This was on the Rootslist notices. Interesting. bj IRISH SURNAMES. <http://www.goireland.com/genealogy/>

Thought you'd want to know that Doris Obsta, Editor in Charge of the Victoria County History Book Project, and other VCGS members have gone today to Austin to sign the formal contract for our book. Meanwhile, you might want these notes passed along to you. Yes, you may still submit via computer, even, to Doris Obsta, Editor, at bobsta@viptx.net your story for our book, THROUGH 31 MARCH only. After that, it's too late, the door is shut. You can send your entire article, pictures included, via comp, if you like, or through ground mail, if you think it can make it in, in time, if you are out of town. She said please contact her at the above email, as the College office computer and phone is busy, busy, and it might not get through. She is working at home on the project also, and will catch your articles there, for certain. This will be a two volume, at least, set of hard back books, navy blue cover, I'm told, and will have over 1000 stories in it, as of now. There are huge histories of businesses, and old places now gone, that dedicated helpers have hunted up material on, for the books. It will have an everyname index, and will be sold at an advanced sales price of $80.00 per set, but when that offer is closed, sets will be sold for $125.00 per set. You may want to go ahead and get your set ordered now. We don't know when the prepublication price will end yet, or at least, I'm not aware of it. They WILL let everyone know, though, pre closing of the prepub price. Probably via our website or email list here, and in the Advocate, I would think. Eakin Publishing of Austin, a division of it, will be doing the book for us. ( Northwest something or other, division of Eakin, I forget.) It's a reputable company. The letter on the book has gone out to all who preordered the book. I can't tell you anymore than this, and hope I have it all straight. You need to email Doris if you have further questions re the book. I haven't any other information. Shipping will be $10.00 EXTRA, if you want them shipped. Be sure and send along the extra cost listed below, if there is any, and your check made out to VCGS for 80.00 or if shipping it, 90.00, and your article if you are submitting it. Send your mail to VCGS, P.O. Box 413, Victoria, TX, 77902-0413. Send your email submission of articles to Doris Obsta, VCGS BOOK EDITOR, bobsta@viptx.net We may be putting a form online on our website, http://www.viptx.net/vcgs shortly, if it's not there already. ***You will recall you are allowed two pages, double spaced, courier size 10 font, and you need to also send along an index for it, not included in your article two pages. You are allowed free one picture of a single column width, and if you want more pictures, or wider column pictures, those cost $5.00 more. Extra lines of print cost 40 cents per line. You may use as many photos or lines/pages as you like, it just costs you for it. Two pages and one picture is free, as mentioned here. Hurry, WE can still make the deadline, and I do mean WE!! (one done, one almost, and one in the works, boy, am I busy!) This is my last transmission on the subject, I have to get busy and type, MINE. bj

I saw the above site in one of Shari Simond's Sunday Victoria Advocate columns, which deal with various sorts of computer online sites and include some internet genealogy. She's mentioned this one, and it's of Victoria TXVICTOR-L interest. http://home.viptx.net/~stmary/ This is a good site to look at the oldest Victoria Catholic Church built in early Victoria. It has pictures of it as it changed through the years. I think it's interesting, it has a history of it online, plus a couple of their beautiful stained glass windows. (Wish they had shown all of them!) You might want take a peek at this nice site, especially if your roots here are early Catholic, or even if you aren't of Catholic lineage, I bet you like looking at it. It's a beautiful church, inside and out, and the pictures here show all of that. http://www.net-dispatch.net/ While I'm here, let me mention to you more about Shari, who publicized the St. Mary's page. She has an online column at the above site. If you haven't looked at Shari Simond's Victoria Advocate column, or if you can't get the paper with her computer articles, you can at least find her online at the above address. She's a top-notch computer person, and a TOP online genealogist, too. She doesn't do genealogy research work for anyone, though, nor answer questions about our families. Just thought I'd mention that so she won't get requests for searches. Shari Simond's most recent article on genealogy is http://www.net-dispatch.net/archives/10-march-2000.html Her other pages with computer articles are located at her Archives page http://www.net-dispatch.net/archives/ where you will see as you scan the list some other genealogy articles. Have fun! (and thanks, Shari, for your regular help to us computer user folk, via that column) bj

Maranatha Book Store is currently pricing a German Bible (published in the 1700's) for sale. It sounds like a real find.

