Reading further in yesterday's Missing Links email, I came across this. Fascinating! James Pylant, if you're on this list, thanks much: "BOOK LINKS: DESTINY IN TEXAS Review by Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG Everyone has a few interesting ancestors and family skeletons, but James Pylant's family has more than the law should allow. In DESTINY IN TEXAS, he provides documented genealogies, a bit of history, some family secrets, and more than 100 photographs of various characters perched on his family tree. Among the colorful cast are: Julia Rubarth Campbell, mother of 21; the pipe-smoking midwife, Lucinda Hampshire Ladd Hughes; Indian fighter Joe Gurley; Lee Campbell, who hunted with Buffalo Bill; social climber Ada Stewart; and the scandalous Annah Gurley, whose husband, Sheriff Elijah Briant, shot and killed one of Butch Cassidy's cohorts. The book also reveals the bizarre web of fraud, bigamy, insanity, suicide, and murder surrounding Martha Rubarth's ruthless husband, R. W. Callahan, the founder of Sonora, Texas. Some of Pylant's families covered in this outstanding family history -- Hampshire, Lee, Rubarth, Garner, Kahla, Campbell, Pool, Callahan, Greenwood, Gurley and Tayloe [sic] -- lived in the same areas of Virginia, Louisiana, and Texas at about the same time period as many of my own ancestors. I was somewhat relieved to learn they did not intermarry. However, some descendants of the progenitor couple also amassed thousands of acres, founded towns in Texas, and produced judges, newspaper publishers, and ranchers. The book is divided into 20 chapters, each with a biographical history of a couple or individual, then a genealogical summary, and extensive notes and references. The collection of photographs is outstanding and adds greatly to this well-done family history. DESTINY IN TEXAS: DESCENDANTS OF JACOB HAMPSHIRE AND HANNAH LEE OF ST. MARTIN PARISH, LOUISIANA (softbound, 340 pp., illustrated, full-name index), compiled by James Pylant, is available ($35 postage-paid; Texas residents add 8.25% sales tax) from Datatrace Systems, P. O. Box 1587, Stephenville, TX 76401. (254) 965-6979; e-mail: datatrace@htcomp.net Web: http://www.genealogymagazine.com/desintexdeso.html

Probably not everyone subscribes to rootsweb's Missing Links mail list. Yesterday's email included the following about a Williamson Co. family. Enjoy: " THE SEARCH FOR DOUBLE-DEAD BOB by James Pylant datatrace@htcomp.net Family folklore claimed that my Prussian ancestor, Joseph RUBARTH, was the survivor of a shipwreck, a kidnapping by a pirate, and wars on two continents. Research proved these stories were highly embellished, if not completely fabricated. But the most compelling story in the RUBARTH family revealed itself in a paper trail, not oral history. Notes shared by a distant cousin showed that Joseph RUBARTH's daughter, Martha RUBARTH, had married (1) Robert M. WILEY and (2) R. W. CALLAHAN. These two men, the cousin wrote, were actually the same man. Proving that WILEY and CALLAHAN were one and the same was not difficult, because we had letters written by both WILEY and CALLAHAN. Clearly, these letters were penned by the same person. CALLAHAN's correspondence spoke of real estate acquired from his wife's first husband, WILEY, which showed there was something beyond a name change. Family history was scant about this branch of the family, only that WILEY was "a schoolteacher who was killed." No contemporary accounts were found of WILEY's alleged death, only a quote from a county historian's manuscript that Robert WILEY, "once a popular schoolteacher," had accidentally drowned. A search of court records revealed that WILEY was in debt to his former business partner. To protect vast land holdings, Robert and Martha WILEY "sold" the property to R. W. CALLAGHAN. (He would later dropped the "g" from CALLAGHAN.) Research into WILEY's background produced more surprises, including the fact that he was not even Robert M. WILEY. He was born Robert Wiley CALLAGHAN in Botetourt County, Virginia, in 1835. He stole the identity of his wealthy uncle, Robert M. WILEY, soon after abandoning his wife and children in Knox County, Illinois, in 1867. Later that year, CALLAGHAN (now WILEY) became a bigamist with his marriage to Martha RUBARTH in Williamson County, Texas. (His wife in Illinois divorced him for abandonment two years later.) After my long search came to a close, I asked a graphologist to analyze the handwriting of the letters penned by WILEY/CALLAHAN. Although the graphologist was given no details about the writer's background, his detailed report was uncanny. "I believe that WILEY (CALLAHAN) is a con man," he concluded. "He was a schemer. His mind was always working on plans to deceive others." Ultimately, CALLAHAN's schemes seemed to have taken their toll on his family. Martha Rubarth CALLAHAN died in an insane asylum at age 56, and their only son, Raymond CALLAHAN, committed suicide at age 22. The life of Robert CALLAHAN, alias Robert WILEY, which unfolded in my research, proved far more compelling than those fanciful family tales about my Prussian ancestor."

