Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=25 Surname: Pierpont, Frisbee, Parrott ------------------------- The 1850 Jackson Co., TX, census shows the family of William Pierpont. He was 53, born in Connecticut; his wife Elizabeth E. (Parrott), 43, was born in Pennsylvania. They were married in 1845 (by John McCullough, Presbyterian) so the two older children listed, W. J. D. and Agnes A. M., were from his prior marriage to Sophronia Frisbie. (John, the youngest was b. in Tx, as was Agnes---W. J. D.'s birthplace and date were left blank). The 1860 census index shows that Agnes (who'd then have been 23 yrs old) was in Victoria County. Will someone please provide me with the info. from the census entry? William, accord. to the Handbook of Texas (aka The Handbook of Texas Online), died in 1866 in Wharton Co., TX. Are there any Pierponts buried in Victoria County? (Perhaps William was not residing in Wharton Co. but died while visiting or on business.) What became of the children? Are there descendants in Victoria County? Any assistance w. this matter will be very much appreciated.
Would any of you happen to have a recording of the old song "Have you ever been to Texas in the Springtime? If so, would you contact me privately? I can't find it on the net. Thanks, Billye D. Jackson coffey@viptx.net -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #81 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:44 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jiw26339 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:44 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jjh17513 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:45 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jjh17513@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #81 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/81 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 81 Today's Topics: #1 Texas ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BFF882.1769A660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry you got that gibberish. I've got my email set for sending in html format for most all my mail, but let this one get away accidentally to this list. I'll redo it now, and send it to you right, in Text format. (Mail groups at Roots can't read HTML) bj On Rootsweb notes that came in today there is a note about being able to buy various census microfilm, and other things, for home use. Prices are good, but the reason I wanted to call it to your attention is the map genealogy value, for free. Some of you may want to see the various census year maps they have there that tell which years have what census. Look at them, they show what the state areas were on the census years. You can make a printed copy for reference, if you don't have it. Valuable information, it is available other places, but this is nice. Just click on the years to get to the maps under the dates. Billye Jackson http://www.censusmicrofilm.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BFF882.1769A660 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Jackson, Billye D..vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Jackson, Billye D..vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Jackson;Billye;D. FN:Jackson, Billye D. NICKNAME:bj, towmgenie NOTE:Genealogy & Computer Combo TEL;HOME;VOICE:361-573-9415 ADR;HOME:;;3004 Coffey Street;Victoria;TX;77901-7427;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:3004 Coffey = Street=3D0D=3D0AVictoria, TX 77901-7427=3D0D=3D0AUnited States X-WAB-GENDER:1 BDAY:20000510 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:coffey@viptx.net REV:20000605T123532Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BFF882.1769A660-- -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #80 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:43 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jhw26299 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:43 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jic17337 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:44 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jic17337@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #80 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/80 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 80 Today's Topics: #1 apologies ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Like MyFamily.com, there are lots of places out there to put a picture online. Zing is just one more, but a nice one. It allows for separate web pages for you and your family members, and is free. I thought if you didn't know of it, you might want to. You can upload those old family pictures and share them with other family, easily, and they load right fast. Check it out http://www.zing.com Billye D. Jackson -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #79 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:42 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jgw26256 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:42 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jhl17193 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:43 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jhl17193@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #79 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/79 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 79 Today's Topics: #1 Picture album place ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Good Morning. I was just looking at a fine website, full of information, and thought I'd share it with you all. Be sure to look under What's New, there is a batch of information under there, including bible and other records, plus newspaper accounts listing migrations of families into Texas. This site has a lot of source records for us, if Giles County, TN is your search area. I noticed one piece of it dealt with early settlers, and some with land being laid out or Middle Tennessee. Billye Jackson, Ancestor Chaser http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/ -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #78 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:41 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jfw26215 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:41 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jg217157 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:42 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jg217157@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #78 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/78 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 78 Today's Topics: #1 Your Sandhops? [Jayne Manuel <jm3011@aol.com>] #2 Giles Co., TN ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=20 Surname: SANDHOP, SCHOB ------------------------- Jennifer -- Check this web site: www.viptx.net/victoria/history/photographs/2.html Are these your Sandhops and what about the Mr. and Mrs. Shoppe?? Regards, Jayne
