Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/666 Surname: RIPPLE, SMITH, TOWERTON, SIMS, MAXWELL, HARRIS, HOOTEN, MULLINS ------------------------- I would like to find any information on the family of Henry Rector RIPPLE. He and his wife, Sarah Elizabeth RIPPLE, dtr. of Thomas M. SMITH, are listed in the 1880 census in San Saba Co. with 3 of their children. Henry b.12 July 1848 Saline Co.,ARK.; Sarah E. SMITH b.15 Aug. 1861 MS. All known children are: Robert b.ARK. Ida Belle b.Colony, San Saba Co.,TX. m. Marcus MAXWELL Mary b.21 Mar. 1877 Robert Lee,Cooke Co.,TX. m. John HARRIS Thomas M."Bud" b.5 Mar 1879 Chappel, San Saba Co.,TX.d.6 Feb.1953 Miranda Elizabeth b.8 Apr. 1881 Colony, San Saba Co. ,TX. m.James Levi SIMS d.5 Aug.1922 Fanny A.b. 29 Mar.1883 m. D.D. MULLINS d. 10 Jan.1953 Martha Harriet "Hattie" b.10 July 1885 San Saba, San Saba Co.,TX. m. Bob Thompson MAXWELL d.18 Nov.1964 Sarah "Ann" b.16 June 1887 Colony, San Saba Co.,TX. m.Dee TOWERTON d.23 Aug.1964 John Henry b.12 Mar.1894 San Saba,San Saba Co.,TX. m.Ruby Eloise LOCKE George b.10 Jan. 1897 Colony,San Saba Co.,TX. Bertie Lee b.8 Aug.1900 Colony,San Saba Co.,TX. m.Hobart HOOTEN. Sarah, Thomas, Miranda, Fanny & Ann are all buried in Colony Cemetery in Colony, San Saba Co.,TX. Would like to get any information on any of these relations.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/662 Surname: Warren, Robinson, Owen, Brown ------------------------- Bill, I think I see why you couldn't find them......the 1870 & 1880 San Saba, Texas census transcription book I have is full of errors..so I welcome corrections .....and your family is another one..... I'll start with Vollie Ann Warren Robinson McMillin b. Dec. 9, 1841.....this is how I found her and LaVenia, & family !!! 1870 San Saba Census Enum. date of July 30 page 31 of Prect. #1 # 190 MCMILLAN, N. D. age 42 Male White farmer val. 1,000 & 10,000 b. Ky wife VOLNIA A. age 28 female keeping house b. Tenn -- dau. NANCY E. age 5 b. Tex. dau. Mattie E. age 3 female b. Tex son THOMAS J. age 1 Male b.Tex Living with them are: ROBBERSON, M. H. white male age 10 at home b. Tex. and ROBBERSON, LAVENNA A. white female age 7 at home b. Tex Next family: #191 WARREN, ELIZABETH age 56 female white k/h val. 1,000 & 2,000 b. Ala. Warren, JAMES E. age 16 Male athome b. Tex. & his twin.... , JOHN H. age 16 ,ELLEN age 11 female at home b.Tex. Warren, JOSEPH B. age 22 male driving cattle b. Tex. There are so many Brown's but I think this is the one you are most interested in for now: 1880 San Saba Census Prect #1 Dist.112 enum. started June 10th # 166 BROWN, SAMUEL age 47 farmer b. Mo. both his parents b. Tenn. wife , FRANCIS age 43 b. Mo. father b. Ky. and mother b. Tenn. son , (?JERRIE) age 19 farmer b. Mo. son, GEORGE age 18 farmer b. Mo. son, OSCAR age 16 (all the rest farmers b. Mo. also) son, GOLDAN age 14 son, JAMES age 12 son, JOE age 12 (twins) son, JOHN age 7 son, SOLOMON age 3 So...I wonder if LaVenia married James, Joe or John? (ie. S.T.J. Brown)? I don't know how much more info. you want? There is one Owen family in 1870 Erasmus and Rhoda Owen ages 38 and 33 he is a minister from Tenn she was b. Miss. their kids are Ellen 16, Samuel 14, Mary 9, Jacob 7, Erasmus 5, Tishie 3 (female), Edgar 1 all the children b. in Tex. It does sound like the same family to me, what do you think?? June

