Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10679 Surname: Ward, Wilson, Preston, Downing ------------------------- Please change my address for San Saba County messages from wardmidtx@aol.com to: betty.ward@att.net Thank you!

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10678 Surname: Phillips ------------------------- I am searching for additional information on my GGfather and his family, Meredith Phillips, b. Jan, 1843 in Alabama, d. July 31, 1915 in Archer County, TX. Married to Medorah Ellen Boren, b. Mar, 1860, Tx, d. unknown in Archer County, TX. Children were: Laura J. Phillips b. Sept. 2, 1880, d. July 3, 1955 in San Saba County, Tx, m. Sidney Obediah Jordan. May Phillips, b. Jan, 1882, d. unknown (TX), m. Thomas Benton Jordan. Ed Ernest Phillips, b. Oct. 1886, d. May 1933 in Archer County, TX, m. Odessa (unknown). Earl James Phillips b. Jan 1, 1888, d. 1973, m. Annie Luvenia White. Ellis Olliver Phillips b. Feb., 1890, d. 1973, m. Mary Coffelt. Robert Jackson Phillips, b. Jan 1894, d. unknown. Ola Phillips, b. 1897, d. unknown, m. Will Yancy. Bertha Lee Phillips, b. unknown, d. 1925 in Wichita Fall, TX, m. Lawton Lee Price. This Phillips family appears on the San Saba County census for 1900. Any help here would be greatly appreciated!

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10676 Surname: Biggs ------------------------- San Saba County: William H. Biggs and Elizabeth Copeland were my Great-great-grandparents. Their daughter, Mary Susan Biggs, was my Great-grandmother. I have information and photos I'd like to share.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10675 Surname: Rogers, McCrea, Schul, Moore, Treybig ------------------------- I'm looking for information/descendants of my gg uncle Daniel Martin Rogers who married Sarah Ellen McCrea on July 27, 1890 in Lampasas Co., Texas. Dan was the son of Wilson Rogers & Sarah Elizabeth Williamson. His siblings were: Stephen Edgar, William Thomas, George Washington, Marion Allan, Wilson and Arnie. Daniel & Sarah's children: 1. Althea Elvira born ca Sept 1892, married Benny H. Treybig on Dec 22, 1910 2. William born ca March 1896 3. James born ca March 1899 4. Mary E. born ca 1901, married Arnold L. Moore on Nov 8, 1919 5. Malachi C. born April 22, 1906 and died Feb 15, 1986 in Lampasas Co., Texas. He was married to Lydia Schul and 3 of their children were born in San Saba county. i. Virginia Catherine born July 2, 1931 ii. Billy born April 3, 1926 iii. Edith Jeanette born March 19, 1936 iv. Patsy Elizabeth born March 6, 1933 v. Jack Douglas born March 27, 1942 I would appreciate any information on this Rogers family. Sincerely, Nicole Wiebe RR 2 Box 995 Kempner, Texas 76539

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10674 Surname: Wood, Hall ------------------------- Who was your great great great grandmother? I know Capt. Wood was married more than once. I know he married Elizabeth Dowdle Hall, but he already had children when they married and so did she. This was my great great great grandmother. Also, Capt. Riley Wood was my great great uncle on another side of my family.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10673 Surname: Hart, Mills ------------------------- These persons traveled from Fayette Co., Texas to San Saba Co, Texas in 1900. Some stayed some went back. The Harts and the Mills were each had the job of 'jailer' in the old county jail. Need some info on these families to fill in some blanks and will share inforamtion. lynn

