Sherrie, You don't have to pay to join find a grave.  Just register. Kind regards,   Kathy Williams    "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein ________________________________ From: sherrie flud <fluds@hotmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:57:37 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] (Picture removed by List) Is there any way to find these without having to join this group?  I am searching for someone in Oklahoma.  Does anyone know of a free service there? Thanks   Sherrie Flud  > From: Grferrari@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:41:50 -0500> To: txwise@rootsweb.com; mrpostman@suddenlink.net> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] (Picture removed by List)> > > Hello Don, > You might want to check the following link out also. I believe that the > tombstone that you are looking for is also listed on "Find A Grave".> > _http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Williams&GScid=5832&GRi> d=22706743_ > (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Williams&GScid=5832&GRid=22706743) &> > Glenda Ferrari> > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2009 4:09:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > LaDarlaK@aol.com writes:> > I saw a picture of a headstone on your web site, and I think it is what I > have been looking for for several years. It is of J N Williams. It is in > one of > the alphabetically listed pages of headstone pictures. . Would you mind > looking at it for a minute? The site did not mention the name of the > cemetery. I > believe it is for Jasper Newton Williams. The time and place are right, and > the dates on the headstone coincide with information I have. > Are there any records at the courthouse, or an obituary as far back as > 1885? > The informant might be the same person who made the headstone. They seemed > to know dates. Maybe old Jasper got hung, and they asked him for the > particulars. > Thanks, > Don Williams > 2003 West Kentucky > Midland, TX 79701 > mrpostman@suddenlink.net> > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http:> //www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe> bemailfooterNO62)> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message> > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. AOL Music takes you there. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002)> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has any record been made of law enforcement officers and firefighters who have given their lives in service to Wise County? Is there any monument to their Any information you have on this valuable part of Wise County history would be appreciated. Thanks Manshadow Waylett

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Kathy, I also would like a copy of this. Thanks --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Kathy Nobles Phipps <kathynobles@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Kathy Nobles Phipps <kathynobles@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article To: txwise@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 6:18 AM Carla, if you'll look in the HAMBRIGHT file at the museum, you'll see a document titled "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright. He wrote it in 1919, about 2 months after the deaths of his parents. It's a wonderful history told to him by his father about why people from Tennessee migrated to Texas in the 1880's and about what they went through during the Civil War years earlier. He talks about Texas being a land of opportunity, free land, and that men were being imprisoned in Tennessee for debt. No one in my family was imprisoned for debt, but they had everything but their 400+ acres of land stripped of everything by soldiers from the north. I will be happy to email a copy to anyone who might be interested in reading it. Kathy Nobles Phipps P.O. Box 1704 Decatur, TX 76234 > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:24 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Earl,> I am not sure why the migration from Tennessee to Texas in the 1880's. My greatgrandparents migrated from Pulaski, Giles Co., Tennessess about 1886 to Wise Co. Texas. One of my great uncles came to Texas before the others.> I will get started on the research and see what I can find on the family and see if it gives any reason for their migration to Texas.> It might take me a few days so as soon as I find anything I will send you a summary of all of it and tell what there is. I have a cousin that married a Morris so I will try and see if she knows anything about the family. Just a chance they might be kin.> If you don't hear from me give me a heads up. I babysit our 2 great grandsons two days a week and that eliminates those days.> Have a wonderful week.> Carla> ----- Original Message -----> From: Earl Morris <earlhmomorris@hotmail.com>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:09:11 -0500 (EST)> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > > Carla, my name is Earl Morris. A good number of my Morris ancesters lived in and aroung Wise county. My> great great grandfather, Jesse M. Morris and wife, Elizabeth moved the family from Tennessee to Texas, probably> shortly after 1880 (they were in the 1880 ten census). Some of their children were Jesse Whitfield Morris, David Lee> Morris, Elizabeth (Lizzie) Morris, W. W. Morris. My grandfather preceded them to Texas and was first in Cooke > county and married Fannie Beyette Milligan in 1882 in Wise county.> > I was wondering is there were any newspaper articles depicting any migration from Ten to Texas shortly after> 1880. They were in your county throughout the 80's and 90's. or books referencing them. There are or were> other unrelated Morris families there also.> > I would be glad to pay for fee for research. Since I live in Wi, I am in no position to research in person.> > Thank you for any possible help. Earl Morris. E-mail: Earlhmomorris@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:01:08 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Vicki,> Email address for the Wise County Historical Society is: wisemuseum@embarqmail.com. Our webpage is www.wisehistory.com. We have the newspapers from 1880 to present in one and 1893 to 1933 in another. We have family files, family books, Wise History books, and a lot of other resources. We do research for a fee, which helps pay for expenses and upkeep on our building.