In a message dated 98-03-18 08:06:44 EST, RootsLady@email.msn.com writes: << This is such a quiet list!! Has everyone found ALL their information on ALL their Sabine County ancestors?? If not, let's run em through again!! >> I have a lot of Roots in Sabine County and surrounding areas. William Smith b. 1791, in South Carolina, d. 3-13-1878 in Newton Co., Tx. buried inMill Creek Ceme. Sabine Co., Tx., was my husbands great great grandfather, he was married four times and my husbands family comes from the fourth marriage, I would like to know more about this family, I have some information but would like to know more. (1) Wiliam Smith m. unknown, they had a child born in Mississippi and died in Sabine County, Tx. John Hillis Smith, Sr. b.12-30-1811 d.11-15-1891 (2) William Smith m. unknown in Mississippi, I do not know if he had children by this marriage. (3) William Smith m. Nancy Huse abt. 1824 in Mississippi, they had five children: Aime (Anna) Smith b. abt. 1825 in Ms. m. William Chance abt. 1841, Sabine Pr., La. Irving Smith b. abt. 1827 in Ms. d. abt 1879 Sabine Co., Tx. Samuel Smith b. abt 1828 in Ms. Edward Smith b.2-6-1830 in Ms., d. 8-1-1912 Newton Co., Tx. William S. Smith b. abt 1832, in Ms. (4) William Smith m. Nancy Ann Shilling Walker 9-10-1849 in Sabine Pr. La., Nancy had a child by a previous marriage, James W. Walker b. 1-17-1837 d.6-6-1862 Wm and Nancy had two children: Nancy Elizabeth Smith b. 3-18-1852 Sabine Pr., La. d. 6-19-1938, m. Francis Marion Miller 10-7-1875 in Newton Co., Tx. Daniel Vinson Smith b. 6-20-1855, Newton Co., Tx or Sabine Pr., La. d. 2-20-1918, m. (1) Susan A. Dainwood 1-10-1875 in Sabine Co., Tx. He m. (2) Easter Ann Miller 12-24-1879, daughter of Reubin Miller and Katherine Wolf, and Francis Marion Miller was Easter Ann's Brother. Daniel Vinson Smith is my husbands great grandfather. His son Bryan Jay Smith is my husband's grandfather and Mittie Drucilla Martin is his grandmother. if you know anything about any of William's wife's please let me know. Thank You, Linda Surratt-White plstyx@aol.com

Please note: Respond to the Kerry. I am only the messenger!! Barbara Yancey Dore (aka) RootsLady@msn.com HomePage: http://members.aol.com/RootsLady/ "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants." -----Original Message----- From: Kerrygmo@aol.com <Kerrygmo@aol.com> Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 11:57 PM Subject: Southeast Texas Genealogical & Historical Society Meeting >I wanted to pass this meeting announcement along to these groups. Some of you >may want to attend our meeting for March. Please read the announcement below. >For those of you that do not know, the SETG&HS is located in Jefferson County, >TX and is comprised of ten counties known as the Atascosito District. The >counties are Orange, Jefferson, Chambers, Liberty, Hardin, Jasper, Newton, >Tyler, Polk and San Jacinto. Please check out our home page for more >information. This page is being reworked and will soon offer more information >from the counties mentioned above. If you do decide to visit us at this next >meeting, please email me for directions to our meeting place here in Jefferson >County from the city nearest where you live. I will be glad to help. This >sounds like it will be an exciting meeting! > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsetghs/">SouthEast Texas Genealogical & >Historical Society...</A> > >Kerry Girolamo >Kerrygmo@aol.com > >Southeast Texas Genealogical & Historical Society > >Folks, because of the unusual opportunity to get the "Heritage Quest >Demonstration Van and Lectures," there has been a change in our meeting >plans for March 3rd. > >The PLACE is the same, but the TIME has changed for this meeting only. > >In order to take advantage of this opportunity the following times will be >necessary: > > Registration: 6:00 P.M. > Lecture "Arm Chair Genealogy" 6:30 P.M. > Break and Demonstrations 7:45 P.M. > Lecture "How to find the Women in > your Pedigree" 8:30 P.M. > >Remember, it's free and the public is invited!! > >This should prove to be a very interesting evening, so please pass the word >around that no matter what is in the papers, this is the subject and time of >the meeting. > >The press releases were already sent out when Ednita Lane, Program >Chairperson, was presented with this opportunity. Another reminder will >follow. PLEASE HELP TO GET THE WORD OUT! > >Thanks, >Charles Beaugh >chasbeau@prodigy.com >President of the SETG&HS > >

