I am trying to find an obituary on my uncle who I beleive died in Arlington, TX on Jan 30, 1997. He was in a nursing home there (don't know which one). I lost contact with him after mom died & when I tried to call, the phone was disconnected. Found out from the SS Death Index that he had died. His last known address was in Tahlequah, OK so I went there to try to find out about him, but was told that his wife had taken him to TX where her son lived. Don't know the son's name. Her name is Lois Busby. My uncle was Argle Paul Busby. I would be forever grateful if someone could lookup the obituary for me. I know Uncle Argle had at least one daughter living (the last I knew she was in Tulsa, but I don't know her married name), & I would like to find her. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You!! Rita Hallett ritah@edumaster.net

>Hi Folks, > >How does one get a 1972 Tarrant County, TX obituary? This is a great question and if someone on the lists has an idea, I'd like to hear it too! My suggestion would be to contact the Ft Worth Public Library. http://198.215.16.8:443/fortworth/fwpl/ I looked around their site and they have a lot of information "including a phone number for the genealogy department". Any other ideas? Jean

Hi Folks, How does one get a 1972 Tarrant County, TX obituary? I live in Oregon and have no way to go there in person and do it myself. I wrote (emailed) the big newspaper there, but they never wrote me back. A few people have promised they would look it up for me, but they never got back to me either. I'm pretty discouraged about it, because I know that I could do it in short order if I was there. I have no idea which funeral home to write to either. Isn't there anyone out there who lives in that area who could help me? Here is my data off of the Social Security Death Index: Frances WILLIAMS Born 6 Sept 1876 Died May 1972 Residence Zip Code: 76104 Ft Worth, Tarrant, TX SSN 465-88-3206 Issued 1966 in TX Except for ordering a death certificate, this obituary is practically the only key I might have to tell me something about her parents and where they were born. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. Take care, Robert -- \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------- Robert L. Williams KC7BUM ---Veteran of operation Just Cause Republic of Panama 1989 Heather Williams Bryce LeGrand Williams Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams Ashland, Oregon will7370@tao.sou.edu --------------------Oooo.----------- .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)

Jean, Thank you for the answer to my question re the early marriage records. I was guilty of doing the very thing that has irritated me in the past as a NM county sponsor and list manager. I asked before taking the time to research the question myself. But maybe my question and your reply will serve a purpose and acquaint us all with the Tarrant County page and the wonderful resources to be found there. Thanks! Joyce The Gore Family Connection http://www.yucca.net/jglocke/

>Does anyone have information on the original marriage licenses for the >period including 1878? Somewhere I believe I read, or heard, that they >had been turned over to a Genealogical Society in Fort Worth. CLOSE.......... It was the Tarrant Co. Historical Commission. For information see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txtarran/source/research.htm#history JUST a REMINDER - If you haven't looked at the Tarrant Co. Research Page very carefully - you may be missing some good information about what is available in Tarrant Co.....where it is.......who to contact.......etc. If an item is highlighted (a link) - there is more information about it. BTW the link on that page for the Ft Worth Gen. Soc will take you to their site. Happy Hunting, Jean

Does anyone have information on the original marriage licenses for the period including 1878? Somewhere I believe I read, or heard, that they had been turned over to a Genealogical Society in Fort Worth. I have a copy of the license for my ancestor, Thomas Kirkpatrick married to Mary L. King on November 7, 1878. This is recorded in the first surviving marriage book in Fort Worth. I have found that the family did not normally pick up the original copies and I would, of course, love to have it if possible. If anyone knows who I could contact, or any general information about the situation, please contact me privately, or through the list. Thank you for any assistance, Joyce Locke jglocke@yucca.net The Gore Family Connection http://www.yucca.net/jglocke/

The address for the Fort Worth Genealogy Society is: P.O. Box 9767, Fort Worth, Tx 76147-2767. They can also be found online, they have a web page. I think you can email them with questions but not positive on this. Hope this helps. Janis

Thank you ALL who responded. There were some great ideas. And I will follow each one of them. And some very helpful information, answering many questions. Jean, I did had a similiar experience in California with William Sansoni;'s father. An Italian emmigrant. He lived in Marysville, Yuba County but went to San Francisco to be married in the <Nearest> Catholic Church. Or maybe a special one? But he did not get a license in Marysville. Linda

