I am looking for pictures of Wise county. I would especially love to see some old pictures of Alvord before the 1900s. My family lived in Adubon, but I doubt anyone has any pictures of Audubon. I know there was a photographer/studio in Alvord. Anyone have any pre 1900 pictures of any part of Wise county?

Millie, As you already knew Charley and Bertha are buried in Jonestown Cemetery. I also found the funeral home record for Bertha. I'm sending you copies of these images off list. Also I found that there are probate files for both of them. These data are only available through the Wise County Clerk. Note that Probate files can be thick and expensive to copy. Best Regards, David Pitts Headstones jonestown-014.jpg Barton, Bertha Jane Feb 10, 1890 May 13, 1972 Headstone with Charley T. jonestown-015.jpg Barton, Charley Truman Aug 31, 1885 November 21, 1946 Headstone with Bertha Jane Funeral Home Record c68-389.jpg Barton, Bertha Jane Yale Christian Funeral Home Probate Record Barton, C. T. Dec'd 7 112 2989 11/27/46 Barton, Bertha 9 493 4547 On Thursday, May 10, 2007, at 06:42 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > would be pleased to receive any info re Charles (or Charley) Truman > Barton, b.Aug. 31, 1885, d. in Wise Co. TX Nov. 21, 1946. buried at > Jonestown Cem. wife Bertha. also any info re descendants.. > > Millie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

would be pleased to receive any info re Charles (or Charley) Truman Barton, b.Aug. 31, 1885, d. in Wise Co. TX Nov. 21, 1946. buried at Jonestown Cem. wife Bertha. also any info re descendants.. Millie

