Dear Don, I saw your query on the San Saba list, and think I MIGHT have found your great grandmother Alva(h) BROWN In the 1880 San Saba Census there is a five year old girl listed, named Alva Brown. I can't be certain this is yours, because she is listed as five years old (making her birth date about 1875) and you said she was born in 1873, but the dates and names are close, and one always has to allow for mistakes! IF it turns out that they are one and the same, here are the details: BROWN, A. Joseph, 26, farmer. Born TX. Both parents born ALA Lou, 24, wife; Born TX. Both parents listed as born ALA Alva, age 5, daughter. Born TX Elgin, 4, daughter, born TX O. Dane, age 1, son. Also born TX ---------- I also have an INDEX of marriages, and found the following listing: CARTER, W. T., to BROWN, Alvah - April 18, 1894. I hope this ends up being a good lead for you. Karen GAUNY Crisalli