I agree with all of those who want to continue as is. I have not yet begun to participate fully, but am receiving a lot of helpful information from the correspondence being generated to the list. Thanks for all you provide. Sincerely Suzanne (Maddix) Hurtado -----Original Message----- From: Eleanor Skidmore [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] personal messages I agree!!! Eleanor Dear Sue, Please do not change a thing. There is a button on the keyboard that says "delete". Let all complainers use it and let's leave things the way they are. I have picked up information from these so-called personal messages. I have found that once a list gets busy, someone gets offended at getting too much mail. Never fails. Jean

I agree. Some of the personal e-mails have been very helpful to me. Betty

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Hello All, I agree in leaving the service as is. As most of you do, I receive quite a bit of email at work and have learned the art of skimming! I have fortunately done most of my research via the internet and have never know the methods my uncle used while originally completing his research. His methods included trip after trip to location after location. It was the classic detective's story - leads and findings. I have known many people that were stalled for 5, 10 even 15 years without any leads and then, quite by chance, a breakthrough happens. This forum can be that "chance" happening. In conversations, we discuss certain aspect of our histories. Before you know it, an unknown distant relative may discuss a funny story and then *poof* you have your connection and that breakthrough happens. The reason the internet has become an irreplaceable tool for our family research is the ease of data access. Look at us as a small microcosm. I am from a suburb of New York City and I am speaking to people that are from accross the county - all of who have roots in the West Virginian area. I am also accessing the LDS database and library and pulling specialty books and periodicals and having them shipped to my local LDS family history center. 15 years ago, I would have had to visit Utah for such information. I think it's wonderful!! Well, I have orderd a handfull of books on all of these topics. None of them are in yet but I hope to be able to help the group in the way that Brian has brought many tidbits of history with nothing more than our asking. Thank you Brian. Once I have received the books, I'll aleart you all as to the titles. I know I won't be quick on the turnaround time but will have fun in completing the research. I'll put away my soapbox for the rest of the day!!! Regards, Edward

<Would you have any info on Olive Fleming born 1855 married to Robert Morris born 1856?>> I checked volumes 4 and 5 of The Monongalia Story, and found no mention of Olive Fleming or Robert Morris. Didn't Frank M. Brand write a book about the Flemings? I don't have it, but if it's as good as his book about the Wade family, it may have some useful information. On 23 December 1841, Barton Core married Nancy Willey Fleming, probably a daughter of Levin Fleming. That branch of the Cores have been close to the Flemings ever since. The Morris family is harder to trace because there are so many unrelated clans, all wanting to be related to Robert Morris of Philadelphia, who underwrote much of our nation's debt during the Revolution. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 [email protected] Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Anne, Just an aside here. I had a full screen of the personal messages. I went down the list to the last one deleting them. Out of curiosty, I looked at the last one and it was by a lady in a collateral line of mine that I had not been able to turn up. Mike

Hi Listers, I usually keep my personal thoughts to myself but I feel it might be helpful to anyone objecting to a mailbox full of e-mail from the list that they subscribe to the Digest and not the List and then all the messages come in one Digest. I, too, objected to the flood of e-mail and someone set me straight about the difference. It is easy to scan through and then delete if nothing pertains to me. Anne

Brian, In my research it said that Charles Donaldson killed his son William because he was going to testify against him in a trial for theft by Charles Donaldson. Michael Shannon

Norma, Sorry but I enjoy reading all the mail on the list. I think they are things of interest to all who are climbing their family treeS (definitely plural). I have found out info of some of my ancestors I didn't realize they were even a leaf in my tree. Nancy Casto Scardina

Congratulations Brian. And I think it's proper to wish the young lady best wishes. She's a lucky gal and you have good taste, I'm sure. So, to both of you, Gods blessings. Betty

