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The listing for the 1880 Census Texas, Wise County, Precinct 3, District 127, Page 27 is: 17 - George, Thomas P. - White - Male - 30 - Self - Married - TN - NC - TN 18 - George, Martha A. - White - Female - 27 - Wife - Married - TN - TN - TN 19 - George, Mary O. - White - Female - 2M - Daughter - Single - TX -TN - TN 20 - Lloyd, John W - White - Male - 31 - Boarder - Single - MO - MO -----Original Message----- From: txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txwise-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David George Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:51 AM To: txwise@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Broken Links can anyone read 1880 census and tell me what it says. on section 127 p. 28 I think theie is a Thomas George with wife and children, ages? and etc.My g-grandfather Jesse B. George is buried at Crafton and he had a brother named Thomas O. but nothing else is know until I saw this. Thanks David George ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Welcome back! Don't rush getting back into the swing of things - we want you around for a long time. Arnette Power Scheeler ----- Original Message ----- From: "La Darla Keith" <ladarlak@aol.com> To: <TXWISE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:50 AM Subject: [TXWISE] LA DARLA HOME AT LAST! > What a wonderful job all you guys did during my hospital? timeout with > heart and pneumonia. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks tons.? Back up to full speed soon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i hope.? LA DARLA > > > > > > > > > > > i > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
What a wonderful job all you guys did during my hospital? timeout with heart and pneumonia. Thanks tons.? Back up to full speed soon, i hope.? LA DARLA i
LaDarla-- It is sooo good to hear that you are doing better!!! Prayers do work!! Welcome back. Jimmy Rust Jimmy Rust 6104 Yosemite Dr. Fort Worth, Texas 76112 817-451-7267 musickj@sbcglobal.net --- On Thu, 9/17/09, La Darla Keith <ladarlak@aol.com> wrote: From: La Darla Keith <ladarlak@aol.com> Subject: [TXWISE] LA DARLA HOME AT LAST! To: TXWISE@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:50 AM What a wonderful job all you guys did during my hospital? timeout with heart and pneumonia. Thanks tons.? Back up to full speed soon, i hope.? LA DARLA i ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It looks like Thomas P. George to me. Julie In a message dated 9/16/2009 9:51:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, cdgeorge@wtrt.net writes: can anyone read 1880 census and tell me what it says. on section 127 p. 28 I think theie is a Thomas George with wife and children, ages? and etc.My g-grandfather Jesse B. George is buried at Crafton and he had a brother named Thomas O. but nothing else is know until I saw this. Thanks David George ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
can anyone read 1880 census and tell me what it says. on section 127 p. 28 I think theie is a Thomas George with wife and children, ages? and etc.My g-grandfather Jesse B. George is buried at Crafton and he had a brother named Thomas O. but nothing else is know until I saw this. Thanks David George
I concur. Thomas P. George, 30 years old, born in Tennessee. Wife Martha A., 27 years old, born in Tennessee. Daughter Mary C. (or O.), 2 months old, born in Texas. Good luck, Tad > It looks like Thomas P. George to me. Julie > > > In a message dated 9/16/2009 9:51:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > cdgeorge@wtrt.net writes: > > can anyone read 1880 census and tell me what it says. on section 127 p. > 28 > I > think theie is a Thomas George with wife and children, ages? and etc.My > g-grandfather Jesse B. George is buried at Crafton and he had a brother > named Thomas O. but nothing else is know until I saw this. > > Thanks > David George > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Royce Raven has finished the index of names for the 1959 'Bridgeport Index' newspaper pages online. That index, with active links, is on page http://www.wisecountytexas.info/bridgeportindex/1959-names.htm Sue
I found a birth certificate with a W.C. Helm, so I guess that he is also 'Helm', not 'Helen'. On the birth certificate it has his wife as Goldie B. Ponder not Palmer. Boy! There's so many errors in these old documents. People were very careless when they wrote them. You have to get as many sources of information as you can, and then take the best guess at some of the names ! I also changed 'Helen' to 'Helm' on the bride's page http://www.wisecountytexas.info/misc%20genealogy/old_marr_b_h-q.htm Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tackel" <sue@wisecountytexas.info> To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Marriage License > Sorry about that misspelling of 'Helm' as 'Helen'. Some of that old > handwriting was hard to read, plus we make some typos. > I got it changed on page > http://www.wisecountytexas.info/misc%20genealogy/old_marr_g_h-q.htm > Looks like there may be another 'Helen' that should be 'Helm', that's > W.C. Helen. Do you know who that is? > Sue > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Nobles Phipps" <kathynobles@hotmail.com> > To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:58 PM > Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Marriage License > > > > Referencing the Wise County Marriages shown on the Wise County, TX web > site. Marriages 1881-1945 Brides H-Q and Grooms H-Q show my great > grandparents. However my great grandfather's name is incorrect. It should > not be Helen, but HELM, W.A. to Hambright, Miss Kate on 20 Oct 1897. My > family name