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/659 Surname: WARREN, ROBINSON, MCMILLIN, BROWN ------------------------- June, I will be most appreciative if you would please look up some families related by marriage. The central figure is my gggrandmother, Vollie Ann Warren Robinson McMillin, b. Dec 9, 1841 in Hardeman Co., Tn, and died July 16, 1915 in McMillin Community, San Saba Co., Tx. She married Jerry K. Robinson in about 1859 who died in the Civil War. Later, she married N. D. McMillin July 26, 1864, a neighbor to her parents, Jefferson and Elizabeth Owen Warren. Her first daughter, LaVenia Ann Robinson married S.T.J. Brown (son of Samuel Brown) in Nov 5 1883. It is possible the Samuel and Francis Ellen Wasson Brown family moved from Jefferson Co., Mo after 1880. Any information you may find about these families and their neighbors will be appreciated. Bill

Perhaps the name "KNEER" is German. In German, the 'k' and the 'n' would be both be pronounced. It would end up sounding like one would expect to pronounce "KANIER." I don't know the family or anything about them. I just studied German... so I read/pronounce the two versions the same way... Good luck

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/658 Surname: JAMES ------------------------- Thanks Lisa, I am interested in the Mob and have heard many different accounts. You mentioned books I have not read. My gr-grandfather, Will James was shot in 1896 by members of the Mob. His daughter, my grandmother always said his killing was because of the conflict between cattlemen and homesteaders. Could there be truth in this? She was only 12 when he was killed. Will James had 160 Acres of bought and paid for land. Would he be considered a homesteader? His wife, my gr-grandmother sold his land for a fraction of its value after his death, but I don't know to whom. I plan to get the books you mentioned, that I have not already read. I appreciate your post. It is the first time I have read information about anyone who actually was part of the "Mob". Margaret

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/656 Surname: ------------------------- If you're interested in the mob, I can suggest a few books: "I'll Die Before I'll Run" by C. L. Sonichsen (Chapter called 'The Pious Assassins') In my opinion, this is the best account of the Mob's activities. Mr. Sonichsen interviewed a number of the people who had a role in the business, and who knew those involved. Another account is given in the book, "Captain Bill McDonald: Texas Ranger," by Albert Bigelow Paine (Chapter 24, 'The Buzzard's Water Hole Gang') This book is somewhat sensationalistic, but interesting nonetheless. There is also a mention of the Mob in "Triggernometry," by Eugene Cunningham, starting on page 325. But it's brief. All three books are old, but have been reprinted within the last few years, so if they're not on the shelves, you can definitely have your local book store order them for you. To answer your questions: The Mob began as a sort of posse that convened as necessary to run rough men out of town or to dispense "justice" to cattle thieves, since there were few lawmen available, and the criminal element took advantage of the situation. At some point in the mid- to late 1880s, things got completely out of hand. The men began killing people against whom they had a grudge, and some say people were killed so that their land could be bought up by members of the mob. Many who were not killed were run out of town through scare tactics. The identity of members was kept secret, and people who "talked" were killed. People who were not in the Mob were killed for openly discussing the behavior of the Mob, or for stating whom they believed to be members. By 1897, the whole problem was so bad that citizens began writing to the Governor, begging him to send the Rangers. He did. By 1899, several members had been put on trial and the District Attorney ran the rest out of San Saba County. (He said he would close the open cases if the members moved on to other areas and kept their dealings honest.) To my knowledge, my GG Grandfather was the only member of the Mob that was convicted of murder. (My GG Grandfather is recorded in one of the above books as having been the "mastermind" of the group. I doubt that, but he was definitely deeply involved.) He never had any property or land to speak of, so what he "gained" by participating, I cannot guess. He spent 10 years in prison before he was pardoned by the Governor, largely through the efforts of the District Attorney who convicted him. There were other trials, but several ended in mis-trial, and I think the DA eventually gave up by 1903 or so. In the 1960s, my great aunt went to San Saba and tried to look at the court records relative to her Grandfather's conviction. She was followed to the county line by the Sherriff -- literally. I doubt many would be so touchy now, but even then, people recalled what had happened, and people didn't "talk" about it.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/654 Surname: ------------------------- So whose families were in "The Mob"? Who knows the history behind this vigilante group? What was their purpose? Did they run off "outsiders"? Was this a Klan type orginization? Were they stringing up their ties on Sunday and "outsiders" or sheepherders on Monday? What was the average age? How many Texas Rangers did it take to close 'em down? Do they still exist. Were they the real "law and order"? I remember driving to Richland from Dallas one year when I was around 20. I stopped in San Saba to ask some teenagers standing on a corner directions. One of them said "You better keep on moving." I did not think much of it then. What does anyone know about this interesting part of San Saba County history? By the way: sorry about so many POSTS; I don't want to be of-FENCE-ive. A little Taylor humor there---