Looking for information about veterans of the Texas Revolution with the surname PAGE and who were from Victoria County or the environs. Also, would like to hear from anyone doing work on the ancestors of Peter Mark PAGE, born 1872 in Indiana, residing in Victoria County in 1920. Thank you. Claire Bettag -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #77 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:40 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jew26175 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:40 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jfs17132 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:41 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jfs17132@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #77 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/77 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 77 Today's Topics: #1 PAGE [Gatteb34@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=19 Surname: Schob, Steiner, Hohmann, Sandhop ------------------------- My mother's great great grandparents were Minna Steiner and Frederick Schob. My cousin, Nicole Falco is researching the family history at this time but I know of no other information other than what you know. I will find out if Niki has come across new information. My family has a picture of the Steiner's(do you have a copy, it was copied many times after grandma Sandhop(Augusta) died. I'm assuming that you must be a distant cousin of mine. Good luck in researching the family tree. -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #76 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:39 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jdw26136 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:39 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jec17069 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:40 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jec17069@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #76 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/76 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 76 Today's Topics: #1 Schob & Steiner family history [Jennifer Kane <ja_kane@hotmail.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Edna LaFour sent along this piece of information. Thank you, Edna. Bj listmanager Like most people who are doing genealogy research, I prowl through cemeteries taking pictures of grave markers to remember names, dates, etc. Over the years I have acquired a nice pile of some very old markers. Usually I would scan them and send them to whom ever requested the information. Now I found a site that I can list person, scan the picture of the marker, scan a picture of the person and include a brief bio on them. It is free and simple to use. You can search this site by famous graves and non famous graves. Also by surname, state, county or cemetery. Even if you don't have a picture of the marker or person it is a great site to share info with others. http://www.findagrave.com -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #75 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:38 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jcw26098 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:38 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jdh17065 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:39 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jdh17065@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #75 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/75 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: #1 Taking Tombstone Pictures ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] #2 more on gravemarkers ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
This was on a Ross Co., OH list I subscribe to, and It's a really good idea. I use fast film, but never thought using of a mirror. We'll have to check the next yard sale for a tombstone-mirror. Bj, listmanager "I have noticed on several of the list I and my wife subscribe to request for pictures taken of tombstones around the country. Here are a couple of tips I have learned that will insure a decent result. Hold camera at same level of stone. Place mirror on the ground in front of the stone to reflect light up onto the stone. Use a 400 speed film or better. Use these tips and your trip will not be wasted and you will be able to read the inscriptions on the stones in the pictures. Works on weathered stones as well as new ones. Happy headstone hunting. Robert (Gill)"
My sis, Joyce Tharpe sent this super site along. Well, I think it's super, it's got two of my grandfather's records included, they were out of MO. And, we didn't have quite all this information. Thanks, Joyce, super site! Bj, listmanager Search the Civil War Pension Index and/or read the extended description at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4654.htm ============================================================ DATABASES OF THE DAY (Free for 10 Days!) <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ============================================================ CIVIL WAR PENSION INDEX (IMAGES ONLINE) More than 2.5 million original American Civil War pension index cards are the first available images in Ancestry.com's new Images Online project. (For more information on the Images Online Project see, http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/1931.asp.) Each Civil War pension card--a record of a veteran's application for federal support--records the veteran's name and the state in which the application was received. (Because these pension