Ken, <<Need marriage reference for this couple, probably Sabine Co., TX>>. Burtis T. ALFORD and Elizabeth COLLIER were married in Sabine Co, Tx ca 1869. Sabine County courthouse burned 1875. No marriage records available prior to that time. >Who were their parents ? The first ALFORD family I find in Sabine Co is on 1860 census: I believe this is the family of Burtis Alford. 1860 census - Sabine Co, Tx ALFORD, Isham m 43 Ga Anna f 34 Al Frances f 18 Al Allen m 16 Al Burtis m 14 Al Balldy m 11 Al Louisa f 9 Al Thomas m 5 Al Julias m 3 Tx 1870 census Frances is gone. Allen is Allen J., Balldy is Buly, Louisa is gone, Julias is Preston; add : Aletha age 11, Wiley age 6 Burtis is not listed on 1870 census of Sabine Co. 1880 Census house 69: ALFORD, Burtis 31 Lizzie 26 Carrie 10 Isam 9 Preston 7 George W. 1 The Carrie on the 1900 census can't be this one on the 1880. It looks like they named 2 daughters Carrie. Add the four from the 1900 census and you have her 8 children. A. Alford married A. A. Halbert 11/19/1879 M.A. Alford married Joseph B. Neal 11/27/1879 Good Luck to you Juanita

FORWARDED MESSAGE: Please respond to the original poster or this list. I'm just the messenger!! Barbara Yancey Dore (aka) RootsLady@msn.com HomePage: http://members.aol.com/RootsLady/ "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants." -----Original Message----- From: LaGen342@aol.com <LaGen342@aol.com> To: RootsLady@msn.com <RootsLady@msn.com> Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 1:03 PM Subject: Sabine Co. QUERY >LaGen342@aol.com >Ken Fuller - Alexandria, LA >ALFORD, Bertis Terry b ca Sep 1846 AL md ca 1868 TX to Elizabeth C. (unknown) >b ca Dec 1851 MS. >Appear on 1900 Sabine Co., TX census with 4 children, born 1880-1889, but have >been married 32 years and Eliz. had bore 8 children with all living. 4 at >home: >Jennie V., Carrie L., Bertis T. Jr. and Willie E. >Need marriage reference for this couple, probably Sabine Co., TX. >Who were their parents ? >Are the ALFORD's in Sabine Parish, Louisiana relations ? >Any help appreciated. >

FORWARDED MESSAGE: Please respond to the original poster or this list. I'm just the messenger!! Barbara Yancey Dore (aka) RootsLady@msn.com HomePage: http://members.aol.com/RootsLady/ "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants." -----Original Message----- From: TreSearch3@aol.com <TreSearch3@aol.com> To: RootsLady@msn.com <RootsLady@msn.com> Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 12:44 PM Subject: Sabine Co. QUERY >TreSearch3@aol.com Houston Tracy, Jr. WIGGINS Family Researcher 10+ >years. >The family of Absalom Brown WIGGINS (1850-1907) settled in Sabine County, >Texas after 1900. He and wife, Martha O. PENTECOST 1847-1927) and son, Ernest >(1883-1923) are buried in Whitehead Cemetery, near Pineland. >9 known children, born 1872-1887: James P., Annie, Emma, William, Absalom >Brown II, Cyrus E., Ernest md. ca 1912 Delia _?_), Edward J. (md. 1923 Salinda >Rebecca FERGUSON, dau. of Martin Young FERGUSON & Ann Smith McGRAW) and Mattie >E. (md. 1910 Jasper Co., TX to Kellie FERGUSON). >Family left Catahoula Parish about 1876. In Oct 1872 A.B. & Martha received >letters of dismission from Pine Grove Baptist Church to cast their lot with >any other church of the same religion. >1920 Sabine census shows the rented home to be on the Bronson, Pineland, >Brookland Highway. >1910 Sabine census shows she had bore 10 children and 3 were then living. >1900 Montgomery Co., TX shows she had 10 and 5 were then living. >Who was the 10th child ? Who were Kellie FERGUSON's parents ? >Would like correspondence and exchange of information with any interested >persons and particularly descendants. >

