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Hi all, I'm happy to announce that the Texas Marriages Search and Texas Divorces Search has just added the 2005 data sets, which have been recently released by the state of Texas. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of records are represented by this dataset. Please pass this along to any friends, groups, or lists that may benefit from this data. The addresses to these datasets are as follows: Texas Marriages Search 1966-2005 http://www.genlookups.com/texas_marriages/ Texas Divorces Search 1968-2005 http://www.genlookups.com/texas_divorces/ Hope this helps. Bill Cribbs GenealogyBuff.com http://www.genealogybuff.com

This lady looks like Penelope Adams, the mother of the John Riley Munkres who married Cynthia Caroline Mode. Cyntha Caroline Mode was a daughter of John Oliver Mode and Margaret Ann Peeler. The Texas death certificate for John Riley Munkres (1945, certificate 18849, Wichita County), lists his parents as John Munkres and Penelope Adams. Might anyone know for sure?

If you will click on the link below it will show the 2 Goff children listed born to John. Is it possible he was born in 1907 and not 1909? Julie _D-G_ (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-D-G.htm) GOFF John William (M0) WALKER Ida Jane (KS) Orval Taz 11/22/99 M Decatur (4436) GOFF John BLANK blank blank 1/9/07 F blank 3100 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Deona I am descended from Bert Franklin Walker, brother of Ida Jane Walker. The Birth of Orval Taz has been a problem with me for some time. If you will notice on the Wise County Web site, his date of birth is listed as 11/22/99 but this is several years before John and Ida Jane were married. I have a copy of a small notebook or diary that was carried in the pocket of James Alexander Ford who married John and Ida Jane Walker. It clearly states that they were married February 4th, 1906. Orval Taz was not on the 1910 census. I have not located a 1920 census for John and family but an Orval which I presume was Orval Taz did appear on the census of 1930. He was listed as a laborer, 20 years of age born in Texas with father born in Missouri and mother in Kansas. Questions without good answers. Huh!! Ronald

I'm trying to find a birth record on my grandfather who was born in Decatur Tx. In 1909. his name is Orville taiz Goff Born to John W. Goff and Ida Jane Walker.

Shelby... One thing that might help your work is land records, and finding when (if) he bought land in Wise county. As has been mentioned, Wise county (in 1870) was pretty much empty, since there were so many Indian raids. Of course, land records are very extensive, and these are not online.

Arthur, Our death certificates start in 1903. The list of headstones on the Wise County web page is as complete as was humanly possible. Sue and La Darla worked that project for several years. Sorry!! David Pitts Houston TX On Saturday, April 7, 2007, at 02:15 PM, Arthur Gamon wrote: > [email protected]

Thank you for your response - I have thought about that - He obviously met and married Mary Francis Daniels - whose father John H. Daniels came to TX in 1846. John Daniels was well known enough to be included in the 1892 History of Dallas Co. The family was a well established family. So Geo. H. had to be in Dallas County in 1872. I also have a Brandon/TN line with Walker connections. My father always said that if you scratch a Texan you will find a little Tennessee underneath. Thanks Shelby Brandon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alison Stevens Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TXWISE] possibility for whereabouts of George Henry Alexander in1870 Your George Henry Alexander may have been in Wise County in 1870-- but he may have been east or south of there, too. Many early settlers of Wise County moved a county or two eastward around 1870 because of the unsettled situation after the Civil War. Then when things calmed down, they moved back to Wise County. Of course, some of them moved into the eastern portions of what is now Oklahoma and missed all censuses whatsoever. I do have family members, though, that were in Wise and Palo Pinto and Erath counties in 1870 who the census takers just missed. Perhaps the census takers feared running into a Comanche war party? For example, Jonathan Hemphill Walker, wife Rebecca, their children, and their childrens' families were in the Wise and Parker county areas by the middle 1850s. They remained in Wise County through the Civil War, but in 1870 many of them were enumerated or doing business in Grayson County, Dallas County, Denton County, etc. The survivors were back in Wise County by the 1880 census. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Your George Henry Alexander may have been in Wise County in 1870-- but he may have been east or south of there, too. Many early settlers of Wise County moved a county or two eastward around 1870 because of the unsettled situation after the Civil War. Then when things calmed down, they moved back to Wise County. Of course, some of them moved into the eastern portions of what is now Oklahoma and missed all censuses whatsoever. I do have family members, though, that were in Wise and Palo Pinto and Erath counties in 1870 who the census takers just missed. Perhaps the census takers feared running into a Comanche war party? For example, Jonathan Hemphill Walker, wife Rebecca, their children, and their childrens' families were in the Wise and Parker county areas by the middle 1850s. They remained in Wise County through the Civil War, but in 1870 many of them were enumerated or doing business in Grayson County, Dallas County, Denton County, etc. The survivors were back in Wise County by the 1880 census.