is Helm, not Helen. > > > > THANKS! > > Kathy Nobles Phipps > P.O. Box 1704 > > > Decatur, TX 76234 > > > > > > >> From: pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net >> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:52:44 -0500 >> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Marriage License >> >> Mary, >> I transcribed the marriage data from the LDS microfilm because the >> certificates do >> not list any relatives. You can order the certificates from the Wise >> County Clerk. >> I don't know the new price as it has changed. Don't forget to tell >> the clerk both the book >> and page number. Sometimes they claim that the marriage doesn't >> exist because >> their indices are not (I believe) as thorough and complete as mine >> is. My biggest problem >> that present a problem to you the user is that the names were very >> difficult to read at times >> and I may have misinterpreted the brides and grooms names. They are >> listed twice >> on the certificate so that helped some. >> >> Foster, J. B. Watson, Miss M. A. Sept 4, 1898 Book 4 page 32 >> >> >> David Pitts >> Houston TX >> >> Among records found at the Office of the County Clerk: >> Deeds from 1852-1982 >> Real property on computer search 1983- >> >> Birth Records from-- 1864--$ for each certified copy of a document >> >> Marriage Records from 1881--$ for each certified copy of a document >> >> Death Records from 1902--$ for each certified copy of a document >> >> These record prices are subject to change without notice.... >> >> Address mail to: >> >> Sherry Parker, County Clerk >> Wise County >> 200 N. Trinity >> Decatur, TX 76234 >> Telephone: >> (940)627-3351 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mary McCue wrote: >> >> > I found a marriage listed in Wise Co for my great grandparents & would >> > like to know how I can get a copy of the license. Do I have to >> > request >> > it from the county or can it be obtained through your archives? >> > >> > >> > >> > The info is as follows: Groom - J.B. Foster >> > Bride - Miss M.A. Watson >> > >> > Date: Sept 4, 1898 >> > Book 4 >> > >> > >> > >> > Please send the answer to jmccue1@kc.rr.com or mmccue@merrlin.com.. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks you >> > >> > >> > >> > Mary McCue >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on > Facebook. > http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >
Sorry about that misspelling of 'Helm' as 'Helen'. Some of that old handwriting was hard to read, plus we make some typos. I got it changed on page http://www.wisecountytexas.info/misc%20genealogy/old_marr_g_h-q.htm Looks like there may be another 'Helen' that should be 'Helm', that's W.C. Helen. Do you know who that is? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Nobles Phipps" <kathynobles@hotmail.com> To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Marriage License Referencing the Wise County Marriages shown on the Wise County, TX web site. Marriages 1881-1945 Brides H-Q and Grooms H-Q show my great grandparents. However my great grandfather's name is incorrect. It should not be Helen, but HELM, W.A. to Hambright, Miss Kate on 20 Oct 1897. My family name is Helm, not Helen. THANKS! Kathy Nobles Phipps P.O. Box 1704 Decatur, TX 76234 > From: pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:52:44 -0500 > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Marriage License > > Mary, > I transcribed the marriage data from the LDS microfilm because the > certificates do > not list any relatives. You can order the certificates from the Wise > County Clerk. > I don't know the new price as it has changed. Don't forget to tell > the clerk both the book > and page number. Sometimes they claim that the marriage doesn't > exist because > their indices are not (I believe) as thorough and complete as mine > is. My biggest problem > that present a problem to you the user is that the names were very > difficult to read at times > and I may have misinterpreted the brides and grooms names. They are > listed twice > on the certificate so that helped some. > > Foster, J. B. Watson, Miss M. A. Sept 4, 1898 Book 4 page 32 > > > David Pitts > Houston TX > > Among records found at the Office of the County Clerk: > Deeds from 1852-1982 > Real property on computer search 1983- > > Birth Records from-- 1864--$ for each certified copy of a document > > Marriage Records from 1881--$ for each certified copy of a document > > Death Records from 1902--$ for each certified copy of a document > > These record prices are subject to change without notice.... > > Address mail to: > > Sherry Parker, County Clerk > Wise County > 200 N. Trinity > Decatur, TX 76234 > Telephone: > (940)627-3351 > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mary McCue wrote: > > > I found a marriage listed in Wise Co for my great grandparents & would > > like to know how I can get a copy of the license. Do I have to > > request > > it from the county or can it be obtained through your archives? > > > > > > > > The info is as follows: Groom - J.B. Foster > > Bride - Miss M.A. Watson > > > > Date: Sept 4, 1898 > > Book 4 > > > > > > > > Please send the answer to jmccue1@kc.rr.com or mmccue@merrlin.com.