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    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield
    2. J.T. DeShong
    3. Hi Diana, You are SO right! One of the things I did do, while I was researching, was to find history to go along with the time lines I was following--not only the Texas Revolution, but years of drought, or depression, national issues going on at the same time, how the Regulator/Modulator war might have affected the family, Indian wars--or peace, and what they were wearing and eating! I discovered several antedotes about a plague of grasshoppers that swarmed over North Texas, and all about the sated chickens, and what things people did about the grasshoppers. I also found out about something called "moonstones", a cure for--what?--I don't remember at the moment, but it was an absurd, hopeless cure. I read about a little boy who was killed by a rattlesnake when he reached under his bed for his ball. One of the most memorable true stories was one of an Indian massacre in or near Wise county--a woman was scalped, but didn't die right away. She described to her caretakers that being scalped "sounded like a cow pulling its foot from the mud". One of the most fascinating things I learned, while researching at the Texas State Archives was that the author Cormac McCarthy, who wrote (among others) "Blood Meridian", did extensive research, and several of his characters were based on real people, using events that actually happened. Putting the people in their own history helps to bring them more alive. The logic, observations, and speculations you used to conclude Elizabeth was married to Granville may not have documentation, but except for using it to get into DART, it's a proof of its own. The hardest part I found about writing a book is that it is an intensely solitary activity, filled with mind-searching and grunting that doesn't appreciate interruption! And I just don't seem to be geared for solitude!! But if we all would just write down not only what we know about these people, but our pretty accurate speculations, too, imagine what a gift it would be to our descendants who run across all that treasure!! Sorry--as you can see once in a while the keyboard can still kidnap me! -Joanne www.jdeshong.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana White" <dkwhite@charter.net> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield > Joanne, > > I am not laughing - we all need to write a book or at least a short > manuscript with our research and conclusions. It is the one thing most of > us put off doing. > > Eighto or so years ago, I wrote about one of my observations. It was about > 8 pages putting forth the reasons and documents that led to the conclusion > that Elizabeth Petitt, the daugther of Robert and Melinda Logan Pettit, > was the wife of Granville Kuykendall. I had census, land records, probate > records, etc that pointed to that. However, there is not a marriage > license or any docuement with both of their names on it. > > She died in about 1846-47, so she was not on the 1850 census. > > If we did that on every question, we would have a record of our work. > > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J.T. DeShong" <jdeshong@nctv.com> > To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield > > >> Hi Diana, >> About 5 years ago, I was digging everywhere, and may have seen at least >> one of those sites. I'm going to have to go back and take another look, >> though! I think I'm about ready to delve in again! >> I had been planning a book (go ahead, laugh--I do!!) about this ancestor, >> but somewhere along the way, I discovered two half-sisters of mine, which >> sort of blew me out of the water, and I abandoned my search for W.W.O. >> until just a few weeks ago. >> Thank you for Googling W.W.O.