Thanks, I'll put those Lee Roy and Albert names in our data. I'll change that one Drumgoole to Dromgoole. We have Phillip from Scotland and KY (not MS) and we have his wife as Mattie Funk from MO and Samantha Funk from OK. LOVE all this old data!!!!!! Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Hays" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [TXWISE] Dromgoole > Hi all, > > Thanks for passing on that information on birth records. This is actually > part of my family too. I've not explored any of the birth records yet. > > I can fill in a few of the blanks. > > Philip and Mattie are my 2nd great grand parents. I always thought Philip > was from Miss. and not Scotland. Hmmmm > > My great grand parents are Roy and Rosa. His full first name is actually > Lee Roy. > > The blank female child born in 1909 I've not identified. > The blank male child born in 1915, is my uncle Albert Dromgoole > > > Scott Hays > Economics Department > RH 508 > 6001 Dodge Street > Omaha, NE 68182-0048 > (402) 554-2570 > [email protected] > > > > "Sue Tackel" <[email protected]> > Sent by: [email protected] > 05/08/2007 01:00 PM > Please respond to > [email protected] > > > To > <[email protected]> > cc > > Subject > Re: [TXWISE] Dromgoole > > > > > > > I found the following Dromgoole birth records on page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-D-G.htm I didn't see any for > Joe > Bower?? > > DROMGOOLE C.D. BLANK blank blank 8/26/10 F blank > 5080 > DROMGOOLE C.D. MATHEWS Leatha blank 3/6/13 F blank 5664 > DROMGOOLE Phillip (Scotland) FUNK Mattie (MO) Coake 02/08/81 > M Alvord > (17612) > DROMGOOLE Roy BLANK Rosa blank 9/27/09 F blank > 4782 > DROMGOOLE Roy MATHEW Rosa blank 4/25/15 M blank > 6082 > DRUMGOOLE Phillip (KY) FUNK Samantha (OK) Zadie > 07/04/82 F Pella (18566) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan St. John" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:33 PM > Subject: [TXWISE] Dromgoole > > >>I am searching for Dromgoole in Wise County. >> >> For La Darla...the 1880 census 14-Sect 127 shows DROINGOOLE on the >> transcription but should read DROMGOOLE. Thank you so much for putting >> these pages together. >> >> I am specifically searching for Cortney Dromgoole who married Joe H >> Bower/s. She was dau of George Dromgoole and Amy Susannah/Susannah Amy >> Clark(AL) and sister of Philip Dromgoole. >> >> Susan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Wendy. I have a lot of this information already, but I will look in here and see if I can gleam anything new out of it. Speaking of pictures, I like to go to flea markets and buy other people's old stuff. I always see old pictures there which just make me sick. I wonder how many of our family's old pictures and personal items are sitting in a flea market and will never be known. I am glad that the Internet exists now and that people are willing to share photos of family and places from our past. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wendy Caldwell Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXWISE] William Summerfield Dobson and Harriet Evelyn Thornton Hi.. forgive me if this is a route you already have been down. I used rootsweb.com to find if there are any files on the family, and found several of them. One seems real extensive, and documented, especially concerning a list of known descendents. Here is a link to that file- http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=:2617666&id=I731 It seems like finding family gives you a good chance of finding any surviving pictures. And I love scanners.. people now can make copies of pics for relatives, where in the past, they might have been "hoarded" by one descendent. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 5/10/2007 7:04:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: From: _Connie Dabney_ (mailto:[email protected]) To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:03 AM Subject: Tunnell Info Dear Sue, How can I thank you? About 25 years ago I started looking for the death date and/or tombstone of Steven Tunnell, my gggrandfather. I knew he had to be buried in Wise county as that is where my grandmother was born. I started looking Before any cemeteries had been canvansed. I went twice to Wise county and looked in cemeteries. Of course, I didn't know which cemetery. ---- Now, 25 years later you have his tombstone and place of burial on the internet. Unbelievable!! Please keep up the good work!! Connie Lee Dabney ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Hi all, Thanks for passing on that information on birth records. This is actually part of my family too. I've not explored any of the birth records yet. I can fill in a few of the blanks. Philip and Mattie are my 2nd great grand parents. I always thought Philip was from Miss. and not Scotland. Hmmmm My great grand parents are Roy and Rosa. His full first name is actually Lee Roy. The blank female child born in 1909 I've not identified. The blank male child born in 1915, is my uncle Albert Dromgoole Scott Hays Economics Department RH 508 6001 Dodge Street Omaha, NE 68182-0048 (402) 554-2570 [email protected] "Sue Tackel" <[email protected]> Sent by: [email protected] 05/08/2007 01:00 PM Please respond to [email protected] To <[email protected]> cc Subject Re: [TXWISE] Dromgoole I found the following Dromgoole birth records on page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-D-G.htm I didn't see any for Joe Bower?? DROMGOOLE C.D. BLANK blank blank 8/26/10 F blank 5080 DROMGOOLE C.D. MATHEWS Leatha blank 3/6/13 F blank 5664 DROMGOOLE Phillip (Scotland) FUNK Mattie (MO) Coake 02/08/81 M Alvord (17612) DROMGOOLE Roy BLANK Rosa blank 9/27/09 F blank 4782 DROMGOOLE Roy MATHEW Rosa blank 4/25/15 M blank 6082 DRUMGOOLE Phillip (KY) FUNK Samantha (OK) Zadie 07/04/82 F Pella (18566) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan St. John" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [TXWISE] Dromgoole >I am searching for Dromgoole in Wise County. > > For La Darla...the 1880 census 14-Sect 127 shows DROINGOOLE on the > transcription but should read DROMGOOLE. Thank you so much for putting > these pages together. > > I am specifically searching for Cortney Dromgoole who married Joe H > Bower/s. She was dau of George Dromgoole and Amy Susannah/Susannah Amy > Clark(AL) and sister of Philip Dromgoole. > > Susan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 5/9/2007 7:54:29 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.ancestorhunt.com/obituary_search.htm Interesting.. but does everything go to Ancestry.com? Where they want us to join.. Ellie S. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

List, I'm sure many of you have been using these pages for a long time. http://www.ancestorhunt.com/ Just tonight we have been using the Obituary Search link on this page http://www.ancestorhunt.com/obituary_search.htm and have found several obits of interest. David Pitts Houston TX

We don't have very many of those old (delayed) ones from the 1800's. You can get them from the Wise County Records Office. They are $22 each. Address below: Sherry Parker Lemon County Clerk of Wise County PO Box 359 Decatur, TX 76234 Phone - 940-627-3351 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Pat King" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: [TXWISE] Birth Record > Hi, > Could you tell me how to obtain this birth record of Ada Bell below and > the cost. > Thank You, > Jimmie King > > CODY Elkin Foster (GA) ROBERTS Cally (TX) Ada Bell 05/29/77 F Wise Co > (5845) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi.. forgive me if this is a route you already have been down. I used rootsweb.com to find if there are any files on the family, and found several of them. One seems real extensive, and documented, especially concerning a list of known descendents. Here is a link to that file- http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=:2617666&id=I731 It seems like finding family gives you a good chance of finding any surviving pictures. And I love scanners.. people now can make copies of pics for relatives, where in the past, they might have been "hoarded" by one descendent. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Hi, Could you tell me how to obtain this birth record of Ada Bell below and the cost. Thank You, Jimmie King CODY Elkin Foster (GA) ROBERTS Cally (TX) Ada Bell 05/29/77 F Wise Co (5845)