files were for federal benefits, this collection only contains the names of Union veterans.) If a widow or a child filed the application, his or her name and relevant information is included. Until now, the pension cards were only available through microfilm copies contained at the National Archives and limited repositories. Ancestry's existing Civil War Pension Index contains a link to a digitized image of the index card itself. This image will contain additional information on the individual, such as unit of service, date of filing and application, and certificate numbers for the pension case file (which often contains additional pages of individual information) housed at the National Archives and Records Administration in Washington, D.C. Going beyond the detail of indexes and information summaries, the online images are an added source for information on Civil War ancestors. Source Information: National Archives and Records Administration. "Civil War Pension Index." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Data indexed and imaged from: National Archives and Records Administration. "General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934." T288, 544 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Search the Civil War Pension Index and/or read the extended description at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4654.htm An Advanced Search form is available at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/military/cwpi/main.htm ____________________________________________________________________ APPLETON, WISCONSIN DIRECTORIES, 1884-98 Located in central Wisconsin, the city of Appleton is the county seat of Outagamie County. 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To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4764.htm This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction Project and can be searched through its main page at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #74 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:37 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jbw26054 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:37 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722Jck17012 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:38 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722Jck17012@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #74 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/74 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 74 Today's Topics: #1 cousins ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] #2 Civil War Union Soldiers + WI reco ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. 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Julie Bowen sent this info along for those scratching heads in puzzlement of the how's of these things. Thanks, Julie. Bj listmanager Relationship of Cousins For many once you get beyond those first cousins you grew up with, understanding relationships is a very confusing concept. Add terms like "removed," "double," and "cross" and even the stout of heart are likely to throw up their hands in frustration. The most important point for beginning to figure out a cousinship is to first determine the common relative. This could be a grandfather or a fourth great grandmother. That is the first issue. Then it is necessary to plot out each of the direct lineages from that common relative. It is likely to look something like: .....Great Grandfather ...... | | Your......siblings....Their Grandfather Grandfather | | Your ....1st cousin... Their Father Father | | You .....2nd cousin ...Them As you go down each generation you add one to the cousin relationship. Of course not every cousinship is this simple. There will be times when your number of generations is more or less from the common relative than the other individual. In that case you add the "removes." Using our example above, your child would be a second cousin, once removed from your second cousin. You are a first cousin once removed from their father. Once in awhile to add to the confusion, two brothers will marry two sisters. Their offspring are considered double first cousins. This is because instead of just sharing one set of common ancestors, they share both sets. When you and your sister each have a child, those children are known as cross cousins. They are still first cousins, but they are cross first cousins. This is not as common a term as the ones discussed above, but you may stumble across it. Here are some web sites to help you in figuring out cousin relationships: Cousin Number Counter-Relationship Chart http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1956/cousin.ht ml Cousins: How Far Removed? http://www.cswnet.com/~mgoad/cousins.htm Cousins Explained http://www.obliquity.com/family/misc/cousin.html What Is A First Cousin, Twice Removed? http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/16_cousn.html Finally, an excellent book that offers great insight into kinship and relationships of cousins is Jackie Smith Arnold's "Kinship, It's All Relative" published by Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc. You can find out more about this book by visiting Genealogy Publishing Company, Inc. (http://www.genealogybookshop.com/). The link below will take you right to Arnold's book: http://www.genealogybookshop.com/genealogybookshop/fi les/General,General_Reference/177.html
