Jan my Great aunt was Mary Matilda Matlock Sturch Scott, her first husband was Andrew Jackson Sturch.he was the father of Josey, James Jefferson and William B.F. William and my grandfather married Reynolds sisters in Independence Co. AR in the latter part of 1880s. Making my father and William B. F.s children double cousins. I guess that does make us distant cousins. Williams only son taught and was dean at Southwestern in Durant,for many years, so was one of his sons. The other was Sheriff of Bryan Co. OK. I have been in contact with them, to no avail, they have promised but have not followed through. Thank you for answering my post. Wanda in OK

Wanda, I can't help but notice common places we have. Independence Co. Ark points up in my Giddens genealogy from time to time. First,my grandmother Alice Caroline Giddens was a Crabtree born in Independence Co. Ark. on Feb 28, 1881. Her father was George Acorn Crabtree . My charts show my grandmother was christened at the Methodist Church at White Rock in Red River Co. I assume at small child but the years is not stated. George Acorn is buried at White Rock and Alice did marry my grandfather Francis Marion Giddens in Clarksville Nov. 3, 1900. With Geo Crabtree at White Rock & my Giddens at Concord, they lived within a mile or 2 of each other. I also have notes saying when the 4 sons of my GGGG GF Reuben Giddens started migrating from Vermilion Co, ILL to Red River Co Tex around 1830, they took had layovers in Mo and/or Ark to raise a crop. I can't put my hands on it at the moment but I recall in my notes indications at one of the sons may have stayed in Independence Co. Ark for a uncertain period of time and had children born there. (Reuben came later to RR Co about 1840 at the age of about 60 or older) I also have a Crabtree family chart showing a Crabtree marrying in 1934 in Durant, Ok but was born in Tx in 1912. He had a son (Jr) born in Colbert in 1940. This was sent to my dad by a Mary Crabtree of Colbert, Ok in 1992, trying to connect our two Crabtree. Her original question was about a Calvin (Calvary) Giddens ancestor. I called the Mary Crabtree in Colbert just last week, but Mary was in poor health and the family have not been much help as of yet. I did talk to her son Tom that was mentioned in the letter, but he had not information at this time. Well I better cut it off. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <Avonnec@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] I'm one of the new subscribers > Jan my Great aunt was Mary Matilda Matlock Sturch Scott, her first husband > was Andrew Jackson Sturch.he was the father of Josey, James Jefferson and > William B.F. > William and my grandfather married Reynolds sisters in Independence Co. AR > in the latter part of 1880s. Making my father and William B. F.s children > double cousins. > I guess that does make us distant cousins. > Williams only son taught and was dean at Southwestern in Durant,for many > years, so was one of his sons. The other was Sheriff of Bryan Co. OK. I have > been in contact with them, to no avail, they have promised but have not > followed through. > Thank you for answering my post. > Wanda in OK > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Wanda, I have the book "Cemetery Record of Independence Co., Ark." If you need anything looked up In it just let me know. Tomi Forney,TX -----Original Message----- From: Avonnec@aol.com [mailto:Avonnec@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 08:44 AM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] I'm one of the new subscribers Jan my Great aunt was Mary Matilda Matlock Sturch Scott, her first husband was Andrew Jackson Sturch.he was the father of Josey, James Jefferson and William B.F. William and my grandfather married Reynolds sisters in Independence Co. AR in the latter part of 1880s. Making my father and William B. F.s children double cousins. I guess that does make us distant cousins. Williams only son taught and was dean at Southwestern in Durant,for many years, so was one of his sons. The other was Sheriff of Bryan Co. OK. I have been in contact with them, to no avail, they have promised but have not followed through. Thank you for answering my post. Wanda in OK ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237