--I used to do that from time to time, and >> found the results for a Masonic lodge and that was about it! Thanks for >> letting me know there's more now!! >> I really, really appreciate your message! >> -Joanne >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Diana White" <dkwhite@charter.net> >> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield >> >> >>> Joanne, I am sure you have seen these, since I did a Google search on >>> WWO Stanfield and found your extensive research there. Diana >>> >>> http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicResults.jsp >>> >>> Check out this site for more information on WWO Stanfield. >>> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00286/cah-00286.html >>> >>> >>> Obituary for THOMAS LIDDLE STANFIELD, son of W.W.O. Stanfield >>> >>> (Newspaper clipping from a Terrell, Texas newspaper) >>> >>> "Captain Stanfield No More-Old Time Citizen Dies Suddenly from Heart >>> Failure >>> >>> With the drifting out of the last sands of the year 1910 there passed >>> away one of the oldest citizens of Terrell, Captain Thomas L. Stanfield, >>> whose death occurred about 10:30 Friday night. It is presumed that death >>> was the result of heart failure. Thursday Captain Stanfield spent in >>> Dallas attending to some business, returning on the first train in the >>> evening. He retired at about his usual hour seemingly in good health >>> (unclear for a few lines) while spent with him, he seemed to be at ease >>> again and his family retired shortly after to be again aroused when they >>> found the husband and father breathing his last. A physician was quickly >>> summoned, but it was to no avail (unclear few words). >>> >>> News of the unexpected death quickly spread this morning and was the >>> theme of universal comment, coming as it did with no warning whatever to >>> his friends who just the day before saw him in his usual good health. >>> >>> The funeral services are announced to take place Sunday afternoon at 2 >>> o'clock under the auspices of the local Masonic Lodge. The organization >>> will gather at the residence at 906 West Grove Street and will go from >>> there to the Presbyterian church where the services will be held, >>> internment following in Oakland cemetery. >>> >>> Biographical- >>> >>> Captain Stanfield had enjoyed the distinction of (unclear) practitioner >>> in the profession in Kaufman County. His father was born in Virginia and >>> his mother in England, and were married in Texas, where he first saw the >>> light of day. He lived in Texas from the time of his birth, consequently >>> under every flag that has floated over Texas since the declaration of >>> independence from Mexico. >>> >>> A lawyer by profession, he was universally regarded as being a safe >>> counselor and of good legal judgment, and made a specialty of land law >>> and the perfecting of land titles. Conservative in his counsel, he never >>> involved his clients in litigation without at least a fair prospect of >>> success, hence the dockets show the successful termination of a large >>> majority of his cases. >>> >>> He at one time held the office of district clerk of Jack County and was >>> the first attorney of Wise County under the constitution of 1868, which >>> office he held until he was removed by the reconstruction acts. He was >>> at the first election thereafter elected to the office of presiding >>> justice. He was the first attorney of Rockwall County, holding the >>> office several terms and finally resigned to take the office of County >>> Judge, which he resigned in 1882, before moving to Terrell, where he >>> located Dec. 25, 1882. He held office in Rockwall County during his >>> entire residence in the county without ever having to become a >>> candidate. >>> >>> Captain Stanfield took a lively interest in educational matters and >>> served several terms as a member of the Terrell school board. Prominent >>> in Masonic circles he for many years held the office ofdistrict deputy >>> grand master and was holding the office of grand visitor for the grand >>> Royal Arch Chapter at the time of his death." >>> >>> >>> Diana >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >

    10/10/2004 01:12:07
    1. Dan Community
    2. Craig
    3. Is there any information about the vanished Dan community in Wise county? Thanks, Craig

    10/10/2004 12:42:03
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield
    2. Diana White
    3. Joanne, I am not laughing - we all need to write a book or at least a short manuscript with our research and conclusions. It is the one thing most of us put off doing. Eighto or so years ago, I wrote about one of my observations. It was about 8 pages putting forth the reasons and documents that led to the conclusion that Elizabeth Petitt, the daugther of Robert and Melinda Logan Pettit, was the wife of Granville Kuykendall. I had census, land records, probate records, etc that pointed to that. However, there is not a marriage license or any docuement with both of their names on it. She died in about 1846-47, so she was not on the 1850 census. If we did that on every question, we would have a record of our work. Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.T. DeShong" <jdeshong@nctv.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield > Hi Diana, > About 5 years ago, I was digging everywhere, and may have seen at least > one of those sites. I'm going to have to go back and take another look, > though! I think I'm about ready to delve in again! > I had been planning a book (go ahead, laugh--I do!!) about this ancestor, > but somewhere along the way, I discovered two half-sisters of mine, which > sort of blew me out of the water, and I abandoned my search for W.W.O. > until just a few weeks ago. > Thank you for Googling W.W.O.--I used to do that from time to time, and > found the results for a Masonic lodge and that was about it! Thanks for > letting me know there's more now!! > I really, really appreciate your message! > -Joanne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diana White" <dkwhite@charter.net> > To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield > > >> Joanne, I am sure you have seen these, since I did a Google search on WWO >> Stanfield and found your extensive research there. Diana >> >> http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicResults.jsp >> >> Check out this site for more information on WWO Stanfield. >> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00286/cah-00286.html >> >> >> Obituary for THOMAS LIDDLE STANFIELD, son of W.W.O. Stanfield >> >> (Newspaper clipping from a Terrell, Texas newspaper) >> >> "Captain Stanfield No More-Old Time Citizen Dies Suddenly from Heart >> Failure >> >> With the drifting out of the last sands of the year 1910 there passed >> away one of the oldest citizens of Terrell, Captain Thomas L. Stanfield, >> whose death occurred about 10:30 Friday night. It is presumed that death >> was the result of heart failure. Thursday Captain Stanfield spent in >> Dallas attending to some business, returning on the first train in the >> evening. He retired at about his usual hour seemingly in good health >> (unclear for a few lines) while spent with him, he seemed to be at ease >> again and his family retired shortly after to be again aroused when they >> found the husband and father breathing his last. A physician was quickly >> summoned, but it was to no avail (unclear few words). >> >> News of the unexpected death quickly spread this morning and was the >> theme of universal comment, coming as it did with no warning whatever to >> his friends who just the day before saw him in his usual good health. >> >> The funeral services are announced to take place Sunday afternoon at 2 >> o'clock under the auspices of the local Masonic Lodge. The organization >> will gather at the residence at 906 West Grove Street and will go from >> there to the Presbyterian church where the services will be held, >> internment following in Oakland cemetery. >> >> Biographical- >> >> Captain Stanfield had enjoyed the distinction of (unclear) practitioner >> in the profession in Kaufman County. His father was born in Virginia and >> his mother in England, and were married in Texas, where he first saw the >> light of day. He lived in Texas from the time of his birth, consequently >> under every flag that has floated over Texas since the declaration of >> independence from Mexico. >> >> A lawyer by profession, he was universally regarded as being a safe >> counselor and of good legal judgment, and made a specialty of land law >> and the perfecting of land titles. Conservative in his counsel, he never >> involved his clients in litigation without at least a fair prospect of >> success, hence the dockets show the successful termination of a large >> majority of his cases. >> >> He at one time held the office of district clerk of Jack County and was >> the first attorney of Wise County under the constitution of 1868, which >> office he held until he was removed by the reconstruction acts. He was at >> the first election thereafter elected to the office of presiding justice. >> He was the first attorney of Rockwall County, holding the office several >> terms and finally resigned to take the office of County Judge, which he >> resigned in 1882, before moving to Terrell, where he located Dec. 25, >> 1882. He held office in Rockwall County during his entire residence in >> the county without ever having to become a candidate. >> >> Captain Stanfield took a lively interest in educational matters and >> served several terms as a member of the Terrell school board. Prominent >> in Masonic circles he for many years held the office ofdistrict deputy >> grand master and was holding the office of grand visitor for the grand >> Royal Arch Chapter at the time of his death." >> >> >> Diana >> >> >> > >

    10/10/2004 12:18:34
    1. J. Noah Elliott
    2. LaDarla, In regards to the message that I posted earlier on the Elliots, I have found a J. Noah Elliott's funeral record. He died Jan. 12, 1927 in Decatur and he was the Son of Barney L. and Nancy or Nannie Tibbits Elliott and the record says that he was buried in the Cottonwood Cemetery. This cemetery is not in my cemetery book. Can you tell me where it is? Also, is there anyway that you can lookup an obit for him and just see if it lists a surviving sister by the name of Lulu and where she was from? She had divorced Babe Williams by this time and was supposed to have been in CA. I would appreciate any help that you can give me on this. I just want to be able to prove that Barney Elliott is Lulu's father. Thanks! Julie Thanks to Dave Pitts I have now found out that My Great Grand Uncle Babe Williams married Lulu Elliott 24 Dec 1898. Lulu was born Oct. 1884. In 1900 they were living in Forestburg, Montague Co. but by 1900 they were back in Wise Co. and had 2 daughters, Blanche and Bertie. Is there anyone on this list searching an Elliott family? Julie Coley 111 Aberdeen St. Wichita Falls, TX 76302 _J.K.Street Letters and My Family Tree_ (http://wehaveneatstuff.com/streetpapers.htm)

