I couldn't help but get a vision of the little courthouse squares in East Texas from this. http://members.aol.com/ceharger/raggedflag.htm Enjoy, RootsLady (aka) Barbara Yancey Dore RootsLady@lest-we-forget.com - RootsLady@email.msn.com HomePage: RootsLady's Home, Home On The Web - http://RootsLady.com The OUTHOUSE - Genealogy Humor http://www.lest-we-forget.com/The_Outhouse CC for 8 TX Counties & 1 GA County "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants."

There were many questions regarding who was in the Book I just finished on Sabine Parish. If anyone is interested I would be happy to send that part of the index that they are looking for. Many asked to post the entire index but it would be too large to do this. I dont mind doing individual peeks for anyone. I know how it is to get a book that only a small mention of your family is in. Sorry for the repost but thought I would offer. There are several family lines from and in Sabine County, Texas covered. Kathy

I found this interesting and thought you might also. Cheryl ---------- Life in the 1500's----- Anne Hathaway was the wife of William Shakespeare. She married at the age of 26. This is really unusual for the time. Most people married young, like at the age of 11 or 12. Life was not as romantic as we may picture it. Here are some examples: Anne Hathaway's home was a 3 bedroom house with a small parlor, which was seldom used (only for company), kitchen, and no bathroom. Mother and Father shared a bedroom. Anne had a queen sized bed, but did not sleep alone. She also had 2 other sisters and they shared the bed also with 6 servant girls. (this is before she married) They didn't sleep like we do lengthwise but all laid on the bed crosswise. At least they had a bed. The other bedroom was shared by her 6 brothers and 30 field workers. They didn't have a bed. Everyone just wrapped up in their blanket and slept on the floor. They had no indoor heating so all the extra bodies kept them warm. They were also small people, the men only grew to be about 5'6" and the women were 4'8". SO in their house they had 27 people living. Most people got married in June. Why? They took their yearly bath in May, so they were still smelling pretty good by June, although they were starting to smell, so the brides would carry a bouquet of flowers to hide their b.o. Like I said, they took their yearly bath in May, but it was just a big tub that they would fill with hot water. The man of the house would get the privilege of the nice clean water. Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was pretty thick. Thus, the saying, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water," it was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. I'll describe their houses a little. You've heard of thatch roofs, well that's all they were. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. They were the only place for the little animals to get warm. So all the pets; dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs, all lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery so sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Thus the saying, "it's raining cats and dogs." Since there was nothing to stop things from falling into the house they would just try to clean up a lot. But this posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings from animals could really mess up your nice clean bed, so they found if they would make beds with big posts and hang a sheet over the top it would prevent that problem. That's where those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies came from. When you came into the house you would notice most times that the floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, that's where the saying "dirt poor" came from. The wealthy would have slate floors. That was fine but in the winter they would get slippery when they got wet. So they started to spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they would just keep adding it and adding it until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. So they put a piece of wood at the entry way, a "thresh hold". In the kitchen they would cook over the fire, they had a fireplace in the kitchen/parlor, that was seldom used and sometimes in the master bedroom. They had a big kettle that always hung over the fire and every day they would light the fire and start adding things to the pot. Mostly they ate vegetables, they didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner then leave the leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew would have food in it that had been in there for a month! Thus the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could get a hold of some pork. They really felt special when that happened and when company came over they even had a rack in the parlor where they would bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. That was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and they would all sit around and "chew the fat." If you had money your plates were made out of pewter. Sometimes some of their food had a high acid content and some of the lead would leach out into the food. They really noticed it happened with tomatoes. So they stopped eating tomatoes, for 400 years. Most people didn't have pewter plates though, they all had trenchers, that was a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. They never washed their boards and a lot of times worms would get into the wood. After eating off the trencher with worms they would get "trench mouth." If you were going traveling and wanted to stay at an Inn they usually provided the bed but not the board. The bread was divided according to status. The workers would get the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family would get the middle and guests would get the top, or the "upper crust". They also had lead cups and when they would drink their ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. They would be walking along the road and there would be someone knocked out and they thought they were dead. So they would pick them up and take them home and get them ready to bury. They realized if they took their time about it, the person would wake up. Also, maybe not all of the people they were burying were dead. So they would lay them out on the kitchen table for a couple of days, the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wakeup. That's where the custom of holding a "wake" came from. Since England is so old and small they started running out of places to bury people. So they started digging up some coffins and would take their bones to a house and re-use the grave. They started opening these coffins and found some had scratch marks on the inside. One out of 25 coffins were that way and they realized they had still been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. That is how the saying "graveyard shift" was made. If the bell would ring they would know that someone was "saved by the bell" or he was a "dead ringer". How about that? Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (502) 651-9114 ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------

