I found this on Goliad's website, didn't even know of it. I was happily surprised. If you've not seen this really nice two pages of info on Victoria Tours which has information and pictures, please look at them, and while you are about it, please look at the nice page of tours they have also done for Goliad. Holiday Inn did the pages as advertisement, but it sure is good for all of us. If you can't come here yourself, do the next best thing, and look at the area via "wwwcamera". Thanks, Goliad GenWebbers, for putting that out where I stumbled over it! bj, listmanager Here's the pages, beginning with the ad, and info re the tours, then the separate pages: http://www.victoriatx.com/holidayinn/tours.html (About it all) http://www.victoriatx.com/holidayinn/tour1.html (Historic Homes) http://www.victoriatx.com/holidayinn/tour3.html (Rose & Botanical Garden, Zoo) http://www.victoriatx.com/holidayinn/tour2.html (Goliad Tour)