    10/10/2004 09:01:12
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield
    2. J.T. DeShong
    3. Hi Diana, About 5 years ago, I was digging everywhere, and may have seen at least one of those sites. I'm going to have to go back and take another look, though! I think I'm about ready to delve in again! I had been planning a book (go ahead, laugh--I do!!) about this ancestor, but somewhere along the way, I discovered two half-sisters of mine, which sort of blew me out of the water, and I abandoned my search for W.W.O. until just a few weeks ago. Thank you for Googling W.W.O.--I used to do that from time to time, and found the results for a Masonic lodge and that was about it! Thanks for letting me know there's more now!! I really, really appreciate your message! -Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana White" <dkwhite@charter.net> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield > Joanne, I am sure you have seen these, since I did a Google search on WWO > Stanfield and found your extensive research there. Diana > > http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicResults.jsp > > Check out this site for more information on WWO Stanfield. > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00286/cah-00286.html > > > Obituary for THOMAS LIDDLE STANFIELD, son of W.W.O. Stanfield > > (Newspaper clipping from a Terrell, Texas newspaper) > > "Captain Stanfield No More-Old Time Citizen Dies Suddenly from Heart > Failure > > With the drifting out of the last sands of the year 1910 there passed away > one of the oldest citizens of Terrell, Captain Thomas L. Stanfield, whose > death occurred about 10:30 Friday night. It is presumed that death was the > result of heart failure. Thursday Captain Stanfield spent in Dallas > attending to some business, returning on the first train in the evening. > He retired at about his usual hour seemingly in good health (unclear for a > few lines) while spent with him, he seemed to be at ease again and his > family retired shortly after to be again aroused when they found the > husband and father breathing his last. A physician was quickly summoned, > but it was to no avail (unclear few words). > > News of the unexpected death quickly spread this morning and was the theme > of universal comment, coming as it did with no warning whatever to his > friends who just the day before saw him in his usual good health. > > The funeral services are announced to take place Sunday afternoon at 2 > o'clock under the auspices of the local Masonic Lodge. The organization > will gather at the residence at 906 West Grove Street and will go from > there to the Presbyterian church where the services will be held, > internment following in Oakland cemetery. > > Biographical- > > Captain Stanfield had enjoyed the distinction of (unclear) practitioner in > the profession in Kaufman County. His father was born in Virginia and his > mother in England, and were married in Texas, where he first saw the light > of day. He lived in Texas from the time of his birth, consequently under > every flag that has floated over Texas since the declaration of > independence from Mexico. > > A lawyer by profession, he was universally regarded as being a safe > counselor and of good legal judgment, and made a specialty of land law and > the perfecting of land titles. Conservative in his counsel, he never > involved his clients in litigation without at least a fair prospect of > success, hence the dockets show the successful termination of a large > majority of his cases. > > He at one time held the office of district clerk of Jack County and was > the first attorney of Wise County under the constitution of 1868, which > office he held until he was removed by the reconstruction acts. He was at > the first election thereafter elected to the office of presiding justice. > He was the first attorney of Rockwall County, holding the office several > terms and finally resigned to take the office of County Judge, which he > resigned in 1882, before moving to Terrell, where he located Dec. 25, > 1882. He held office in Rockwall County during his entire residence in the > county without ever having to become a candidate. > > Captain Stanfield took a lively interest in educational matters and served > several terms as a member of the Terrell school board. Prominent in > Masonic circles he for many years held the office ofdistrict deputy grand > master and was holding the office of grand visitor for the grand Royal > Arch Chapter at the time of his death." > > > Diana > > >

