Shelby County Rootsweb Facts - Week Ending 02/18/2001 is now updated http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby/shelbyfacts.htm Shelby County Texas Rootsweb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby rayjac@ktsnet.com

LECTURE SERIES 2001 Do you wonder where the money goes from all of those lottery tickets sold? Do you know of the programs benefiting from the lottery? Well, if you answer no to either or both, plan on attending the next meeting of the Shelby County Historical Society Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:00 pm Museum Building Refreshments served following the meeting -- Shelby County Historical Society Shelby County Museum and Genealogy Research Library Post Office Box 1542 230 Pecan Street Center, Texas 75935-1542 tel:936/598-3613 fax: 936/591-0959 schs@panola.cc.tx.us www.panola.cc.tx.us/~schs Monday - Friday 1:00 - 4:00 Saturdays 10:00 - 2:00 After hours by appointment

The Texas Lottery Commission will be speaking Feb. 22 starting 6:00 at the Museum. Please pass this along to your fellow educators. Refreshments served following the meeting.

Shelby County Historical Society News Update! * Progress is being made on the locating of lost cemeteries of Shelby County. This weekend volunteers located, photographed and inventoried three lost cemeteries. Ray Jackson with ROOTSWEB will be placing them on their site in the near future. Through guidance and information from the Texas Historical Commission in Austin, we are making great gains in this field. * By the end of the month, the GPS/GIS inventory system should be up and running at the Society. Trimble Navigation will be assisting in the final layout and startup so all cemeteries in Shelby County may be permanently located. A special thanks to Dr. Jere Jackson and the Center for East Texas Studies for helping make this possible. * Preceptor Upsilon Sorority made a generous donation to the Capital Campaign 2001. Through their donation we are presently at 21% of our goal of $19,500. Our first item on our campaign list can be marked off - a new copier! It was purchased last month with funds raised thus far. Thanks to everyone who has helped thus far in our fundraising efforts. Item #2 is a new roof for the Museum building. * Volunteers are continuously receiving items to add to the Society's museum collection. Books, family histories, photographs, clothing, mementos, and much, much more. If you have a treasured family item that you would like to share and preserve for future generations to enjoy, please contact Chris Mahan at the museum. * March 3rd will mark the evaluation and review of the Society's Policy & Procedures' Manual. Through a special grant from the American Associations of Libraries and Museum a MAP I grant was received in 1999. The final step is the review process. Thanks to all of the volunteers for their extra dedication and hard work. * New exhibit under construction: "A Look Into a Turn of the Century Classroom" Contact Reba James, Ray Jackson, Chris Mahan or Debbie Askew on a list of items still needed to complete the exhibition. * NEXT MEETING OF THE SOCIETY, FEBRUARY 22ND. Mr. Keith Elkins, Texas Lottery Commission - 6:00 pm - Shelby County Museum 230 Pecan Street, Center, TX Call for information 936/598-3613 -- Shelby County Historical Society Shelby County Museum and Genealogy Research Library Post Office Box 1542 230 Pecan Street Center, Texas 75935-1542 tel:936/598-3613 fax: 936/591-0959 schs@panola.cc.tx.us www.panola.cc.tx.us/~schs Monday - Friday 1:00 - 4:00 Saturdays 10:00 - 2:00 After hours by appointment