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you > > > > > > > > Mary McCue > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Referencing the Wise County Marriages shown on the Wise County, TX web site. Marriages 1881-1945 Brides H-Q and Grooms H-Q show my great grandparents. However my great grandfather's name is incorrect. It should not be Helen, but HELM, W.A. to Hambright, Miss Kate on 20 Oct 1897. My family name is Helm, not Helen. THANKS! Kathy Nobles Phipps P.O. Box 1704 Decatur, TX 76234 > From: pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:52:44 -0500 > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Marriage License > > Mary, > I transcribed the marriage data from the LDS microfilm because the > certificates do > not list any relatives. You can order the certificates from the Wise > County Clerk. > I don't know the new price as it has changed. Don't forget to tell > the clerk both the book > and page number. Sometimes they claim that the marriage doesn't > exist because > their indices are not (I believe) as thorough and complete as mine > is. My biggest problem > that present a problem to you the user is that the names were very > difficult to read at times > and I may have misinterpreted the brides and grooms names. They are > listed twice > on the certificate so that helped some. > > Foster, J. B. Watson, Miss M. A. Sept 4, 1898 Book 4 page 32 > > > David Pitts > Houston TX > > Among records found at the Office of the County Clerk: > Deeds from 1852-1982 > Real property on computer search 1983- > > Birth Records from-- 1864--$ for each certified copy of a document > > Marriage Records from 1881--$ for each certified copy of a document > > Death Records from 1902--$ for each certified copy of a document > > These record prices are subject to change without notice.... > > Address mail to: > > Sherry Parker, County Clerk > Wise County > 200 N. Trinity > Decatur, TX 76234 > Telephone: > (940)627-3351 > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mary McCue wrote: > > > I found a marriage listed in Wise Co for my great grandparents & would > > like to know how I can get a copy of the license. Do I have to > > request > > it from the county or can it be obtained through your archives? > > > > > > > > The info is as follows: Groom - J.B. Foster > > Bride - Miss M.A. Watson > > > > Date: Sept 4, 1898 > > Book 4 > > > > > > > > Please send the answer to jmccue1@kc.rr.com or mmccue@merrlin.com.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you > > > > > > > > Mary McCue > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
I got my TiVo set to record it this time. Title is "The Human Family Tree" 8PM on Sept 1st. LaDarla was much better yesterday when I saw her. She is still in ICU, but she was sitting up in a chair. She can stand and walk a little. She has her computer, but her mailbox was full and she had to delete everything. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] National Geographic Special on DNA > Wendy, > I just checked my satellite menu and your information is correct. > This will air again > tomorrow (Sept 1) on the National Geographic Channel at 8 pm CDT. > David Pitts > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Wendy C wrote: > >> http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-human-family- >> tree-3706/Overview#tab-Videos/07001_00 >> >> if I read this right.. it is being re broadcast. And these type >> programs often wind up as videos on the site? >> >> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, David E. Pitts <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >> From: David E. Pitts <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> >> Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic Special on DNA >> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:23 AM >> >> Brenda, >> It was difficult to follow the details of each case study. I'll have >> to watch it again to better understand each person that they studied >> in detail. This was the result of a 4 year study that Spencer Wells >> and National Geographic have done, traveling the world and getting >> samples from 50,000 indigenous people around the world. >> The total number of DNA kits used in study is 296,000. The study >> will conclude in 2010. Some >> of the DNA used in the study comes from people like myself who had >> their DNA >> studied for personal (genealogical) purposes and shared their data >> with National Geographic. >> These personal results came from cheek swabs, but their field work >> with indigenous populations involved >> blood draws because the blood is more robust and will withstand the >> rigors of the field >> better than cheek swabs. They were in a lot of very remote primitive >> conditions. >> >> When I heard Spencer Wells speak last March I asked him how they knew >> they were sampling >> with an indigenous group of people. He said they base that >> distinction on: 1) language, 2) oral history. >> >> For this special production Spencer Wells went to Queens New York and >> took cheek swabs from about 100 very diverse people, then analyzed >> their DNA (SNP's) to determine how their ancestors migrated. A black >> guy turned out to have y-dna (from his black father) that was >> European, whereas his mitochrondrial DNA (from his black mother) was >> African. The expanation was that one of his white European male >> ancestors many generations married a black lady. This guy was a male >> model in New York and looked very black. Needless to >> say he was surprised. An Arab from Turkey turned out to be Jewish on >> his father's side. >> >> They analyzed what they thought was an indigenous tribe in Chad in >> the Sahara and >> found that they were from Iran (I think, but it could have been >> another middle east country). >> >> They did this with several of the cases and then had everybody stand >> in central park >> clustered as to their points where their ancestors migrated to. A >> helicopter view showed >> these clusters of people and then using image processing they >> superimposed a map >> of the world. Finally they had each group at a time move backward >> along their migration >> route, so that eventually everybody ended up in Africa. Africa has >> the greatest diversity >> of DNA of any place in the world and