Hello to my Sabine County Cousins! I'm new to the list but have alot of family ties to Sabine County through the Meador and Forse families. The following is info on my grandparents: Onie Sinclair MEADOR, b.Jan.6, 1884, Sabine Col, Tx., m. John Burton FORSE, d.April 30, 1980, Newton Co., Tx., bur.Newton City Cemetery, Newton, Tx. John Burton FORSE, b. Oct.16, 1874 Sabine Co. Tx, m, Onie Sinclair MEADOR, d.Mar.21, 1966, Newton Co., Tx, bur. Newton City Cemetery, Newton, Tx. Onie Meador's grandfather , Dr. Richard A. Meador and his wife, Mary Ann Tucker;, came to Texas in the late 1830's and settled in Milam. John Burton Forse's grandfather, John Smith Forse,came to Texas in the 1840's and settled in San Augustine County.

Please, check your links & bookmarks to the counties below!! I just wanted everyone to know that all the following counties have "GONE TO ROOTSWEB." Some have been there a little while and some have just moved. I'm still finding links to the old sites on some sites. (Even my own???? <BBG> Hardin................... http://www.rootsweb.com/~txhardin/ Jasper................... http://www.rootsweb.com/~txjasper/ Jefferson ............. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txjeffer/ Newton................ http://www.rootsweb.com/~txnewton/ Orange................ http://www.rootsweb.com/~txorange/ Sabine................. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsabine/ San Augustine... http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsanaug/ Tyler.................... http://www.rootsweb.com/~txtyler/ Each of the above counties now has a Mailing List....Come join in!! Also available in Digest. Hardin Co. ................ TXHARDIN-L Jasper Co. ................ TXJASPER-L Jefferson Co. ........... TXJEFFER-L Newton Co. .............. TXNEWTON-L (listmistress-Sue Owens......Thanks, Sue) Orange Co. ............... TXORANGE-L Sabine Co. ................ TXSABINE-L San Augustine Co. ... TXSANAUG-L Tyler Co. ..................... TXTYLER-L Also, I have noticed that some links to the SouthEast Texas Genealogical & Historical Society are still pointing to the old site. Please make sure that the "E" in SouthEast is a capital. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsetghs/ Please stop in for a visit at any of the above counties. We've been busy adding marriage records (Jasper), a couple of 1850 "working" census' (Newton & Tyler & some "in-the-works" in Hardin Co. & a couple of others), cemetery records (Hardin), etc. Lots of new QUERIES - SURNAMES & RESEARCHERS. THERE'S JUST NO PLACE LIKE TEXAS!! Thank You, Barbara Yancey Dore (aka) RootsLady@msn.com HomePage: http://members.aol.com/RootsLady/

Hello, I am typing this in its entirety from a book written by Robert Cecil McDaniel: Marker Inscription: A vetran of the war of 1812, Isaac Low (1781-1853) migrated to this area from Tennessee in 1828. During the Texas Revolution he operated a nearby ferry across the Sabine River to aid settlers fleeing from the advancing Mexican Army, He later served as a commissioner for Sabine County. His son Jesse Low (1812-1848), whose grave is the earliest marked at this site, donated the land for use as a cemetary. Also buried there are Reddick Pitt Sibley, a captain during the civil war, and Eli Low, whose 1883 murder resulted in a three year feud in the surrounding area. Isaac Low is my husbands ggg-grandfather, is Eli Low, Isaac's son??? why was he murdered, who murdered him, and what was the feud about??? If anyone has the answers to this question please let me know. I am told by the elders in our family that they are kin to all the Low's and probably Lowe's also, in Sabine County, Tx. Also Reddick Pitt Sibley was my husband's gg-grandfather, there is a book out, called The Sibleys in America that is 1700+ pages and is in two volumes, I purchased the book last week and it is very interesting, starts in England in 1597 and goes forward. If anyone wants more information on this book e-mail me and I will send you the information to contact James Scarborough Sibley. I want to thank all the people who have helped me with my search for my roots in East Tx. there is a lot of history there and I would like to have as much as I can research and read about. I also have information on the family and am willing to share what I have. Linda Surratt-White plstyx@aol.com