Brian, You are something else! Michael

Thought someone may be able to use these. Brenda Charles Wayne Wilson, 18, of Fairview, died Saturday July 8, 1967 in his home. He was born in Fairmont, Jan. 2, 1949, a son of Chester and Bertha Moody Wilson. Survivors include the parents, a brother, Earl Richard; a sister, Linda; his grandparents, John R. and Mary Moody. He graduated in 1966 from Fairview High School and was employed by the Barnes Construction Co. at Colfax. Perry Wilson, 92, of Moody's Run, near Barrackville, died Sunday July 2, 1967 in his home. He was born in Monongalia County, Dec. 23, 1874, a son of the late Azariah and Eunice Myers Wilson. His wife Martha Yost Wilson died Dec. 8, 1958. He is survived by five sons and six daughters; Homer M., Edgar A. and Wilford R. Wilson, Stean R., and James W. Wilson, Mrs. James (Josephine) Hillberry, Mrs. Ida Musgrove, Miss. Prudie Wilson, Mrs. Willard (Opal) Friend, Mrs. Burwell Kennedy and Mrs. Henry (Lilly) Smouse, 21 grandchildren, 33 great grandchildren and six great-great grandchildren. One son and four brothers are deceased. Mr. Wilson was the last survivor of his family. He was a retired farmer. Jesse H. Wilson, 83, of Fairview, died Friday April 26, 1974 at Fairmont General Hospital after a long illness. He was born on Laurel Run, near Fairview, June 11, 1890, a son of Leroy and Harriet Wilson. Survivors include his widow, Pauline Swiger Wilson; a sister, Mrs. Allie Foley, two sisters; Dessie and Laura and five brothers; Okey, Fred, William C, Ross and Lonnie are deceased. He was an employee of Hope Natural Gas Co., and was a veteran of World War I, Mr. and Mrs. Wilson celebrated their 52nd wedding anniversaryin Dec. 1973. He attended St. John's United Methodist Church. Lewis Wilson, 81, of Moody's Run died Thursday Dec. 11, 1975 in Fairmont General Hospital. He was born Dec. 11, 1894 at Daybrook, a son of the late P.S. and Eliza Yost Wilson. He was a retired rural mail carrier. Surviving are his widow, Mrs. Rose Price; one son, Fred R. Wilson; one daughter; Mrs. Ralph (Peg) Mason, three brothers; S.D. Wilson, Floyd R. and D.L. Wilson, four sisters; Miss Ethel Wilson, Mrs. Elsie Lanham, Mrs. J.W. Wilson and Mrs. Ellen Summers, seven grandchildren. Clyde W. Wilson, 81, of Mannington, died Thursday Jan. 4, 1979 in his home. He was born July 25, 1897, a son of the late Stephen N. and Nora Pyles Wilson. His wife, Mrs. Ida Owens Wilson preceded him in death on April 3, 1975. Survivors include two daughters; Miss Lillian Wilson and Mrs. Lou King, one son; Donald I. Wilson, three sisters; Mrs. Blair (Arah) Ammons, Mrs. Kelly (Emma) Tennant, Mrs. Mabel Myers, one brother; Alph Wilson, six grandchildren and five great grandchildren. He was a member of the Daybrook Church of Christ and was a retired employee of the Carnegie Natural Gas Co. Burial was made in the Mannington Memorial Park Cemetery.