Please note that I have moved, been off-line for almost two months.(Severe Withdrawl!) and changed internet service providers (finally cable-yipee!). For those with whom I have been corresponding, please contact privately for snail mail address. Old email addy's: New email addy: carried@swbell.net orchid@sunflower.com carrie_d63@hotmail.com Researching: Walbrick/Wollbrueck, Fluhmann in Williamson Co. Carrie Thomas-Dominguez

Unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gang1173@aol.com> To: <TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:28 PM Subject: [TXWILLIA] Eric Lazarus Noble > Hi all, > I am searching for information on this Noble relative. He suppossedly was the > illegitimate son of Margie Edwards. He was born 9 April 1885, d. 7 Jan. > 1953;m. Myrtle Mae Roberts b. 28 Feb. 1889, d. 22 July 1960. They had a son > Joseph B. Noble b. 25 Jan. 1909 d. 17 Nov. 1971. All 3 are buried in Bagdad > cemetery, Leander, Tx. Could someone try to locate a birth certificate or > maybe a death certificate? Also, there is a Margie A. Noble buried in Elgin, > Tx. Any help with this brickwall would be deeply appreciated. > Sincerely, > Grace Noble Gipson >

Anybody know anything about a hotel in Coupland around the turn of the century? My grandfather Reinhold Robert Moehring was born in Coupland in 1893 and a distant relative casually mentioned to me yesterday that his parents, Wilhelm/William and Anna Flentge Moehring/Mohring from Washington County, ran a hotel in Coupland. Since Reinhold also went to school in Coupland, they were probably there for 8 or 9 years. This cousin showed me dishes that supposedly came from the hotel. Suzy Moehring Mallard Austin

Does anyone know about a HOBBS that married Mary DYCHES, widow of Josiah DYCHES in about 1891? Thanks. Jackie Morgan

I recently ran across an obit from Georgetown and wondered if someone who has been around that area for a good while could help me. This obit is for a Robert J. Stone. I am not sure of the date but it would have been before 1980. According to the obit the funeral was at the First Methodist Church and conducted by Rev. Thomas B. Granger & Rev. Edmund Heinsohn. It says that Mr. Stone was born in Chapel Hill and that he came to Georgetown as a young man and opened a photo studio there which he ran for 61 yrs. He then turned it over to a Lee Carr. Does anyone remember this photo studio and Mr. Stone? Is Lee Carr still in business there? Was Mr. Stone buried in Georgetown or in Washington Co? I would appreciate any help that you might be able to give me on Robert J. Stone. (Mr. Stone's wife may have been named Tula ). Thanks so much! Beth Meriwether

