Beginner Genealogy Workshop The public is invited to attend a seminar hosted jointly by Victoria County Genealogical Society and Guadalupe Victoria DAR, on Saturday, 8 July 2000, to be held at the Latter Day Saints (LDS) Church Hall, located at 3408 N. Ben Wilson St., Victoria. Mrs. Travis T. (Ella) Sheffield, noted DAR genealogist, will present a genealogy workshop entitled "The Dash", to be held in two sessions. The first session will be "Beginner Genealogy Research", 9-12 a.m. The second session, from 1-3 p.m., will be "Filling in DAR Applications". Methods taught in this session will also apply to the filling in of most lineage applications. Cost is $5.00 for both sessions, or $3.00 for a single session. Specify which, if you will be attending a single session. To reserve a place, send your name, check, and sessions to be attended to VCGS-GVDAR Workshop, c/o 3004 Coffey St., Victoria, TX 77901-7427. Call 361-573-9415 for further information. Surrounding County Mail Lists, please copy. Thank you, TXVICTOR-L, VCGS & GVDAR -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #68 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:30 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JUw25837 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:30 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JVO16972 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:31 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JVO16972@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #68 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/68 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 68 Today's Topics: #1 Victoria Beginner Genealogical Wor ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Looking to contact Mrs. W.N. Noble or her descendants of Bloomington. Last known alive in 1937. Thanks for any help. Jackie -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #67 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:29 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JTw25798 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:29 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JUX16968 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:30 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JUX16968@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #67 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/67 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 67 Today's Topics: #1 Sharp family ["jp55" <jp55@wt.net>] #2 Looking for descendants ["jp55" <jp55@wt.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Looking for the burial of Addison Sharp, resident of Bloomington - died aroudn 1905. Also any other members of the Sharp or Dodson family buried near him. Thanks. Jackie

Marilyn Logan sent this. She's been posting some Victoria newspaper extractions on it. Some articles she's sent in for it aren't posted there yet. Keep watching, who knows who might be in it. Also, notice there is a box leading to Offline Links at the bottom of the state categories, which leads to another newspaper page. Mel, maybe you might want to send copies of the submissions to Cynthia Buttram for use on the county website? Let me put in a plug here for the Victoria website, too. If any of you have general Victoria information, send it to buttram@viptx.net if it might help everyone searching Victoria. Cynthia will try to make room for general information on Victoria, I know. This Newspapers Online is a fairly new site, but maybe some county/state you want might have a bit for you. Try it? bj http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.html -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #66 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:28 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JSw25758 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:28 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JTn16952 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:29 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JTn16952@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #66 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/66 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 66 Today's Topics: #1 Elusive Death Records [Hdanw@aol.com] #2 FHC Memorandum 31 May 2000 [Bowen Family <roc3177a@viptx.NET>] #3 Newspapers online ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

We just received the new compact disc version of the Family History Library Catalog on CD-ROM. It includes catalog entries as of March 2000. It can also be purchased for home use from the Distribution Center (item #50081) for $5.00. Distribution Center Telephone: 1-800-537-5971 Hours are Mon-Fri 8 AM to 4:30 PM (Mountain Time). System Requirements: Windows 95/98/NT 4.0+ Pentium processor or higher 8 MD RAM minimum (16 MD recommended) CD-ROM drive (4x minimum recommended) VGA monitor with 256 color-capable video card 4 MB hard-disc space Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 or higher The DISC: Describes the Church's collection of family history materials, which consists of over 2.5 million microforms and 300,000 books (catalog entries as of March 2000) Adds searches by keyword, title, author, and call number in addition to the place, surname, subject, and film number searches. Lets users mark information for easy future retrieval. Maintains a search history of records reviewed during each session. Questions on this can be directed to the Family History Support at 1-801-240-2584 or 1-800-346-6044.