Hello Everyone, Thought I would share a few obits that someone may be able to use. Brenda Lawrence W. Wilson, 53, an employee of the City of Fairmont for 27 years died yesterday (Aug. 24, 1954) . He was a member of the United Mine Workers and the Church of Christ of Mt. Nebo. Mr. Wilson was born in 1901 at Barrackville, a son of the late Dollie Wilson Fetty. He resided in the home of Mr. and Mrs. Robert Hiner. Survivors include his wife, Dalra Wilson, two brothers, Jake and Edward Wilson, both of Grant Town. A sister, Stella and a brother Charlie is deceased. Burial was made at Mt. Nebo Church Cemetery. Ray H. Wilson, 71, of Anns Run, Fairview, died Tuesday June 29, 1993 at Fairmont Geneeral Hospital. He was born May 31, 1922 in Fairview, a son of the late Charles and Dolly Tennant Wilson. Survivors include his wife Daisy Moore Wilson, a daughter, Pansy Strosnider, a foster daughter, Mary Beth Null and four grandchildren. He was preceded in death by two sisters; Arlice Hostetter and Thelma Monahan; and three brothers, Roy, Chester and Clyde. He was a retired pipefitter and a member of the Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 152. He served in the U.S. Navy in the Pacific during World War II from Oct. 9, 1944 until Feb. 22, 1946. He was a member of St. John's United Methodist Church. Burial was made in the Basnettville Cemetery. Cora Wilson, 74, of Deerfield Estates, White Hall, died Friday June 4, 1993 at Fairmont General Hospital. She was born Jan. 9, 1919 in Fairview, a daughter of the late Martin L. and Nettie Pearl Darrah Haught. Her husband, Lloyd W. Wilson died Nov. 20, 1968. She is survived by two daughters; Mrs. Marvin (Naomi) Lemley and Mrs. Frank (Alberta) Suplita; one brother, Robert Haught; four sisters, Mrs. Chester (Chloe) Jones, Mrs. John (Dorothy) Moore, Mrs. Eugene (Madalean) Utt and Mrs. Joseph (Lucille) Jordan; 5 grandchildren, Sherry Efaw, Scott Lemley and Andrew, Jimmy and Doug Suplita. She was also preceded in death by one brother; Roy Haught, three sisters, Myrtle Ammons, Virginia Shriver and Ruby Toothman, also one grandson, Frankie Suplita. She retired in 1981 from Westinghouse Electric's Fairmont Plant after 37 years of service. She was a homemaker and a member of the Church of Christ and the Westinghouse Retired Employees Association. Burial was made in the Beverly Hills Memorial Gardens. Mrs. Roxanna Wilson, 52, of Rt. 3 Fairview, died on Thursday in Fairmont Emergency Hospital. She was born May 7, 1909 in Marshall County, a daughter of the late Eli Michael and Cora Alice Grimm Workman. Survivors include her husband, Jake Wilson; a son, Charles Herbert Wilson, at home; a brother Charles Dewey Workman, a half brother Vernon Minor; a half sister, Mrs. Violet Neely. A brother and sister are deceased. James Wells Wilson, 67, of Manley Street Barrackville, died Tuesday Aug. 18, 1981 in Fairmont General Hospital. He was born Dec. 221, 1913 in Marion County, a son of the late Perry and Martha Yost Wilson. Survivors include his widow, Mrs. Virginia Bissett Wilson, two sons, James Lee and Gerald Thomas Wilson, two daughters, Martha Joan Wilson Keener and Loretta Lou Dodrill. Also 4 brothers and six sisters, 10 grandchildren and three great grandchildren. He was a member of the Bethesda Baptist Church of Barrackville and was a retired employee of Sharon Steel withh 26 years of service. Burial was made in the Beverly Hills Memorial Gardens. Chester Wayne Wilson, 55, of Fairview died Wednesday May 6, 1981. He was born April 11, 1926, a son of the late Charles Wilson and Dolly A Tennant. Survivors include his wife Bertha Moody, one sone, Earl Wilson, one daughter Linda Elsinger; two brothers, Roy and Ray Wilson, two sisters, Thelma Monakan and Mrs. Arnold Hostetler and one grandson Charles Wayne Wilson. One son, Charles Wayne Wilson and one brother are deceased. He was a member of St. John's United Methodist Church and an employee of Consol Loveridge Local 9909 and Veteran of World War II. Burial was made in the Toothtman Cemetery. Alta Marie Hibbs Wilson, 81, of Route 1 Wadestown, died Tuesday Nov. 16, 1993 at Fairmont General Hospital. She was born Aug. 11, 1912 in Wetzel County, a daughter of the late William and Mary Hibbs. Her husband, Edward Wilson died May 2, 1972. She is survived by one daughter, Kathryn Choe Cain, fourr brothers: Ernest, Samuel, James and Harold Hibbs, two sisters; Laurine Hibbs and May Parrish, one half sister, Maxine Mack, one step sister, Hazel Styles, four grandchildren, seven great grandchildren, three great-great grandchildren and 10 step grandchildren. She was also preceded in death by one sister, Georgie Brewer, two step daughters Clemmie King and Betty Harris; one step sister, Lucy Rebolt, one half sister Bonnie Hayes and three half brothers; John and Robert Hibbs and Charles Taylor. She was a homemaker and a Protestant. Miracle Run man dies of injuries paper dated June 20, 1939 Richard Robinson, 76, of Miracle Run, who died early Sunday morning in the Greene County Memorial Hospital, Waynesburg, Pa., of injuries suffered when he was thrown from a horse last Tuesday. The deceased suffered a fractured skull when his horse, startled by a rock which fell from a bank nearby became unmanagable and threw its rider. Mr. Robinson was born Nov. 4, 1862 on Miracle Run, son of Alpheus and Amanda Tuttle Robinson. He spent his entire life in the Miracle Run vicinity. He was married to Nancy Lemley, who died several years ago. He was a member of the Miracle Run Methodist Church for 50 years. Survivors include two brothers, Eber and Andy Robinson and a sister Mrs. Amanda Tennant. Burial was made in the Park Cemetery. Date of Death was June 1939 Audia Eddy Toothman, 68 of Hagans, wife of David C. Toothman, died Sunday in her home following a long illness. She was a daughter of Calvin and Eliza Jane Morris Eddy of Monongalia County and was born August 4, 1885. Survivors include her husband and four daughters; Mrs. Judson Merriman, Mrs. Frank Glasscock, Mrs. Willis Statler and Mrs. Michael Kuciah; 16 grandchildren; a brother, Luther Eddy; two sisters, Mrs. Emma Neely and Mrs. Ida Hawkins. Burial was made in the Hagans Cemetery. Date was missing from paper. Burial was made in the Fairview Cemetery.