Edna LaFour sent these along, and the young lady presenting them said we can do that. Thanks, Edna. Bj, listmanager genealogists out there. Firstmom's Military links for genealogy- includes War of 1812 all the way to Veitnam era. Categorized by wars, and also by various states in the Civil War. Also includes links and info on getting military records from the National Archives. http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/military.htm Freebies for Genealogists- includes links forms/letters in various languages for sending requests for records overseas, and also forms to print free to keep track of your own genealogy data, graphics, clip-art, volunteer lookup sites, places to get free family homepages, Gedcom readers, just lots of neat stuff! http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/free.htm Genealogy Researcher's List -find a researcher in an area specific to your needs. Categories for various states as well as England and Scotland. http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/research.html WW Top 100 Genealogy sites -actually has over 775 sites in it's databse now, add your site there too! http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=ancestry US States -categories for each state, plus individual pages for states like North Carolina, Pennsylvania etc http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/states.htm Non-Usa- this one is for all the other countries. Again, ones who have more than around 50-100 links have their own page (Germany, Ireland etc) and you'll find their link here. http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/nonusa.htm Ancestry.com and other searches- Search huge database sites (Ancestry has over 2000 record databases now) from this one little page, plus quick links to Ancestry's Newest FREE databases: http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ancestor.htm Firstmom's Native American Genealogy Resources- Links for the various Nations, census info and more http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/native.htm Firstmom's Ship Lists -25 ships I transcribed, plus links leading to thousands more ships that are transcribed online. http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ships.htm -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #73 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:36 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722Jaw26015 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:36 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JaP17008 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:36 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JaP17008@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #73 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/73 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 73 Today's Topics: #1 The Way Some People Look At Geneal ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] #2 German Genealogy links ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] #3 Another set ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Bet you thought I'd forgotten about you! Not so. This came in today, and the young lady had such a good bunch of German research links, I just have to send them to you. Listmanager, Bj Subject: German Genealogy Resources expedimaps www.expedimaps.com/ Germany . www.Teleauskunft.de/ Research Suggestions and Sources http://feefhs.org/frl/sl/suwalki.html FHL Research Outline-Germany, Annotations Additions and Ca Sources http://feefhs.org/frl/de/frl-rogm.html Handbook of German Research, vol 1 http://www.everton.com/specials/b55 In Search of Your German Roots (B62) http://www.everton.com/specials/b62 Atlantic Bridge to Germany, volume 5: Bremen, Hamburg, http://www.everton.com/specials/b54 German Genealogy Guide (on CD-ROM) http://www.everton.com/specials/cd199 Passenger and Immigration Lists, http://www.everton.com/specials/cd356 German/French Immigrant Ancestors http://www.theriver.com/westlandpubn/ German Genealogy http://www.daddezio.com/germgen.html German Genealogical Sites http://www.execpc.com/~kap/gene-de.html This is for the index.Germanna Colonists http://frontpage.inficad.com/~genelea/gerhist/ German Immigration info http://www.theriver.com/westlandpubn/ga.html Professions, occupations and illnesses, translated from German to English. http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm Hamburg: Link to Your Roots http://www.hamburg.de/LinkToYourRoots/english/ Index to German States, Provinces, and Regions http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/reg/rindex.htm German Surnames/Immigration Book Titles http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/faqs/immigration information for Germany http://www.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/reg/DEU/milit-ar.html translation of a letter that would seem to address your question regarding draft records of the Prussian Army Online Resources for Genealogical Research in Germany http://www.everton.com/resources/world-resource.html Emigration from Germany http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/www/emig/emigr.html e-mail addy for someone in Germany http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/telephones.htm German Emigration to USA http://w3g.med.unigiessen.de/gene/www/emig/emigrati.htm German Genealogy Group Project; VU University http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/1538/index2.html Holding Libraries for Germans to U.S. Ports 1850-1893 http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/www/emig/gta holdings.html MAP The German "Zollverein" (Customs-Union), 1834-1866 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=88 German Passengers Arriving at U.S. Ports 1850-1893 http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/www/emig/GermansToAmerica.html German soldiers killed in WWI and WWII. http://www.volksbund.de/ German Research http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm Hamburg Databank Updated http://www.hamburg.de/LinkToYourRoots/english/welcome.htm URL for researching German ancestors. . http://home.nikocity.de/djoos/homepage.htm Weather underground for Europe is http://banners.wunderground.com/global/EU_ST_Index.html German Emigration to America" http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/emigrati.htm. German Genealogy Home Page at http://german.genealogy.net/gene about everything you need for German research. German searches http://www.rootsweb.com/~wggerman/links.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~wggerman/ http://www.feefhs.org/indexger.html http://www-lib.iupui.edu/kade/garssite.html http://www.isu.edu/~nickcrai/german.html http://www.serve.com/shea/germany.htm http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/ http://genweb.net/~irolee/england.htm http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Germany.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/ELSLOT/alsace.html#arch http://w3g.med.unigiessen.de/gene/reg/WELT/usa.html#gener http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/ei.html http://web.nstar.net/~dwat6911/ http://www.genealogy.net/ "GermansToAmerica" http://german.