Does anyone have the new HISTORY OF MANSFIELD book? Would love to know if the KEENE's appear in the index. If so I will order one. But $70. is steep for a book, unseen. While you've heard the SANSONI/SONTER family were married in Ft. Worth. She, being widowed in 1899, lived in Ft. Worth with her son Fredrick b. 1892 until her death in 1925. Although she is evidently not buried there. Meantime there was a KEENE family that moved to Streetman about 1903 and lived on a farm there until 1935. Marion Washington Keene and Alice India Reno. They had eight children (and two from previous marriages). Many of whom lived and married in Ft. Worth around the turn of the century. Vernon LeRoy Pearce Eula Lee Keene Marion Guy Keene m. Gertrude Hattie Mae Keene b.1887 d. 1927 William Lewis Keene d. 1968 Samuel Fredrick Keene m.Dora Margaret Elizabeth Keene m.A.L. Brown, then Edwin Clayton 1912 Essie Viola Keene m. Fredrick Sansoni 1912 Lura Beatrice Keene m. John Austin Jones m.1918 Raymond Keene m. Irene Jones and lived in Mansfield. When his wife died in 1935 Marion Washington Keene moved to Kinnadale and Grapevine briefly, then settled in Mansfield. He married Josie Beasley Lewis in 1943, his third wife. She is buried in Mansfield Cemetary. He died in Mansfield in 1956 and is buried in the Birdston Cemetary in Streetman, as is the mother of his children. Would love to learn more about the history and area of Fort Worth and Mansfield and Streetman. Any recommended reading? Know very little of this period. Any information is appreciated. Are there any tips you can share about searching in this area?

Have you checked out the Tarrant Co. Citizens page lately? There are 30 entries now! Our newest one just went on line................ Susan Hunt, McDaniel, Gray, Driskill by Mary Trampe

Beall Dent Barns Watson Green Crocker Lane Herreld Ellis Rutherford Fielder Josiah Beall and his family arrived in Tarrant Co. around 1850. They moved from MS (some going by way of MO with Jason Watson) arriving in time to be missed by the census taker. Then when the 1860 census for Tarrant was lost and the court house burned.........Well, they did not leave enough records to make me happy. Josiah Beall b.1804 Franklin Co., GA son of Fredrick and Martha Payton Beall Beall; married 17 Oct 1822 Franklin Co., Ga; Ann Tatum "Nancy" DENT (b.5 Feb 1805). Their Children: 1.Fredrick BEALL b.1823 2.William Malcolm BEALL b.1825 md. Mary Ann Watson 3.Walter Dent BEALL b.1828 md. Sarah Catherine Watson 4.Brooke BEALL b.1830 md. Susan Angelina (Angy) GREEN 5.Amelia BEALL b.1830 md. ?? Crocker 6.Malcolm Dent BEALL b.1834 md. Rhoda Ann LANE 7.Otho Daniel BEALL b.1836 md. Julia Emeline HERRELD 8.Elizabeth Louisa BEALL b.1838 md. Samuel Alford Madison ELLIS 9.Martha (Mittie) BEALL b.1840 md. Moses RUTHERFORD 10.Milton Alexander BEALL b.1842 md. Anne Catherine FIELDER 11.*James Whitten BEALL b.1846 md. Martha F. BARNS 12.America (Ammie) BEALL b.1846md. Sam LANE I will be happy to discuss these families with anyone researching them. Hopefully someone will be able to help me with more information on some of them..........esp. Sam Lane and the ?? Crocker. OK...........Now it's YOUR TURN !

I have a frustrating problem in Ft. Worth. Was looking for the marriage of my grGrandparents. William Anthony Sansoni and Lucille E. Sonter. They were listed in a book at tthe Texas State Library, Vol.II of Tarrant County Marriage Records by the Fort Worth Genealogical Society as William A. Sansom and Lucille E. Sonter May 6, 1888. Good so far. I sent for the record at the County Clerks office and they find no record. Saying that even if the marriage was performed there the license (or whatever) was not purchased there. The Sansoni's did live in Ft. Worth from 1892 on. What year was St. Andrews church built? Know Lucille sang in the choir there and her son Fred was an alter boy. Does anyone have handy access to an 1890 census index? My family history center did not have one. Am certainly open to and begging for any input or suggestions or pointers. Thanks. Linda SEARCHING: SANSONI-SONTER-CAREY-KEENE-HAWKINS-RENO-SHROPSHIRE