This is a little long but I am desparate! Any assistance you or anyone reading this might give me in determining the parents of William Henry Ledbetter (a/k/a W. H. & Wil) would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps you can tell me where I might research records between 1843 and 1857, two important dates indicated below. William Henry Ledbetter, (a/k/a W. H., Wil, Capt. (family and friends in San Saba Co, TX all called him Capt.) b 12/5/1843 Pulaski, Giles Co, TN and married in 1866 in San Saba County, TX to Jennettie Frances Bomar (spelled a lot of ways on records). Served in the Civil War and Texas Rangers. In Sept., 1999 I visited San Saba and researched the county records. Found no mention of his parents and his death records signed by his son do not indicate parents names ("unknown"). I did not do a thorough research of the deed records - next trip... In his pension papers, he and his wife (after his death) stated he "came to Texas" in 1857 (born in 1843 in Pulaski, Giles Co, TN) so he would be abt 14 when he came to Texas, but I cannot find him/parents on the 1850 census anywhere I have researched. I have accepted a census link in the 1860 census as being him in Paris, Lamar County, TX (enumerated 9/29/1860) although it shows his age as 20 instead of 16-17 (he entered the Confederate Army near Lamar in May, 1861). He is found in the San Saba census records from 1870 forward. I wrote and received his military and pension records from the State of Texas. I obtained a search of Giles County, TN records. Nothing on his parents I have viewed all the surrounding states in books and surrounding territory on microfilm at the genealogy library and researched on the net. Does anyone know if Giles County, TN was not in TN in 1843 (maybe this would help)? He was granted: 170-3/4 acres 11 miles N.W. of San Saba town, Original Grantee W. H. Ledbetter, Sur. No. 86, abst No. 117, Cert 38/4420 (from his probate documentation but I do not have the date of the grant). A son and daughter filled out questionaires in 1935 (believed to be for the book "Ledbetters of Virginia") that stated they did not know the given names of either grandparent, that their grandfather died near Austin, TX in about 1843, but I do not know his name (year W. H. was born), their grandmother's maiden name was Craig and she married a Jackson after her husband died. His daughter stated he had no "own" siblings (I took this to mean no Ledbetter siblings, perhaps Jackson siblings). I am hitting brick walls on the death of the parents, marriage female Craig to male Jackson, maiden name Craig, etc. William Henry Ledbetter has been linked as a "possible" son of Rowland (Roland) Ledbetter in "Ledbetters Revisited" but my research and the questionaires by his grandchildren seem to disagree. I believe the authors of "Ledbetters of Virginia" did not link him (although they had the questionaires from his son and daughter), or include his family in the book, because they could not determine his parents. Who am I to think I can! ha. Any suggestions? ----- Original Message ----- From: <TCozz57795@aol.com> To: <TXSSABA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 6:42 AM Subject: [TXSSABA] Update on TX land grants, Karen and others interested... > http://www.glo.state.tx.us/archives/lgrants.html#headright > > This is from The Government Land Office(GLO) > > Pre-emption Grant > Similar to the headright grants, pre-emption grants were made after > statehood. From 1845 to 1854 homesteaders could claim 320 acres. From 1854 to > 1856, and 1866 to 1898, up to 160 acres could be claimed. Homesteaders were > required to live on the land for three years and make improvements (such as > building a barn) in order to qualify for a pre-emption grant of 160 acres. > > Karen, this may be why your subject was so sure of the day he entered Texas. > Note the dates. Thought you'd need this. Tom > > > ==== TXSSABA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send an email with only the word unsubscribe in the body of the email to TXSSABA-L-request@rootsweb.com (or TXSSABA-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest list) > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

http://www.glo.state.tx.us/archives/lgrants.html#headright This is from The Government Land Office(GLO) Pre-emption Grant Similar to the headright grants, pre-emption grants were made after statehood. From 1845 to 1854 homesteaders could claim 320 acres. From 1854 to 1856, and 1866 to 1898, up to 160 acres could be claimed. Homesteaders were required to live on the land for three years and make improvements (such as building a barn) in order to qualify for a pre-emption grant of 160 acres. Karen, this may be why your subject was so sure of the day he entered Texas. Note the dates. Thought you'd need this. Tom

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10672 Surname: Tippen ------------------------- My great-grandmother was Sarah Jane Tippen who married Richard J. Godfrey. She died on 9/1/1903 and is buried in Menard, Texas. According to the 1880 San Saba County Census she was 22. Her father was Marian, 47 years old, on the census but I think it was John Marian Tippen. Her mother was Mary E. Robertson, 42. Both were born in South Carolina. Also, on that census Sarah had 4 younger brothers. She and her brothers were born in Georgia. John Tippen's parents lived with them, William and Mary. My father thinks that Mary's maiden name was Trout, born in North Carolina. William born in South Carolina. Do you have more on this line of Tippen's?