this is the evidence that this >> was the cradle of civilization >> about 60,000 years ago. The bottom line was that 99.9% of all our >> DNA is exactly the >> same for all of us and we are all kin. There is no such thing as >> race as we were all black >> when we go back to our Scientific Adam and Eve in Africa. >> >> I would have like for it to have concentrated on fewer cases and gone >> into more >> details about the SNP markers and the DNA aspects, but the average >> person >> would have been lost if they had done that. >> >> David Pitts >> >> On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Brenda Minor wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I'm afraid I missed the program. Can you give us some of the >>> highlights? >>> >>> Brenda Minor >>> Tucson, AZ >>> >>> (at 12:30 am) >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise- >>> request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 >>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:02 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology >>> using DNA (David E. Pitts) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0500 >>> From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> >>> Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic special tonight on genetic >>> anthropology using DNA >>> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <AD3FC458-8BDA-4A08-97A7-A1A09B5EED46@sbcglobal.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>> >>> This is a 2 hour special on the National Geographic Channel at 8 CDT >>> (2 hours). >>> I have heard Spencer Wells talk twice about the Genographic Project >>> and if he is involved it will be spectacular. >>> David Pitts >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To contact the TXWISE list administrator, send an email to >>> TXWISE-admin@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> To post a message to the TXWISE mailing list, send an email to >>> TXWISE@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >>> request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 >>> ************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Robert Glasgow was a well known organ player & teacher.With a world wide following .people came from everywhere to study with him.the reason I am sending this there is a web it has pics.it is going to expire soon & I thought there might be others interested. . to Robert Glasgow Legacy.com His father was Floyd Glasgow & his grandfather was James W. Glasgow.They lived in Chico & Bridgeport.James W. Glasgow 's second wife was Nora Williams .She worked for Dr. Braselton .James & Nora were my grandparents.Thanks for all the good work you all do.How is LaDarla ? I pray for her. Thanks Quenell Kincaid mquenell@suddenlink.net
Wendy, I just checked my satellite menu and your information is correct. This will air again tomorrow (Sept 1) on the National Geographic Channel at 8 pm CDT. David Pitts On Aug 31, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Wendy C wrote: > http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-human-family- > tree-3706/Overview#tab-Videos/07001_00 > > if I read this right.. it is being re broadcast. And these type > programs often wind up as videos on the site? > > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, David E. Pitts <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > From: David E. Pitts <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic Special on DNA > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:23 AM > > Brenda, > It was difficult to follow the details of each case study. I'll have > to watch it again to better understand each person that they studied > in detail. This was the result of a 4 year study that Spencer Wells > and National Geographic have done, traveling the world and getting > samples from 50,000 indigenous people around the world. > The total number of DNA kits used in study is 296,000. The study > will conclude in 2010. Some > of the DNA used in the study comes from people like myself who had > their DNA > studied for personal (genealogical) purposes and shared their data > with National Geographic. > These personal results came from cheek swabs, but their field work > with indigenous populations involved > blood draws because the blood is more robust and will withstand the > rigors of the field > better than cheek swabs. They were in a lot of very remote primitive > conditions. > > When I heard Spencer Wells speak last March I asked him how they knew > they were sampling > with an indigenous group of people. He said they base that > distinction on: 1) language, 2) oral history. > > For this special production Spencer Wells went to Queens New York and > took cheek swabs from about 100 very diverse people, then analyzed > their DNA (SNP's) to determine how their ancestors migrated. A black > guy turned out to have y-dna (from his black father) that was > European, whereas his mitochrondrial DNA (from his black mother) was > African. The expanation was that one of his white European male > ancestors many generations married a black lady. This guy was a male > model in New York and looked very black. Needless to > say he was surprised. An Arab from Turkey turned out to be Jewish on > his father's side. > > They analyzed what they thought was an indigenous tribe in Chad in > the Sahara and > found that they were from Iran (I think, but it could have been > another middle east country). > > They did this with several of the cases and then had everybody stand > in central park > clustered as to their points where their ancestors migrated to. A > helicopter view showed > these clusters of people and then using image processing they > superimposed a map > of the world. Finally they had each group