Jim: Strange things happen to tombstones! A year ago last November, I was in San Saba and found that my mother's tombstone was gone and assumed that someone had stolen it. I went to the funeral home there and ordered another one and when they went to set it, they found the first one about 6" below the surface and covered with grass. THEY ACTUALLY SINK! He told me also, that the other ones in the family will likely do the same thing eventually. These days they use a different method for setting the stones and they hold up better. Good luck!...................Barbara (Ballard) Leedahl TXSSABA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > TXSSABA-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 13 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [TXSSABA] Taylor's and Ellis' ["James K. Taylor" <plactu2001@cs.c] > #2 [TXSSABA] Kneer vs Kanier [Jim Taylor <jtaylor@trinitychristi] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from TXSSABA-D, send a message to > > TXSSABA-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [TXSSABA] Taylor's and Ellis' > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:25:07 -0800 > From: "James K. Taylor" <plactu2001@cs.com> > To: TXSSABA-L@rootsweb.com > > Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/651 > > Surname: Taylor > ------------------------- > > I (James K. Taylor, 53, teacher) would like to find out information, especially > military, law enforcement etc about my ancestors. My dad was Ellis K. Taylor > (whom we just buired Sat. in Richland), his was Kelbert K. Taylor, his > was Elbert N Taylor and his was James K. Taylor (my name, and what happened > to the tombstone at Richland?). My granddad married Eula Lee Ellis and > somewhere, there are Davenports in the family tree. I want to know about > the Davenports, Ellis' and Taylors and any other ancestors around Richland > and San Saba. Were any of our ancestors in the Civil War? When did they > come to the best part of Texas? Were any of them in "the gang"? I have > heard a lot of stories through the years I would love to share. > > Jim Taylor > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [TXSSABA] Kneer vs Kanier > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:26:59 -0800 > From: Jim Taylor <jtaylor@trinitychristian.com> > To: TXSSABA-L@rootsweb.com > > Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/653 > > Surname: Taylor > ------------------------- > > In the Richland Spring cemetery in San Saba county, there used to be a > tombstone with my name on it (James Kneer Taylor). He was my great great > grandfather. I could not find the tombstone this last Saturday (Feb. 3) > when we buired my dad, Ellis Kneer Taylor. I made some inquires here and > someone wrote and said her ancestor was James Kanier Taylor and he married > a Norman, just like mine. They have to be one in the same. Could that middle > name have been spelled incorectly along the way? And what happened to that > tombstone.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/653 Surname: Taylor ------------------------- In the Richland Spring cemetery in San Saba county, there used to be a tombstone with my name on it (James Kneer Taylor). He was my great great grandfather. I could not find the tombstone this last Saturday (Feb. 3) when we buired my dad, Ellis Kneer Taylor. I made some inquires here and someone wrote and said her ancestor was James Kanier Taylor and he married a Norman, just like mine. They have to be one in the same. Could that middle name have been spelled incorectly along the way? And what happened to that tombstone.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/651 Surname: Taylor ------------------------- I (James K. Taylor, 53, teacher) would like to find out information, especially military, law enforcement etc about my ancestors. My dad was Ellis K. Taylor (whom we just buired Sat. in Richland), his was Kelbert K. Taylor, his was Elbert N Taylor and his was James K. Taylor (my name, and what happened to the tombstone at Richland?). My granddad married Eula Lee Ellis and somewhere, there are Davenports in the family tree. I want to know about the Davenports, Ellis' and Taylors and any other ancestors around Richland and San Saba. Were any of our ancestors in the Civil War? When did they come to the best part of Texas? Were any of them in "the gang"? I have heard a lot of stories through the years I would love to share. Jim Taylor