Shelby County marriage pages do not show parents. I regret that myself. Reecie ----- Original Message ----- From: Billy and/or Sandra Mitchell <bozelda@airmail.net> To: <TXSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Brice/Bryce family of Shelby county > Judy, I sent this to your AOL address but it bounced: B. Mitchell > > Hi, > > I saw your request on the Shelby Co. website. I have a book by J.B. Sanders > titled > Marriage Records of Shelby Co. Tx. 1882-1936. > It shows Thomas Brice marrying Missouri Warren Dec. 9,1887 with a record > page of > 2-24. I believe that you could contact the Courthouse Records & maybe get > more > info. However, a lot of the time ; they failed to list their parentage or > previous state > lived. If you can locate a copy of the census record for 1880; it might have > what you > are looking for. That is where I found my families origin in Tn. > Hope to help, > > Billy G. Mitchell > Carrollton,Tx. near Dallas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ShelbyTX@aol.com> > To: <TXSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:32 AM > Subject: Fwd: Brice/Bryce family of Shelby county > > > > > > --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > Return-path: <JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com> > > From: JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com > > Full-name: JUDYPENNYANTE > > Message-ID: <29.1051ddba.27b6c563@aol.com> > > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:25:07 EST > > Subject: Brice/Bryce family of Shelby county > > To: ShelbyTX@aol.com > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 117 > > > > Dear Jane, > > > > I have been given your name as a reference source for finding > > information on my husband's grandparents who were married in Shelby county > in > > 1887. > > I have already contacted the library in Timpson and Lori Webb who > > gave me some info but the main thing we can't find is who,what ,where & > when. > > > > We are looking for Thomas/Tom Brice born in March 1865 Crawford > > county,GA > > who married Missouri Jane Warren Dec. 11, 1887 in Center, Shelby county > TX. We > > have a copy of their marriage license but it doesn't have parents names on > it > > and that is what we need, plus when did they migrate to Texas? Lori Webb > > told me it was about the same time as the Abbotts, Dukes & Warrens, but > I've > > found nothing to verify this. > > If you can provide any new information we would be very > greatful. > > I already have most of the info from the Timpson library that Sharon > Brownlow > > sent but it still doesn't address these specific issues or tell us where > to > > go next. HELP > > > > Thank you > > Judy & Sam Brice > > 13162 Feather Point > > San Antonio, TX 78233 > > phone: (210) 599-8125 email is :JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com > > > > --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary-- > > >

Does anyone know why the New Hope Cemetery, located on US 84, about 1.1 miles east of the county line between Rusk Co. and Shelby Co. is not includes on the Shelby Co. web page? The cemetery is well kept and is marked by a sign on the highway I would record it, but the last three cemeteries I records where not accepted for posting to the web page. Please note: This is not the same cemetery as the New Hope that is on the list. Jim Barrett Bedford,TX parino@flash.net

Judy, I sent this to your AOL address but it bounced: B. Mitchell Hi, I saw your request on the Shelby Co. website. I have a book by J.B. Sanders titled Marriage Records of Shelby Co. Tx. 1882-1936. It shows Thomas Brice marrying Missouri Warren Dec. 9,1887 with a record page of 2-24. I believe that you could contact the Courthouse Records & maybe get more info. However, a lot of the time ; they failed to list their parentage or previous state lived. If you can locate a copy of the census record for 1880; it might have what you are looking for. That is where I found my families origin in Tn. Hope to help, Billy G. Mitchell Carrollton,Tx. near Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: <ShelbyTX@aol.com> To: <TXSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: Fwd: Brice/Bryce family of Shelby county > > --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com> > From: JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com > Full-name: JUDYPENNYANTE > Message-ID: <29.1051ddba.27b6c563@aol.com> > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:25:07 EST > Subject: Brice/Bryce family of Shelby county > To: ShelbyTX@aol.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 117 > > Dear Jane, > > I have been given your name as a reference source for finding > information on my husband's grandparents who were married in Shelby county in > 1887. > I have already contacted the library in Timpson and Lori Webb who > gave me some info but the main thing we can't find is who,what ,where & when. > > We are looking for Thomas/Tom Brice born in March 1865 Crawford > county,GA > who married Missouri Jane Warren Dec. 11, 1887 in Center, Shelby county TX. We > have a copy of their marriage license but it doesn't have parents names on it > and that is what we need, plus when did they migrate to Texas? Lori Webb > told me it was about the same time as the Abbotts, Dukes & Warrens, but I've > found nothing to verify this. > If you can provide any new information we would be very greatful. > I already have most of the info from the Timpson library that Sharon Brownlow > sent but it still doesn't address these specific issues or tell us where to > go next. HELP > > Thank you > Judy & Sam Brice > 13162 Feather Point > San Antonio, TX 78233 > phone: (210) 599-8125 email is :JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com > > --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary-- >

--part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com> From: JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com Full-name: JUDYPENNYANTE Message-ID: <29.1051ddba.27b6c563@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:25:07 EST Subject: Brice/Bryce family of Shelby county To: ShelbyTX@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 117 Dear Jane, I have been given your name as a reference source for finding information on my husband's grandparents who were married in Shelby county in 1887. I have already contacted the library in Timpson and Lori Webb who gave me some info but the main thing we can't find is who,what ,where & when. We are looking for Thomas/Tom Brice born in March 1865 Crawford county,GA who married Missouri Jane Warren Dec. 11, 1887 in Center, Shelby county TX. We have a copy of their marriage license but it doesn't have parents names on it and that is what we need, plus when did they migrate to Texas? Lori Webb told me it was about the same time as the Abbotts, Dukes & Warrens, but I've found nothing to verify this. If you can provide any new information we would be very greatful. I already have most of the info from the Timpson library that Sharon Brownlow sent but it still doesn't address these specific issues or tell us where to go next. HELP Thank you Judy & Sam Brice 13162 Feather Point San Antonio, TX 78233 phone: (210) 599-8125 email is :JUDYPENNYANTE@aol.com --part1_49.747ebf6.27b7fc62_boundary--