at a time move backward > along their migration > route, so that eventually everybody ended up in Africa. Africa has > the greatest diversity > of DNA of any place in the world and this is the evidence that this > was the cradle of civilization > about 60,000 years ago. The bottom line was that 99.9% of all our > DNA is exactly the > same for all of us and we are all kin. There is no such thing as > race as we were all black > when we go back to our Scientific Adam and Eve in Africa. > > I would have like for it to have concentrated on fewer cases and gone > into more > details about the SNP markers and the DNA aspects, but the average > person > would have been lost if they had done that. > > David Pitts > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Brenda Minor wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> I'm afraid I missed the program. Can you give us some of the >> highlights? >> >> Brenda Minor >> Tucson, AZ >> >> (at 12:30 am) >> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise- >> request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 >> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:02 AM >> >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology >> using DNA (David E. Pitts) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0500 >> From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> >> Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic special tonight on genetic >> anthropology using DNA >> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <AD3FC458-8BDA-4A08-97A7-A1A09B5EED46@sbcglobal.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> This is a 2 hour special on the National Geographic Channel at 8 CDT >> (2 hours). >> I have heard Spencer Wells talk twice about the Genographic Project >> and if he is involved it will be spectacular. >> David Pitts >> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the TXWISE list administrator, send an email to >> TXWISE-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the TXWISE mailing list, send an email to >> TXWISE@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 >> ************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Here is a link to the DVD. http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/product/241/5121/128.html
Thank You David for your information- I just have regular dish and tried to get it-- but didn't have NG on the list Really thank you- Dorothy-- Decatur, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> To: <txwise@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic Special on DNA > Brenda, > It was difficult to follow the details of each case study. I'll have > to watch it again to better understand each person that they studied > in detail. This was the result of a 4 year study that Spencer Wells > and National Geographic have done, traveling the world and getting > samples from 50,000 indigenous people around the world. > The total number of DNA kits used in study is 296,000. The study > will conclude in 2010. Some > of the DNA used in the study comes from people like myself who had > their DNA > studied for personal (genealogical) purposes and shared their data > with National Geographic. > These personal results came from cheek swabs, but their field work > with indigenous populations involved > blood draws because the blood is more robust and will withstand the > rigors of the field > better than cheek swabs. They were in a lot of very remote primitive > conditions. > > When I heard Spencer Wells speak last March I asked him how they knew > they were sampling > with an indigenous group of people. He said they base that > distinction on: 1) language, 2) oral history. > > For this special production Spencer Wells went to Queens New York and > took cheek swabs from about 100 very diverse people, then analyzed > their DNA (SNP's) to determine how their ancestors migrated. A black > guy turned out to have y-dna (from his black father) that was > European, whereas his mitochrondrial DNA (from his black mother) was > African. The expanation was that one of his white European male > ancestors many generations married a black lady. This guy was a male > model in New York and looked very black. Needless to > say he was surprised. An Arab from Turkey turned out to be Jewish on > his father's side. > > They analyzed what they thought was an indigenous tribe in Chad in > the Sahara and > found that they were from Iran (I think, but it could have been > another middle east country). > > They did this with several of the cases and then had everybody stand > in central park > clustered as to their points where their ancestors migrated to. A > helicopter view showed > these clusters of people and then using image processing they > superimposed a map > of the world. Finally they had each group at a time move backward > along their migration > route, so that eventually everybody ended up in Africa. Africa has > the greatest diversity > of DNA of any place in the world and this is the evidence that this > was the cradle of civilization > about 60,000 years ago. The bottom line was that 99.9% of all our > DNA is exactly the > same for all of us and we are all kin. There is no such thing as > race as we were all black > when we go back to our Scientific Adam and Eve in Africa. > > I would have like for it to have concentrated on fewer cases and gone > into more > details about the SNP markers and the DNA aspects, but the average > person > would have been lost if they had done that. > > David Pitts > > On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Brenda Minor wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> I'm afraid I missed the program. Can you give us some of the >> highlights? >> >> Brenda Minor >> Tucson, AZ >> >> (at 12:30 am) >> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise- >> request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 >> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:02 AM >> >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology >> using DNA (David E. Pitts) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0500 >> From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> >> Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic special tonight on genetic >> anthropology using DNA >> To: txwise@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <AD3FC458-8BDA-4A08-97A7-A1A09B5EED46@sbcglobal.