To Listers searching Death Records, I second Billye D. Jackson's comments about elusive birth and death records, particularly in Victoria Co. I wanted to join a lineage society and needed death records of Victoria residents to document dates and relationships. I discussed one of the problems with my uncle while we were in the Victoria Co. courthouse. He pulled open a drawer in the courthouse and came up with his mother's death record. She had died when he was born ca 1905. At a later date, my cousin took me back to the courthouse to find our common great-grandfather's and great-grandmother's death record--no dice, although we found another certificate which we were not expecting to find. We were dispatched to the City Hall--there the death records were. Also, in the early 1900s few births were recorded. I wrote to the TX Bureau of Vital Records (or whatever it is now called) and came up with delayed (note that word) birth certificates filed in the 1940s, although both persons were born in 1900. Seems that everyone got these in the 1940s to file for Social Security (or in the case of a male, perhaps to prove he was too old for WW II draft!!!) Death certificates and birth records, like naturalization records, seem to be where you can find them--in my experience. And don't assume that all persons who resided in Victoria Co. died there. San Antonio, TX was a great (no, that's not the adjective I should use) place of death for many persons as far south as the Rio Grande River--why--because it was/is a huge medical center. Wanda Payne Hoad's transcriptions of cemeteries (at least of Evergreen) is also a wonderful help!!! Well, enough of this. This is based on my personal genealogical experience, stemming from prowling courthouses in Southwest Texas!!! E.W.Wallace whose ancestors were in Victoria ca 1836 on!!!

This came in another list. I might make a personal comment, re Texas, at least. I was born right here in Victoria County in 1935. The search engine cannot find me, whether I use Exact, Soundex, or Metaphone search style. So, I thought I'd mention that if the person you are after does not show in this database (my brother, born here, is in it), then write anyway to the county you believe the records are in. I can guarantee you that my birth record is in our downtown county record book, I've got a copy and viewed it myself, in the county vital records birth books. There are death records in the county, same place. There must be many records still in the counties that aren't, and may never be, in the state records. We've been told many times to check the counties if they aren't at state archives. This database is just a case in point for us to look there, if your person isn't in these. Shoot, I feel bad no one can find me here, if they wanted to. Well, California and Texas are on, hope you find yours! bj The following Vital Records for California are now online for the years 1905 - 1995: Birth: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/birth/search.cgi Death: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi For Texas the following records are online: Birth - 1926 - 1995; Marriages - 1966 - 1997; Divorces: 1968 - 1997; Deaths: 1964 - 1998: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/graphics/texas.html There are search engines for both so one can look up all of a particular surname or whatever other criteria you may wish to use. Be SURE and use the soundex and metaphone searches, EXACT can miss your person. -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #65 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:27 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JRw25720 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:27 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JS816948 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:28 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JS816948@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #65 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/65 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 65 Today's Topics: #1 Cemeteries ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] #2 online state vital records ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Marilyn Logan sent us another site for cemetery chasing. Note the other links off it, on the bottom of the page. Thanks, Marilyn. bj http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/

Marilyn Logan found this info today on the Griffin list. I haven't seen it. Thanks, Marilyn. bj Here is a link to the American War Dead maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission, responsible for operating 24 US military cemeteries abroad, lists onine 172,218 Americans who lost their lives in World War II. This site includes the names of 78,976 Missing In Action or lost or buried at sea and 93,242 buried at the ABMC-run cemeteries. It does not contain the names of the 233,181 Americans returned to the US for burial. A name search produces a table of names with rank, serial number, date of death, and place of burial. Clicking on a name leads to a memorial page with additional information, such as the person's branch of service, unit, state in which he or she entered service, awards, and exact burial location or whether missing in action. I have found one of my uncles listed here. <http://www.usabmc.com/abmc45.htm> The ABMC site has similar searchable listings for 33,714 World War I dead and for 37,333 Korean War dead. -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #64 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:26 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JQw25682 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:26 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JRu16886 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:27 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JRu16886@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #64 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/64 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 64 Today's Topics: #1 WPA-TX ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] #2 Union Civil War in KY ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] #3 Historic Bridges, part of them in ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] #4 obits/memorials ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] #5 Another looking place ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] #6 Military ["Billye D. Jackson" <coffey@viptx.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Or did I already send this one. I'm clearing out old mail I'm behind on, and found this. Trouble is, can't remember if I already sent it. Anyhow... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~regen/links.htm bj