Shelby County Rootsweb Facts - Week Ending 02/11/2001 is uploaded http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby/shelbyfacts.htm Shelby County Texas Rootsweb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby rayjac@ktsnet.com

The Montgomery County Genealogical and Historical Society only has about 100 copies of The History of Montgomery County left. We have just started a program to ensure all schools in Montgomery County have a copy of this wonderful book.  To offset expensives, we need sponsors to help fund this program. The books are now selling for $35.00 (plus $5.00 for postage). Bluebonnet Sponsorship=$10.00-$25.00 Mockingbird Sponsorship=$50.00-$100.00 Lone Star Sponsorship=$200.00-$500.00 To sponsor, please send your name (or company name), address, phone and email address along with payment to MCGSH P. O. Box 867  Conroe, TX 77305-0867   Please be sure and mark it as sponsor. Vol. 2 is now in the planning stages.  This will take quite some time, so publication is not expected for 4-5 years.It has been 20 years since Vol. 1 was published, so there is lots to add.   I will let everyone know when we will be accepting family information, so don't wait to start on this. Start getting the information ready along with photos. thanks, Jane Keppler

I'm looking for info on the following marriage: Eugenia Cordelia York b. February 10, 1872 in Rusk County, TX to John William York and Mary Oliver Berry. She was married to a Claud A Smith on ?? February 14, 1889?? I'm not sure of date and don't know where. Family lore says he was a "horrible" husband and she left him. She was married again on July 30, 1902 in Stewart, Rusk, TX to William Floyd Graham. Supposedly she said she wouldn't marry again unless the suitor paid for her divorce and Floyd (my great grandpa did!!!) I'd like to find some "real" info as to where they got married, if this date is correct and where/when they divorced. thanks for any help anyone can provide! Sherry Dupre sdupremom@aol.com

Shelby County Rootsweb Facts - week ending 02/04/2001 is uploaded http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby/shelbyfacts.htm Shelby County Texas Rootsweb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby rayjac@ktsnet.com

Is there anyone that could do a marriage lookup for me? I'm looking for the surname Claude E. Thedford, or C. E. Thedford. He probably married after 1920. I don't know the bride's name. Best regards, Lorrie Thedford lorriet@mindspring.com

Anyone have any old photos of: DAVID R. CANNON, b. 1811 SC, d. 1886 Shelby Co., TX, and MARY ELIZABETH "POLLY" TODD, b. 1823 GA, d. 1900? I understand that they were married prior to 1846 TX. Perhaps someone has a photo of them, or, some of their descendants, and would consider sending a scanned image, so I might compare? Thanks, Sallie

Shelby County Rootsweb Facts- Week Ending 01/28/2001 is now uploaded http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby/shelbyfacts.htm Shelby County Texas Rootsweb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~txshelby rayjac@ktsnet.com