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Susan, I thought you might be interested in the Dromgooles who are buried in the Riverside Cem. in Wichita Co. TX. They were all killed in a head on collision. You can find them on this list _http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/wichita/cemetery/riverside.txt_ (http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/wichita/cemetery/riverside.txt) If you are interested in headstone photos, just e mail me privately at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Julie In a message dated 5/8/2007 11:23:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am searching for Dromgoole in Wise County. For La Darla...the 1880 census 14-Sect 127 shows DROINGOOLE on the transcription but should read DROMGOOLE. Thank you so much for putting these pages together. I am specifically searching for Cortney Dromgoole who married Joe H Bower/s. She was dau of George Dromgoole and Amy Susannah/Susannah Amy Clark(AL) and sister of Philip Dromgoole. Susan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am a descendant of the William Summerfield and Harriet. I know a lot about them, but I only have one picture of WS Dobson. I would love to know if anyone has any other pictures of this man or his wife. The picture I have is of him with his daughter (I believe it to be Hattie Maude). I would also love to see pictures of the farm or anything else that might belong to the family. Does anyone have any pictures of the model of Audubon that was displayed in the museum? I would love to see those as well. I have started doing some research on the Dobsons above WS, but haven't gotten that far really. I would be glad to give anyone any info I have. My other email address is [email protected] (personal)

I found the following Dromgoole birth records on page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~drycreek/BC-D-G.htm I didn't see any for Joe Bower?? DROMGOOLE C.D. BLANK blank blank 8/26/10 F blank 5080 DROMGOOLE C.D. MATHEWS Leatha blank 3/6/13 F blank 5664 DROMGOOLE Phillip (Scotland) FUNK Mattie (MO) Coake 02/08/81 M Alvord (17612) DROMGOOLE Roy BLANK Rosa blank 9/27/09 F blank 4782 DROMGOOLE Roy MATHEW Rosa blank 4/25/15 M blank 6082 DRUMGOOLE Phillip (KY) FUNK Samantha (OK) Zadie 07/04/82 F Pella (18566) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan St. John" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [TXWISE] Dromgoole >I am searching for Dromgoole in Wise County. > > For La Darla...the 1880 census 14-Sect 127 shows DROINGOOLE on the > transcription but should read DROMGOOLE. Thank you so much for putting > these pages together. > > I am specifically searching for Cortney Dromgoole who married Joe H > Bower/s. She was dau of George Dromgoole and Amy Susannah/Susannah Amy > Clark(AL) and sister of Philip Dromgoole. > > Susan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for Dromgoole in Wise County. For La Darla...the 1880 census 14-Sect 127 shows DROINGOOLE on the transcription but should read DROMGOOLE. Thank you so much for putting these pages together. I am specifically searching for Cortney Dromgoole who married Joe H Bower/s. She was dau of George Dromgoole and Amy Susannah/Susannah Amy Clark(AL) and sister of Philip Dromgoole. Susan

Subj: Re: FYI - SANDLIN research in Wise Co. Texas Date: 5/3/2007 5:59:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time From: _LFSANDLIN_ (mailto:LFSANDLIN) (mailto:Darcolo) Here is what I have: JAMES M. SANDLIN b. ca. 1838 Mo. (33) d._________ ANCESTRY Jonathan (9) James (32) William (1) John (1) m. Nancy A. Anderson, 1870, Van Zandt County, Texas;, b. Oct 1849 Texas. Issue: Ada b. ca. 1874 Texas Andrew J. (3) Iola b. ca. 1880 Texas Census: Butler County,Mo. 1850. Hempstead County, Ark. 1860. Van Zandt County, Texas 1880. Served in Companies H & K, 11th & 17th Consolodated Arkansas Infantry during the Civil War. Van Zandt County, Texas Marriage Book 3, Jun 18, 1882, widow, Nancy remarried to James E. Parker These belong to the line of John Sandlin. Not our line which goes back to a Thomas Sandlin. Both John and Thomas were in NC about the same time (abt 1700) and in about the same place but no proof of any connection but logic says they probably are releated. I only keep info on the Thomas line which went from NC to GA to LA to TX. The John line went NC to KY to TX (maybe another stop along the way). There are two other main Sandlin lines. One went from NC to SC to AL and the other went NC to SC to FL. Milton Sandlin in Arlington TX is the keeper of the John line info. You can email him at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) and he'll help. Sorry I can't help more. Larry (mailto:[email protected]) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.