David, and other EARL researchers, A sister EARL researcher, Gwen McConnell of Rosenberg TX sent me this letter that need to be incorporated in our EARL/GRAY endeavors: "...Your Dec 27th communication with David WILLIAMS is serendipity for me. My understanding was that the Catholic church that I had thought should have the EARL's baptism & marriage records, had burned. Now you have come up with abstracts of the St. John Baptiste des Natchitoches, LA, 1729-1803 records. Immediately, I jump to the supposition that the baptismal sponsor Felicite ETIE is Maria GRAY EARL's sister Late'. Do you have a line on the sponsor Carlos HUOOT? My experience is that sponsers are kin of the child's parents. Did he marry one of Maria's sisters or Richard EARL's sister (if he had a sister)? There were so few people in the area, HUOOT may have been a Catholic neighbor, who was enlisted. Can we EXAMINE the ORIGINAL church documents? Where? Sine are are look for the name "Mathew", not "Martin," we might discover Martin was misread. Maria GRAY EARL's father was "Mathieu", which is the same as Mathew, isn't it? People are really jumping into genealogy. What scares me is that the newer folks, with computers, are spreading bad info without checking it out. Research sometimes is more tedious than thay think. I am not settled on the Benjamin LINDSEY-Amy EARL LINDSEY story (are there 2 or more Amy's)." {folks, this is my family "connection", & I have not ever had any other LINDSEY work except my own to confirm this...Jackie} So, David (or anyone), if you have any comments to add to this, e-mail me, cause Gwen does not use the computer. We sure get spoiled fast by this rapid sharing, don't we? ***Jackie Ashley Pace, Pasadena TX

Hi Kay, Thank you so much for the information, I know our families are related it makes me feel so good when I find connections, especially these names. I do know about the Garlington Book and have tried to find a copy to buy, but I don't think there is a copy around, there is a copy in the Ft. Worth Library, so I will try to get over there to look at it. Do you know of anyone who has a copy for sale? Here is some more information, you may have this info already, I don't have a lot: Bryan Jay Smith Married in 1918 or 1919 in Newton County Mary Elizabeth Smith b. 11-17-1920 Married 4-9-1937 in Hemphill Sabine Co Tx. John David White b.12-14-1914 Richardson Tx d.3-13-1993 in Dallas tx. Have the name dates etc. of this family if you need it, this is the family I am in. Mary divorced John, and remarried Forrest Earl Sims. also have some info on this marriage, I don't know what you need, I have all this on the FTM 3.2 for windows. Attie Lois Smith b. 2-22-1923 Sabine County, Tx Bryan Jay Smith, Jr. b. 5-12-1925 Sabine County, Tx. Albert Vincent Smith b. 11/30/1928 Sabine County, Tx. Wanda Leah Smith b.1/9/1933 Sabine County, Tx Miles Martin Smith b. 9-27-1935 Sabine County, Tx. I have heard there is a Martin Plantation in Lufkin Tx., I don't know if we are related will check that out in the future. Bryan Jay Smith and Mittie Drucella Martin Smith are buried at Fairmount Cemetary, some of the Martins are buried at Mount Sinai Cemetary, and some relatives also buried at Lows Cemetary and Tebo cemetary I think. I am working on getting more information on this family as a lot of the older generation is still alive and am in the process of interviewing them, so I will keep in touch if a door opens I will keep you informed, please keep me informed also and if you need anything else ask, I need it all so if you have anything let me know. Thanks for all your help. doors close, doors open Linda Surratt-White plstyx@aol.com