Wondered if you all saw this notice come from Ancestry?...bj TENNESSEE CONFEDERATE PENSION APPLICATION INDEX ONLINE http://www.ancestry.com/learn/columns/dailyarchive/03-06-00.htm#5 The Tennessee State Library and Archives has added an index to TN Confederate Pension Application files to its site.

Received this from another list. Thanks Bobbie. Dorathy > > Male & Female Nicknames (Source Unknown) > > Nickname Christian Name(s) > Bell, Bella, Belle Arabelle, Anabelle, Isabel, Isabella, Rosabel > Bess, Bessie Elizabeth > Beth Elizabeth > Betsy, Betty Elizabeth > Bitsy Elizabeth > Bob, Bobby Robert > Cindy Cinthia, Cynthia, Lucinda > Daisy Margaret > Delia Adelia, Adele, Cordelia > Dick Richard > Dobbin Robert > Dode, Dody Dorothy, Theodore, Theodorick > Dora Dorothy, Eudora, Theodora > Ed, Eddie, Eddy Edgar, Edmund, Edward, Edwin, Edwina > Effie, Effy Euphemia > Eliza Elizabeth > Greta Margaret, Margaretha > Ella, Ellie Eleanor, Elenora > Fannie, Fanny Frances > Frankie Frances (female), Francis (male), Franklin > Genie Eugenia > Hal Harold, Henry > Hank Henry > Harry Henry > Hattie Harriet(t) > Hettie Esther, Henrietta, Hester > Jack, Jackie John > Jamie James, Jameson > Jenny Jane, Janet, Jeanette, Jennett, Virginia > Jim, Jimmy James > Jock John > John, Johnnie, Johnny John > Kate, Katie, Katy Katherine Kathie Katherine > Kit, Kitty Katherine > Kay Katherine > Lena Angelina, Helena, Magdalena, Paulina, Selena, et al > Lettie Letitia > Libby Elizabeth > Lina Angelina, Helena, Magdalena, Paulina, Selena, et al > Lisa, Lise Elizabeth Liz, Lizzie, Elizabeth > Lucy Lucinda > Madge Margaret > Maggie Margaret > Maisie Margaret, Mary > Mamie Mary > Marty, Martie Martha > Mattie Martha > May Mary > Midge Margaret > Meg, Megan Margaret > Meta Margaret > Millie, Milly Amelia, Mildred > Moll, Mollie, Molly Mary > Nell, Nellie, Nelly Eleanor, Elenora, Ellen, Helen > Nora Elenore, Elenora, Honora, Honoria > Ollie Olive, Olivia, Oliver > Patsy, Patty Patricia, Patience, Martha > Peg, Peggy Margaret > Penny Penelope > Polly Mary > Rich, Richy Richard > Rob, Robbie, Robby Robert > Robin Robert > Sadie Sarah > Sallie, Sally Sarah > Sammy Samuel, Samson, Samantha > Sukie, Suchie, Suchy Susan, Susanna, Susannah > Tad Theodore, Theodorick > Ted, Teddy Edward > Theo Theodore, Theodorick > Tilly Temperance > Tillie Matilda, Mathilda > Tina Christina > Trina Catharine > Vicy Lewvisa > Winnie Winefred, Winifred (both male and female) > > ____ > The following list of nicknames vs. given names is from the publication > :Harlan Connections, " by Frances Y. Dunham of the University of Florida, > and has a 1987 copywrite. Today's popular forms such as Bob, Brit, Tom, > Abby,Becky, Debby, etc. are not included here. > > Nickname Given Name Nickname Given Name > > Aley Elias Leck Alexander > Alsey Alice Lige Elijah > Anna Hannah Lindy Malinda > Anna Johannah Lish Elisha > Anna Susanna Lottie Charlotte > App Absalom Lovey Malova > Arthur Merriarter Lucy Lucinda > Betsy Elizabeth Mack Mc > Biddy Obedience Marica America > Bige Abijah Matt Mathias > Bitha Tobitha Matt Matthew > Cager Micajah Mila Camilla > Celey Drucilla Mima Jemima > Cephus Josephus Minta Araminta > Chilles Achilles Mollie Mary > Cindy Lucinda Neely Cornelius > Daimy Didama Nellie Eleanor > Delia Cordelia Nervie Minerva > Delia Delila Nicey Eunice > Docia Theodocia Omey Naomi > Dyer Jebediah Patsy Marsha > Eliza Louisa Peggy Margaret > Fannie Frances Pole Napoleon > Frank Francis Polly Mary > Haley Mahala Rena Elvirina > Hannah Johanna Rena Lurena > Hetty Hester Rinda Clarinda > Hetty Esther Rinda Lurinda > Hezzie Hezekiah Robin Robert > High Hiram Rushia Jerusha > Hugh Elihu Sally Sarah > Jack John Sire Josiah > Jack Jackson Thee Theophilus > Jake Jacob Thena Barthena > Jenny Jane Tildy Matilda > Jerry Jeremiah Vaney Levava > Josey Joyce Vaney Sylvania > Judah Judith Viney Calvina > Katie Catherine Viney Lavina > Kiar Hezekiah Viney Malvina > Kizzy Keziah Za Isaiah > Zeke Ezekiel

