In a message dated 08/20/2000 7:31:03 PM Central Daylight Time, fdg@flash.net writes: << Now I know that if this Ed Garrison had been the natural father he wouldn't have had to get a letter of guardianship. >> Fred -- this is NOT a true statement !! I don't know if your Ed was these girls father, of course, but I have come across many instances of one parent or the other applying for guardianship of their own children after the spouse died. And, it is usually in re: the probate of an estate. Linda E.