Dear Linda Surratt-White, If you have connections with all these, we are definately cousins. Daniel Vincent Smith was the son of the 4th wife of William Smith. My ancestor, Edward Smith was a son of William's with his 3rd wife. Bryan Jay Smith married Mittie Drucella Martin. She was the daughter of Albert Hill Martin and Mary E. Sibley (dau of Capt. Reddick Pitt Sibley and Matilda Nancy Ann Low). Albert Hill Martin was a brother to my great great grandmother Martha Ann Martin. Their parents were Aaron Martin and Mary B. Hill (1st married to a Willis and later married an Eddy). My Mother is in the DRT through Aaron Martin. I haven't been able to find out any more info on Mary B. Hill or Aaron Martin for that matter. I'm very interesed in sharing the info I have. I show Easter Ann Miller that married Daniel Vincent Smith was born in GA and her parents were Reuben Miller and Catherine Wolf. My grandfather's first Cousin was Edna McDaniel White. She did a lot of research and wrote "Sabine County Genealogical Sketches" and "They Came to Texas". There is also "The Garlington Family". I'm not personally related to the Garlingtons, but both my Smith and McDaniel family members married Garlingtons, so they were included in this book. These books contain a lot of info on these families of ours. Looking forward to hearing from you. Kay Parker McCary, Milam, Sabine County, Texas

Your wrote: >Did any of your Whites come to Texas from Arkansas? If so, we might have >information to trade...my maiden name is White--my father's sister did the family > waaaaaay back, but brick walled pretty fast with the White name. ------------------------ Mary: If I go back 7 generations I find a WHITE: Elizabeth ophan unknown probably m.Reuben DAVENPORT?- WHITE. Some may have stopped in AR, as I think my GROCE & EARL lines may have made a sojourn these, but I don't think I have much there. Mostly I focus on LA, just before the family came into TX. Most of my WHITE records came from Texas historian, Gifford WHITE & his book on James Taylor WHITE, with additions from various folk I have met to the net. Keep your feelers out. There are eager relatives out there willing to share. *****Jackie Ashley Pace of Pasadena TX

Hey! Kathi, thanks! You were very sweet to look up the Alford name in the Sabine County Marriage Records. I am sure it will be helpful in my research. Many, many thanks, Shirley saalford@worldnet.att.net

Does anyone know Marie McMAHAN, who wrote "HORTON FAMILY F486" in book NACOGDOCHES COUNTY FAMILIES, 1985. She identified Elizabeth Davenport Cooper Groce as an ancestor. I want to know who she was, and what her GROCE connections were. I am a descendant of Mathew EARL & Larkin GROCE of Sabine County, ca 1828. Can anyone help me find Marie? ***Jackie Ashley Pace of Pasadena TX

Nell, it is a is stretch for me to add these, but it might help answer some of the Holt questions. Send what you have, esp any notes of Wm Henry HOLT Thanks, Jackie Pace of Pasadena ---------- > From: NellnTexas <NellnTexas@aol.com> > To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: HOLT > Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:44 AM > > Hi, > > I have a little information on Charity Elizabeth Holt, daughter of William > Henry Holt and Susan Dunman in case anyone needs that. She married into my > Curbello family. > > Nell Whittington > Liberty > > NellnTexas@AOL.com

My husband's grandfather, JAMES EDWARD "ED" ALFORD, was born 23 August 1881 in Sabine County. Married Agnes Marie Moore. They made their home in Anderson County, Texas where they had ten boys. My husband's great grandfather was REDIN (REDDING) ALFORD, born 2 January 1859 in Alabama. Redin's first wife was Delia Moore, second wife Susan Jane Teel. I would like any information on James or Redin Alford and James' siblings, which are, John, Maddie, Alma, Della, Mae Ella, Alfred, Bulla, Wesley, Odale, Burt. Thanks, Shirley Alford saalford@worldnet.att.net

Just thought I'd let you know that I've just added some new cemetery & tombstone pictures to the Sabine County site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsabine/burials/dickey_cemetery.htm Hope you enjoy.....more to come. PS: I'm slowly recovering from my computer/hard disk failure.....and I do mean S-L-O-W-L-Y. Barbara Yancey Dore (aka) RootsLady@email.msn.com HomePage: http://members.aol.com/RootsLady/