> Thank you> Carla Womack, volunteer> Wise County Historical Society, Inc.> P.O. Box 427> Decatur, Texas> wisemuseum@embarqmail.com> or my address> carwom@embarqmail.com> ----- Original Message -----> From: JerryVicki1976@aol.com> To: txwise-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)> Subject: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Hello,> > I am wondering HOW to get a copy of an article from the 24 Dec 1880 Wise > County Messenger ??> > There is no title to the story that I know of, but the article is about a > "Dock Pills ( Pitts) " who killed his brother in law, McGee............> > Any information on how to obtain a copy of this article would be GREATLY > appreciated........> > Thank you for your help in this matter.> > Sincerely,> Vicki Martin _JerryVicki1976@aol.com_ > (mailto:JerryVicki1976@aol.com) > **************Who's never won? 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Hello Don, You might want to check the following link out also. I believe that the tombstone that you are looking for is also listed on "Find A Grave". _http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Williams&GScid=5832&GRi d=22706743_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Williams&GScid=5832&GRid=22706743) & Glenda Ferrari In a message dated 2/10/2009 4:09:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, LaDarlaK@aol.com writes: I saw a picture of a headstone on your web site, and I think it is what I have been looking for for several years. It is of J N Williams. It is in one of the alphabetically listed pages of headstone pictures. . Would you mind looking at it for a minute? The site did not mention the name of the cemetery. I believe it is for Jasper Newton Williams. The time and place are right, and the dates on the headstone coincide with information I have. Are there any records at the courthouse, or an obituary as far back as 1885? The informant might be the same person who made the headstone. They seemed to know dates. Maybe old Jasper got hung, and they asked him for the particulars. Thanks, Don Williams 2003 West Kentucky Midland, TX 79701 mrpostman@suddenlink.net **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http: //www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002)

Thank you David Pitts for the help. I am waiting now for a reply from the Wise County Museum. maybe they can find something. Don Williams

I saw a picture of a headstone on your web site, and I think it is what I have been looking for for several years. It is of J N Williams. It is in one of the alphabetically listed pages of headstone pictures. . Would you mind looking at it for a minute? The site did not mention the name of the cemetery. I believe it is for Jasper Newton Williams. The time and place are right, and the dates on the headstone coincide with information I have. Are there any records at the courthouse, or an obituary as far back as 1885? The informant might be the same person who made the headstone. They seemed to know dates. Maybe old Jasper got hung, and they asked him for the particulars. Thanks, Don Williams 2003 West Kentucky Midland, TX 79701 mrpostman@suddenlink.net **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

Don, If the following headstone is the one you were asking about, then it can be found in the Opal Cemetery.  All the headstone photo names include the cemetery where that headstone can be found.  Williams, J.N. July 25, 1832 June 7, 1885 (Older stone - Initials are different) opal-022.jpgYou should consider contacting the Wise County Museum to find newspaper information about a death in 1885.  Typically in that period only brief death notices were given, not detailed obituaries like we have today.  However, you won't know until you take a look. The Wise County Museum will charge a small fee to find an article (if it exists) and and send it to you. http://www.wisehistory.com/ David Pitts Houston TX --- On Mon, 2/9/09, mrpostman@suddenlink.net <mrpostman@suddenlink.net> wrote: From: mrpostman@suddenlink.net <mrpostman@suddenlink.net> Subject: [TXWISE] Genealogy To: "txwise-l@rootsweb.com" <txwise-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 9:13 PM I saw a picture of a headstone on your web site, and I think it is what I have been looking for for several years. It is of J N Williams. It is in one of the alphabetically listed pages of headstone pictures. . Would you mind looking at it for a minute? The site did not mention the name of the cemetery. I believe it is for Jasper Newton Williams. The time and place are right, and the dates on the headstone coincide with information I have. Are there any records at the courthouse, or an obituary as far back as 1885? The informant might be the same person who made the headstone. They seemed to know dates. Maybe old Jasper got hung, and they asked him for the particulars. Thanks, Don Williams 2003 West Kentucky Midland, TX 79701 mrpostman@suddenlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder what our illegal's call it? -----Original Message----- From: txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JEMCCRIGHT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:38 PM To: txwise@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article If you speak Texan, it is a "single-tree". If you speak the Kings English it is a "swingle-tree". **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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In response to.... Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article Ok, have to ask: What is a "swingle-tree" ? It is not a "swingle-tree", correct terminology is a "single tree". A single tree is the device behind the horse used to draw a wagon or plow. It was usually made from oak wood (sometimes steel) approximately 24" long with metal ends shaped like eyelets. The eyelets connected to the trace chains leading back from the horse's collar. Clyde Edmonds txwise-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 1880 news article (Fidldeetoo@aol.com) > 2. Re: 1880 news article (Linda Johnson) > 3. Re: 1880 news article (marthawsv) > 4. Re: 1880 news article (Ronald and Carla WOMACK) > 5. Single Tree (buddat@swbell.net) > 6. Re: 1880 news article (Sandra Jenkins) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:25:17 EST >From: Fidldeetoo@aol.com >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article >To: txwise@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c59.40b45af9.36c2f65d@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Kathy, my husband's grandfather was one of the Tennesseeans that came to >Texas after the Civil War. He was born in 1858 and lived to be 99 years and 10 >months old. We have yet to find his great grandfather's burial place. I have >found Samuel Patton Coffman in Parker and Wise counties after they arrived in >Texas. Other family stayed in Knoxville, TN area. Would love to read the >article. Faye Coffman >**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >Awards. AOL Music takes you there. >(http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002) > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:43:39 -0600 >From: "Linda Johnson" <memes6@charter.net> >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article >To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000f01c98b96$584ebc00$08ec3400$@net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I googled "swingle-tree" (which is the correct spelling) and found many >articals. > >swingletree > n : a crossbar that is attached to the traces of a draft horse > and to the vehicle or implement that the horse is pulling > [syn: whiffletree, whippletree] > >Also on You tubeyou can watch an explanation on what it is >---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ06Br6J0wo > > >Linda Johnson >Amazed in His presence.....humbled by his love. > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Gil Allison >Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:24 PM >To: txwise@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article > >Ok, have to ask: What is a "swingle-tree" ? > > >December 24, 1880 >State News >Jacksboro, Dec. 18-- A fatal affray occurred at a late hour last night at >Lick Branch, fifteen miles northeast of Jacksboro. An altercation arose >while attending a country dance, between a man styled DOCK PILLS (PITTS?) >and his brother-in-law named MCGEE, and was brought to a close by McGee. and > >stabbed Pills in the throat inflicting a wound from which Pills soon >afterward expire. McGee left the house after committing the murder, followed > >by a brother of the murdered man named PETE PILLS. This morning MCGEE was >found dead about 100 yards away from his house, his skull broken by a blow >from a swingle-tree, which was lying beside him. It is alleged that when >Pete Pills left the house, in which the dance was held, he carried with him >the swingle-tree which was found by the body of McGee. > >Tidings of the affray reached Jacksboro at 3:00 this morning. SHERIFF KING, >with his shooting irons, was quickly in the saddle, facing a freezing >northern en route to the scene of the murder where he arrested PETE PILLS >who is now in jail here, charged with the murder of McGee. The parties >concerned were prosperous farmers and leave families. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:57:57 -0800 >From: marthawsv <marthawsv@aol.com> >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article >To: "Wise County Rootsweb" <txwise@rootsweb.com>, > kathynobles@hotmail.com >Message-ID: <5195D997.270A.4E11.A9B8.7DADB455CF2D@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Kathy (kathynobles@hotmail.com), > >Is the document?"In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright" one that you could post in this forum? Then it would be available to all of us and to list members in the future as part of the archives!? >-- >?Martha? >Genealogy - So many ancestors...so little time! > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:28:40 -0500 (EST) >From: Ronald and Carla WOMACK <carwom@embarqmail.com> >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article >To: txwise@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <544110088.4332791234283320308.JavaMail.root@md24.embarq.synacor.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Kathy, > Thank you. Our Archives at the Museum are extensive. I don't think everyone know what all we do have. Thanks to LaDarla and Sue who have contributed so much on Wise County's behalf. The Archives that the Museum have Family Files and Books that individuals have been so gracious to send and add to our Archives, Two newspapers back to the 1880's to present,We have research books from other counties of Texas and states, Census records, funeral records, We have obituaries, some family files on Cd's that can be purchased, 3 Wise County History Books, and it goes on and on. We do research for individuals, however, we do have to charge a fee, which helps us with the expenses of the Museum. We do not just look for a few minutes, we search all our information to help to find other clues for you. > Our hours at the Museum are 10 A.M. until 3 P.m. Monday through Saturday. We would love to have any and all to come by and visit. We have been renovating our Building and have shows all during the year. > So please spread the word if anyone needs help with research who lives out of town give us a chance to see what we might be able to find for you, or if yours in town stop by and check out our Archives. Also check and see if we are having a show that month. Have wonderful talent in Wise County. > Again, THANK YOU to everyone who supports the Wise County Historical Society, Inc. (which takes care of the Museum) by donations and letting us help you with your Genealogical research. > God Bless and Have a wonderful week. > Carla Womack, volunteer >Wise County Museum > Wise County Historical Society, Inc. > P. O. Box 427 > Decatur, Texas 76234 >wisemuseum@embarqmail.com >Webpage: www.wisehistory.