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10671 Surname: Wood ------------------------- In response to your query on where the Captain came from in Captain Riley Wood on the San Saba Co Query website, it came from his service as a Captain in the Texas Army. He was called captain for years after even while serving as a Texas Ranger even though he did not attain that rank in the Rangers. Captain Wood was my great great grandfather.

Read 300 familes, not 33. sorry...Tom

Karen, the Republic of Texas ceased to exist when Texas was admitted to statehood in Dec. 1845. I suspect he might have noted the date in a personal diary. It's quite possible he and others still thought of Texas as a Republic. Texas was a place where a man might make his fortune. Land was quite cheap. Of course, this was before a place called Sutter's Mill in California where gold was discovered in 1848. When Austin's colony and the others(De Witt's, Robertson's, et.al), formed under the Constitution of 1824 from Mexico, there were what were called Character Certificates where the individual was described as worthy of entry. Of the "old 300" settlers some non-related individuals were grouped together as a family, making it closer to 33 families. These character certificates are at the General Land Office and have been published. You might remember some of the battle flags of the Revolution carried the 1824 reference. General Lopez de Santa Ana became a dictator, taking away the rights from the Constitution of 1824. This would eventually lead to a rebellion in 1835. When the Mexican Army came many citizens fled leaving warm food on the table. This era was known as "The Runaway Scrape". Houston led his army over a good part of Texas as he trained them and tried to choose a place to fight. San Jacinto, April 21, 1836, was the decisive battle for Texas Independence. >From 1836 to 1845, Texas was a republic with its own navy, currency and foreign relations. The French Legation is one of the older buildings in Austin, the capital after it was moved from Harrisbug(Houston). Various problems during the Republic era, including finance, trade, Indian problems, and protection from Mexico( The Vasques Campaign of 1842 in which San Antonio was retaken by our friends to the south), resulted in the Republic applying for statehood. A statewide election was held in 1845, and some political manuvering in Congress, which had the blessing of the then President, allowed Texas to become a state, I believe December 29,1845, 2 days before the opportunity would have expired. >From that point until Secession, Texas was part of the US. Governor Sam Houston would never have agreed to secession, and was replaced before the secession resolution was passed. Texas rejoined the Union folling the "late unpleasantness'' but reconstruction continued in Texas until the mid 1870's. 1840 Citizens of Texas would show those present at that time. In 1850, there was a Federal Census meaning the US counted the inhabitants as part of the United States. A very brief sketch but not too bad for an old geezer's memory. Tom, descendant of Nathaniel Reed, Pvt., Army of Texas, Campaign of '36 who received several land grants for participation at San Jacinto.

If anyone has access to newspapers in San Saba, I would very much appreciate an obit. lookup and will be happy to pay for the expense. I don't need a copy unless it's easy to make. It is for: Martha Whiteley Ashley d. 21 Aug. 1975 in San Saba Co. Also, if anyone on the list is connected with this family, I'd like to hear from you. Thanks for any help. Ann -- Ann Avery Hunter Richmond, Virginia mailto:annh@erols.com

Hi everyone, I have a question more of a technical/historical nature that I hope someone can help me with. I know about various records that are available regarding immigration to the U.S. from other countries. But, did people WITHIN the U.S. have to 'register' anywhere when they moved from state to state in the mid 1800's???? In my gr. gr. grandfathers obituary it states that he had been in Tennessee, and then moved on to 'The Republic of Texas' in the early 1850's. The thing is, his obituary quotes the EXACT day, month and year that he 'crossed the border' into Texas. How would anyone know - 50 years later - the exact date someone entered into the Republic of Texas ... It almost sounds as if he 'registered' his arrival, or somehow 'signed up' as a new resident, or something of that sort. Is there anyone on this list that knows enough of the history of this period to shed some light? If there were formal records of newcomers to the Republic, can they be researched today? Where? How? Thanks for any input anyone might have. Karen Gauny Crisalli