NEWS YOU CAN USE The Tarrant Co. Texas GenWeb Project page is located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txtarran You will find information there about all sorts of things from - this mail list to Cemeteries, Obits, Up Coming Events, Queries...............and links to other sites that my be helpful. I try to keep things updated but will appreciate it if you would let me know if you discover a bad link. There is now a way to easily access all the messages that have been posted to this list. Here is the announcement from Brian L. ............................................................................ ............................................ The new search engine server is now online and can operate at the speed of a full T1 connection. Courtesy of hacks by Karen Isaacson, you can search the archives of any mailing list (except those withdrawn by the listowner), now with nicer *formats* and *updated* to within the last 24 hours, at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ............................................................................ ............................................. Every few days I see a message to "subscribe" from a subscriber who thinks they may have been dropped from the list since they don't remember the last message they received from the list. (I'm guessing on the reason for the re - submission). I am just as likely as you to just read and never post a message to the mail lists I subscribe to. This list MIGHT be of more help to YOU if you posted your research interests. Some of us do not have specific queries, right now.......but we could just tell which family and the time period we are interested in. Connections don't happen unless we put something out there so others can see us. That Said....I'm going to follow my advise and post a message latter today about my Tarrant Co. Ancestors! I hope each of you will TOO!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- And for the regular update? Well, during the past 2 weeks we've had 534 hits on the main pages, 134 on the queries page resulting in 21 new queries online, The surname page received a total of 228 hits - still a very popular resource. We have had changes in our look up volunteers. We recently added a couple of Cemeteries. The combined total of subscribers to this list and the digest version of this list is over 100 people now. That's 100 researchers with an interest in Tarrant Co and some knowledge of Tarrant Co, it's history, research experiences, and it's people! Hope to see you later on the list, Jean

I am trying to find out who is the father of William DAY. The DAY surname has showed up several times in Halifax, Va but not sure who connects to who. Maybe someone can help me figure this mystery out. Halifax County Virginia Will Book 1 1773-1783 Page 360 John TURNER Inventory & Appraisement Among items listed: Horses, mares, cattle, Hogs, sheep, geese, houshold good, two guns, Dutch oven & gridle, Plantation tools, shewakers & carpenter tools, 3 mens saddles, sadle bags, 7 bee hives, sheets & table cloths, two box irons, & heters, books, looking glass, 30 plates, 29 spoons. Dated: 4 June 1781 Total: 27660.00 Appraisers: John DICKIE, Phillip DAY, William WATKINS, John SALMON Returned: 21 June 1791. O.R. Joyce in Texas -- Joyce DAY AUSTIN <jaau@airmail.net> Researching VA, GA, TN, TX: DAY, COLE, FORMBY, MOORE, DAVIS TX: SLOCUM, HENDRIX, BRITTON VA, TN, TX: AUSTIN, WOOD, RUSSELL RED RIVER CO, TEXAS: HALL, MARTIN Home page: http://web2.airmail.net/jaau/index.htm

Need help with my STAHLEY/STARLEY/JOHNSON/HUBBARD/HENDERSON.YOUNGBLOOD Families . Charles F. STAHLEY came to the USA 1862-1864 from Switzerland. Born abt 1842-1844. His mother was Mary Lou or Lulu and father Joseph or Ben. It has been said he arrived in NY also SCOTTSDALE as a stowaway. Worked his way to AL. Left there for TX. Somewhere, either in AL, or along the way he met a widow (?) Mary Ann Evans THOMPSON and her son Willliam (Willie) Alonzo THOMPSON. They were married. And lived for a time at MC Kinney TX. They had the following children: Mary Lulu b 1870-1871 married J. S. Johnson in Erath CO TX 01 Jan 1890 Sallie (Emma Jane) b abt 1872 married #1 Henderson in Erath CO #2 Frank Youngblood John M. B 9 Jan 1879 married Mrs. Eddie Gamble in Erath CO Minnie B abt 1879 married W. S. Hubbard in Somervell CO Glen Rose Fred Evans b 2 Mar 1880 married Dora E. Conner 20 Jul 1902 in Erath CO Are there descendants from the JOHNSON< HENDERSON< YOUNGBLOOD<HUBBARD families out there? Surely, there are grandchildren or great grandchildren. I need help filling in the blanks. Where did Charles enter USA? Where was he naturalized? Why did he go by the name STAHLEY when later his wife went by STARLEY? Descendants do you have any information, photos, stories??? Or friends or neighbors of the above families can you give me any information? It was said that Charles changed his name to STARLEY after he arrived. However, all Erath census show him as STAHLEY. Also, he lived in LIMESTONE CO TX for awhile. There was also a STARLEY living there. Is this his uncle, brother, cousin? Mrs. Gamble had children by a previous marriage. Barto Gamble, of Hico, being one. Are there GAMBLE descendants that might have information or photographs of Charles, Mary Ann and the children listed above? Any information will be gratefully accepted. Dawn Roberts 8711 E. Pinnacle Peak Rd #359 Scottsdale, AZ 85255 Fax 602-585-4181 e-mail djroberts@worldnet.att.net

My grandfather Murrell was born in Grapevine, Texas. I am trying to find out how Murrell Park on Grapevine Lake got it's name. Can anyone help me out? Sharry Jarrell Please email me at: SharJere96@aol.com Thank you for any help.