This was sent along by Joyce Tharpe, more good sites to check out. Thanks, Joy, for remembering to send in sharable genealogy sites. bj >>obituaries and other death related information on individuals of interest to us that we might not normally or otherwise have access to. >>if you go to the American Memorials site right now and do a search by name, using only the surname, it shows residence and approximate date of death. Most often there will be an obituary or at least some funeral related information listed if you highlight the individual names. This is a quick, easy and FREE way to get information on some of those cousins that are scattered all across the country. And it is all available right from your home. www.legacy.com www.americanmemorials.com www.LifeFiles.com

www.historicbridges.com

Found on Rootsweb.. bj http://userdb.rootsweb.com/rosters/

Found this on Rootsweb today. Not all of Texas, but a nice beginning. bj http://three-legged-willie.org/texas.htm

Jayne Manuel wrote: My ggrandfather, Friederich Schob aka Frederick Schob de Leon, arrived in the US through New Orleans in 1857 and in 1860 was ennumerated with the Carl Steiner family of the Coletoville Community in Victoria County, Texas. He died in Coletoville in 1920. I have been trying to find out where he was born (somewhere in Prussia or one of the German states, I believe), who his parents and siblings were, and why he ended up with the Steiner family, where he married Minna Steiner, my ggrandmother, in 1866. They had 1 son, Adolph, and 5 daughters -- Alvina (m. John Berger), Minna (m. William Hohmann), Augusta (m. Richard Jacob), Bianka (m. Joseph Steiger), and Emelia. Anyone with information on this subject, please contact me. Suggestion: While prowling through the probate records of Victoria Co., TX several years ago, I discovered the naturalization of my stepmother's grandfather. In other counties in Texas I have found naturalizations prior to 1906 in some strange places: Criminal records in Bexar Co., with deeds in Frio Co. as part of a filing for homestead, etc. If Jayne Manuel is near an LDS family center and not in Victoria, she can order many films of Victoria Co. from Salt Lake City. You can't read them all at once--so order only one or two of the most promsing ones. Many persons of German descent of Victoria Co. reportedly came from Alsace-Lorraine as did those around Castroville. Try www.familysearch.org to access the Family History Library Catalog (Salt Lake City). Try custom search (a tab like graphic). After you play around for a while (reading all the instructions on the screen) and are finally able to type in Victoria County, Texas (no abbreviations), and then you get some titles of their holdings, look for another darkened tab which says "Review Film Notes." This will give you the film number. The process is somewhat complicated, but the instructions are fairly clear and put there for us dummies. Good luck. E.W.Wallace southern California ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.1]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v73.13) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 May 2000 07:01:25 -0400 Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 May 2000 07:00:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e4UB0V703520; Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:31 -070 -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #63 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:25 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JPw25642 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:25 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JQj16882 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:26 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JQj16882@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #63 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/63 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 63 Today's Topics: #1 meadows/maddox/nellims [cjones <cjones@iocc.com>] #2 Ancestry of Friederich Schob - Sug [Hdanw@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=13 Surname: meadows, maddox, nellims ------------------------- researching the family names of meadows,maddox and nellim,lived in vicotria co,texas contact me directly as i don't visit the boards often thanks

Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=12 Surname: SCHOB, STEINER ------------------------- My ggrandfather, Friederich Schob aka Frederick Schob de Leon, arrived in the US through New Orleans in 1857 and in 1860 was ennumerated with the Carl Steiner family of the Coletoville Community in Victoria County, Texas. He died in Coletoville in 1920. I have been trying to find out where he was born (somewhere in Prussia or one of the German states, I believe), who his parents and siblings were, and why he ended up with the Steiner family, where he married Minna Steiner, my ggrandmother, in 1866. They had 1 son, Adolph, and 5 daughters -- Alvina (m. John Berger), Minna (m. William Hohmann), Augusta (m. Richard Jacob), Bianka (m. Joseph Steiger), and Emelia. Anyone with information on this subject, please contact me. -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #62 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:24 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JOw25604 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:24 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JPa16872 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:25 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JPa16872@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #62 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/62 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: #1 Ancestry of Friederich Schob [Jayne Manuel <jm3011@aol.com>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=11 Surname: KAUFMAN, WEBB, KOONTZ, DRODDY ------------------------- John H. KAUFMAN (died 1903), Mary KAUFMAN, his wife, (died 1914), their sons David (died 1932) and Samuel (died 1927) are buried in the Farrer Cemetery in Inez, Victoria County, Texas. David KAUFMAN presented a "Family Bible" in 1908 to a notary in Victoria County as proof of his birth for Civil War Pension benefits. This bible probably contains information on the births of all of the children of John and Mary KAUFMAN, 9 total according to the 1900 census. I am trying to find the bible if it still exists. Listed below is a partial list of descendants of John and Mary through their daughter, Mary E. KAUFMAN/WEBB, who died before 1900 and may not have ever lived in Victoria County, but all of the descendants listed here were in Victoria County in the early 1900's. I am hoping that someone of the descendents listed here might have had the bible. Please contact me if you have any information on these families or living descendants. 1. John W. WEBB (b.1845) sp: Mary E. KAUFMAN (b.1850) --2. Robert Lyon WEBB (b.1872) sp: Mary Nell KOONTZ (b.1882, m.1898) ----3. Robert WEBB (b.1902) ----3. Mary Nell WEBB (b.1903) ----3. Genevive Beatrice WEBB (b.1907) --2. Charley WEBB (b.1875) --2. Minnie or Winnie WEBB (b.1877) sp: Thomas Calvin DRODDY (b.1866, m.1903) --2. Annie L. WEBB (b.1882) --2. John Shepard WEBB (b.1884) sp: Mary Myrtle DRODDY (b.1895, m.1915) ----3. James Gordon WEBB (b.1927) -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #61 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:23 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JNw25560 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:23 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JOG16838 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:24 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JOG16838@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #61 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/61 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: #1 Looking For Family Bible [Bob Kaufman <bobnclaire@hotmail.co] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.

Most of the State Libraries are online now, the Southern Claims Comm. search of TN had a link off to TN Archives, and I was wondering if you'd looked at it. I noticed it has listed a source there to use for Cherokee Ancestry in TN. (Don't have any myself, but we've got a Victoria County Genealogy Society meeting coming up in the fall about that. Interests me, because husband is "supposed" to have some Native American ancestry way back, which I'm inclined to think might be Shawnee, not Cherokee, but the chase has been hard. Problem with his is like many of any tribe, they were never counted in any census, never having been on a reservation. Many groups of various tribes used KY as a hunting ground, some evidently hung around, but not as a nameable group or location. His are like many other early Native American lines in those early KY state years, they were there as individuals, or small groups, and if they stayed around, just finally merged in with the others, and there isn't any record of them as "a" tribe, no tracks! There is much mention of them in books, but not helpful in hunting ancestry. No census for KY and any tribe, that I'm aware of. bj http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/intro.htm#tn_bibliographies

I belong on a list where this search engine was mentioned and using in particular to find records on the Southern Claims Commission. Works really great, simple interface for first page. Type up whatever, and let's see what all we can get with this search engine. Type in Southern Claims Commission, and you'll get a lot of links to check out. Best to each of you, bj listmanager http://www.Findia.net