, war-fighting materiel and mail from family and loved ones. Recently, DoD has become aware of organizations and individuals who continue to support some form of the "Any Servicemember" program by using the names and addresses of individual servicemembers and unit addresses.  These programs are usually supported by well-intentioned, thoughtful and patriotic groups who are simply unaware of the new risks facing deployed military forces.  Some individuals and groups publicize the names and addresses of service members, ships or units on Web sites, with good intentions.  The result, however, is a potential danger to the troops they wish to support. DoD cannot support creative and well-intentioned efforts that defeat force protection measures, but can instead recommend alternatives to mail and donation programs.  To show support to troops overseas, the following are recommended: * Log on to the following Web sites to show support, to include greeting cards, virtual Thank You cards and calling card donations to help troops stay in contact with loved ones: http://www.defendamerica.mil/support_troops.html http://www.usocares.org/home.htm http://www.army.mil/operations/iraq/faq.html * Visit Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals and nursing homes. Volunteer your services to honor veterans who served in past conflicts. Mail from family members and loved ones has always been encouraged and the military mail system will continue to work hard to get that mail to servicemembers overseas. [Web version: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/b03222003_bt139-03.html] -- News Releases: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/releases.html -- DoD News: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/dodnews.html -- Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/dodnews.html#e-mail -- Today in DoD: http://www.defenselink.mil/today

So you have one "positive story" for MAKING SURE that you can be found....how many NEGATIVE ones balance that out???? Paranoia is another word for "being careful."

Randy I am interested in the STALNAKER's of Deckers Creek who moved to Virginia after 1930-- in Monongalia Co WV. Mentioned in will and follow up of land that belonged to Marshall JOHNSON who died ca 1936. Now where did I put that will that the land went to -----STALNAKER ,Married name d/o Marshall JOHNSON. I know this dosent male much sense. DO you have kin from Monongalia Co WV after 1930?? Dallas JOHNSON Randy Stalnaker <randystalnaker@webtv.net> wrote:There are pros and cons to both sides, and each individual has the right to express their opinion regarding the information they consider should or should not be kept private. I do not believe that some are being paranoid if they prefer this information not be available so easily, but think that most people should be aware that the same information is available through other sources, not just this one. It is very easy to go to web sites like anyoneanywhere.com and look up information on individuals if you know what city and state to look in, most of the time if you find the person you are looking for, it will show an address and sometimes a phone number. Psonally I don't think this is a good idea, but there are just as many people who disagree with me and my views concerning information on living persons on the internet, Randy

This is similar to my sister-in-law finding her sister that she hadn't seen for 45 plus years. She did get to see her before she died and it was due to the Internet and searching records. -----Original Message----- From: SusiCP@aol.com [mailto:SusiCP@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:55 AM To: VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] Dangerous Info I think not What a shame that you are all so paranoid. LET me share a story with you. When my Parent and Uncle were small family split. For 50 years family hunted for family. MY Uncle had unlisted numper was not in phone book. MY DAD moved to area family was not aware of. When I started genealogy I was able to get permission to advertize my Uncle's name on the web. Within weeks we had calls from family looking for his generation. His name was different and harder to track my DAD's was very common and not easy to find for name purpose though we were looking for DAD's Aunts, Uncles and his Father since I was about 8 years old. Yes we found his DAD when I was 11/12. I got to meet a special human because DAD and Uncle knew they had family. Dad was oldest, Uncle almost youngest so he learned most from DAD. We learned family had come to our town looking for Uncle and his name because he was not in phone book no one ever found him, til many many years later. HE missed three cousins he knew when small by having an unlisted number. The wife came to visit 2 weeks after we found each other. She told us how they hunted so many times in San Diego for my Uncle. :<( My Uncle cried that he had not changed his unlisted to listed after learning family spent so much time and money looking for him. I located my Dad's cousin within the state and other cousins in states near us. MY Uncle got to meet these cousins my DAD had already passed on. So go ahead and remove your name and address, its like a phone book. Then you might just as well close the books on your genealogy for your future generations and stop what your doing for its all for naught. When I joined the local society they didn't want there names on the surname file. I said,"HOw can people contact you if you don't leave a name and address?" They looked at me sorta dumb and said," O, we didn't think of that." Our parania is going to to destroy our research. Some day there will be no phone book, only on line and then people again will fight the same problem we have today. NO ADDRESS, NO PHONE, NO NAME. I use the white pages to find same last name kin, it was one of the first things I was taught in the old school before computers. We use the old ones today for people for census in the 1850's and up and sometimes before. Think before you function.