    10/10/2004 08:05:18
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield
    2. J.T. DeShong
    3. Hi again, You have inspired me to try to organize my notes and information about the Stanfield descendants of W.W.O. Stanfield. Turns out, I HAD looked at a copy of the Pioneer History of Wise County, but it was at the San Antonio Historical site, and apparently I was in a frenzy of having copies made of everything I could find, without actually reading much of it! And it never occurred to me to look up Thomas's name, so I don't have much of that. I'm going to order a copy of the book from the museum tomorrow! What I'm doing right now is copying everything I have with actual documentation and or acknowledgements, and will follow with undocumented information. As soon as I finish doing that, I will email it to you (and laDarla) in an attachment. Some of this is already on the Wise County website, but not in as organized a format. I have a lot of odd little bits of information I collected over the years--I thought for a while I'd write a book about W.W.O.'s life, but the collecting of all the info, and the difficulty of my lack of imagination have pretty much cured that idea!! Thank you so much for all your valuable information! I'll be sending you my info sometime later today. Thanks, Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tcmcmurray@aol.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield > > In a message dated 10/9/2004 9:13:20 AM Central Daylight Time, > jdeshong@nctv.com writes: > Hi, > I'm sorry I don't know any more about the Stanfields. Are you familiar > with > Cliff Cates, Pioneer History of Wise County ? It has a picture of > Capt.Thomas > L. Stanfield (p. 336). It mentions that he is a pioneer citizen of Wise > County, but living in Terrell, TX when the book was written in 1907.On p. > 214 of > same book, it says that he is now a veteran attorney of Terrell, TX. and > was > a "youthful legal light of the county seat (Wise), was at this time > intervening in the behalf of the citizens for the re-establishment of the > much -needed > mail lines (after the Indian troubles had ceased). The mail continued to > be > brought from Denton". If you would like to share about his parents, etc. I > would appreciate it. I don't know much about his wife Emily Beeson, except > that > when her sister, Margaret Alice Beeson, came to visit her in Decatur from > Sulphur Springs, she met her future husband and original settler of Wise > County, > Charles C. Thompson, my husband's great grandfather. > Janet G. McMurray > (Mrs. Clyde) > > YES!! Hooray!! You are the first person I've had contact with who had > even > the vaguest connection with descendants of W.W.O. Stanfield (Thomas > Liddle > Stanfield's father)!! I have information that Thomas's daughter was > named > Jesse, and she is one of the first members of the Daughters of the Texas > Revolution. Apparently there were two daughters--I don't have any > information about Annie Lee, but I'll try to run her down! > I finally got discouraged from not being about to go any further on the > Stanfield line than my own that I'll have to do some digging to refresh > my > memory. > My grandmother (Ruby Stanfield, 1889-1986) grew up and taught school > (until > 1910, when they moved) around Wise County (Chico and Bowie that I know > of) > and talked about her many cousins in that area (Gardners, Stanfields, > Ramsdales, and others). I've always thought it incredible that out of > that > many children and descendants of those chirldren that it seems I'm the > only > one interested in genealogy! > Thank you, thank you again, for contacting me!! > -Joanne > > > > > > >

    10/10/2004 07:59:33
    1. Elliotts of Wise Co.
    2. Thanks to Dave Pitts I have now found out that My Great Grand Uncle Babe Williams married Lulu Elliott 24 Dec 1898. Lulu was born Oct. 1884. In 1900 they were living in Forestburg, Montague Co. but by 1900 they were back in Wise Co. and had 2 daughters, Blanche and Bertie. Is there anyone on this list searching an Elliott family? Julie Coley 111 Aberdeen St. Wichita Falls, TX 76302 _J.K.Street Letters and My Family Tree_ (http://wehaveneatstuff.com/streetpapers.htm)

