ps... http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wksmith&id=I0124 Shelby, this is the file that I was looking at. I was just playing there some more, going back a few generations on the William Alexander (w Nancy Dean), HIS father and siblings, so forth. I see that the name George does run hot and heavy in that family, and there are male lines that are unaccounted for. And it does go back into Virginia (as your George mentions his father being born in VA). Gut instinct. Keep your shovel handy.