Hello Everyone, I would like to trace the Welch families that lived in Shelby Co. Tx. I do not know yet whether or not they are related to my Welch family that ended up in San Augustine Co. in 1870--but there is a good chance that the families were connected in some way. I am going ahead and keeping track of all the Welch's that lived on the border of Louisiana and Texas--as I know for sure that the families the Welch's married into moved around East Texas and also into Louisiana. It looks like I have a collection of Welch's coming from Georgia and Mississippi into Arkansas, then Texas and Louisiana. It makes an interesting big picture and history of our Welch's as a whole, so I hope you will understand that I'm interested in any Welch family, not just my own. Of course, I will be happy to share what I have with any of you. There were the following Welch families in Shelby Co., that I'd love to find out more about: Tommy Welch compilation - Shelby Co. Tx l. William Welch, b. abt 1850 Ky, d. _____________ ......+ Mary E. PAXTON, b. 19 Nov 1852,_____, d. 23 Feb 1933 Shelby Co., buried New Hope Cemetery. Dau of W. G. Paxton and Elizabeth Weaver. Couple on 1880 census of Shelby Co. Tx.. Info Brock: 'from researcher Joseph Lobley.: ...William Welsh, a private in the Indiana Calvary under the alias of William Woods...Mary E. received her pension from Washington, addressed "Mrs William Woods - alias Welch. After Mary died William married his houskeeper, Mrs. Anderson, who had a son Edgar Anderson. When William died the Paxton Bible was given to Edgar Anderson, who at the time lived in Houston, Harris, Tx. A different version of the story, and that is that it was Tommy Welch that married Elizabeth Anderson. Tommy had a son Jeffrey by first marriage. Jeffrey Welch killed himself and Edgar Anderson got the Bible Children of William Welch and Mary E. Paxton are: ........2. W. Thomas Welch, b. 25 Nov 1869, Tx., d. 8 May 1954, buried New Hope Cemetery. .............+Sarah Melinie Samford, b. 18 Jan 1865, Center, Shelby, Tx, dau of Elkanah Samford and Devilla Adaline Lucas. ...............3. William Jeffrey Welch, b. 25 Mar 1900, d. 27 Feb 1932. Killed himself. Either it was Tom Welch or this son that killed himself. ..................+ wife unknown. Family says didn't marry ...............3. W.M. "Bud" Welch, b. 26 Aug 1857( his father Tom was born 1867,so there is something wrong here.This name not on census) .......2. James Franklin Welch,b. 1 Aug 1877, d. 5 Aug 1955 Shelby Co. Tx, bur ...........New Hope Cemetery ............+ Minnie Allison, b. 14 Aug 1880, d. 21 Jul 1960 Houston, Harris, Tx. ................3. Bennie Welch, b. 8 Aug 1908, d. 23 Jan 1948 Shelby Co. Tx ....................+Donnie Covington Some of Bennie Welch's children might be living in the area, and would like to get their family information. There was also a James L. Welch, b. 15 Sep 1890 and died 26 Dec 1849 whos father was W. A. Welch and wife Lucie Bennett in the cemetery, I would like to find who they are related to. Also a Nora L. Welch b. 12 Oct 1873 and died 8 Dec 1959. Father was Andrew Windham and mother Gannie Godwin. ======================================================================= The John M. Welch family in Shelby Co. Tx John M. Welch Family Compilation - Shelby Co. Texas l. John Welch ..........+ Mary MELEAR From "Kith and Kin" (of Coweta Co., Ga), pg 98. 'probable children were: Andrew J. married matilda J.); John M. (married Rebecca C Smith Bates); Joseph J. (married Elizabeth ____; Martha J. (married James W. Reed; Thomas J.; Gaines and Michael J. Welch. The name "Welborn" one of Rebecca's sisters who married Naca Jones named a son Welborn as well as some of the Smith's. - Jannelle Magness Barrett. Rebecca Smit's ancestors were in Walton Co., Henry Co., then Coweta Co. Ga Children of John Welch and Mary (Melear) ..........2. John M. Welch, b. abt 1830 Georgia, d. 21 Sep 1889 Shelby ......................Co. Texas, m. ________________, Georgia. ....................+Rebecca SMITH, b. abt 1834 Georgia, d._________, dau of _______From Shelby Co. History Book:"After the death of David (Bates) at age 30, in 1850, Rebecca married John M.Welch. ...........Rebecca Smith m. David BATES and had following children: .........................3. John Hardy BATES, b. abt 1845, d. 15 Nov 1901 Austin, Tx. From Shelby Co. History Book, "John was a Civil War vetran from Shelby Co. Born in Coweta Co Ga., son of David and Rebecca Smith, John died in Travis Co. Tx 15 Nov 1901.....John (Bates) had a brother William W. Bates. ...........................+Susan Jane INMAN Hartsfield.(JHB her second husband) ......................................4. Josephine BATES ......................................4. Wade Hampton BATES ......................................4. Otto BATEs ......................................4. John D. BATES ......................................4. son .........................3. William W. BATES. Married 3 times. Buried Joaquin. ...................................+Tempie ...................................+Laura .................From Shelby Co History Book:..."Among the half siblings of (John Hardy Bates) were Rebecca, Mary Susan, James, Welborn. .................John M. Welch and Rebecca Smith had the following children: .......................3. Mary Susan WELCH, b. abt 1851 Georgia .....................................+ Peter Crawford .......................3. Rebecca Catherine WELCH, b. abt 1853 Georgia ...........................+ .......................3. James T. WELCH, b. 24 July 1854 ...........................+ .......................3.William Welborn WELCH, b. abt 1857 ...........................+Mary FAIRCLOTH ...................................4. Maude WELCH ...................................4. John M. WELCH .......................................+Leta .......................................5. Maurice WELCH ..........2. Andrew J. Welch ....................+ Matilda J. _____ ..........2. Joseph. Welch .......................+ Elizabeth ________ ..........2. Martha J. Welch .......................+James W. Reed ..........2. Thomas J. Welch ..........2. Gaines Welch ..........2. Michael J. Welch ================================================== The James Welch, born Ireland Family They were on the census, and apparently not related to the above two families, but would like to know what happened to them> #151 James Welch, b. 1830 Ireland .....Nancy, b. 1832 La .....J.A., b. abt 1860 La .....Nancy, b. abt 1857 ======================================= Any contritution will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Pat Welch _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Recently Donated by Patsy Maxey of Zwolle, LA "Autobiography of JOHN B. RUSHING, Appleby, Texas April 21, 1930" References to Shelby and Nacogdoches counties, Texas Anson County, North Carolina -- Shelby County Historical Society Shelby County Museum and Genealogy Research Library Post Office Box 1542 230 Pecan Street Center, Texas 75935-1542 tel:936/598-3613 fax: 936/591-0959 schs@panola.cc.tx.us www.panola.cc.tx.us/~schs Monday - Friday 1:00 - 4:00 Saturdays 10:00 - 2:00 After hours by appointment