Hello, I am proud to announce the creation of a new mail list called TX-Cemeteries. This list has the encouragement of Gerron S. Hite, Cemetery Preservation Coordinator in the History Programs Division of the Texas Historical Commission and he's excited at the opportunity to share his feelings about our cemetery preservation to a large group all at once Others that have been notified, Lee Campbell, Past Representative for the Texas State Genealogical Society {and my cousin} and her friend, Past President of the TSGS Wanda Donaldson. I've let all the following people know about the list and they may join from time to time. Yvonne Pickens, current President of the TSGS. Trey Holt, coordinator for the Texas GenWeb. Wyndell Taylor, creator of GA Cherokee County GenWeb page, {and my cousin}. <Smile> I just have a lot of cousins !!!! The main focus of this list will be to locate and catalogue our endangered cemeteries. Gerron Hite has obtained a new program to help us give our cemeteries "Historic Texas Cemetery Designation". He is willing to help us learn how to accomplish this designation. This will also be a topic for us to address. I am an experienced RootsWeb mail list admin. Currently I manage the mail list for VARoots, SC-Old Pendleton-District, and the Brand surname list. I am also experienced in the survey of large and small cemeteries. In addition to the topics above there will be discussions on how to preserve and restore old monuments with the help of a caretaker with over 25 years experience. To join the mail list simply send a message to TX-Cemeteries-L-request@rootsweb.com with only the word subscribe in the subject line and nothing else. If you prefer the Digest send a message to TX-Cemeteries-D-request@rootsweb.com with only the word subscribe in the subject line and nothing else. I look forward to seeing you there, Respectfully, donna brand

see? I must have learned SOMETHING <G> Thanks Linda LREMRY@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 08/26/2000 2:31:56 PM Central Daylight Time, fdg@flash.net > writes: > > << I've calculated September 26, 1838. >> > The date calculator in PAF also comes up with September 26, 1838.

A cousin of mine died October 24, 1907 at the age of 69 years and 28 days. Exactly when in 1838 was she have been born? I've calculated September 26, 1838.

In a message dated 08/26/2000 2:31:56 PM Central Daylight Time, fdg@flash.net writes: << I've calculated September 26, 1838. >> The date calculator in PAF also comes up with September 26, 1838.

Does anyone know anything about the Tom and Nancy Robinson family in Taylor from about the 1880s until they died in the twenties and forties. But then some of their children are still there. Nancy ROBINSON was a BRYAN, daughter of James and Susan BRYAN. Thanks for any help. Jackie Morgan

Thanks Patti Pattiluu2u@aol.com wrote: > > Just a note - in Dallas, Tarrant, Harris, Denton, Travis, etc., all > probate is filed in the county court; District Court filings would be a rare > exception to a hard and fast rule. > > Patti

Thanks Patti, we do appreciate all the information you have forwarded to us.. Thanks again charlotte Pattiluu2u@aol.com wrote: > Yes, I agree, that District Court and County Courts are two very separate > entities. However, since many of the smaller counties don't have separate > probate courts > (The counties mentioned- and others- in my previous fax do file guardianships > in the probate courts - strange, I know.), these counties file them in County > Court(s) at Law. Guardianships are usually filed in the countries where the > ward resides. There are exceptions to every rule, that's for sure. But I > work with the probate courts and county courts everyday in a great number of > Texas counties. The information I am sharing is what has been acquired over > a period of 16 years on my own - and by osmosis from my father who spent 14 > years working in the Dallas probate courts. > > Patti

Well guess what? I called again and gave the lady ALL the information I had. I even read the Letter of Guardianship word for word to her. It was getting close to 5:00 which is their closing time. She explained to me that I had been asking for the wrong name all along. Instead of asking for the papers on the person who applied for guardianship, I should have asked for the papers regarding the minors the application was over, but that it was to late today because the computers had already been shut down and for me to call again tomorrow. GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr Genealogy is SO much fun!! <g> Fred LREMRY@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 08/21/2000 2:15:06 PM Central Daylight Time, fdg@flash.net > writes: > > << I called the County > Clerk's office in Clarksville, >> > > One last word on guardianships <G>? My experience has been that (in Texas) > guardianships (and probates) are filed in the DISTRICT COURT, not the County > Court. Now, in the smaller county seats, these records MAY be all in one > office. But, for example, in Williamson County, County & District Courts are > two distinct entities. > > Linda E. > >