Although not directly related my father's aunts married into the Hubbard line in Erath County. Arizona Fine Moore married Brown Hubbard and Grace McAlister married Corb Hubbard. Descendants of both should be at our annual MOORE FAMILY REUNION on June 13 & 14. I will give them your name I know they will be excited to connect with kinfolk. Tom Moore I was born and raised in or around Fort Worth. -----Original Message----- From: David & Dawn <djroberts@worldnet.att.net> To: TXTARRAN-L@rootsweb.com <TXTARRAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 5:36 PM Subject: STARLEY-HENDERSON-GAMBLE :Need help with my :STAHLEY/STARLEY/JOHNSON/HUBBARD/HENDERSON.YOUNGBL OOD Families . :Charles F. STAHLEY came to the USA 1862-1864 from Switzerland. Born :abt 1842-1844. His mother was Mary Lou or Lulu and father Joseph or :Ben. It has been said he arrived in NY also SCOTTSDALE as a :stowaway. Worked his way to AL. Left there for TX. Somewhere, :either in AL, or along the way he met a widow (?) Mary Ann Evans :THOMPSON and her son Willliam (Willie) Alonzo THOMPSON. They were :married. And lived for a time at MC Kinney TX. :They had the following children: :Mary Lulu b 1870-1871 married J. S. Johnson in Erath CO TX 01 Jan :1890 :Sallie (Emma Jane) b abt 1872 married #1 Henderson in Erath CO #2 :Frank Youngblood :John M. B 9 Jan 1879 married Mrs. Eddie Gamble in Erath CO :Minnie B abt 1879 married W. S. Hubbard in Somervell CO Glen :Rose :Fred Evans b 2 Mar 1880 married Dora E. Conner 20 Jul 1902 in Erath :CO : :Are there descendants from the JOHNSON< HENDERSON< YOUNGBLOOD<HUBBARD :families out there? Surely, there are grandchildren or great :grandchildren. I need help filling in the blanks. Where did Charles :enter USA? Where was he naturalized? Why did he go by the name :STAHLEY when later his wife went by STARLEY? :Descendants do you have any information, photos, stories??? :Or friends or neighbors of the above families can you give me any :information? : :It was said that Charles changed his name to STARLEY after he :arrived. However, all Erath census show him as STAHLEY. : :Also, he lived in LIMESTONE CO TX for awhile. There was also a :STARLEY living there. Is this his uncle, brother, cousin? : :Mrs. Gamble had children by a previous marriage. Barto Gamble, of :Hico, being one. Are there GAMBLE descendants that might have :information or photographs of Charles, Mary Ann and the children :listed above? : :Any information will be gratefully accepted. :Dawn Roberts :8711 E. Pinnacle Peak Rd :#359 :Scottsdale, AZ 85255 :Fax 602-585-4181 :e-mail djroberts@worldnet.att.net : : :

I have a great great grandfather by the name of E. C. MARTIN who was born about 1830 S.C./GA? I found him in the 1860 census and shows his father and mother were born in S. C. I do not know what county. He first married Martha Rogers? about 1860 in Winnfield, Winn, LA. They moved to Arkansas about 1870 and Martha died? about 1873?. He was found in the 1880 census with his 6 children (5 girls, 1 boy) in Grayson, Co., Texas. He later moved to Red River Co., Texas. This is where he married his second wife Jane Winnsworth about 1881. His daughter Mary Alice MARTIN born 1863 in Louisanna, married 1882 in Annona, Red River, Co., Texas to Yancy King David HALL born in Alabama about 1844. I know that Mary and Yancy lived in Annona till 1900 later moved around the Brownwood, Texas area. My grandmother Angie Bell HALL DAY CLARK married Robert Franklin DAY in Brownwood in 1905. After Yancy died in Eastland Co., Texas, Mary moved to Fort Worth around 1935. She lived on Lorriane Steet till she died in 1949. If anyone has a connection to this family PLEASE contact me. This is my brick wall. I do not know who E. C. MARTIN'S father and mother are and who Yancy's father and mother. Joyce in Texas -- Joyce DAY AUSTIN <jaau@airmail.net> Researching VA, GA, TN, TX: DAY, COLE, FORMBY, MOORE, DAVIS TX: SLOCUM, HENDRIX, BRITTON VA, TN, TX: AUSTIN, WOOD, RUSSELL RED RIVER CO, TEXAS: HALL, MARTIN Home page: http://web2.airmail.net/jaau/index.htm

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What newspapers serve the Mansfiled area? Am in dire need of (aren't we all) an obituary for Marion W. Keene d. Jan.16, 1955 Josie Keene d. Nov. 27, 1949 Can anyone help? Thanks Linda