Barbara, don't see any of my Whites right now, but my main focus is PROVING that Reuben WHITE was the husband of orphan Elizabeth, father of Nancy (Mrs. Matthew EARL). ***Jackie Pace, Pasadena ---------- > From: Barbara Eberly <beberly@wcu.campus.mci.net> > To: Jackie Pace <jbpace@sprynet.com>; kathi@bellsouth.net; TXSABINE-L@rootsweb.com; EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: WHITE-KIRKLAND-ALLEN-ALDRIDGE > Date: Sunday, December 21, 1997 10:43 AM > > I don't know what happened on my previous message. In any > case, here it is again. I am presuming that most of you got > what I got which was not all I wrote. Barbara > > Barbara Eberly wrote: > > > > I don't see a connection to the previous WHITE data, but I > > thought I might as well include mine since there probably is > > a connection somewhere if we could put together sufficient > > details. > > > > My grandmother was Mary Linnie Pearl White (called May) She > > was born in Tyler, TX on 21 Oct 1895. I have just realized > > that I have not entered her death date in my database, but I > > believe she died in Lufkin, TX in October of 1996 -- just > > shy of her 101st birthday. I do have pictures and videos of > > her 100th birthday party. Unfortunately, I didn't get to > > go. > > Her father was Joseph Isaac Wade WHITE -- born 19 Jul 1870 > in Russell, AL. d. 27 Dec 1961 in Redland Community, > Lufkin, Angelina, > > TX. He was called Wade White. He married Rosa Della > > KIRKLAND on 11 Nov 1892. She was born 4 Dec 1878 near > > Colmesneil, Tyler, TX. She died 25 Dec. 1945 in > > Redland Community, Lufkin, Angelina, TX. > > > > Wade's father was Henry Harrison WHITE born 6 Jun 1840 in > > Russell, AL. He died 9 Jan 1905 in Huntington, > > Angelina, TX. On 11 Dec 1866, in Pike, AL. he > > married Mary Emily ALLEN b. 24 Oct 1848 in AL. d. 9 > > Nov 1930 in Huntington, Angelina, TX. > > > > H.H. White's parents were William Clinton WHITE b. Jan > > 1793. died 1842 in Russell, AL and buried in Concord > > Baptist Cemetery, Salem, Lee, AL. He married Levisa > > ALDRIDGE in 1816 in Baldwin Co, GA. She was born 9 Jun > > 1797 in Columbia, GA. She died 2 Oct 1848 in Russell, > > AL and was buried in Linwood, Cemetery, Columbus, GA. > > > > W. C. WHITE's father was William WHITE born abou 1763. He > > died 1818 in Franklin, GA. William married Mary. > > > > This is the basic information I have on the White family. I > > also have family group sheets on most of these families if > > anyone is interested. > > > > Barbara Eberly > > Cullowhee, NC

Shelley, DOLLARHIDE is a very lateral inlaw line, interesting to add if I don't have to do any research and I have plenty of space on my computer (I do). So if you can indentify Sarah DOLLARHIDE's family, I am interested. **Thanks, Jackie ---------- > From: slee <slee@concentric.net> > To: jbpace@sprynet.com > Subject: Re: WHITE-KIRKLAND-ALLEN-ALDRIDGE > Date: Sunday, December 21, 1997 10:51 AM > > > > Descendants of Reuben Davenport?- White > > > > 2 Martin D. (Elizabeth)- WHITE b: 17 Apr 1795 prob LA > > > d: 11 Mar 1851 in prob Alabama Creek, Trinity Co. TX > > > +Sarah DOLLARHIDE b: 22 Jul 1797 KY > > > m: Abt. 1826 d: 30 Nov 1852 in prob Trinity Co, TX > > *****Jackie, > > Have Lee/Dollarhide if you're interested: > John Bradsher (Bratcher) Lea b. 12/7/1790 St Lawrence Dist of Caswell Co > NC. He d. 1/12/1865 Pulaski Co KY. M Frances Dollarhide 11/24/1802. > > Right area of KY? > > Shelley > slee@concentric.net