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Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/649 Surname: Barnett ------------------------- I am looking for Alexander LaFayette Barnett born June 2, 1864 and died December 5, 1932.He was burried Scurry Co., TX His father was John Wesley Barnett born Jan 4 1848 and died Nov 27 1910 Mother was Francis Madory Wagly born Aug 3 1841.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/647 Surname: RUSHING, SEXTON ------------------------- I need the marriage date in 1878 that James H. Rushing married Zelphia Jane Sexton in San Saba County.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/644 Surname: Hamrick, Barnett, Alford, Ellis ------------------------- Enjoyed reading all the messages about the Peacock's and Bilberry's....so just for information I looked on the 1880 San Saba, Texas Census and found these on June 15th, prect. #8 Fam.# 122 PEACOCK, MATILIDA age 63 widowed b. VA as were her parents son ROBERT age 27 farmer b. Ark father b. N.C. m. VA (Matilda's bro. JAMES GIBSON age 70 farmer b. VA as were his parents...was living with her) then WILLIAM PEACOCK age 10 G-son farmer b. Tx. and his parents b. Ark and Tx. and last was LILLIAN PEACOCK age 8 listed as dau.(but must have been g. dau.) b. Tx. father b. Ark. and mother Tx. Then on pg. 10 of Prect #8 Enum. on June 17 & 18 was: #129 the George A. and Mary BAKER family....they must have had a rooming house as lots of other boarders listed... living with them is: BILL PEACOCK AGE 24 (female)school teacher b. Tx father b. S.C. and mother b. Tenn. and also her sister: LEONA PEACOCK AGE 16 going to school b. Tx father b. S.C. and mother b. Tenn Then working back to the 1870 San Saba Census on July 12 family #63 is: PEACOCK, J. ALF. age 21 farming b. Tex. Joseph age 19 raising cattle b. Tex. Lurinda Z. age 16 keeping house b. Tex Laura age 11 b. Tex. Bettie age 8 b. Tex N. Alice age 3 b. Tex Then on July 2 living with fam. #10 Fred & Emily Bagly ages 25 b. Tenn and 24 b. Tex. is : WADE H. PEACOCK AGE 20 listed as a black laborer b. Tex.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/642 Surname: bilberry ------------------------- sansaba county Josie Bilberry Peacock wasmy grandfathers sister (George Lonnie Bilberry). H wasthe son of Esau. I rmember my grandmother talking about Aunt Josie. I have a litle information on the bilberrys, but not much. i am alwas interested though.

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/641 Surname: DePew, Baker ------------------------- Cousin Kate, Carrie (not Carolyn) Agnes DePew was MY GRANDMOTHER She was also born in San Saba, as were Walter and Gertrude. Sylvester was born in Middlebury, Indiana. I know my Grandmother ended up in Zion, ILL. As she had her first child in Chicago in 1900. Their grandfather Hemen DePew was married to a Mary Coomes from NY. DO you know who Hemen's father was? A cousin of mine tracked down the Denning, NY census of 1850- which shows Hemen (age 39) and Mary (age 36) but also shows a Abraham and Sarah who at the time were 73 and 71- were those his parents? Would love to hear from you. Janice Wilcox Danville, CA