Dear List, I have read and observed the give and take, as well as the previous messages referred to as personal. While I do think sometimes there may be some best left to personal replies, at the same time, of all the lists I subscribe to, this one is BY FAR the most helpful by individuals to other individuals. As long as it is this way, there are bound to be some messages that some people find too personal. But I find the alternative of a sterile clean impersonal list extremely unhelpful. Many replies back to the list may still help more than just the one intended recipient. Thanks for all the help I have received, Robert Stansbury

Helen, Well, I with you.You never know when you'll find something useful. I had a page full of "personal messages" on my screen. I just deleted them all down to yours which was the last.Out of curiousity, I read it. My Gr-Grandfather's Grandfather on his mother's side was Corneilius McShane. He had a sister Ellen who m. Thomas Jarrett. Thomas, I think, had a brother George. Are these any kin? Michael Shannon Joseph Guseman>Godfrey Guseman>Amaziah Guseman>James Donaldson Gusman>Oliver Gusman>Gloria Gusman>Michael Shannon Corneilius McShane>Mary McShane m. Amaziah Guseman>James Donaldson Gusman

I intend to answer every e-mail as best as possible, however long it takes. Folks on this list are the greatest, and I enjoy it even when the volume gets unbearable. I thought that the Charles Donaldson murder case deserved a little bit more of a mention, since it would be considered outrageous even in today's society that has been numbed by violence. In the 1790's, people genuinely feared God. Murders were exceedingly uncommon. Telling a white lie would have made people fear for their soul. But to murder your own son while he begged for mercy...it makes me wonder what the motive was. Was Charles Donaldson mentally ill, drunk, or just wicked? I doubt we'll ever know. Volume 1 of Melba Pender Zinn's "Monongalia County, (West) Virginia: Records of the District, Superior and County Courts 1776-1799" (please, no more lookups this week!) paints a grim picture. In 1789, Donaldson was charged with robbing Joseph Stuart of "a quantity of thread and some hoggs lard and butter." Jane McCann Walsh's nth-uncle Samuel Ruble was a potential juror. Donaldson was found guilty of petty larceny, not grand larceny. In December of 1791, Moses Williams sued him in a case of trespass for 1,000 pounds current money. In those days, trespass usually meant debt. In 1796, while Donaldson was in confinement, he bound out his 11-year-old daughter Susannah to Christopher Stealy. Stealy was to purchase Donaldson's farm as part of the arrangement. Various envelopes, now in Colson Hall at WVU, hold accounts of the murder trial, witnesses' statements, and Donaldson's confession (in envelope number 29, if you're interested). All of these have been microfilmed by the LDS, and can be rented from your Family History Center. Bartholemew Jenkins, William Norris, George Baker, and Doctor Lewellen gave depositions stating that Donaldson had admitted the murder to them. Jenkins' deposition is the most interesting. He stated that he visited Donaldson's home, where he "saw William Donaldson lying murdered in a stone heap." He asked Donaldson if he had murdered his son, and he admitted to it. When asked how, he stated that "he choked him to death with a rope, that he tied him in the bed while he was asleep and William gave a spring and got out of the bed, then Charles and William conversed together and the boy begged for God's sake to save his life, but Charles refused and told him that he would kill him and drew the rope so as to choke him and then carried him to the stone heap where he was found dead." The deposition was given on 20 May 1796. But that's not all! It was anticipated that an attempt would be made to free Donaldson, and the court records are full of payments to people for standing guard. On 23 September 1796, John Alleswald (probably a corruption of some other German name) was charged with passing a loaded pistol through the bars to Donaldson. In spite of testimony from a number of witnesses, Alleswald was found not guilty. In 1797, John Odewalt (the same man mentioned above?) was charged with passing a loaded pistol to Donaldson. A warrant was issued for his arrest, but he was not found. An order was issued to sieze his property, but he didn't have any within the jurisdiction. Why do you suppose anybody would have wanted to save Donaldson, when he admitted to such a brutal crime? There is no record of Donaldson's execution, although a man was paid to construct his gallows. Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 [email protected] Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Please leave things alone. It was good to know the names of others that came from where my ancestors did. Maybe someday I will find a link to one of them. Helen Jarrett ----- Original Message ----- From: Eleanor Skidmore <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] personal messages > I agree!!! > > Eleanor > > Dear Sue, > > Please do not change a thing. There is a button on the keyboard that says > "delete". Let all complainers use it and let's leave things the way they > are. I have picked up information from these so-called personal messages. > > I have found that once a list gets busy, someone gets offended at getting > too much mail. Never fails. > > Jean > > > > >