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kathy Nobles Phipps <kathynobles@hotmail.com> >To: txwise@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:18:37 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article > > >Carla, if you'll look in the HAMBRIGHT file at the museum, you'll see a document titled "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright. He wrote it in 1919, about 2 months after the deaths of his parents. It's a wonderful history told to him by his father about why people from Tennessee migrated to Texas in the 1880's and about what they went through during the Civil War years earlier. He talks about Texas being a land of opportunity, free land, and that men were being imprisoned in Tennessee for debt. No one in my family was imprisoned for debt, but they had everything but their 400+ acres of land stripped of everything by soldiers from the north. > >I will be happy to email a copy to anyone who might be interested in reading it. >Kathy Nobles Phipps > >P.O. Box 1704 >Decatur, TX 76234 > > > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:24 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Earl,> I am not sure why the migration from Tennessee to Texas in the 1880's. My greatgrandparents migrated from Pulaski, Giles Co., Tennessess about 1886 to Wise Co. Texas. One of my great uncles came to Texas before the others.> I will get started on the research and see what I can find on the family and see if it gives any reason for their migration to Texas.> It might take me a few days so as soon as I find anything I will send you a summary of all of it and tell what there is. I have a cousin that married a Morris so I will try and see if she knows anything about the family. Just a chance they might be kin.> If you don't hear from me give me a heads up. I babysit our 2 great grandsons two days a week and that eliminates those days.> Have a wonderful week.> Carla> ----- Original Message -----> From: Earl Morris <earlhmomorris@hotmail.c! > om>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:09:11 -0500 (EST)> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > > Carla, my name is Earl Morris. A good number of my Morris ancesters lived in and aroung Wise county. My> great great grandfather, Jesse M. Morris and wife, Elizabeth moved the family from Tennessee to Texas, probably> shortly after 1880 (they were in the 1880 ten census). Some of their children were Jesse Whitfield Morris, David Lee> Morris, Elizabeth (Lizzie) Morris, W. W. Morris. My grandfather preceded them to Texas and was first in Cooke > county and married Fannie Beyette Milligan in 1882 in Wise county.> > I was wondering is there were any newspaper articles depicting any migration from Ten to Texas shortly after> 1880. They were in your county throughout the 80's and 90's. or books referencing them. There are or were> other unrelated Morris families there also.> > I would be glad to pay for fee for research. Since I live in Wi, I am in no position to! > research in person.> > Thank you for any possible help. Earl Morris. >E-mail: Earlhmomorris@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:01:08 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Vicki,> Email address for the Wise County Historical Society is: wisemuseum@embarqmail.com. Our webpage is www.wisehistory.com. We have the newspapers from 1880 to present in one and 1893 to 1933 in another. We have family files, family books, Wise History books, and a lot of other resources. We do research for a fee, which helps pay for expenses and upkeep on our building.> Thank you> Carla Womack, volunteer> Wise County Historical Society, Inc.> P.O. Box 427> Decatur, Texas> wisemuseum@embarqmail.com> or my address> carwom@embarqmail.com> ----- Original Message -----> From: JerryVicki1976@aol.com> To: txwise-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)> Subject: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Hello,> > I am wondering HOW to get a copy of an article from the 24 Dec 1880 Wise > County Messenger ! > ??> > There is no title to the story that I know of, but the article is about a > "Dock Pills ( Pitts) " who killed his brother in law, McGee............> > Any information on how to obtain a copy of this article would be GREATLY > appreciated........> > Thank you for your help in this matter.> > Sincerely,> Vicki Martin _JerryVicki1976@aol.com_ > (mailto:JerryVicki1976@aol.com) > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on > AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000003)> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> ________! > _________________________________________________________> Windows Liv >e?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:00:36 -0600 >From: <buddat@swbell.net> >Subject: [TXWISE] Single Tree >To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <3795560EB2634218B7E0C49E1B85CE36@BUDDY> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Shirley is absolutely correct about the Single Tree, There was a metal hook >in each end of the single tree that was hooked through the tendons on of >the hind legs of the hog as soon as it was killed. It was then lifted, >head down, by a pulley attached to a limb, barn rafter, or whatever. A >barrel of hot water was placed under the hog which was then dipped into the >water and quickly removed. then the scraping was begun, followed by the >butchering. This usually happened during the first cold snap of the year. >Crops were in, barns were full of corn, and the syrup had been made, canning >was over. Thank goodness for HEB > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:42:41 -0600 >From: "Sandra Jenkins" <randsjenkins@msn.com> >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article >To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <BAY104-DAV13D662FF3F3D8C3AA36C6DD1BD0@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > >Kathy would love to have a copy. My husband's grandmother's Crouch line came >from TN to Montague County about this time frame. Please send to >randsjenkins@msn.com. >Thanks, Sandra Chambers Jenkins > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kathy Nobles Phipps" <kathynobles@hotmail.com> >To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:18 AM >Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article > > > >Carla, if you'll look in the HAMBRIGHT file at the museum, you'll see a >document titled "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright. He wrote it in >1919, about 2 months after the deaths of his parents. It's a wonderful >history told to him by his father about why people from Tennessee migrated >to Texas in the 1880's and about what they went through during the Civil War >years earlier. He talks about Texas being a land of opportunity, free land, >and that men were being imprisoned in Tennessee for debt. No one in my >family was imprisoned for debt, but they had everything but their 400+ acres >of land stripped of everything by soldiers from the north. > >I will be happy to email a copy to anyone who might be interested in reading >it. >Kathy Nobles Phipps > >P.O. Box 1704 >Decatur, TX 76234 > > > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:24 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: >txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Earl,> I am >not sure why the migration from Tennessee to Texas in the 1880's. My >greatgrandparents migrated from Pulaski, Giles Co., Tennessess about 1886 to >Wise Co. Texas. One of my great uncles came to Texas before the others.> I >will get started on the research and see what I can find on the family and >see if it gives any reason for their migration to Texas.> It might take me a >few days so as soon as I find anything I will send you a summary of all of >it and tell what there is. I have a cousin that married a Morris so I will >try and see if she knows anything about the family. Just a chance they might >be kin.> If you don't hear from me give me a heads up. I babysit our 2 great >grandsons two days a week and that eliminates those days.> Have a wonderful >week.> Carla> ----- Original Message -----> From: Earl Morris ><earlhmomorris@hotmail.com>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 >17:09:11 -0500 (EST)> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > > Carla, my >name is Earl Morris. A good number of my Morris ancesters lived in and >aroung Wise county. My> great great grandfather, Jesse M. Morris and wife, >Elizabeth moved the family from Tennessee to Texas, probably> shortly after >1880 (they were in the 1880 ten census). Some of their children were Jesse >Whitfield Morris, David Lee> Morris, Elizabeth (Lizzie) Morris, W. W. >Morris. My grandfather preceded them to Texas and was first in Cooke > >county and married Fannie Beyette Milligan in 1882 in Wise county.> > I was >wondering is there were any newspaper articles depicting any migration from >Ten to Texas shortly after> 1880. They were in your county throughout the >80's and 90's. or books referencing them. There are or were> other unrelated >Morris families there also.> > I would be glad to pay for fee for research. >Since I live in Wi, I am in no position to research in person.> > Thank you >for any possible help. Earl Morris. E-mail: Earlhmomorris@hotmail.com> Date: >Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:01:08 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: >txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Vicki,> >Email address for the Wise County Historical Society is: >wisemuseum@embarqmail.com. Our webpage is www.wisehistory.com. We have the >newspapers from 1880 to present in one and 1893 to 1933 in another. We have >family files, family books, Wise History books, and a lot of other >resources. We do research for a fee, which helps pay for expenses and upkeep >on our building.> Thank you> Carla Womack, volunteer> Wise County Historical >Society, Inc.> P.O. Box 427> Decatur, Texas> wisemuseum@embarqmail.com> or >my address> carwom@embarqmail.com> ----- Original Message -----> From: >JerryVicki1976@aol.com> To: txwise-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 >17:12:16 -0500 (EST)> Subject: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Hello,> > I am >wondering HOW to get a copy of an article from the 24 Dec 1880 Wise > County >Messenger ??> > There is no title to the story that I know of, but the >article is about a > "Dock Pills ( Pitts) " who killed his brother in law, >McGee............> > Any information on how to obtain a copy of this article >would be GREATLY > appreciated........> > Thank you for your help in this >matter.> > Sincerely,> Vicki Martin _JerryVicki1976@aol.com_ > >(mailto:JerryVicki1976@aol.com) > **************Who's never won? 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Kathy would love to have a copy. My husband's grandmother's Crouch line came from TN to Montague County about this time frame. Please send to randsjenkins@msn.com. Thanks, Sandra Chambers Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Nobles Phipps" <kathynobles@hotmail.com> To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article Carla, if you'll look in the HAMBRIGHT file at the museum, you'll see a document titled "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright. He wrote it in 1919, about 2 months after the deaths of his parents. It's a wonderful history told to him by his father about why people from Tennessee migrated to Texas in the 1880's and about what they went through during the Civil War years earlier. He talks about Texas being a land of opportunity, free land, and that men were being imprisoned in Tennessee for debt. No one in my family was imprisoned for debt, but they had everything but their 400+ acres of land stripped of everything by soldiers from the north. I will be happy to email a copy to anyone who might be interested in reading it. Kathy Nobles Phipps P.O. Box 1704 Decatur, TX 76234 > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:24 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Earl,> I am not sure why the migration from Tennessee to Texas in the 1880's. My greatgrandparents migrated from Pulaski, Giles Co., Tennessess about 1886 to Wise Co. Texas. One of my great uncles came to Texas before the others.> I will get started on the research and see what I can find on the family and see if it gives any reason for their migration to Texas.> It might take me a few days so as soon as I find anything I will send you a summary of all of it and tell what there is. I have a cousin that married a Morris so I will try and see if she knows anything about the family. Just a chance they might be kin.> If you don't hear from me give me a heads up. I babysit our 2 great grandsons two days a week and that eliminates those days.> Have a wonderful week.> Carla> ----- Original Message -----> From: Earl Morris <earlhmomorris@hotmail.com>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:09:11 -0500 (EST)> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > > Carla, my name is Earl Morris. A good number of my Morris ancesters lived in and aroung Wise county. My> great great grandfather, Jesse M. Morris and wife, Elizabeth moved the family from Tennessee to Texas, probably> shortly after 1880 (they were in the 1880 ten census). Some of their children were Jesse Whitfield Morris, David Lee> Morris, Elizabeth (Lizzie) Morris, W. W. Morris. My grandfather preceded them to Texas and was first in Cooke > county and married Fannie Beyette Milligan in 1882 in Wise county.> > I was wondering is there were any newspaper articles depicting any migration from Ten to Texas shortly after> 1880. They were in your county throughout the 80's and 90's. or books referencing them. There are or were> other unrelated Morris families there also.> > I would be glad to pay for fee for research. Since I live in Wi, I am in no position to research in person.> > Thank you for any possible help. Earl Morris. E-mail: Earlhmomorris@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:01:08 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Vicki,> Email address for the Wise County Historical Society is: wisemuseum@embarqmail.com. Our webpage is www.wisehistory.com. We have the newspapers from 1880 to present in one and 1893 to 1933 in another. We have family files, family books, Wise History books, and a lot of other resources. We do research for a fee, which helps pay for expenses and upkeep on our building.> Thank you> Carla Womack, volunteer> Wise County Historical Society, Inc.> P.O. Box 427> Decatur, Texas> wisemuseum@embarqmail.com> or my address> carwom@embarqmail.com> ----- Original Message -----> From: JerryVicki1976@aol.com> To: txwise-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)> Subject: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Hello,> > I am wondering HOW to get a copy of an article from the 24 Dec 1880 Wise > County Messenger ??> > There is no title to the story that I know of, but the article is about a > "Dock Pills ( Pitts) " who killed his brother in law, McGee............> > Any information on how to obtain a copy of this article would be GREATLY > appreciated........> > Thank you for your help in this matter.> > Sincerely,> Vicki Martin _JerryVicki1976@aol.com_ > (mailto:JerryVicki1976@aol.com) > **************Who's never won? 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Just wanted everyone to know that Billy passed away on 08/11/08 and I, his wife Avis is trying to get the message out that no more of the past research on family history will be done. Thank all of you for the joy you gave him on his family research.   Sincerely, Avis @margaretavis@sbcglobal.net --- On Tue, 7/15/08, LaDarlaK@aol.com <LaDarlaK@aol.com> wrote: From: LaDarlaK@aol.com <LaDarlaK@aol.com> Subject: [TXWISE] Downtown Bridgeport in days past!!! To: TXWISE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:20 PM The Main Street Promotions Committee is continuing their effort to educate the public about Bridgeport’s lovely downtown. We will stop at nothing to reel people in, and nostalgia is merely the next tactic on our list. The Bridgeport Index generously lets the City run a Main Street article each week, and we’d like to use that space to share with our residents what downtown used to be and what it can be again. To do that, we need your help. We need your memories of when downtown was the place to be in Bridgeport. I’m happy to accept those memories via email, hand-written note, or phone. Essentially, we just want to capture your memories in the hope it will pique interest in downtown once again. You can reach me at _asmalley@cityofbridgeport.net_ (mailto:asmalley@cityofbridgeport.net) , 940-683-3417, or 900 Thompson Street (City Hall). Ashley Smalley City of Bridgeport Executive Assistant/Community Relations Specialist 900 Thompson Street, Bridgeport, Texas 76426 940.683.3417 Fax 940.683.3401 Cell 940.389.3019 _www.cityofbridgeport.net_ (http://www.cityofbridgeport.net/) **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, Thank you. Our Archives at the Museum are extensive. I don't think everyone know what all we do have. Thanks to LaDarla and Sue who have contributed so much on Wise County's behalf. The Archives that the Museum have Family Files and Books that individuals have been so gracious to send and add to our Archives, Two newspapers back to the 1880's to present,We have research books from other counties of Texas and states, Census records, funeral records, We have obituaries, some family files on Cd's that can be purchased, 3 Wise County History Books, and it goes on and on. We do research for individuals, however, we do have to charge a fee, which helps us with the expenses of the Museum. We do not just look for a few minutes, we search all our information to help to find other clues for you. Our hours at the Museum are 10 A.M. until 3 P.m. Monday through Saturday. We would love to have any and all to come by and visit. We have been renovating our Building and have shows all during the year. So please spread the word if anyone needs help with research who lives out of town give us a chance to see what we might be able to find for you, or if yours in town stop by and check out our Archives. Also check and see if we are having a show that month. Have wonderful talent in Wise County. Again, THANK YOU to everyone who supports the Wise County Historical Society, Inc. (which takes care of the Museum) by donations and letting us help you with your Genealogical research. God Bless and Have a wonderful week. Carla Womack, volunteer Wise County Museum Wise County Historical Society, Inc. P. O. Box 427 Decatur, Texas 76234 wisemuseum@embarqmail.com Webpage: www.wisehistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Nobles Phipps <kathynobles@hotmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:18:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article Carla, if you'll look in the HAMBRIGHT file at the museum, you'll see a document titled "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright. He wrote it in 1919, about 2 months after the deaths of his parents. It's a wonderful history told to him by his father about why people from Tennessee migrated to Texas in the 1880's and about what they went through during the Civil War years earlier. He talks about Texas being a land of opportunity, free land, and that men were being imprisoned in Tennessee for debt. No one in my family was imprisoned for debt, but they had everything but their 400+ acres of land stripped of everything by soldiers from the north. I will be happy to email a copy to anyone who might be interested in reading it. Kathy Nobles Phipps P.O. Box 1704 Decatur, TX 76234 > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:24 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Earl,> I am not sure why the migration from Tennessee to Texas in the 1880's. My greatgrandparents migrated from Pulaski, Giles Co., Tennessess about 1886 to Wise Co. Texas. One of my great uncles came to Texas before the others.> I will get started on the research and see what I can find on the family and see if it gives any reason for their migration to Texas.> It might take me a few days so as soon as I find anything I will send you a summary of all of it and tell what there is. I have a cousin that married a Morris so I will try and see if she knows anything about the family. Just a chance they might be kin.> If you don't hear from me give me a heads up. I babysit our 2 great grandsons two days a week and that eliminates those days.> Have a wonderful week.> Carla> ----- Original Message -----> From: Earl Morris <earlhmomorris@hotmail.c! om>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:09:11 -0500 (EST)> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > > Carla, my name is Earl Morris. A good number of my Morris ancesters lived in and aroung Wise county. My> great great grandfather, Jesse M. Morris and wife, Elizabeth moved the family from Tennessee to Texas, probably> shortly after 1880 (they were in the 1880 ten census). Some of their children were Jesse Whitfield Morris, David Lee> Morris, Elizabeth (Lizzie) Morris, W. W. Morris. My grandfather preceded them to Texas and was first in Cooke > county and married Fannie Beyette Milligan in 1882 in Wise county.> > I was wondering is there were any newspaper articles depicting any migration from Ten to Texas shortly after> 1880. They were in your county throughout the 80's and 90's. or books referencing them. There are or were> other unrelated Morris families there also.> > I would be glad to pay for fee for research. Since I live in Wi, I am in no position to! research in person.> > Thank you for any possible help. Earl ! Morris. E-mail: Earlhmomorris@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:01:08 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Vicki,> Email address for the Wise County Historical Society is: wisemuseum@embarqmail.com. Our webpage is www.wisehistory.com. We have the newspapers from 1880 to present in one and 1893 to 1933 in another. We have family files, family books, Wise History books, and a lot of other resources. We do research for a fee, which helps pay for expenses and upkeep on our building.> Thank you> Carla Womack, volunteer> Wise County Historical Society, Inc.> P.O. Box 427> Decatur, Texas> wisemuseum@embarqmail.com> or my address> carwom@embarqmail.com> ----- Original Message -----> From: JerryVicki1976@aol.com> To: txwise-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)> Subject: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Hello,> > I am wondering HOW to get a copy of an article from the 24 Dec 1880 Wise > County Messenger ! ??> > There is no title to the story that I know of, but the article is about a > "Dock Pills ( Pitts) " who killed his brother in law, McGee............> > Any information on how to obtain a copy of this article would be GREATLY > appreciated........> > Thank you for your help in this matter.> > Sincerely,> Vicki Martin _JerryVicki1976@aol.com_ > (mailto:JerryVicki1976@aol.com) > **************Who's never won? 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Shirley is absolutely correct about the Single Tree, There was a metal hook in each end of the single tree that was hooked through the tendons on of the hind legs of the hog as soon as it was killed. It was then lifted, head down, by a pulley attached to a limb, barn rafter, or whatever. A barrel of hot water was placed under the hog which was then dipped into the water and quickly removed. then the scraping was begun, followed by the butchering. This usually happened during the first cold snap of the year. Crops were in, barns were full of corn, and the syrup had been made, canning was over. Thank goodness for HEB

Kathy, my husband's grandfather was one of the Tennesseeans that came to Texas after the Civil War. He was born in 1858 and lived to be 99 years and 10 months old. We have yet to find his great grandfather's burial place. I have found Samuel Patton Coffman in Parker and Wise counties after they arrived in Texas. Other family stayed in Knoxville, TN area. Would love to read the article. Faye Coffman **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002)