    10/10/2004 07:07:09
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield
    2. Diana White
    3. Joanne, I am sure you have seen these, since I did a Google search on WWO Stanfield and found your extensive research there. Diana http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicResults.jsp Check out this site for more information on WWO Stanfield. http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00286/cah-00286.html Obituary for THOMAS LIDDLE STANFIELD, son of W.W.O. Stanfield (Newspaper clipping from a Terrell, Texas newspaper) "Captain Stanfield No More-Old Time Citizen Dies Suddenly from Heart Failure With the drifting out of the last sands of the year 1910 there passed away one of the oldest citizens of Terrell, Captain Thomas L. Stanfield, whose death occurred about 10:30 Friday night. It is presumed that death was the result of heart failure. Thursday Captain Stanfield spent in Dallas attending to some business, returning on the first train in the evening. He retired at about his usual hour seemingly in good health (unclear for a few lines) while spent with him, he seemed to be at ease again and his family retired shortly after to be again aroused when they found the husband and father breathing his last. A physician was quickly summoned, but it was to no avail (unclear few words). News of the unexpected death quickly spread this morning and was the theme of universal comment, coming as it did with no warning whatever to his friends who just the day before saw him in his usual good health. The funeral services are announced to take place Sunday afternoon at 2 o'clock under the auspices of the local Masonic Lodge. The organization will gather at the residence at 906 West Grove Street and will go from there to the Presbyterian church where the services will be held, internment following in Oakland cemetery. Biographical- Captain Stanfield had enjoyed the distinction of (unclear) practitioner in the profession in Kaufman County. His father was born in Virginia and his mother in England, and were married in Texas, where he first saw the light of day. He lived in Texas from the time of his birth, consequently under every flag that has floated over Texas since the declaration of independence from Mexico. A lawyer by profession, he was universally regarded as being a safe counselor and of good legal judgment, and made a specialty of land law and the perfecting of land titles. Conservative in his counsel, he never involved his clients in litigation without at least a fair prospect of success, hence the dockets show the successful termination of a large majority of his cases. He at one time held the office of district clerk of Jack County and was the first attorney of Wise County under the constitution of 1868, which office he held until he was removed by the reconstruction acts. He was at the first election thereafter elected to the office of presiding justice. He was the first attorney of Rockwall County, holding the office several terms and finally resigned to take the office of County Judge, which he resigned in 1882, before moving to Terrell, where he located Dec. 25, 1882. He held office in Rockwall County during his entire residence in the county without ever having to become a candidate. Captain Stanfield took a lively interest in educational matters and served several terms as a member of the Terrell school board. Prominent in Masonic circles he for many years held the office ofdistrict deputy grand master and was holding the office of grand visitor for the grand Royal Arch Chapter at the time of his death." Diana

    10/10/2004 05:29:15
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Grover Carl Jones
    2. David E. Pitts
    3. Vera, I did a lookup for you from: Birth Records Wise County Texas, 1864-1902 by Julian G. Allen, publ. by Julian G. Allen 1986, Austin Texas. In my experience only about 10% of the births in this period were reported. page 193 Johnnie Jackson Jones (b. TN) and Mary Elizabeth Stevenson (b. GA) had a child: Joady Clarence Jones, born Oct 30, 1897, M, Alvord (reg. # 8664) That was the only birth listed for this couple. Sorry but Grover Carl Jones wasn't listed. Dave Pitts Houston TX On Sunday, October 10, 2004, at 09:35 AM, kamieljones@webtv.net wrote: > I need a lookup for the birth of Grover Carl Jones born 1892 June 16, I > know he was born near Alvord, his parents were Johnny Jackson Jones > (John J Jones) and Mary E. Stevensons Jones. > Thank You > Vera Jones >

    10/10/2004 04:40:22
    1. Grover Carl Jones
    2. I need a lookup for the birth of Grover Carl Jones born 1892 June 16, I know he was born near Alvord, his parents were Johnny Jackson Jones (John J Jones) and Mary E. Stevensons Jones. Thank You Vera Jones

    10/10/2004 03:35:20
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Bridgeport (?) School Census/Directorys/Records 1873 - 1883
    2. Sue Tackel
    3. Yes, Bridgeport TX is in Wise County. I looked for the name Hassenstab/Hasenstab in all our cemetery records, funeral records, and the 1880 and 1870 census, and didn't find that name. ????????? Sorry. The Wise County Heritage Museum does have some old school records. Maybe they can help. Their web page - http://homepages.ntws.net/sites/wisemuseum/ Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Highum" <shighum@srt.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: [TXWISE-L] Bridgeport (?) School Census/Directorys/Records 1873 - 1883 > Are there any school census and/or records for Bridgeport area for the years > 1873 - 1883? My GGGrandfather was somewhere in that area then according to > the death certificate of one of his daughters. Dave Pitts has been kind and > looked in the birth books but, maybe because it was early, there was no > record of his daughter's birth. He would have had at least two children, > possibly as many as four, who would be the right ages for attending school. > Any suggestions of other records that might exist where I could locate him? > His name was Frank Hassenstab (Hasenstab), daughter's name was Mollie born > 10 April 1877 in Bridgeport TX. (Am I even looking in the right county??) > The family was Catholic at the time. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > Sara > > >