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/640 Surname: Hamrick, Alford, Ellis, Barnett ------------------------- Karen, I saw your message and see two GAY's in the 1870 census for San Saba, don't know if this is any help.....but here is what I see. Good luck.....June Hamrick Schaub P.S. Let me know if you have any Hamrick, Alford, Ellis, or Barnetts on your tree! Thx. JULY 15, prect. #1 #98 SYNTHA GAY age 45 F. keepinghouse land/prop. value 1800 & 500 b. Ala. LOUISA " 14 F. at school b. Tex. ANN E. " 12 F. " b. Tex SAMUEL " 10 M. " b Tex EXA " 7 F. " B. Tex ** #99 is Mary Poe age 47 b. TN and daug Scinthia age 22 b. Ala #100 Smellser John, age 25 b. Mo and wife Florentine age 25 b. Ala children Wm age 3 and Nancy age 1 both b. TX May be relatives.... The Terry family was bef. them.fr. Tenn. # 106 JOHN GAY age 34 M. Farming 800 & 1,000 b. Ala. MARY ANN GAY 37 F. Keeping house b. Ala. DAVID A. GAY 5 M. b. Tex. There were no Wears in that 1870 or 1880 census These are the GAY'S in the 1880 San Saba Census: June 1, Enum. Dist 114 Prect. #4 #46 RICHARD GAY, age 48 farming b. Ala father b. Tenn. mother b. Tenn. REBECCA GAY 48 wife b. SC SC SC ELIZABETH GAY 23 dau. b. Ala. JAMES GAY 20 son laborer b.Ala JOHN GAY 18 son " " WILLIAM GAY 14 son " " JOSEPH GAY 8 son " " LEVI GAY 5 son b. Ala #55 JOHN GAY age 44 farming b. Ala Miss. Ala. MARY GAY 46 wife b. Ala Miss Ala DAVID GAY 15 son laborer b. Tex #49 STEPHEN GAY age 30 farmer b. Tx N.Y. N. Y. DORENA E. age 23 wife b. Ga SC N. C. WILLIAM age 11 son b. TX JOSEPH T. age 5 son b. TX DAVID P. age 11/12 son b. June TX Prect #12 page 2 enum. June 2, 1880 #16 SOLOMON GAY age 47 farmer b. N.C. S.C. N.C. TEXAS A. GAY 44 wife GA S.C. S.C. MARY I. GAY 10 dau TX LAURA M. GAY 5 dau. TX MASON P. GAY 3 Son TX & living there was JAMES M. STEVENSON age 14 step-son w/farm b. N.C. GA GA #19 F. S. C. PEISKER age 39 Rock Mason b. Prussia Prussia Prussia wife SARAH age 25 b. Tx Tenn. Tenn. son AUTHOR age 5 b. Tx son EDWARD age 2 b. Tx

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/639 Surname: GAY, WEAR, PEISKER ------------------------- Looking for information on Darthula A. Wear, born abt 1864 to John Williamson Wear and Mary Jenkins Wear. It appears she married unknown Gay. In a TX Land abstracts I found several listings in San Saba, Bexar district for D. A. Gay in 1890 and 1924 and also several for John N. Gay, who might possibly be her husband. Thanks for the help!

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/638 Surname: woodard, hopkins ------------------------- i am loking for any info. on a Paralee maiden name unknown.She married a Woodard had 2 Cildren 1. EARNEST and ETTA wOODARD.EARLY 1890 during the 90s.she married William David Hopkins had one child Jessie Richard Hopkins born Aug.27,1896 Born Richland Spings, SanSaba Co.,Texas .I UNDERSTAND pARALEE DIED SHORTLY AFTER THE BIRTH. THANK YOU JAMES NAVE 18215 MANOR CH. RD.Boonsboro ,Md. 21713

Posted on: San Saba Co., TX Queries<br> with Automated Mailing List Posting Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/SanSaba/637 Surname: HENRY M SKAGGS, RICHARD SHELTON SKAGGS ------------------------- I am looking for Henry M. Skaggs and Richard Shelton Skaggs. Would you check the 1880 San Saba County Census for me? Nell