You can unsubscribe by sending a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. But you might want to hold on a while longer. This flurry of activity will pass soon. It always does. --Dick Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [VA-Har-Mon] Personal Emails ! how do i unsubscribe from this list that floods my mailbox!!!!

Is anyone working on the Ford line in Harrison co. WV (VA)that might help Virginia? Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Searching for my paternal grandfather Dear Sue, I am searching for my grandfather, William Elza Ford, whom I believe was born in Taylor County around 1860-1870. He was twice married and I do not know the name of his first wife, however that union produced three children, i.e. Robert, Emma and Gertrude ( not sure of girl's names). His second marriage was to my grandmother, Elva Helen Glover and I have traced one line of her lineage back to 1500. The children of his second marriage were -----Nina, Beulah (my mother) and two sons who died at about ages 2 and 4. Grandfather Ford died in Harrison County around 1937, 1938 or 1939. He is buried in the Old McIntire Cemetary between Viropa and Enterprise. I have searched for many hours in the Gen Web World Connect and many other web sites, and have hit a "stone wall" as far as finding any information about him. He lived in Enterprise for many years and the house where he lived was later sold to the DeMary Family, and since then has burned down. It was located near the former Free Methodist Church and across the street from Dr. Nutter. The street is on the road leading to Matheny Hill. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Virginia Shaver Gibson P.S. Are you the same Sue Moore who lives in my former home in Enterprise??????

For those who are interested, my marriage on June 9th won't be the end of genealogy for me. My betrothed finds that genealogy is a much more constructive hobby than sitting on the couch in my underwear drinking beer and watching overpaid athletes. Hey, let's get back to genealogy! The Wade Family by Frank Brand gives us: "Earl Brown, born July 4, 1897, married Edna Guseman, daughter of Edward Guseman, December 16, 1922, and lives at Vanvorhis. Children: (1) Wilma Genevieve; and (2) William Edward. Vol. 4 of Monongalia Story has a John W. Guseman of Preston County, who was an organizer of the Iron Valley and Morgantown Railroad in 1881. Same volume, Susannah Cobun, daughter of Abraham Guseman, died on 20 March 1910, at the age of 101. it was said that she was the only "real" daughter of the American Revolution in the county, so I take this to mean that her father was a vet. Page 101 same volume says that abraham Guseman was the first settler in what is now the Dellslow community, where he built a cabin in 1793. He later built a flour and carding mill there, and the community became known as Guseman's Mills. The mill was sold to Lewis Hagedorn, and later became known as Hagedorn's Mills. In 1914, Sadie Guseman became director of the state's Girl's Agriculture Clubs, which were governed by the agricultural extension department. Vol. 3 mentions that Abram Guseman came from Martinsburg and settled on Decker's Creek, about 5 miles from the mouth, in 1779. In 1811, Jacob, son of Abram Guseman, located near the site of Guseman. A John Guseman was a private in Captain Samuel Wilson's Militia Company in 1812; Godfrey Guseman was a Lieutenant in the same company. In 1812, Jacob Guseman settled at the site of King's Mill, where he ran a carding machine. In 1813, Jacob Guseman bought "Pierson's corn cracker," on Muddy Creek. A tradition says that a hound was at the meal trough licking up the meal as fast as it came down, and barked at the spout for more. Jacob Guseman was postmaster at Crab Orchard, which was then (18230 a part of Preston County. There was no mention of the Guseman family in volumes 1 or 5. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 [email protected] Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.