All I have is a family history written on notebook paper about 1966 by his oldest daughter, Nola McClung. My father meticulously saved and organized every newspaper clipping. I have a clipping from the FT. Worth paper in 1909 where Mary Frances' parents are celebrating their 60th anniv. I have a letter written to Mary Frances from her brother when their mother underwent surgery in 1908 - but that is her side of the family. He was a county commissioner in Hardeman Co. So I have all kinds of stuff from after they moved there - that's where my dad was born - the family history says - "he joined the civil war at age 14 yrs. He was never back home, he passed insight of his home chain to flat box car. His mother passed away during the war and his home was destroyed by the yanks. He had some step brother and sisters. But when the war was over he didn't go back to GA He came to Texas instead. He never knew anything about his family." I have looked through every record in the Georgia state archives of Confederate muster roles. Can't figure out anything. I have one button from his CSA uniform and it is an artillery button - but he was awfully young to serve in the artillery. Thanks for helping though -- I really appreciate it. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXWISE] George Henry Alexander recorded birth Do you have his military records? They will sometimes tell where he was born. http://www.geocities.com/fcruble/velmasfamilygenealogy.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "sbrandon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] George Henry Alexander recorded birth Thanks you Sue - I appreciate the help. This old "buzzard is just hard to pin down. He was my father's favorite grandfather. Old CSA vet - I have his pic on the Hardeman County Courthouse steps in 1919 when the county paid for all the CSA vets to attend a reunion. Just cannot find him anywhere before marriage to Mary Francis Daniels in Dallas in 1872. I have looked and looked in the 1860 and 1850 census. No luck - I think he was born near Milledgeville GA in about 1849 (8 April) But what happened to his people and where I don't know - Family records tell that After being released at the end of CW he learned his home had been burned and his mother had passed away so he just came to TX. Thanks again Shelby Brandon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Tackel Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXWISE] George Henry Alexander recorded birth There's one recorded birth for a George Henry Alexander and Mary Francis Daniels in 1884 on page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-A-C.htm Is that him? ALEXANDER George Henry (TN) DANIELS Mary Francis (TX) Mattie Ellis 07/30/84 F Decatur (11819) ----- Original Message ----- From: "sbrandon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [TXWISE] 1870s census > I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is in > the > 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on > Ancestry.com > - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 year > old > male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous page > but pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location of > page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have his military records? They will sometimes tell where he was born. http://www.geocities.com/fcruble/velmasfamilygenealogy.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "sbrandon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] George Henry Alexander recorded birth Thanks you Sue - I appreciate the help. This old "buzzard is just hard to pin down. He was my father's favorite grandfather. Old CSA vet - I have his pic on the Hardeman County Courthouse steps in 1919 when the county paid for all the CSA vets to attend a reunion. Just cannot find him anywhere before marriage to Mary Francis Daniels in Dallas in 1872. I have looked and looked in the 1860 and 1850 census. No luck - I think he was born near Milledgeville GA in about 1849 (8 April) But what happened to his people and where I don't know - Family records tell that After being released at the end of CW he learned his home had been burned and his mother had passed away so he just came to TX. Thanks again Shelby Brandon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Tackel Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXWISE] George Henry Alexander recorded birth There's one recorded birth for a George Henry Alexander and Mary Francis Daniels in 1884 on page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-A-C.htm Is that him? ALEXANDER George Henry (TN) DANIELS Mary Francis (TX) Mattie Ellis 07/30/84 F Decatur (11819) ----- Original Message ----- From: "sbrandon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [TXWISE] 1870s census > I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is in > the > 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on > Ancestry.com > - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 year > old > male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous page > but pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location of > page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Tommy - some one else mailed it and it was a given name not a sur name. I have his 1880 census listing - he is just hard to find anywhere before 1872.. He was my father's favorite grandfather - old CSA veteran - supposedly from around Milledgeville GA - But no record anywhere before marriage to Mary Francis Daniels in 1872 Dallas Co. They lived in Wise Co. for a while and then in Hardeman county the rest of their lives. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tommye McLemore Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1870s census Hi Shelly, I also looked for the first 10 pages of the census you are looking for. It was not there. I e-mailed Ancestry and asked where it was. I should receive an answer on Monday, first work day. I will let you know what I find out. Tommye -------Original Message------- From: sbrandon Date: 04/06/07 18:50:05 To: [email protected] Subject: [TXWISE] 1870s census I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is in the 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on Ancestry.Com - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 year old Male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous page But pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location of Page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks you Sue - I appreciate the help. This old "buzzard is just hard to pin down. He was my father's favorite grandfather. Old CSA vet - I have his pic on the Hardeman County Courthouse steps in 1919 when the county paid for all the CSA vets to attend a reunion. Just cannot find him anywhere before marriage to Mary Francis Daniels in Dallas in 1872. I have looked and looked in the 1860 and 1850 census. No luck - I think he was born near Milledgeville GA in about 1849 (8 April) But what happened to his people and where I don't know - Family records tell that After being released at the end of CW he learned his home had been burned and his mother had passed away so he just came to TX. Thanks again Shelby Brandon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Tackel Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXWISE] George Henry Alexander recorded birth There's one recorded birth for a George Henry Alexander and Mary Francis Daniels in 1884 on page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-A-C.htm Is that him? ALEXANDER George Henry (TN) DANIELS Mary Francis (TX) Mattie Ellis 07/30/84 F Decatur (11819) ----- Original Message ----- From: "sbrandon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [TXWISE] 1870s census > I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is in > the > 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on > Ancestry.com > - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 year > old > male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous page > but pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location of > page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Shelly, I also looked for the first 10 pages of the census you are looking for. It was not there. I e-mailed Ancestry and asked where it was. I should receive an answer on Monday, first work day. I will let you know what I find out. Tommye -------Original Message------- From: sbrandon Date: 04/06/07 18:50:05 To: [email protected] Subject: [TXWISE] 1870s census I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is in the 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on Ancestry.Com - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 year old Male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous page But pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location of Page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All-- In the 1880 Federal Census, David Harrison, his wife Mary E., and their children were shown in Wise County. I am told that David died in 1889, two years after the birth of his last child, and is buried in Wise County. My first question is, are death certificates available for this period? If so, how do I get one?? Secondly, while I have checked the lists of headstones, I have not found one listed for David Harrison. Does anybody have access to cemetery records that might show where he had been buried? Thanks for any help you can give me. Arthur Gamon in Oroville, CA.