This site came to me from a friend, and it's very interesting. I've included the notations that came to me, with it. As for my own experience with the page, (differing from the note) I popped in some seven names, and NONE showed up. You'll notice at the top that there's another site to follow, and if you do, it takes you to one to fill in info for a different search, then comes up with a $39.00 charge to get it the record. I sort of think maybe the lack of information on the first page of "anybirthday.com" is an enticement to get you to go to the OTHER page, where you will have to pay. Use your own judgment. I think it's a come-on site, myself. I would never put out the money for a search, even though they are using public records for their information. Quite legal, and there are other sites that do the same. So, no need to get in a tizzy, our names are out there everywhere, and as genealogists, that's the real idea of hunting family, getting the names out to the public. This site might really help someone who is willing to pay, so I won't down it a lot, but I recommend you take it with a grain of salt. bj <snip>a website that lists everyone and their birthdays. It is http://www.anybirthday.com/ I have already deleted many of my family members. If you do not want your family members listed here are the steps to delete them. At the main page go to the bottom of the page, click on FAQ. On the next page go to How Can I remove and click privacy statement. On the next page scroll down to "Opt Out Option." Click on it. It will take you to the page to delete yourself and family members. You will need the persons first & last name, birthrate and zip code to delete. To remove more family, repeat the steps.

With thanks to a friend who sent this along to several of us, I'm sending it to you. I see the map has incorrect site locations for some of the locations in Victoria, but at least they're listed! They got the general vicinity right, though. bj Texas Historic Sites <http://atlas.thc.state.tx.us/atlas/atlas_search_frame.html>

Website is just that, a group who have posted the names of books they own. You might want to visit. Bj http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/index.html

Victoria was lucky, we never had our court house burned down. We have: County Clerk has birth & death records from 1903, marriage, probate and civil court and land records from 1838 and District Clerk has divorce records. Patsy Hand TThom1217@aol.com wrote: > > how far back do marriage records go back? > > searching for Wade, Greggs and Thompson

Did you all see this maps website? If you type in a town, like the other similar map programs, it lets you zero down on the area, with two resizers on the bottom right. The navigation arrows work like all the others, too. Bj http://www.maptech.com/

how far back do marriage records go back? searching for Wade, Greggs and Thompson

Billye, where can we get a price list for the victoria County History Books and an order form? I would like to order at pre publication prices. Jeane Bitterly -----Original Message----- From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com <TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 2:58 AM Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #26

Another site just sent along, TX Confederate Pensions located at the Texas State Library. Check it out. Has a searchable data base, don't forget to put in the variant name spellings, never know if it might be hiding under another phonic spelling! Lots of sites are like that, you have to check on every spelling you can think of, the machines won't do it for us. Thanks, cuz, for the site. Bj http://isadore.tsl.state.tx.us/c/compt/index.html

Dear Listers As usual, I've let some notes pile up here on sites sent me of late, which we may or may not have looked at. I just need to get myself up to date, and let you check them out for yourselves. Hoping your day is going GREAT. Don't forget, the DEAD, DEAD, DEADline for the county book history entries is, as Editor in Charge Doris Obsta says, is 31 March, and not one word later, so HURRY UP. She also said in our own Dr. Martha Jones' Genealogical Column in the Sunday paper yesterday that due to a publisher change there will be three volumes for your same dollar amount of investment, if you want to buy the books. Lucky us, more for the money! You better hurry up! (me, too) Thank each of you who sent one of these sites, the list appreciates you, too. PLEASE don't forget to post your VICTORIA QUERIES, and thanks to you who have done so in recent days. It is what we're here in this space for, don't forget. Meanwhile, here goes. Bj, listmanager TXVICTOR-L National Archives, 1930 Census Info http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/1930cen.html Emigrants Savings Bank http://www.genexchange.com/esb/ Free Forms, all sorts http://www.ancestrycorner.com/ Microsoft eXtreme sessions, free, and even software plus a computer giveaway! Coming to your area, maybe. Check here for time and locations. http://www.microsoft.com/extreme/ Migrations HomePage ( I notice they need a co-coordinator for Victoria County, and maybe your own if you live in another county. Any takers?) http://homepages.go.com/~lc123/migrations/index.html