    10/10/2004 03:06:58
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Stanfield
    2. In a message dated 10/9/2004 9:13:20 AM Central Daylight Time, jdeshong@nctv.com writes: Hi, I'm sorry I don't know any more about the Stanfields. Are you familiar with Cliff Cates, Pioneer History of Wise County ? It has a picture of Capt.Thomas L. Stanfield (p. 336). It mentions that he is a pioneer citizen of Wise County, but living in Terrell, TX when the book was written in 1907.On p. 214 of same book, it says that he is now a veteran attorney of Terrell, TX. and was a "youthful legal light of the county seat (Wise), was at this time intervening in the behalf of the citizens for the re-establishment of the much -needed mail lines (after the Indian troubles had ceased). The mail continued to be brought from Denton". If you would like to share about his parents, etc. I would appreciate it. I don't know much about his wife Emily Beeson, except that when her sister, Margaret Alice Beeson, came to visit her in Decatur from Sulphur Springs, she met her future husband and original settler of Wise County, Charles C. Thompson, my husband's great grandfather. Janet G. McMurray (Mrs. Clyde) YES!! Hooray!! You are the first person I've had contact with who had even the vaguest connection with descendants of W.W.O. Stanfield (Thomas Liddle Stanfield's father)!! I have information that Thomas's daughter was named Jesse, and she is one of the first members of the Daughters of the Texas Revolution. Apparently there were two daughters--I don't have any information about Annie Lee, but I'll try to run her down! I finally got discouraged from not being about to go any further on the Stanfield line than my own that I'll have to do some digging to refresh my memory. My grandmother (Ruby Stanfield, 1889-1986) grew up and taught school (until 1910, when they moved) around Wise County (Chico and Bowie that I know of) and talked about her many cousins in that area (Gardners, Stanfields, Ramsdales, and others). I've always thought it incredible that out of that many children and descendants of those chirldren that it seems I'm the only one interested in genealogy! Thank you, thank you again, for contacting me!! -Joanne

    10/09/2004 04:24:27
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] 1881 Marriage
    2. David E. Pitts
    3. Kathleen, I was going to check for you, but it turns out that I don't have the microfilm for 1881. Sorry, Dave Pitts On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 10:20 PM, KATHLEEN HAMMOND wrote: > All I have is a notation that Mary Ellen Terry married James Calvin > Lowe 'sometime in 1881 in Wise Co.' I didn't see it listed on the > Marriage Lists. Could some kind soul look a little closer on that > year's list for me, PLEASE? > > Thank you, > Kathleen >

    10/09/2004 02:40:32
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] 1881 Marriage
    2. KATHLEEN HAMMOND
    3. Thank you Dave for your efforts. I do appreciate the time and effort. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: David E. Pitts<mailto:pitts-gen-281@sbcglobal.net> To: TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] 1881 Marriage Kathleen, I was going to check for you, but it turns out that I don't have the microfilm for 1881. Sorry, Dave Pitts On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 10:20 PM, KATHLEEN HAMMOND wrote: > All I have is a notation that Mary Ellen Terry married James Calvin > Lowe 'sometime in 1881 in Wise Co.' I didn't see it listed on the > Marriage Lists. Could some kind soul look a little closer on that > year's list for me, PLEASE? > > Thank you, > Kathleen >

    10/09/2004 02:09:58
    1. Bridgeport (?) School Census/Directorys/Records 1873 - 1883
    2. Highum
    3. Are there any school census and/or records for Bridgeport area for the years 1873 - 1883? My GGGrandfather was somewhere in that area then according to the death certificate of one of his daughters. Dave Pitts has been kind and looked in the birth books but, maybe because it was early, there was no record of his daughter's birth. He would have had at least two children, possibly as many as four, who would be the right ages for attending school. Any suggestions of other records that might exist where I could locate him? His name was Frank Hassenstab (Hasenstab), daughter's name was Mollie born 10 April 1877 in Bridgeport TX. (Am I even looking in the right county??) The family was Catholic at the time. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Sara

    10/09/2004 11:04:19
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L]pictures
    2. A LASER copier is the way to go for cheap excellent picture copies. Most print shops have them and usually can do it while you wait.Photo copiers like you see everywhere give pitiful results in comparison.