John Stephens - Sarah Rodgers (Homestead) John Anderson Stephens - Sarah Hitt Ball Stephens John Ferrin Stanley of Tenaha, Shelby County, Texas Southern Sojourners Texiana - Fort Anahuac Birthplace of Texas Revolution Texas Sketchbook - Collection of Historical Stories Coming SOON: An entire listing of Genealogy Research Library holdings on the Society Web Page -- Shelby County Historical Society Shelby County Museum and Genealogy Research Library Post Office Box 1542 230 Pecan Street Center, Texas 75935-1542 tel:936/598-3613 fax: 936/591-0959 schs@panola.cc.tx.us www.panola.cc.tx.us/~schs Monday - Friday 1:00 - 4:00 Saturdays 10:00 - 2:00 After hours by appointment

My great grandmother was probably the daughter of Robert McWilliams and Mary Ann Cannon of Shelby County, Texas, but I can't prove it. I could use some help. My great grandmother, Mary McWilliams, was born about 1838 in South Carolina; her mother was from South Carolina and her father was from Ireland. Robert Mcwilliams was from Ireland, his wife Mary Amm Cannon was from South Carolina, and they had a daughter Mary A. McWilliams born about 1838 in South Carolina. The trouble is, the middle name of my Mary McWilliams is said to have been Elizabeth. My great grandmother Mary McWilliams married first Frank Augusta Arnold, Jr. Children were: 1. Elizabeth Arnold, born about 1859; she married a George Skinner of Denison, Texas. 2. Frank Augusta Arnold, Jr., born 10 Jan. 1861 in Shelby Co., TX; died 28 Aug. 1940 in Anson, Jones Co., TX. Mary married second on 10 Jan. 1865 Rev. Thomas Butler Norwood (Methodist) son of William Coleson Norwood and his wife Elizabeth Wade LeGrand of San Augustine Co., TX. Rev. Norwood preached at Shelbyville, Shelby Co., TX in the early 1860's. Children: 1. Alpha Lee Norwood (my grandfather) born probably at Daingerfield, Texas on 5 Sept. 1867; died 16 Feb. 1938 at Drumright, Ceek Co., OK 2. Thomas Bascom Norwood born 31 Jan. 1869 probably at Daingerfield, Texas; died 26 Dec. 1837 at Arlington, Tarrant Co., TX. 3. Emma Norwood born about 1871. She married W. C. Grounds and lived at Roseburg, Oregon in 1912. 4. Burta Norwood born about 1873. She lived at Durant Oklahoma in 1912. 5. Nell Norwood born 12 Feb. 1875; died 10 May 1966 in Denison, Grayson Co., TX. 6. Tranquilla Norwood born about 1878. She married O. F. Kolb and lived at Haskell, Texas in 1912. Mary (Mcwilliams) Norwood died on 22 May 1910 in Durnat, Bryan Co., OK. Rev. T. B. Norwood died in 1912. They are both buried at Durant. John Norwood

Reminder! Shelby County Historical Society's Lecture Series 2001 "Oral and Written History - Preservation for the Future" Dr. Jere Jackson Tomorrow evening Thursday, Feb. 25th 6:00 pm Museum Center, TX http://netwinsite.com