>From Local news in Utah. A gunman entered the LDS Genealogy research Library this morning. He opened fire, hitting 5 victims, 3 critically and a police officer. Hospitals are reporting that an additional 15 victims have been admitted. For gun shot wounds too trauma. The shooter has died, while in custody, being worked on by Paramedics. Was found to possible be wired with a bomb. It has since been reported that he was not. Two of the critically wounded victim have parished, a security guard, and a elderly woman. The Library is being swept for suspicious packages. The 17 people that locked themselves in on second floor, for their own safety have been safely removed. They apparently lock themselves in for saftey. The shooter entered , KSL News TV station at the Triad Center asking for directions to the LDS Family Library, earlier this morning. LDS spoke person reports that the Temple was not evacuated as earlier reported. A Ryder truck parked at the Triad Center. Believed to be tied to the Shooter is being checked for explosives. A four block area has been evacuated. A possible note left on the windshield of the truck is being leaked but not verified. Cheryl in Utah

Hi All: Have been off-line hear lately. Just got my new computer, sorry was going to let everyone know before I shut it down. Got a Pionex 450 MHZ Pent III. It sure is like grease lighting. This is ole Alabama Bob for now. It will take we 6 months to read since it has been 3 wks. Will get back to everyone later. Thanks and you'all have a good weekend.

To All Whom It May Concern: The purpose of this message is to inform all genealogists & researchers who subscribe to TEXAS Rootsweb Lists, of a very important web site that now has a searchable database of over 1,650 U.S. Regular Army soldiers who once served at the short-lived Buffalo Barracks, between 1835 and 1846. Many of these soldiers had fought in the Indian Wars in Florida and also the War with Mexican, and then the Civil War. It is without doubt that some of the descendants of these men are most likely in every county of the great state of Texas. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT: The 1840 Census of Buffalo, NY lists Colonel James M. Bankhead, of Virginia, and a total 'quantity' of 671 individuals, ranging in age from 1 to 60, as being under his command and/or responsibility. Unfortunately, the census does not list each of these barracks residents by name....only by 'quantity.' (ie. 426 males 20-30 yrs, or 34 females 20-30 yrs) HOWEVER, The Buffalo Barracks Historical Web Site has turned most of the 'quantities' into actual names. The list of these officers and soldiers (and some of their wifes and dependants...see the Barracks Notebook section) are available, free of any charge. The URL for this outstanding web site is: [ http://www.buffalonet.org/army ] There, you will discover the "Descriptive & Historical Register Data of Enlisted Soldiers in the U.S. Army," for those who served at this federal military post on the Niagara Frontier. Also available is a wealth of rare and interesting information pertaining to the Buffalo Barracks and it's unique historic value. I encourage everyone to take the time to visit this site. Perhaps you have an ancestor who once served there? Enjoy your visit, Cliff Williams 104740.372@compuserve.com buffalobarracks@hotbot.com

I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather John H. Parker and his brother James(Jim) Parker. They came to Sabine Co. in the early 1870's and in 1876 they married sisters. John married Margaret Jane Ferguson and Jim married Martha Ferguson. They were daughters of Olly Alexander and Bridget Frances (Johnson) Ferguson. Olly was the son of Olly Alexander Ferguson Sr. and Drucilla Cook. In the census John and James both say they were born in Georgia, James in 1844 and John in 1854. What I'm trying to do is find the county in Ga. they were born in. I've gone to Hemphill and looked in the courthouse for a death certificate for John, and there isn't one. I don't know the death date for James. I've talked to Mrs. Toole that runs the local history museum in the old jailhouse. She knows a great deal about my Ferguson line and some about these Parkers, but their Georgia connections are still a mystery. Any information anyone could give me on John and Jim would be greatly appreciated. Dale Parker dale@worldnetla.net

Is there anyone who could obtain a marriage record copy or instruct me as how to obtain a copy. WILLIAM BIRD REED m. EMMALINE HESTER SMITH 11 JULY 1877, SAN SABA, TX. Thanks Much beth

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_921524007_boundary Content-ID: <0_921524007@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 99-03-15 02:26:49 EST, MToms66729 writes: > I think the marriage record for George Toms and Nancy Grosby may have > burned in the courthouse fire in Sabine County in about 1875. Their marriage > would have been about 1870 - 1875 and would most likely have been in Sabine > County, that being the place of their residence. Thank you for your time and > efforts. MT Thanks for the above info. That explains why my book only shows 300 marriages (just 6 pages) between 1812 and 1875 (most between 1840 and 1875) 1875-1910 there are 108 pages. Teena Phillips --part0_921524007_boundary Content-ID: <0_921524007@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: MToms66729@aol.com Return-path: <MToms66729@aol.com> To: ROSELANE@aol.com Subject: George W. Toms Info Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 02:26:49 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I think the marriage record for George Toms and Nancy Grosby may have burned in the courthouse fire in Sabine County in about 1875. Their marriage would have been about 1870 - 1875 and would most likely have been in Sabine County, that being the place of their residence. Thank you for your time and efforts. MT --part0_921524007_boundary--

