In a message dated 3/2/2004 9:06:40 PM Central Standard Time, jhubbard@mcn.org writes: Dear John and Mary, I'm sorry I can't help this lady. I haven't researched those names. I'm sure she has tried the following: www.ancestry.com ; www.familytreemaker.com ; www.rootsweb.com ; www.familysearch.com ; www.gencircles.com and other sites. Aunt Janet I am seeking information about Kathryn (Kay/Katie) Turner, formerly (possibly still?) of Grapevine, TX. My maternal grandfather (Frank William Roepke) married Julia C. (Furton) Martin in Manhattan, KS in 1953 after his first wife died. Julia was the mother of Kathryn Frances Martin and sons Ernie, Garvin, and Edwin. Kathryn married Norman Turner and they had a daughter, Linda. In 1966, Julia wrote me that Linda had just had a daughter, Traci Linn. Unfortunately she did not mention Linda's married name or where she lived. She did give an address for Kay in Wichita KS but when Julia died in 1967 the obituary said Kay was from Grapevine, TX. After Julia's death, our family lost contact with her children by her first marriage. Although I read this list religiously to learn about my paternal grandmother's family (Rays and Holts), I never thought I would find another connection to Wise County. I am hoping that someone who reads this list will know of Kay or her husband Norman or her daughter Linda and help me re-establish contact with them. I am preparing a new family history on the Roepke family and would like nothing better than to be able to include updated information and photos of Kay and her family. The only photos I have of them are ones that my father, Ed Schrock, took of them during the late 1940's probably. Julia adopted all 33 of her stepgrandchildren as though they were her own, and we loved her dearly. She was the only grandmother I knew on that side of the family. I have learned recently that Kay's brother Garvin died a few years ago, as did her brother Ernie. But I am unable to find Kay, Norman, or Linda. Please contact me if you have any information that would help me, or suggestions about how to find them. Perhaps someone on the list lives in or near Grapevine and has heard of them? Janet (Schrock) Hubbard