Hello to 'the list', Is anyone on this list researching/related to a Thomas Thaxton who lived in San Saba in the 1880's? According to the 1880 census his wife was Bettie, and he had many siblings, including a brother named John who was living with him. I have come into possession of a hand written letter from this Tom Thaxton, dated 1886, and addressed simply to "Cab". I'd like to share the contents of the letter (he is trying to collect money from 'Cab') with his descendants. Regards, Karen Gauny Crisalli

Harkey, Levi John died 24 feb., 1864 in San Saba Co., TX. Polly M. Harkey(possibly Hopkins) died 15 Oct., 1902 in San Saba Co., TX. We have an indication that Polly may have remarried to a William Hopkins prior to 1870. They are on the Census, Yell County Arkansas, 1870 with some of Levi and Polly's children. Might they have married after 1864 and prior to 1870 in San Saba County. Thanks for any help. Tom

The name "Marshall Gorman's Family History" keeps popping up as a source in my San Saba families, also the name "Delia Hopper George". Do any of you know who the are/were, where I can reach them or their descendants? Thanks, Helynn

Dear Carlette, and the San Saba List You recently posted a note asking for information on the Fannie Langham family. Now that I am back from a recent trip, I had a chance to check some of the reference books I have for San Saba, and I found some information I hope will help a little: In the marriage index I found: R. M. LANGHAM married Fannie LONG on November 27, 1892. (Thus this 'Fannie Long' became a 'Fannie Langham' in 1892) Then, in the essay book "San Saba County History 1856 - 1983" there is a mention of the above folks, further described as R(obert) M(atthew) LANGHAM (1870-1906) and Martha Frances (Fanny) LONG (1871-1958); she was a daughter of Francis Hatton LONG and Mary Jane CORNUTT. Although they apparently had nine children, none of them was named 'Ruby' or 'Benjamin Walker'. Their names, according to the book, were: Marcus Ellis Langham; Myrtle Frances; Robert Franklin; Benjamin Arnold; Forrest Long Langham; Paul Peter; Mary Elva; Thelma Elizabeth; and Robert Matthew. The first two children were born in San Saba, after which the family moved somewhere near Maryneal, Texas. She returned (as a widow) to San Saba sometime after 1906 and remained there until her death in 1958 when she was buried alongside her husband at Decker Cemetery in Maryneal. There was also a FANNIE LANHAM in the area at the same time, not be confused with FANNY LANGHAM...... Hope this helps! Karen Gauny Crisalli

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10669 Surname: GORMAN, WRIGHT, TIPPIN, PUGH, BEAN ------------------------- Cassandra mentions that she is descended from Marshall Ney GORMAN. Would like more information about him and from where he came into Texas. Was he in San Saba Co? Are any of these other names in San Saba? I have been researching Southern GORMANs since 1964. Perhaps I can help you. Please e-mail direct. Thank you for any response. I also would like to know the origin of the name GORMAN FALLS, and its location. Many thanks. Norma G. Wright

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/10668 Surname: ------------------------- The murder trial records I obtained through interlibrary loan were from 1898. At that time the records appear as "Minutes District Court," and if I remember correctly, they were organized by county (it's been a few years since I did this). I THINK (but don't hold me to it) that I had the option to order the minutes for the "District Court" OR the "Ordinary Court." Again, I THINK the Ordinary Court deals with civil disputes, and District is for criminal cases. When I ordered the records, my local library had a reference book for me to review that briefly outlined what was available by county. I know what you mean about some relatives who don't want to "know." I had an ancestor who was a member of the notorious 'MOB.' The details passed down in the family about his murder conviction and eventual pardon were different than the facts as I've been able to discover them. Talk about family not wanting to know the truth! Good Luck! Lisa Mitchell bslick7819@aol.com