I live in a rural route and have a PO box and when I ordered a package of craft stuff, USP will not deliver to a PO box. They went to the post office and got my address and delivered the package. I was thanksful he left the package on the porch and did not break in. That too can be scary. Gloria Wertz of Point Marion, PA You are now between the Young and the Restless and the old and the senseless.

Thank you for the information. I was there also but am no more. Ethel

What a shame that you are all so paranoid. LET me share a story with you. When my Parent and Uncle were small family split. For 50 years family hunted for family. MY Uncle had unlisted numper was not in phone book. MY DAD moved to area family was not aware of. When I started genealogy I was able to get permission to advertize my Uncle's name on the web. Within weeks we had calls from family looking for his generation. His name was different and harder to track my DAD's was very common and not easy to find for name purpose though we were looking for DAD's Aunts, Uncles and his Father since I was about 8 years old. Yes we found his DAD when I was 11/12. I got to meet a special human because DAD and Uncle knew they had family. Dad was oldest, Uncle almost youngest so he learned most from DAD. We learned family had come to our town looking for Uncle and his name because he was not in phone book no one ever found him, til many many years later. HE missed three cousins he knew when small by having an unlisted number. The wife came to visit 2 weeks after we found each other. She told us how they hunted so many times in San Diego for my Uncle. :<( My Uncle cried that he had not changed his unlisted to listed after learning family spent so much time and money looking for him. I located my Dad's cousin within the state and other cousins in states near us. MY Uncle got to meet these cousins my DAD had already passed on. So go ahead and remove your name and address, its like a phone book. Then you might just as well close the books on your genealogy for your future generations and stop what your doing for its all for naught. When I joined the local society they didn't want there names on the surname file. I said,"HOw can people contact you if you don't leave a name and address?" They looked at me sorta dumb and said," O, we didn't think of that." Our parania is going to to destroy our research. Some day there will be no phone book, only on line and then people again will fight the same problem we have today. NO ADDRESS, NO PHONE, NO NAME. I use the white pages to find same last name kin, it was one of the first things I was taught in the old school before computers. We use the old ones today for people for census in the 1850's and up and sometimes before. Think before you function.

How uninformed is the general public. How many of you have gone to your local library and looked at the City Directory or your County Directory. They have been around for years. (some of the large cities had them in the 18th century). For a few bucks you can buy one. Almost every business has a copy, at least the ones that are members of Chamber of Commerce. They give all kinds of information about you and your family. I think some of them may even tell what color underwear you have on. The Internet just makes it available to people that what to hide in their homes and spy on their neighbors. Dick Wilt, Bridgeport, WV <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/kl7aiz">www.RWILT.com</A>

Check this out ... get your local phone and look for your name. Probably there. Your phone number and address too. And any cabbie or UPS delivery guy can find your house. Even the pizza delivery guy can find you. We never considered this such a dangerous thing. But that's just me, I could be wrong. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Mdvanpelt@aol.com [mailto:Mdvanpelt@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:15 PM To: VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VA-Har-Mon] Dangerous Info Check this out.....New Google Feature <<http://www.google.com/>> Type your telephone number into Google's search bar (minus the first 1) & click the search button. Your name and address and phone number will appear. There will be an icon next to your address "Yahoo Maps". Click this and a map to your house will pop up with directions to your house from anywhere in the country. People could use this feature to locate your home address, and receive explicit directions on how to get there from anywhere in the country. You can remove your name off this database-- To do this...type in your full phone number...555-123-4567 If your number appears in the mapping database, an icon resembling a telephone will appear next to the entry on the results page. Click on this icon and it will take you to a page containing a description of the service, and a link to request your number be removed!

Thanks you for this information - I tried it, and there I was --- too scary!!!

Ah, the advantages of living on a rural route. Our name and address were there, but the map was no good! Had us removed anyway. Thanks for the info! Susanne -----Original Message----- From: Mdvanpelt@aol.com [mailto:Mdvanpelt@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:15 PM To: VA-Harrison-Monongalia-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VA-Har-Mon] Dangerous Info Check this out.....New Google Feature <<http://www.google.com/>> Type your telephone number into Google's search bar (minus the first 1) & click the search button. Your name and address and phone number will appear. There will be an icon next to your address "Yahoo Maps". Click this and a map to your house will pop up with directions to your house from anywhere in the country. People could use this feature to locate your home address, and receive explicit directions on how to get there from anywhere in the country. You can remove your name off this database-- To do this...type in your full phone number...555-123-4567 If your number appears in the mapping database, an icon resembling a telephone will appear next to the entry on the results page. Click on this icon and it will take you to a page containing a description of the service, and a link to request your number be removed!