I googled "swingle-tree" (which is the correct spelling) and found many articals. swingletree n : a crossbar that is attached to the traces of a draft horse and to the vehicle or implement that the horse is pulling [syn: whiffletree, whippletree] Also on You tubeyou can watch an explanation on what it is ---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ06Br6J0wo Linda Johnson Amazed in His presence.....humbled by his love. -----Original Message----- From: txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gil Allison Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:24 PM To: txwise@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article Ok, have to ask: What is a "swingle-tree" ? December 24, 1880 State News Jacksboro, Dec. 18-- A fatal affray occurred at a late hour last night at Lick Branch, fifteen miles northeast of Jacksboro. An altercation arose while attending a country dance, between a man styled DOCK PILLS (PITTS?) and his brother-in-law named MCGEE, and was brought to a close by McGee. and stabbed Pills in the throat inflicting a wound from which Pills soon afterward expire. McGee left the house after committing the murder, followed by a brother of the murdered man named PETE PILLS. This morning MCGEE was found dead about 100 yards away from his house, his skull broken by a blow from a swingle-tree, which was lying beside him. It is alleged that when Pete Pills left the house, in which the dance was held, he carried with him the swingle-tree which was found by the body of McGee. Tidings of the affray reached Jacksboro at 3:00 this morning. SHERIFF KING, with his shooting irons, was quickly in the saddle, facing a freezing northern en route to the scene of the murder where he arrested PETE PILLS who is now in jail here, charged with the murder of McGee. The parties concerned were prosperous farmers and leave families. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A singletree was also used to string up a hog to dress after slaughtering. Shirley in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <buddat@swbell.net> To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article > Mis-spelling..it is a singletree, which is the pulling bar attached to the > harness of a draft horse or mule. Made of wood, with reinforcing steel > used > to attach the wagon via the coupling pole. haven't heard the term in since > I > was a boy. Weldon Atwood > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I, too, would like a copy of the article. From my reading, and from things I have been able to glean from family, I think the majority of the people who came to Texas from Tennessee is just as you said: the Civil War cost them so very much. Whether they had slaves or not, and many did not, they were almost destroyed by the laws handed down to them after the war. My great-grandparents even had their fences used as firewood by the Union soldiers. Thanks. LaFon Commander In a message dated 2/10/2009 6:19:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, kathynobles@hotmail.com writes: Carla, if you'll look in the HAMBRIGHT file at the museum, you'll see a document titled "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright. He wrote it in 1919, about 2 months after the deaths of his parents. It's a wonderful history told to him by his father about why people from Tennessee migrated to Texas in the 1880's and about what they went through during the Civil War years earlier. He talks about Texas being a land of opportunity, free land, and that men were being imprisoned in Tennessee for debt. No one in my family was imprisoned for debt, but they had everything but their 400+ acres of land stripped of everything by soldiers from the north. I will be happy to email a copy to anyone who might be interested in reading it. Kathy Nobles Phipps P.O. Box 1704 Decatur, TX 76234 > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:24 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Earl,> I am not sure why the migration from Tennessee to Texas in the 1880's. My greatgrandparents migrated from Pulaski, Giles Co., Tennessess about 1886 to Wise Co. Texas. One of my great uncles came to Texas before the others.> I will get started on the research and see what I can find on the family and see if it gives any reason for their migration to Texas.> It might take me a few days so as soon as I find anything I will send you a summary of all of it and tell what there is. I have a cousin that married a Morris so I will try and see if she knows anything about the family. Just a chance they might be kin.> If you don't hear from me give me a heads up. I babysit our 2 great grandsons two days a week and that eliminates those days.> Have a wonderful week.> Carla> ----- Original Message -----> From: Earl Morris <earlhmomorris@hotmail.com>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:09:11 -0500 (EST)> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > > Carla, my name is Earl Morris. A good number of my Morris ancesters lived in and aroung Wise county. My> great great grandfather, Jesse M. Morris and wife, Elizabeth moved the family from Tennessee to Texas, probably> shortly after 1880 (they were in the 1880 ten census). Some of their children were Jesse Whitfield Morris, David Lee> Morris, Elizabeth (Lizzie) Morris, W. W. Morris. My grandfather preceded them to Texas and was first in Cooke > county and married Fannie Beyette Milligan in 1882 in Wise county.> > I was wondering is there were any newspaper articles depicting any migration from Ten to Texas shortly after> 1880. They were in your county throughout the 80's and 90's. or books referencing them. There are or were> other unrelated Morris families there also.> > I would be glad to pay for fee for research. Since I live in Wi, I am in no position to research in person.> > Thank you for any possible help. Earl Morris. E-mail: Earlhmomorris@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:01:08 -0500> From: carwom@embarqmail.com> To: txwise@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1880 news article> > Vicki,> Email address for the Wise County Historical Society is: wisemuseum@embarqmail.com. Our webpage is www.wisehistory.com. We have the newspapers from 1880 to present in one and 1893 to 1933 in another. We have family files, family books, Wise History books, and a lot of other resources. We do research for a fee, which helps pay for expenses and upkeep on our building.> Thank you> Carla Womack, volunteer> Wise County Historical Society, Inc.> P.O. 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Kathy (kathynobles@hotmail.com), Is the document "In Memoriam," by Hiram Rice Hambright" one that you could post in this forum? Then it would be available to all of us and to list members in the future as part of the archives!  --  Martha  Genealogy - So many ancestors...so little time!