I don't know either. I know Joseph Martin Minor was born around 1870-73. He was younger than Willie Enerie Parrish Minor, his wife. He committed suicide near Olney at his mother's home. I beieve that happened around 1911. His mother must have been widowed. When my father was little (he was born in 1922) she was still alive and so was her second husband. My great-grandmother's last name was Junker.(second marriage name) I know Mr. Junker was German. I know JM Minor had siblings, but I don't know their names. All the relatives I know of from that side were my grandfather's maternal ones. (The Parrish family) The "Martin" makes me wonder if they are not related. Where is Rock Hollow Cemetary? ----- Original Message ----- From: <LAFON2RED@aol.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Minor > I don't know if this is any relation but Martin T. Minor is buried in Bell > county in the Rock Hollow cemetery. He was born May 22, 1819 and died Sept.13, > 1889. He was married to (probably 2nd) Matilda Waldin (Walden?) Millsap on > August 22, 1849. She is also buried in Rock Hollow Cemetery. > >

Could you look for Joseph Martin Minor and Willie Enerie Parrish. They were married and had four boys; Charles S. 8-30-98, Albert in 1899 04 1900 and Fred around 1905. There was a fourth son, Walter who died before 1910. My Wests were in Tarrant County in the 1860s. They were not on the 1850 census.of Wise County. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Pitts" <pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] genealogy > Judy, > There is a birth records book which covers some of the births from 1864 > to 1902. If you will give me the names I'll see if they > are listed in the book. > Dave Pitts > Houston Texas > > On Sunday, August 22, 2004, at 03:25 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > > > jesperry@qwest.net > >

Hello Carla: I am so sorry to ready about the breakin at the Museum. It just tears me out of the frame to read about it. We have a house next to us, originally belonged to our daughter--it was empty, waiting on renovations--so what happens? Some vandals broke into it one weekend, and destroyed a lot of things in it--breaking windows out, tearing off doors, pouring paint on the carpet, breaking glass out of the pellet fireplace door, and the kitchen oven door--totaling about $25 to $30 thousand dollars--the sheriff is investigating, but no one has been caught as yet--and guess what? Our insurance doesn't cover it--since it had been empty over 60 days and since it was vandalized-can you imagine that? My husband says that if we remodel it now--and rent it out--we would never recover the cost of it--in our lifetime since we are senior citizens!!! Discouraging, isn't? I can imagine that it is even more disheartening to you and yours--it is to me, and I think the people who did that deserves whatever punishment they get-- All our thoughts and prayers are for your encouragement and let us hear about the work going on it. Bye for now, Ruth Cole | Everyone, | We have gotten so many nice e-mails in concern about the break in at the | Museum. | There have been several asking for an address to send donations. If you | would like to send a donations it may be sent to the following address: | Wise County Historical Society, Inc. | P.O. Box 427 | Decatur, Texas 76234 | | And again we would like to say THANK YOU. | | Carla Womack, President | Wise County Historical Society, Inc. | P.O. Box 427 | Decatur, Texas 76234 | | | | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> | To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:32 PM | Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Museum Break In | | | > One more time, please, give us a snail mail address so that those who can | > afford a few dollars donation to help replace the damaged computer | equipment | > will know exactly where to send it. | > | > I had the pleasure of visiting the 'hill' in 1995. My mother and I spent | a | > few nights with her cousin in Bowie, and I ran down and did a bit of | > research. I purchased a couple books while there. | > | > My heartfelt sorrow for the damage others did. | > | > ear | > | |

My last visit to the museum was in June. I just returned from Ft Worth this past sunday and had wanted to visit the museum, but ran out of time. My mother, her sister and three brothers (Ira Stepp Family) graduated from there and years later my brother, sister and I played around there before it became a museum. I am glad my Uncle Marshall got to visit and spend time there two years ago. I feel like my own house was vandalized. I have and want to contribute to the restoration of the museum. Sincerely, Betty