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/GermansToAmerica.html Germans to America_, including a list of volumes http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/GermansToAmerica.html. libraries known to hold copies of _Germans to America, http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/gta-holdings.html. For reviews of _Germans to America_, see this....; http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/gta-revu.html (vols. 1-9[1850-1855], by Michael Palmer); http://www.uni-oldenburg.de/nausa/pitfal.htm (by Prof. Dr. Antonius Holtmann of the Carl von Ossietzky Universit at Oldenburg). German Research Great site http://german.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/emigrati.htm The holding libraries are at http://german.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/gta-holdings.html To view this map, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=301 http://www.genealogylinks.net/europe/ger.htm List of links concerning German Genealogy German Names http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/sites/geneal.html http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/faqs/sgg.html FAQ on how to start looking for your ancestors in Germany German and American Sources for German Emigration to America http://german.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/emigrati.h http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/www/emig/emigrati.htm http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/emigrati.htm There were German colonies in Russia. People retained their German culture. They came on any ships if they could. http://www.feefhs.org whole page of Germans from Russia. http://www.CyndisList.com/germruss.htm German name site http://www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/odessa.html Search from Thousands of Surnames and Hundreds of Place Names in Germany,Great Britain, France, Switzerland, and Central Europe http://www.theriver.com/westlandpubn Common German Names - http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/geneal/bin/names.html German Names -- Many links http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/germname.htm German Names http://www.unc.edu/~murphy/rabenstein/german_names.html German script, documents etc. - German tutorial script. http://www.mun.ca/rels/morav/script.html http://www.angelfire.com/ia2/ehlers
Thought you all might enjoy this story as much as I did. Too, too right! Another friend and I were discussing this very thing earlier today. Someone in her family has THE only record of her father's birth, put away someplace among his papers, and he doesn't know where. Plus, he's very elderly. Friend is worried, naturally. Reminds me of my own mother's birth record. She was dismayed to find her birth was only recorded in an old Singer Sewing Machine manual, the only place it was ever written down. Of course, the machine never was far from her mother's hand, but still, it never made any bible page. (and I'm happy to even have the manual) This came in from another list. Billye D. Jackson THE WAY SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT GENEALOGY > Dear Cousin, In response to your letter, I am sorry to inform you that > grandpa "Fred" died some time back and the stuff you asked about is not available. > The personal property the family did not want was sold at an estate sale. > All those boxes of junk did not interest a single buyer. We were able to > salvage several binders for the kids homework after we sent all the paper > to the incinerator. The kids really complained about having to lug all that > paper and pictures of those ugly old folks to the dumpster. > An old family Bible from the 1840's did bring $ 5.00. The one from the 1870's did not sell. > There also was a bunch of floppy disks that we were able to reformat and > download some games for the kids to play on their new playstation. At least > SOMEBODY got some good from the three generations work. > I saw the fellow at a flea market a couple of weeks ago and he said he > threw the Bible in the trash after nobody was interested in it. He said he got > an offer for fifty cents for it, but would rather burn it than give it away. > He seemed to be having a lot of success with some very nice Elvis paintings at his booth. > The two aunts you asked about are also dead. They were such a delight > and could talk all day long about the things papa had written about. I remember > them saying something about some records that were copied from two > courthouses that later burned. Neither ever wrote down a single thing. > The letter you referred to was one he typed up and sent to lots of folks > who wrote him. He laughed about them never getting any of his hard work as well > as his Fathers and Grandfather who was in the Civil War . He guarded all > the information carefully to the bitter end. > I wish I could remember some of the things to help you, but I was bored > to tears listening to them talk about the family members who were in the civil > war and those silly pieces of paper he showed so proudly. I vaguely remember > they had some beeswax seals and something to do with the land grants that > were destroyed in the courthouse fires. I wish I could remember the > story about his grandfathers evening with Jefferson Davis when he was on the run. > There are also some very juicy stories that were handed down, but I don't > remember them very well. > Another thing I remember after he got sick was some fellow calling him and he > agreed to let him come down and copy all his material. He told him he > would call him back when he felt better. Papa mentioned something about > letting the society the man was from have all his work since nobody in the family > cared anything about a bunch of people who had been dead for 200 years. > Papa died the next week. > I am so sorry papa and the two generations wasted so much of their life > on such worthless hobbies and hope your family will follow something more > interesting. We enjoy Bingo and bowling very much here in Pleasantville. > I really enjoyed hearing from a long lost cousin and would like to hear back > if you find anything important. The kids need the computer for their > games and I need to watch the "Millionaire" show > Thank you, Cuz, Tammy Jean.
Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=18 Surname: Clarkson ------------------------- The 1850 federal census lists an A.W. Clarkson in Victoria county..location: Victoria. I have been searching my paternal grandfather, Alexander Wilson (A.W.)Clarkson fruitlessly for several years. The 1880 federal census for Macon county (Decatur), Illinois indicates that he was born in N.C. and mentions a "Gibaratta" or "Gilerato". Other than that most of the vital records are non existent. I am hoping that someone in Victoria may have something that will help me inch forward. Their first born was named Thomas which may mean that A.W.'s father had that given names. The Wilson could be the maiden surname of A.W.'s mother. I hope that this will ring a little bell with someone there. Thanks in advance Jim Clarkson jacl@ismi.net Brighton, Michigan -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #72 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:35 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JYw25975 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:34 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JZp17004 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:35 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JZp17004@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #72 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/72 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 72 Today's Topics: #1 Alexander Wilson Clarkson [jim clarkson <jacl@ismi.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Some of the recent uploads to Roots Web, posted on the TexGenWeb. Bj http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txuploads.html -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #71 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:33 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JXw25937 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:33 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JYd17000 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:34 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JYd17000@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #71 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/71 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: #1 new from Texas ["coffey" <coffey@viptx.net>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=17 Surname: Wright, McGary, McKisick ------------------------- James Wright was a representative from Victoria County to the Convention of 1833 at San Felipe. I am trying to get any information I can on this particular James Wright. -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #70 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:32 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JWw25899 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:32 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JXl16989 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:33 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JXl16989@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #70 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/70 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 70 Today's Topics: #1 Jones [Nita <lnrrblj@cherokeetel.com>] #2 James Wright [Brownie MacKie <BMacKie1@compuserv] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.
Posted on: Victoria Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Victoria?read=16 Surname: Jones, Story, Storey ------------------------- Clofer Jones b. abt. 1857 La. m. Medina Slaughter Children; William b. abt. 1880 Lillian Beatrice b. abt. 1881 m. ? adcock Lee Clofer second m. Emma ? Children; Ocy b. abt. 1892 m. Josephine Storey/Story Obie b. abt. 1894 m. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Storey/Story Clofer b. abt. 1895 Omer b. abt. 1898 Kiley b. abt. 1900 Gladys b. abt. 1903 m. Fred Kitchen Maud b. abt. 1912 Tillia b. abt. 1914 Areas they lived in were Victoria Co., Karnes Co., Nueces Co., Lubbock Co., and San Patricio Co. Tx. I would like to correnspond with anyone researching this family. Nita
Hello Everyone, I am forwarding a message I received regarding books that the Goliad Co. Historical Society has for sale. These are great books, I have them both. If you have any questions, please contact me or Mrs. Freer as noted at the end of the message. Thank you, Dorathy Luedecke Hardie Assistant County Coordinator, Goliad County, TX adhardie@sprynet.com While on a trip recently to Goliad and Corpus Christi, I had the opportunity to visit the Goliad Co Historical Society Musuem, just off the square in Goliad, Tex. I discovered that they have a number of books for sale, including "The History and Heritage of Goliad County(a reprint of the original) and the Cemetery Census Book. Although they are currently updating this book, it will be a while before the book is ready. While in Goliad I had the opportunity to visit with Mrs Doris Freer, the president of the Historical Society. She indicated that the Society had substantial funds tied up in the two books and would like to sell their supply. Could the Goliad Gen Web Page help out by advertising the availability of these books. They aree both valuable resource items for any genealogists during research in Goliad Co. -History and Heritage of Goliad Co. $40.00 each plus $5.00 for shipping and handling. Make checks payable to Goliad Co. Historical Commission. -Cemetery Census of Goliad Co. $15.00 each plus $3.00 for shipping and handling. Make checks as above. Booklet lists 43 cemeteries and is indexed. Originally published in 1988. Mrs Freers address is Goliad County Historical Assn. Box 8, Goliad, Tx. 77963. Unfortunately she does not have a computer. The telephone number at the Museum is 361 645 8767 and the Museum is open Wednesday and Saturday. Mrs Freer's home number is 361 645 3825 Regards, Walter Dreier -------------------------------- End of TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 Issue #69 ************************************** From root@lists6.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 1 19:19:31 2000 Return-Path: <root@lists6.rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by listsearches.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e722JVw25861 for <indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:31 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e722JWt16985 for indexer@listsearches.rootsweb.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:19:32 -0700 Message-Id: <200008020219.e722JWt16985@lists6.rootsweb.com> From: TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: TXVICTOR-D Digest V00 #69 X-Loop: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/69 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: TXVICTOR-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TXVICTOR-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TXVICTOR-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 69 Today's Topics: #1 Goliad Co., TX. Books for sale [Alan & Dorathy Hardie <adhardie@sp] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TXVICTOR-D, send a message to TXVICTOR-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too.