I am looking for anyone doing any research that may involve William Preston Anderson that moved to Hemphill area in about 1870-71 from Bossier Parish La. My aunt Vermell Anderson Brust has put together at lot of information, but we are missing some data. There were Clarks, Boyetts Conns, Fullers, Fullens, Harveys etc. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with any input. Best regards, William Kent Anderson PointBlank, TX

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_921074988_boundary Content-ID: <0_921074988@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Teena, Could you look up the Knight families for me? One of the Beard girls married a Richard Knight son of Thomas. I found them in Angelina County but someone told me that they had lived in I think Newton but I'm not sure. And I;m not sure where Permelia Beard and Richard Knight married ? I guess it could have been even in Arkansas? Would you look for some Knight marriages for me please? ============================================ Marriages from 1812 to 1910 there is only one. F.L. Knight married Ida King Dec 4, 1875 officiated by Robert Gellately Hope it helps Teena Phillips --part0_921074988_boundary Content-ID: <0_921074988@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Mary9012@aol.com Return-path: <Mary9012@aol.com> To: ROSELANE@aol.com Subject: Re: [TXSABINE-L] Marriage Look ups Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:49:34 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Teena, Could you look up the Knight families for me? One of the Beard girls married a Richard Knight son of Thomas. I found them in Angelina County but someone told me that they had lived in I think Newton but I'm not sure. And I;m not sure where Permelia Beard and Richard Knight married ? I guess it could have been even in Arkansas? Would you look for some Knight marriages for me please? Thank you Mary Russell Beard --part0_921074988_boundary--

Hi ya'll; I am looking for directions to the Reeves Cem. located close to Red Hill Lake. Was there years and years ago. I need to locate again so I can get pictures. My great great grandfather, Richard Hezekiah Dent, both wifes and one son are buried there. The cemetery is located with in the Sabine National Forrest. As you are heading toward Center from Milam, the exit will be on your left. There is no markings, you just have to know where to turn. lol You can only go so far by vehicle then ya gotta "hoof it". Any help is appericated. Pam Dent Webb

Here are more detailed directions to Oak Hill cemetary. >From Hemphill, take State Hwy 87 S., ten miles to "Six Mile". Turn left on FM 2928 and go approximately three miles to Old Oakhil Road. (if you run out of pavement on FM 2928, you've gone about a half mile too far.) Turn right on this unpaved road, and you'll soon see Oak Hill Baptist Church and Oak Hill Cemetery. Maybe we could all have a get-together there. :) Henry Smith Chareyn@aol.com wrote: > I am looking for directions to Oak Hill Cemetery in Sabine County. I heard it > was near Hemphill. Thanks for any help. > > Charlie -- Panama Hank's Trading Post http://www.panamahank.com

to all: I recieved this from another list and thought ya'll might be interested in an update of this crime. Pam Dent Webb sitting here listen to channel 4 news at 6:00..... DC police have arrested two Galludet college students in connection with the vandalism at Mt. Olivet Cemetary. they plan to arrest at least six more students. according to sources at the college, other students were appalled at listening to these kids brag about what they did; told a security officer at the school; who went to D.C. police. the news shot of the two guys arrested showed one who looked as if he was "smirking" as they took him out the the house into the patrol car. i wanted to smack his face.... i hope they charge them and throw the book at them. thought this news items might be of interest to the lists. ann schade james researching SCHADE/HURLEY in Washington, D.C. researching STEWART, ALVEY, KNOTT in St. Mary's County

Hello List, Does anyone have a book on Texas marriages? Are know of a good one? Need to get a look up for some Beard's? William Albert Beard guessing he might have married around 1870 or so Calvin A Beard married Mary Frances (?) around 1875 Tabitha Beard said to have married a Sapp (?) no puns please LOL Thomas A. Beard married Reine (?) around 1876 or 77 Franklin A Beard married Mary (?) around 1887 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Can someone tell me, does Angelina county have a List? Mary Russell Beard

Charlie I have emailed my brother who lives in Hemphill for directions. I think I know where it is, but I left Hemphill in 1960 and don't trust my memory. Henry F. Smith -- Panama Hank's Trading Post http://www.panamahank.com Chareyn@aol.com wrote: > I am looking for directions to Oak Hill Cemetery in Sabine County. I heard it > was near Hemphill. Thanks for any help. > > Charlie -- Panama Hank's Trading Post http://www.panamahank.com

I am looking for directions to Oak Hill Cemetery in Sabine County. I heard it was near Hemphill. Thanks for any help. Charlie

Forward to all readers : From: Virginia Ewing [mailto:vewing@ctesc.net] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 5:00 PM Subject: LDS FAMILY SEARCH COMING SOON As the director of a LDS Family History Center, I have received a notice from Salt Lake LDS FHL, announcing the Beta testing of Family Search on line. It is not yet up, a problem with a piece of equipment, but will be starting sometimes this month and will be up only a few weeks as a test run. If there is not a lot of interest it will be taken off and not put back on. So spread the word and keep trying to get through. When it comes on line the URL will be: > www.familysearch.org <. I have not been told exactly what will be available but know at least the Ancestral File and Family History Library Catalog will be included. Family Search is the name of the program we have on CDs in all LDS FHCs. Some public libraries also have this program. FS includes the IGI, Ancestral File, Family History Library Catalog, Social Security Death Records, Koran and Vietnam war death records, and Scottish Church Records. For those of you not familiar with the various searches, the IGI is the International Genealogical Index. It includes, in alphabetical order, all of the names that have been sent to the Temples to have ordinances performed in their name. Names in the IGI are usually submitted by members, but not always. Non-members also submit their family names to get them into the IGI. Some of the marriages may have been part of extraction programs. The names were taken from courthouse records and checked and rechecked by several volunteers before being accepted as correct. Most people do try to send in accurate information but there are many mistakes. My advice is, always check the original source. Use the IGI to find where people with your surname would have lived and order the census and court records from that area. Ancestral File is Gedcoms of group and pedigree sheets sent in by members and nonmembers. The name and address of the submitter is included and hopefully will allow you to contact others working on your line. If the address is out of date sometimes a letter to the Membership dept. in Salt Lake will get you a correct address if the person was a member of the LDS church. Once again, the material is only as good as the research that went into it and some of it is pretty bad. Check it out before you 'adopt' it. If you find a mistake on Ancestral File, you can send in your corrections, along with your sources of proof, and it will be noted in the next update. The first submitter does not have to provide proof, but you do, if you are making a correction. You can add additions to a file, or submit a new file. You do not have to be a member to submit material. The Family History Library Catalog is a listing of every book, film and fiche available at the Salt Lake City LDS Family History Library. This allows us to find what is available for each locality, World-Wide. It includes the FHL call numbers and a description of what is included in the film/fiche or book. The material from the books and film/fiche will not be on line. That is not something they can do, at this time. Hopefully it will be a possibility some time in the distant future. The film and fiche will still have to be ordered through FHC. Microfilm and microfiche are the property of the FHL and are sent into the care of the LDS FHC director and must remain under her/his care until returned. For this reason they are never allowed to be taken from the LDS FHC. Almost all of the microfilm and microfiche at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City can be ordered into any LDS FHL, anywhere in the world, but there are a few exceptions. Copyright laws prevent them from using material without the written consent of the owner. Some of the film and fiche where filmed by companies other than the LDS Church and permission to circulate these film to LDS FHCs has been denied. There will be a notice included in the description, saying it cannot be circulated. Many of the SC microfilm where made by a company who has refused permission to allow the film to be circulated, but there are many microfilm available for SC, some covering the same material that is on the restricted film. The LDS FHL is a nonprofit organization, and that is why it still cost only 15 cents a sheet for a microfiche, $3.25 plus tax to rent a microfilm for a month [may be more in other countries] and the SourceGuide and other home use programs are sold at such a reasonable price. We aren't allowed to make a profit, even in the FHCs. The books that are listed are not loaned out but can sometimes be obtained through an Interlibrary loan through your public library. You can request copies of pages and if a book is indexed, by ordering the index you can see if your people would have been listed. In cases where the copyright has expired the book may have been filmed or can be filmed upon request. Never hurts to ask. Virginia Ewing vewing@ctesc.net I thought this would be of intrest. I have heard the list is up and running. Check it out! Pam Dent Webb

Try <A HREF="http://www.funeralnet.com/search.html">Search FuneralNet</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsabine/index.htm">Sabine Co, Texas</A> Teena Phillips

I wonder if anyone as access to the Cemetery listing for McKnight Cemetery in Greenville, Tx or Hunt County I think I understand there are a lot of Morrisons that are buried there. A lot of my Morrisons from Tennessee and Alabama supposed to be buried there. Appreciate any help. Bob Morrison