I was just at the museum this past June. It was so interesting to see what you all have done with the old building. My family, the Hanner family (all 10 of them) were all born and raised there in the Decatur area. My parents were married there in the court house in 1924. The court house and the museum buildings are so unique to Decatur. It's such a shame to have to replace the things that you all had there. Some of them of course can't be replaced. My personal home has been burglarized twice so I can sympathize with your feelings of loss. Joyce Crawford

Everyone, We have gotten so many nice e-mails in concern about the break in at the Museum. There have been several asking for an address to send donations. If you would like to send a donations it may be sent to the following address: Wise County Historical Society, Inc. P.O. Box 427 Decatur, Texas 76234 And again we would like to say THANK YOU. Carla Womack, President Wise County Historical Society, Inc. P.O. Box 427 Decatur, Texas 76234 ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Museum Break In > One more time, please, give us a snail mail address so that those who can > afford a few dollars donation to help replace the damaged computer equipment > will know exactly where to send it. > > I had the pleasure of visiting the 'hill' in 1995. My mother and I spent a > few nights with her cousin in Bowie, and I ran down and did a bit of > research. I purchased a couple books while there. > > My heartfelt sorrow for the damage others did. > > ear >

Janet We had just gotten the computer back after being in the shop for two weeks because of a virus on Friday. Had not back up before that for fear I would only recontaminate the computer. Had not had a chance to back what we had up. I think we have most of it on a CD. Luckily we do not put a lot of data on it. We had quite a few e-mails that we were answering but had a copy of the letters on paper. Donations are always greatly appreciated as we work strickly from donations and what we sell, and our Archives where we do research for individuals. We are checking on the insurance. We have a problem getting insurance because of being a Museum in a building at was built in 1892. If we read the policy right we may have a $2500.00 deductible. We appreciate everyones concern. Thank You Carla Womack, President Wise County Historical Society, Inc. P.O. Box 427 Decatur, Texas 76234 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jhubbard" <jhubbard@mcn.org> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: RE: [TXWISE-L] Note from Carla > Was the computer data backed up and also stored somewhere else? > > I assume it would be good to send some donations to replace equipment. > Any insurance available to help pay for the loss? > > Janet > > -----Original Message----- > From: LaDarlaK@aol.com [mailto:LaDarlaK@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:08 PM > To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TXWISE-L] Note from Carla > > > Group, > I would like to thank everyone for their concerns and kind words. > The visitors we had last night were so kind when they were there. > Opened several doors without keys, windows that wouldn't open, most > > horrible of all they broke into The Lost Battalion Room. > Words can't express how we feel tonight to have seen the > destruction > that someone did. > They even took a liter bottle drink and poured on the computer, > printer, > and monitor we had in the office. Needless to say not sure if they can > be > fixed. > Right now only God knows who did it and this they will have to live > with. > God Bless everyone for the kind words, concern and offer of support. > Thank You > Carla Womack, President > Wise County Historical Society, Inc. > Rosalie Gregg > Exective Director of Museum and Historical Commision > > > >

Group, I would like to thank everyone for their concerns and kind words. The visitors we had last night were so kind when they were there. Opened several doors without keys, windows that wouldn't open, most horrible of all they broke into The Lost Battalion Room. Words can't express how we feel tonight to have seen the destruction that someone did. They even took a liter bottle drink and poured on the computer, printer, and monitor we had in the office. Needless to say not sure if they can be fixed. Right now only God knows who did it and this they will have to live with. God Bless everyone for the kind words, concern and offer of support. Thank You Carla Womack, President Wise County Historical Society, Inc. Rosalie Gregg Exective Director of Museum and Historical Commision