All county business is conduct at county courthouses. Ask the County Clerk for assistance. Duane ----- Original Message ----- From: <fdg@flash.net> To: <TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [TXWILLIA] GARRISON surname; Red River Co. Tx 1891 | Duane.... | It's the "Application for Guardianship" I'm looking for. I'm not sure that | would be in the probate record. At least it wasn't in the records here in | Williamson Co. where the Will was being probated. | Any more ideas? I'm sure open to them right now. :^) | | Fred | | | On Mon Aug 21 11:10:27 2000, TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com wrote: | | > Try the County courthouse for probate records | > | > Duane Windsor | > Carson City, NV | > duanewin@gateway.net | > my Windsor -Hunt Web Site | > http://WindsorFamilyGenealogy.homestead.com/index.html | > | > =================== | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: <fdg@flash.net> | > To: <TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> | > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:54 AM | > Subject: Re: [TXWILLIA] GARRISON surname; Red River Co. Tx 1891 | > | > | Yep..... | > | I have a question for you. If you work in Texas probate where or who do I | > | contact to get the Application for Guardianship in Clarksville, Red River | > Co., | > | Texas? | > | | > | Fred | > | | > | | > | On Mon Aug 21 10:41:05 2000, TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com wrote: | > | | > | > Hi, all. | > | > Don't mean to butt in here, but I work in Texas probate. | > | > | > | > If you are the natural parent of a child, you are by law the | > guardian | > | > of his person. However, if the child comes into an estate (by whatever | > | means | > | > - inheritance, lawsuit proceeds, ins.proceeds, etc., a guardian of the | > | > ESTATE must be appointed to manage the estate of the minor. No parent, | > | > natural or otherwise, is the guardian of | > | > their child's estate unless appointed by law (a court appointment with | > | > standards set for qualification, etc.). I'm open for questions, if you | > have | > | > any. | > | > | > | > Patti RIchardson | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |

Yes, I agree, that District Court and County Courts are two very separate entities. However, since many of the smaller counties don't have separate probate courts (The counties mentioned- and others- in my previous fax do file guardianships in the probate courts - strange, I know.), these counties file them in County Court(s) at Law. Guardianships are usually filed in the countries where the ward resides. There are exceptions to every rule, that's for sure. But I work with the probate courts and county courts everyday in a great number of Texas counties. The information I am sharing is what has been acquired over a period of 16 years on my own - and by osmosis from my father who spent 14 years working in the Dallas probate courts. Patti

Just a note - in Dallas, Tarrant, Harris, Denton, Travis, etc., all probate is filed in the county court; District Court filings would be a rare exception to a hard and fast rule. Patti

OK Carl, thanks for the phone number. It was right on. For everyone else out there who has been following this, I called the County Clerk's office in Clarksville, Red River County only to find out that there is NO application for guardianship by ANY Garrison anywhere in her database. Oh well......... On Mon Aug 21 14:04:43 2000, TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > Everton's Handy Book gives the phone number as (903)427-2401. Best wishes to > you... > Carl cwilli@flash.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <fdg@flash.net> > To: <TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, 21 August, 2000 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: [TXWILLIA] GARRISON surname; Red River Co. Tx 1891 > > > Thanks Patti ~ > > Now I've found the address: > > > > Red River County Clerk's Office > > 200 N. Walnut > > Clarksville, TX 75425 > > > > Does anyone know the phone number? > > > > > > On Mon Aug 21 12:32:07 2000, TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > For copies of all documents in this matter, contact the county clerk > where > > > papers were filed (usually county where applicant/guardian or ward/minor > > > resides). > > > > > > Patti > > > > > > > > > > > >

Everton's Handy Book gives the phone number as (903)427-2401. Best wishes to you... Carl cwilli@flash.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <fdg@flash.net> To: <TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 21 August, 2000 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [TXWILLIA] GARRISON surname; Red River Co. Tx 1891 > Thanks Patti ~ > Now I've found the address: > > Red River County Clerk's Office > 200 N. Walnut > Clarksville, TX 75425 > > Does anyone know the phone number? > > > On Mon Aug 21 12:32:07 2000, TXWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > For copies of all documents in this matter, contact the county clerk where > > papers were filed (usually county where applicant/guardian or ward/minor > > resides). > > > > Patti > > > > > >