We show the following "Penn" birth records in Wise County: (see page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-M-Q.htm ) PENN James Ambrose (TN) VAN CLEAVE Catherine (AL) Josephine Alice 07/09/89 F Decatur (13790) PENN James Ambrose (TN) VAN CLEAVE Catherine Prudence (AL) Bessie Francis 08/07/87 F Decatur (19806) PENN James Ambrose (TN) VAN CLEAVE Katherine Prudence (AL) Royal Van Cleave 10/14/96 M Decatur (11411) ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Bradford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: [TXWISE] Death Certificate - James Ambrose Penn > All: > > My wife is the grand-niece of James Ambrose Penn (wife was Prudence > Catherine Vancleave). She has been trying to obtain identification of her > great-grandparents and as a result has been trying to obtain death > certificates on all of the great-grandparents children. James Ambrose Penn > died November 11, 1911. The State of Texas does not have a death > certificate on him (we have tried). > > Does Wise County have a death certificate or other record on James Ambrose > Penn that would identify his parents? We think the parents were a James > Penn (Warren Co., Tennessee, born Virginia) and a Permelia Francis > Garretson (also born in Virginia). We have found Permelia F. Penn's grave > at Bee Creek, Ellis Co., Texas. We have not located a death record on the > father (Permelia indicates she is a widow in the 1880 census for Ellis > Co.). > > We "think" that James Ambrose Penn's father was James Abram Penn, his > grandfather James Francis Penn, and his great-grandfather was Col. Abraham > Penn (Rev. War) but only the dates fit, we have no proof. > > Any assistance you may be able to provide will be appreciated. > > Thank You, > Richard Bradford > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message