Was the computer data backed up and also stored somewhere else? I assume it would be good to send some donations to replace equipment. Any insurance available to help pay for the loss? Janet -----Original Message----- From: LaDarlaK@aol.com [mailto:LaDarlaK@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:08 PM To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXWISE-L] Note from Carla Group, I would like to thank everyone for their concerns and kind words. The visitors we had last night were so kind when they were there. Opened several doors without keys, windows that wouldn't open, most horrible of all they broke into The Lost Battalion Room. Words can't express how we feel tonight to have seen the destruction that someone did. They even took a liter bottle drink and poured on the computer, printer, and monitor we had in the office. Needless to say not sure if they can be fixed. Right now only God knows who did it and this they will have to live with. God Bless everyone for the kind words, concern and offer of support. Thank You Carla Womack, President Wise County Historical Society, Inc. Rosalie Gregg Exective Director of Museum and Historical Commision

La Darla: I so deeply regret the report of vandalism at the Museum. D. A. -- D. A. Sharpe 805 Derting Road East Aurora, TX 76078-3712 817-638-5560

One more time, please, give us a snail mail address so that those who can afford a few dollars donation to help replace the damaged computer equipment will know exactly where to send it. I had the pleasure of visiting the 'hill' in 1995. My mother and I spent a few nights with her cousin in Bowie, and I ran down and did a bit of research. I purchased a couple books while there. My heartfelt sorrow for the damage others did. ear

Please address your e mail messages for the museum to: _carwom@ntws.net (Ronald and Carla Womack)_ (mailto:carwom@ntws.net (Ronald and Carla Womack)) Unknown (so far) persons broke into the Wise County Heritage Museum and damaged and stole a number of items. The computer was destroyed by pouring a soft drink into all parts of it. These unfeeling thieves also vandalized and stole from the Lost Battillion Room. So much effort had been put into gathering objects to honor our brave men who served and were imprisoned in Java during WW II. Other areas of the museum were also vandalized and had items taken. What little money kept in the cash drawer was taken. Everyone has worked so hard to renovate this beautiful old building and preserved some of the county's history, and the money to do so is so hard to come by.. I guess it is the same old story...a few can ruin things for so many. Remember to address your museum requeats and messages to _carwom@ntws.net_ (mailto:carwom@ntws.net) Thanks, La Darla

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Neal" <kcneal@charter.net> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Sam West > Samuel Martin West was my greatgrandfather. I believe my grandmother > (Carrie West) told me that her father SMW was born in Tarrant County near > Keller and Southlake. It was a community called Lonesome Dove. I found the > cemetary with my mother years ago, but I did not get information about how > to find out who and where people are buried there. I know Carrie Ellen West > Minor had a cousin named Earnest Jones and he owned a hardware store. I > believe he had a deaf brother named Newt. I would love to have any > information about the West family. Sam West had an older brother that lived > in Bridgeport before he went there. I believe he married (Laura Ellen > Sullins West), was a sister to his brother'w wife. I am not positive about > that. There were second cousins somewhere in that generation of the family. > I know Sam West was a Mason and belonged to the lodge in Bridgeport and the > First Baptist Church. He was a rural mail man. He used a horse and buggy > to deliver the mail. Later he used a car. In 1901 they lived right by the > East Cemetary. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MERAL DAVIS" <meda@advantexmail.net> > To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Sam West > > > > Hi, > > > > I checked the book BIRTH RECORDS WISE COUNTY, TEXAS 1864-1902, by Julian G > > Allen, 1907. > > > > In it I found listed the birth of WEST Samuel Edgar 03/24/1901 Male > > Decatur (15106) * WEST John (AR) * RUSHING Myrtle T (TX). > > > > Also listed is the birth of WEST Carrie Ellen 03/02/1901 Female > Bridgeport > > (22086)* WEST Samuel Martin (TX) * SULLINS Laura Ellen (MO). > > > > Also listed is the birth of WEST Sidney Littleton 02/06/1900 Male > Paradise > > (10022) * WEST Samuel Littleton (AL) * TOWRY Margaret Elizabeth (AR). > > > > These are the only "Sam" West's that are listed. Hope it helps. > > > > Meral Davis > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <dmross14@juno.com> > > To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Sam West > > > > > > > > > > Hello, do you have the name of Sam West's father? My GGGrandmother is > > Tempa Ann West (1847-1930)and married Kerney McDonald (1843-1900). > Tempa's > > parents are James Madden West and Elizabeth W. Sullivan from Tennessee. I > > have more information on the West and Sullivan sides of the family if > > interested. Thank you, Donna > > > > > > > > > > > >