Ok List, Here is something Billye has been trying to get us to do. While reading some of old posts, which I had saved because of the good sites, I came across one she was encouraging us to send in information to the list. So here is my contribution and query, somewhat late though. Mathew G. Bobbitt and his wife Martha Williams Bobbitt, and their first four children moved into Victoria County in 1856 from Gibson Co., Tennessee. The family eventually settled on land in Western Victoria Co. towards Meyersville in DeWitt Co. Two more known children were born in Victoria Co. The children of Mathew and Martha Bobbitt were James Robert Bobbitt, born 1849, Gibson Co., Tenn. and married Martha Ann Adcock (born 1851, Alabama) March 29, 1870, Victoria, Texas. Virginia Ann Bobbitt, born 1851, Gibson Co., Tenn., married R. M. Seaton on April 30, 1867, Victoria Co., Texas. Sallie W. Bobbitt, born 1853, Gibson Co., Tenn, married W. H. Baker, May 15 1875, Victoria, Texas. Samuel M. Bobbitt, born 1855, Gibson Co., Tenn., married Mary V. Waggoner July 4, 1877, Victoria, Texas Thomas W. Bobbitt, born 1857, Victoria Co., Texas, married Florence A. Teuton, Sept. 8 1881, Goliad Co., texas Jerimiah Summerfield Bobbitt, born 1861, Victoria Co., Texas married Katie Alice ? about 1882. Not sure where. Possibly Jack Co., Texas. Martha Williams Bobbitt died 1865, Victoria Co., Texas Mathew G. Bobbitt married a second time on Nov. 30, 1876, Victoria, Texas. to Margaret Coolety, born 1835 Tenn. She was the sister of a Minister of the Gospel who had settled in Western Victoria Co. from Tennessee. Anyone having any information on these people and would like to share information, please let me know. Thanks David Hooper

Hi, Received this from another list we are on, it made me stop & think about the pictures that I haven't had time to ID yet--think I had better make the time! Dorathy STRANGERS IN THE BOX (Author Unknown) > > > > Come, look with me inside this drawer, > > In this box I've often seen, > > At the pictures, black and white, > > Faces proud, still, and serene. > > > > I wish I knew the people, > > These strangers in the box, > > Their names and all their memories, > > Are lost among my socks. > > > > I wonder what their lives were like, > > How did they spend their days? > > What about their special times? > > I'll never know their ways. > > > > If only someone had taken time, > > To tell, who, what, where, and when, > > These faces of my heritage, > > Would come to life again. > > > > Could this become the fate, > > Of the pictures we take today? > > The faces and the memories, > > Someday to be passed away? > > > > Take time to save your stories, > > Seize the opportunity when it knocks, > > Or someday you and yours, > > Could be strangers in the box.

I received the following message from another list I belong to, thought it might be of interest to some of you. Dorathy Luedecke Hardie Assistant Co. Coordinator Goliad Co. TX For all that order books from Virginia at Abbeville Books. I just spoke with her and she is closing on March 15th, she will take orders up until then but will not do any backorders (only what she has in stock). She has many books that I have not found elsewhere and is the sweetest lady you would ever want to meet. I just ordered the updated version of the David Rush Family from her and need many many more. To view the books she has here is the address: http://www.abbevillebooks.com/genealog.htm

I see on this site an access to numerous history books, and others. I saw none dealing with family tree research. Histories of "whatever" will probably be most useful to that purpose, but it sure does have a lot to offer on other subjects. bj The Online Books Page http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/

I received a call from a gentleman helping someone on a book about the burial sites of Confederate officers, Col. and above. He is looking for info on Col. John Stocks, 7th Tenn. Calv. supposedly buried in Calhoun County. That is all the info he has. Any lead on this as Stocks, Stock, etc. Would be helpful to him. Thanks Ron Sandidge -- HEAR ME>> http://pagoo.com/signature/rons