    10/09/2004 10:47:00
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Marmion
    2. Wise County Heritage Museum
    3. Barry, Our birth records are supposed to begin in 1903. Sometimes the doctor, or the parents failed to record births. If there is a record, the County Clerk have copies. They are $11.00 each. Contact: Sherry Parker, County Clerk, P. O. Box 359, Decatur, Texas 76234. Rosalie Gregg Executive Director wisemuseum@ntws.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <LaDarlaK@aol.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: [TXWISE-L] Marmion > Forwarded Message: > Subj:{not a subscriber} birth certificate > Date:10/9/2004 11:10:51 AM Central Standard Time > From:boecher@sbcglobal.net > To:txwise-l@rootsweb.com > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > I'm trying to find a birth certificate for Henry Richard Marmion who was born > Nov 5, 1906 in Wise County. Do records go back this far? > > Thank you for your time. > > Barry Boecher > Beaumont, TX >

    10/09/2004 08:59:50
    1. Re: [TXWISE-L] Marmion / Clemens
    2. mrazek
    3. I am interested in any information that is available on the Stevens family that lived around Cottondale, Texas in the late 1800's and early part of the 1900's. My grandparents are buried at Wilson Prairie Cemetery and my uncle Bob Stevens is buried along with several other relatives in the Cottondale Cemetery. I have lost all contact with any of the surviors of the Bob Stevens family and would be really interested in locating any of the brothers or sisters of my grandmother. My grandmother's name was Sarah Stevens (Sallie Stevens). She married my grandfather Azz Tate in the late 1800's. They lived around Cottondale, Draco and Paradise before moving to Bridgeport, Texas in the 1940's. They were members of the Church of Christ and my grandfather was a farmer most of his life. If anyone can give me any information regarding either the Stevens family or the Tate family please contact me . Regards, Nelda Mrazek ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.T. DeShong" <jdeshong@nctv.com> To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE-L] Marmion / Clemens > Since it seems the Wise County site is getting a lot of attention right now, > I'll throw in a question of my own; > Does anyone out there know of any Stanfields in that area that I might be > able to contact? I have a LOT of information about the family, but no one > to share it with! > Thanks, > -Joanne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LaDarlaK@aol.com> > To: <TXWISE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:50 AM > Subject: [TXWISE-L] Marmion / Clemens > > > > Forwarded Message: > > Subj:{not a subscriber} Richard Marmion > > Date:10/8/2004 6:22:05 AM Central Standard Time > > From:boecher@sbcglobal.net > > To:txwise-l@rootsweb.com > > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > > > To all, > > > > I have recently discovered that Richard Marmion shows up as a stepson in > > the > > household of a James P Clemens from 1910 to 1920 in Precint 7, Wise > > County, > > TX. He is one of my wifes relatives. > > > > Can anyone give me any information on either of these two people? In 1920 > > they show up in Bridgeport, Wise County, TX. Is there a cemetery in > > Bridgeport? > > > > Any information will be appreciated. > > > > Barry Boecher > > Beaumont, TX > > > > > > > >

    10/09/2004 06:47:00
    1. Carey/Millhollon
    2. Still looking for the rest of the Carey family,Lemuel, Eliza & Elizabeth Carey, and half sisters Nancy and Martha Hale (some of them) last found in Fannin County 1860. Charlotte Carey and her brother Isaac were found in the 1880 Wise County census. I know that Charlotte was the second wife of Samuel Millhollon, and I have most of her information death date and place, children, and a kind soul there in Wise County sent me the tombstone for Isaac. This list seems to make wonderful connections so just thought I'd try again. Thanks, Shirley in California

    10/09/2004 06:24:19
    1. Marmion
    2. Forwarded Message: Subj:{not a subscriber} birth certificate Date:10/9/2004 11:10:51 AM Central Standard Time From:boecher@sbcglobal.net To:txwise-l@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) I'm trying to find a birth certificate for Henry Richard Marmion who was born Nov 5, 1906 in Wise County. Do records go back this far? Thank you for your time. Barry Boecher Beaumont, TX

    10/09/2004 06:13:08