Samuel Martin West was my greatgrandfather. I believe my grandmother (Carrie West) told me that her father SMW was born in Tarrant County near Keller and Southlake. It was a community called Lonesome Dove. I found the cemetary with my mother years ago, but I did not get information about how to find out who and where people are buried there. I know Carrie Ellen West Minor had a cousin named Earnest Jones and he owned a hardware store. I believe he had a deaf brother named Newt. I would love to have any information about the West family. Sam West had an older brother that lived in Bridgeport before he went there. I believe he married (Laura Ellen Sullins West), was a sister to his brother'w wife. I am not positive about that. There were second cousins somewhere in that generation of the family. I know Sam West was a Mason and belonged to the lodge in Bridgeport and the First Baptist Church. He was a rural mail man. He used a horse and buggy to deliver the mail. Later he used a car. In 1901 they lived right by the East Cemetary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MERAL DAVIS" <meda@advantexmail.net> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Sam West > Hi, > > I checked the book BIRTH RECORDS WISE COUNTY, TEXAS 1864-1902, by Julian G > Allen, 1907. > > In it I found listed the birth of WEST Samuel Edgar 03/24/1901 Male > Decatur (15106) * WEST John (AR) * RUSHING Myrtle T (TX). > > Also listed is the birth of WEST Carrie Ellen 03/02/1901 Female Bridgeport > (22086)* WEST Samuel Martin (TX) * SULLINS Laura Ellen (MO). > > Also listed is the birth of WEST Sidney Littleton 02/06/1900 Male Paradise > (10022) * WEST Samuel Littleton (AL) * TOWRY Margaret Elizabeth (AR). > > These are the only "Sam" West's that are listed. Hope it helps. > > Meral Davis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dmross14@juno.com> > To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Sam West > > > > > > Hello, do you have the name of Sam West's father? My GGGrandmother is > Tempa Ann West (1847-1930)and married Kerney McDonald (1843-1900). Tempa's > parents are James Madden West and Elizabeth W. Sullivan from Tennessee. I > have more information on the West and Sullivan sides of the family if > interested. Thank you, Donna > > > > > >

Julie, I doubt you will find a death certificate for her, because Texas did not require them until 1903. However, some cities and towns did begin registration in 1900, although compliance was low. Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: <Neatstuffgifts@aol.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] genealogy > Meral, those are both in my line, thank you! I sure wish the death > certificates were as easy to find. Phoebia "Bell" Collins Terry died 16 Oct 1900. I > was wrong in my last message. Her son Homer Terry was born the day she died. I > sure would like to find a death cert. for her! Julie > >

Yes, I wrote that. It's about my father, who took the photo that Meral mentioned. My thanks to all of you who took time to do various searches for me. So far there are no matches, but the suggestion to go through the Wise files is probably worthwhile. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hollis [mailto:richardhollis@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:47 PM To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXWISE-L] Joseph Worth Ray found a Joseph Worth Ray at this website.... http://www.rootsweb.com/~kscomanc/schrock_ed_bio.html -----Original Message----- From: jhubbard [mailto:jhubbard@mcn.org] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 7:06 PM To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [TXWISE-L] genealogy I am looking for a Mark Ray although I don't know if that's his middle or first name. He was born July 21, year unknown although it should be after 1875 and before 1883. His father was Joseph Worth Ray. Mother Emily Elizabeth (Holt) Ray. Their later children were Jackson Lee Ray, born 26 July 1878. I am also looking for Tom Joe Ray and Gladney Ray (sex unknown; perhaps female?), born to the same family sometime before 1892 or 1893. I believe all of these births were in Wise County and probably in/around Aurora or Rhome. Thanks for whatever you can find. Anything will be more than I have now! Janet Hubbard -----Original Message----- From: David E. Pitts [mailto:pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:17 PM To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] genealogy Judy, There is a birth records book which covers some of the births from 1864 to 1902. If you will give me the names I'll see if they are listed in the book. Dave Pitts Houston Texas On Sunday, August 22, 2004, at 03:25 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > jesperry@qwest.net