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> This is a 2 hour special on the National Geographic Channel at 8 CDT >> (2 hours). >> I have heard Spencer Wells talk twice about the Genographic Project >> and if he is involved it will be spectacular. >> David Pitts >> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the TXWISE list administrator, send an email to >> TXWISE-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the TXWISE mailing list, send an email to >> TXWISE@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 >> ************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Brenda, It was difficult to follow the details of each case study. I'll have to watch it again to better understand each person that they studied in detail. This was the result of a 4 year study that Spencer Wells and National Geographic have done, traveling the world and getting samples from 50,000 indigenous people around the world. The total number of DNA kits used in study is 296,000. The study will conclude in 2010. Some of the DNA used in the study comes from people like myself who had their DNA studied for personal (genealogical) purposes and shared their data with National Geographic. These personal results came from cheek swabs, but their field work with indigenous populations involved blood draws because the blood is more robust and will withstand the rigors of the field better than cheek swabs. They were in a lot of very remote primitive conditions. When I heard Spencer Wells speak last March I asked him how they knew they were sampling with an indigenous group of people. He said they base that distinction on: 1) language, 2) oral history. For this special production Spencer Wells went to Queens New York and took cheek swabs from about 100 very diverse people, then analyzed their DNA (SNP's) to determine how their ancestors migrated. A black guy turned out to have y-dna (from his black father) that was European, whereas his mitochrondrial DNA (from his black mother) was African. The expanation was that one of his white European male ancestors many generations married a black lady. This guy was a male model in New York and looked very black. Needless to say he was surprised. An Arab from Turkey turned out to be Jewish on his father's side. They analyzed what they thought was an indigenous tribe in Chad in the Sahara and found that they were from Iran (I think, but it could have been another middle east country). They did this with several of the cases and then had everybody stand in central park clustered as to their points where their ancestors migrated to. A helicopter view showed these clusters of people and then using image processing they superimposed a map of the world. Finally they had each group at a time move backward along their migration route, so that eventually everybody ended up in Africa. Africa has the greatest diversity of DNA of any place in the world and this is the evidence that this was the cradle of civilization about 60,000 years ago. The bottom line was that 99.9% of all our DNA is exactly the same for all of us and we are all kin. There is no such thing as race as we were all black when we go back to our Scientific Adam and Eve in Africa. I would have like for it to have concentrated on fewer cases and gone into more details about the SNP markers and the DNA aspects, but the average person would have been lost if they had done that. David Pitts On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Brenda Minor wrote: > Hi David, > > I'm afraid I missed the program. Can you give us some of the > highlights? > > Brenda Minor > Tucson, AZ > > (at 12:30 am) > > > > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise- > request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > From: txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:02 AM > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology > using DNA (David E. Pitts) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0500 > From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic special tonight on genetic > anthropology using DNA > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <AD3FC458-8BDA-4A08-97A7-A1A09B5EED46@sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > This is a 2 hour special on the National Geographic Channel at 8 CDT > (2 hours). > I have heard Spencer Wells talk twice about the Genographic Project > and if he is involved it will be spectacular. > David Pitts > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TXWISE list administrator, send an email to > TXWISE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TXWISE mailing list, send an email to > TXWISE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 > ************************************** > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-human-family-tree-3706/Overview#tab-Videos/07001_00 if I read this right.. it is being re broadcast. And these type programs often wind up as videos on the site? --- On Mon, 8/31/09, David E. Pitts <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: David E. Pitts <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic Special on DNA To: txwise@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 6:23 AM Brenda, It was difficult to follow the details of each case study. I'll have to watch it again to better understand each person that they studied in detail. This was the result of a 4 year study that Spencer Wells and National Geographic have done, traveling the world and getting samples from 50,000 indigenous people around the world. The total number of DNA kits used in study is 296,000. The study will conclude in 2010. Some of the DNA used in the study comes from people like myself who had their DNA studied for personal (genealogical) purposes and shared their data with National Geographic. These personal results came from cheek swabs, but their field work with indigenous populations involved blood draws because the blood is more robust and will withstand the rigors of the field better than cheek swabs. They were in a lot of very remote primitive conditions. When I heard Spencer Wells speak last March I asked him how they knew they were sampling with an indigenous group of people. He said they base that distinction on: 1) language, 2) oral history. For this special production Spencer Wells went to Queens New York and took cheek swabs from about 100 very diverse people, then analyzed their DNA (SNP's) to determine how their ancestors migrated. A black guy turned out to have y-dna (from his black father) that was European, whereas his mitochrondrial DNA (from his black mother) was African. The expanation was that one of his white European male ancestors many generations married a black lady. This guy was a male model in New York and looked very black. Needless to say he was surprised. An Arab from Turkey turned out to be Jewish on his father's side. They analyzed what they thought was an indigenous tribe in Chad in the Sahara and found that they were from Iran (I think, but it could have been another middle east country). They did this with several of the cases and then had everybody stand in central park clustered as to their points where their ancestors migrated to. A helicopter view showed these clusters of people and then using image processing they superimposed a map of the world. Finally they had each group at a time move backward along their migration route, so that eventually everybody ended up in Africa. Africa has the greatest diversity of DNA of any place in the world and this is the evidence that this was the cradle of civilization about 60,000 years ago. The bottom line was that 99.9% of all our DNA is exactly the same for all of us and we are all kin. There is no such thing as race as we were all black when we go back to our Scientific Adam and Eve in Africa. I would have like for it to have concentrated on fewer cases and gone into more details about the SNP markers and the DNA aspects, but the average person would have been lost if they had done that. David Pitts On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Brenda Minor wrote: > Hi David, > > I'm afraid I missed the program. Can you give us some of the > highlights? > > Brenda Minor > Tucson, AZ > > (at 12:30 am) > > > > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise- > request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > From: txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:02 AM > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology > using DNA (David E. Pitts) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0500 > From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic special tonight on genetic > anthropology using DNA > To: txwise@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <AD3FC458-8BDA-4A08-97A7-A1A09B5EED46@sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > This is a 2 hour special on the National Geographic Channel at 8 CDT > (2 hours). > I have heard Spencer Wells talk twice about the Genographic Project > and if he is involved it will be spectacular. > David Pitts > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TXWISE list administrator, send an email to > TXWISE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TXWISE mailing list, send an email to > TXWISE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 > ************************************** > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi David, I'm afraid I missed the program. Can you give us some of the highlights? Brenda Minor Tucson, AZ (at 12:30 am) --- On Mon, 8/31/09, txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: txwise-request@rootsweb.com <txwise-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 To: txwise@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:02 AM Today's Topics: 1. National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology using DNA (David E. Pitts) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0500 From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [TXWISE] National Geographic special tonight on genetic anthropology using DNA To: txwise@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AD3FC458-8BDA-4A08-97A7-A1A09B5EED46@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed This is a 2 hour special on the National Geographic Channel at 8 CDT (2 hours). I have heard Spencer Wells talk twice about the Genographic Project and if he is involved it will be spectacular. David Pitts > ------------------------------ To contact the TXWISE list administrator, send an email to TXWISE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TXWISE mailing list, send an email to TXWISE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXWISE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of TXWISE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125 **************************************