Ken, <<Need marriage reference for this couple, probably Sabine Co., TX>>. Burtis T. ALFORD and Elizabeth COLLIER were married in Sabine Co, Tx ca 1869. Sabine County courthouse burned 1875. No marriage records available prior to that time. >Who were their parents ? The first ALFORD family I find in Sabine Co is on 1860 census: I believe this is the family of Burtis Alford. 1860 census - Sabine Co, Tx ALFORD, Isham m 43 Ga Anna f 34 Al Frances f 18 Al Allen m 16 Al Burtis m 14 Al Balldy m 11 Al Louisa f 9 Al Thomas m 5 Al Julias m 3 Tx 1870 census Frances is gone. Allen is Allen J., Balldy is Buly, Louisa is gone, Julias is Preston; add : Aletha age 11, Wiley age 6 Burtis is not listed on 1870 census of Sabine Co. 1880 Census house 69: ALFORD, Burtis 31 Lizzie 26 Carrie 10 Isam 9 Preston 7 George W. 1 The Carrie on the 1900 census can't be this one on the 1880. It looks like they named 2 daughters Carrie. Add the four from the 1900 census and you have her 8 children. A. Alford married A. A. Halbert 11/19/1879 M.A. Alford married Joseph B. Neal 11/27/1879 Good Luck to you Juanita