Meral, those are both in my line, thank you! I sure wish the death certificates were as easy to find. Phoebia "Bell" Collins Terry died 16 Oct 1900. I was wrong in my last message. Her son Homer Terry was born the day she died. I sure would like to find a death cert. for her! Julie

Are there any birth listings in your book for the children of Samuel Dow Turner and Nancy Mae Rebecca Brooks. Theri names were: Ruth, Homer, Gladys (born in 1902), Eldon, and Beva Beatrice. The family lived in Wise County until 1933. Kerry McCullough 101 E. Bissel Street Hugo, OK 74743 kerrymccullough@hotmail.com From: "MERAL DAVIS" <meda@advantexmail.net> Reply-To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] genealogy Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:35:37 -0500 Hi Julie In the book BIRTH RECORDS OF WISE COUNTY, TEXAS 1864-1902, by Julian G Allen, 1907, I found the following listing: TERRY Flora Jane 01/08/1893 female Chico (15985)* TERRY James (TN) * COLLINS Bell (TN). There was another Terry-Collins connection you might be interested in. COLLINS William Jaspar 04/11/1902 Male Alvord (6324) * COLLINS Henry Clay (TN) * TERRY Callie (AL). Hope this is of help. Meral Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: <Neatstuffgifts@aol.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] genealogy > Dave, can you check and see if you have a Phoebia J. "Belle" Collins Terry? > She died 16 Oct 1900. Thanks! > > Julie Coley > 111 Aberdeen St. > Wichita Falls, TX 76302 > _J.K.Street Letters and My Family Tree_ > (http://wehaveneatstuff.com/streetpapers.htm) > > > _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

Hi Julie In the book BIRTH RECORDS OF WISE COUNTY, TEXAS 1864-1902, by Julian G Allen, 1907, I found the following listing: TERRY Flora Jane 01/08/1893 female Chico (15985)* TERRY James (TN) * COLLINS Bell (TN). There was another Terry-Collins connection you might be interested in. COLLINS William Jaspar 04/11/1902 Male Alvord (6324) * COLLINS Henry Clay (TN) * TERRY Callie (AL). Hope this is of help. Meral Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: <Neatstuffgifts@aol.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] genealogy > Dave, can you check and see if you have a Phoebia J. "Belle" Collins Terry? > She died 16 Oct 1900. Thanks! > > Julie Coley > 111 Aberdeen St. > Wichita Falls, TX 76302 > _J.K.Street Letters and My Family Tree_ > (http://wehaveneatstuff.com/streetpapers.htm) > > >

Hi, I checked the book BIRTH RECORDS WISE COUNTY, TEXAS 1864-1902, by Julian G Allen, 1907. In it I found listed the birth of WEST Samuel Edgar 03/24/1901 Male Decatur (15106) * WEST John (AR) * RUSHING Myrtle T (TX). Also listed is the birth of WEST Carrie Ellen 03/02/1901 Female Bridgeport (22086)* WEST Samuel Martin (TX) * SULLINS Laura Ellen (MO). Also listed is the birth of WEST Sidney Littleton 02/06/1900 Male Paradise (10022) * WEST Samuel Littleton (AL) * TOWRY Margaret Elizabeth (AR). These are the only "Sam" West's that are listed. Hope it helps. Meral Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmross14@juno.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Sam West > > Hello, do you have the name of Sam West's father? My GGGrandmother is Tempa Ann West (1847-1930)and married Kerney McDonald (1843-1900). Tempa's parents are James Madden West and Elizabeth W. Sullivan from Tennessee. I have more information on the West and Sullivan sides of the family if interested. Thank you, Donna > >