There's one recorded birth for a George Henry Alexander and Mary Francis Daniels in 1884 on page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-A-C.htm Is that him? ALEXANDER George Henry (TN) DANIELS Mary Francis (TX) Mattie Ellis 07/30/84 F Decatur (11819) ----- Original Message ----- From: "sbrandon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [TXWISE] 1870s census > I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is in > the > 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on > Ancestry.com > - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 year > old > male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous page > but pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location of > page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I looked at the images of these pages, and I think the last name on page 10 is Walker. Then on page 11, its the same household but they didn't rewrite the last name, so the given name was Alexander. I'll send you the snip of these census pages in separate emails. I also pulled up ED 130, page 11 from the 1880 census and will send the Alexander family for you to look at. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Pitts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] 1870s census > Shelby, > Here is what I get on the 1880 Census. > > 1880 Census, Wise county Texas, Precinct 6, June 7, 1880, E. D. 130, > page 11 (handwritten), page 220 (stamped) > > line 23, dwelling 98 > > Alexander, G. H., W, M, age 29, Farmer, b. Ga, fb. VA, mb. VA > M. F., W, F, age 24, wife, keeping house, b. TX, fb. MO, mb. Ill > M. E., W, F, age 6, dau, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX > M. R. W, F, age 4, dau, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX > E. A., W, M, age 2, son, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX > K. B., W, F, 5/12, born Jan., dau, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX > > By the way I find them in the 1900 Census > 1900 Census, Hardeman County Texas, precinct 4, June 12, 1900, E. D. > 30, sheet 3b > > Line 98, dwelling 56 > > Alexander, George, W, M, b. Apr 1851, age 49, married 28 years, b. GA, > fb. VA, mb. SC, Stock FArmer > Mary F.,, wife, W, F,, b. Nov 1854, age 45, married 28 years, 9 > children, 9 living, b. TX, fb. KY, mb. Indiana > Katie B., dau, W, F, b. Jan, 1880, age 20, Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX > > sheet 4a > > line 1, dwelling 56 > Alexander, John W., son, W, M, Jan 1882, age18 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, > mb. TX > Martha A., dau, W, F, b. July 1884, age 15 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. > TX > Bessie M., dau, W, F, b. June 1886, age 13 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. > TX > Georgia e., dau, W, F, b. Aug 1889, age 10 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. > TX > Leia N., dau, W, F, b. May 1895, age 5 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX > > OK, I figured out what you were asking. In the 1870 Census on Ancestry, > if you Choose to browse by location (not using the Ancestry Search > Engine), > then choose Texas, then choose Wise county. The first page of precinct > 1 > shows on line 1 Alexander E. age 1, b. TX. This is for handwritten > page 11 > and stamped page 494. This page was recorded on Aug 9, 1870. > > Now what is interesting is that if you use the Ancestry search engine > you don't find any Alexander family members in Wise county in 1870. > Moreover, if you go to the Wise County web page and look in their > index for 1870 for Alexander, you don't find any there either. I think > you will need to look at the microfilm rolls to resolve this problem. > > David Pitts > Houston TX > > > > On Friday, April 6, 2007, at 07:12 PM, sbrandon wrote: > >> I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is >> in the >> 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on >> Ancestry.com >> - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 >> year old >> male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous >> page >> but pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location >> of >> page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Shelby, Here is what I get on the 1880 Census. 1880 Census, Wise county Texas, Precinct 6, June 7, 1880, E. D. 130, page 11 (handwritten), page 220 (stamped) line 23, dwelling 98 Alexander, G. H., W, M, age 29, Farmer, b. Ga, fb. VA, mb. VA M. F., W, F, age 24, wife, keeping house, b. TX, fb. MO, mb. Ill M. E., W, F, age 6, dau, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX M. R. W, F, age 4, dau, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX E. A., W, M, age 2, son, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX K. B., W, F, 5/12, born Jan., dau, at home, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX By the way I find them in the 1900 Census 1900 Census, Hardeman County Texas, precinct 4, June 12, 1900, E. D. 30, sheet 3b Line 98, dwelling 56 Alexander, George, W, M, b. Apr 1851, age 49, married 28 years, b. GA, fb. VA, mb. SC, Stock FArmer Mary F.,, wife, W, F,, b. Nov 1854, age 45, married 28 years, 9 children, 9 living, b. TX, fb. KY, mb. Indiana Katie B., dau, W, F, b. Jan, 1880, age 20, Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX sheet 4a line 1, dwelling 56 Alexander, John W., son, W, M, Jan 1882, age18 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX Martha A., dau, W, F, b. July 1884, age 15 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX Bessie M., dau, W, F, b. June 1886, age 13 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX Georgia e., dau, W, F, b. Aug 1889, age 10 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX Leia N., dau, W, F, b. May 1895, age 5 , Single, b. TX, fb. GA, mb. TX OK, I figured out what you were asking. In the 1870 Census on Ancestry, if you Choose to browse by location (not using the Ancestry Search Engine), then choose Texas, then choose Wise county. The first page of precinct 1 shows on line 1 Alexander E. age 1, b. TX. This is for handwritten page 11 and stamped page 494. This page was recorded on Aug 9, 1870. Now what is interesting is that if you use the Ancestry search engine you don't find any Alexander family members in Wise county in 1870. Moreover, if you go to the Wise County web page and look in their index for 1870 for Alexander, you don't find any there either. I think you will need to look at the microfilm rolls to resolve this problem. David Pitts Houston TX On Friday, April 6, 2007, at 07:12 PM, sbrandon wrote: > I am trying to find George Henry Alexander in the 1870 census. He is > in the > 1880 census for Wise County. In the 1870 Wise county census on > Ancestry.com > - the first page is page eleven. On that page the first line is a 1 > year old > male - E. Alexander. It is obviously a continuation from the previous > page > but pages 1 thru 10 are missing. Can anyone help me with the location > of > page 10? Thanks you. Shelby Brandon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >