Nina - Since both your father and grandfather were born in Red River Co., TX, surely the kind folks on the RRC site can provide a few leads for you. I hope you don't mind that I am sending this to the list. None of the names you mention ring a definite bell with me. I'll have to research them to determine anything. I did a preliminary search; nothing yet. Larry Pool Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: NFLTARVER@aol.com [mailto:NFLTARVER@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 12 March, 2003 8:31 PM To: PoolL@theriver.com Subject: Re: LYONS in Red River Co., TX Hi, Yes my maiden name is Lyons. I don't know about the John Lyons you mentioned. My Lyons came from Miss. to Red River Co, Tx between 1891 and 1893. They were in Lowndes Co. and Oktibbeha Co, Miss. I think my George E. Lyons came from New Jersey but not sure about this. My father was Louis Dean Lyons and his father was Clarence Holaday Lyons both born in Red River Co, Tx. Then C.H.'s father was Lemuel Artemus Lyons and his father was William Polemial Lyons (a confederate soldier), and then George E. Lyons. I think George had 5 or 6 kids, W. P. had about 11 kids and Lemuel was married twice and had a child by each marriage. Clarence only had 2 sons. If you want any more info let me know. I hope we connect. Seems like no one is researching the Lyons surname. Nice to hear from you. Nina Lyons Tarver Duncanville, Tx