Thanks Debbie, I had not seen Mike's message. I will look through some more county websites that list more than just tax appraisals. That website is great though and I use it often for research purposes. Meadowbrook was definitely a high quality neighborhood in the 70s. It wouldn't surprise me if that is the house being talked about. I have some friends that still live in that area, but rarely make it out that way anymore. I will try and get out there in the next few days and take a look at it. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx p.s. I have the GoogleMap on my laptop and it is awesome. I really like the feature of being able to mark sites with notes. It isn't up to date though, and I haven't figured out how far out of date it is. I know it is at least over a year out of date, at least for my side of FW. > > From: "Debbie Blanton McCoy" <[email protected]> > Date: 2005/09/08 Thu PM 08:42:06 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > Drew, > > Did you see Mike Gibson's message? He found a house on the Tarrant County > Tax Appraisal District records that was once owned by Charles & Michelle > Ross. He stated that the house was at 1929 Queen Street in Fort Worth. I > looked on the appraisal district web site and that house was originally > owned by a Charles W. Ross and wife Michelle. The value of that house is > listed at $26,700 and is only 700 sq. ft. However, there is another house > at 2001 Queen Street which was originally owned by a Charles M. Ross. It is > valued at $200,000 and has 3,740 sq. ft. in it, so I think that would more > likely be the house that everyone is talking about. > > Queen Street is located in east Fort Worth, right off Meadowbrook Drive. > It's not very far from Meadowbrook Jr. High School where I went to school. > It was moved there in 1970 which is after I graduated from high school and > left Ft. Worth, so I have never seen it. If you will go to Mapquest and put > in the address, it will show you where it is located. > > Debbie Blanton McCoy > Kilgore, TX > > Jim, > > I looked in the on-line Tarrant County Tax Appraisal District records, under > past owners. I found a Charles Michael and Michelle Ross that once owned > land at 1929 Queen Street in Fort Worth. > > According to Yahoo!Maps, it is located in the Southeast section part of the > city bounded on the north by I-30, east by Loop 820, south by Highway 80, > and west by Oakland Avenue. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:11 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > Jim, > > I only have what you and John have mentioned. If you have any information > that would help me track it down, I will be glad to see what I can find. > There are a few local museum/history places that might be able to help. > > Do you have any idea what year it was brought here? That might point me to > a certain part of the city. FW expanded and built in a way over the years > that I could quickly narrow it down to certain parts of the city. There are > a few pockets of very old historic homes, but since it was brought in I > doubt it would be in one of those areas. > > When I was in Clarksville a few years ago, I remember a Victorian home not > to far off the square that I think had just been restored. It was one a > fairly large lot and I believe yellowish color. It was on the west side of > the square and a block off US-82 (I think). Is this a private home or a > business? > > Thanks, > Drew Slate > Fort Worth, Tx > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > Date: 2005/09/07 Wed PM 11:15:45 EDT > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > Drew, > > Did you get the Ross names that bought it and moved it and do you have a > > picture of it. The Gateway to Texas has a photo copy of it. I could > > scan > > an send to you if it would help. It is a huge 3 story Victorian Home. > > It > > was never a school but music lessons etc were given to individuals > > according > > state books and statements. > > Jim G > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:25 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > John and Jim, > > > > > > If you can give me a little more information on this home, I will see > > what I know or can dig up here in FW. There are many historical homes > > here, > > but I am not aware of any history that moved one here from Clarksville. > > > > > > Was this the hotel that you are referring to or a school as one person > > mentioned? Do you know any special connection to it that I might be able > > to > > connect with? If it is still standing, I bet I have seen it at some point > > and if not I will drive by and get some photos, this city ain't that big > > that I haven't been all over it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Drew Slate > > > Fort Worth, tx > > > > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: 2005/09/04 Sun PM 06:37:26 EDT > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > > John, > > > > I read about it somewhere in recent times, must have been in the RRR > > but > > > > not sure. > > > > I will check it out later, on my way out right now. Don't remember > > > > if > > it > > > > gave the names of buyer or not. > > > > Jim G > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:12 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me how to identify the "Victorian House" that was > > moved > > > > to > > > > > Ft. Worth? I visited it as a child, when it was home to a distant > > in-law > > > > of > > > > > mine, and would like to see it again. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 3:25 PM > > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Red River Group: below is the reply to me (Jim G) from Jim > > > > > > Lovett. > > > > I > > > > > > am still a little confused but will give it all a good look next > > time I > > > > am > > > > > > in Clarksville. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > ++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgive my tardiness in replying, but my computer has been out of > > > > > > commission with a virus. I am just now getting it going again. > > > > > > > > > > > > My office, located immediately west of the Episcopal Church (now > > > > > > the > > Old > > > > > > Church Theater) was converted from the Dorsey Hotel in 1969 by > > > > > > Bert > > > > > > Holster. My mother first moved the Red River County Credit Bureau > > into > > > > it > > > > > > and I moved in January 1, 1970 when I finished my term as County > > > > Attorney > > > > > > and moved out of the courthouse. As best as I can recall our > > > > > > street > > > > > > address was 506 West Main. > > > > > > > > > > > > It was located where the washateria is now located. The Connerly > > house > > > > on > > > > > > the north side of my office, where Dr. Kumar's office is now > > located, > > > > was > > > > > > also destroyed when my office burned. The fire was on September > > > > > > 17, > > > > 1980, > > > > > > right at the end of the hottest summer on record. > > > > > > > > > > > > The three story Victorian was immediately west of my office and > > > > > > was > > > > moved > > > > > > and restored in Ft. Worth sometime in the early 1960s. I attended > > > > > > kindergarten there with Miss Hattie Hocker in 1938-9. > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the early homes was located in the center of the block > > > > > > where > > > > Piggly > > > > > > Wiggly was built. The house was the only structure in that block > > > > > > and > > the > > > > > > vegetation had covered it almost completely. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Main Hotel was located east of Stiles and, indeed, behind all > > the > > > > > > businesses on the east side of the square. The hotel spanned the > > entire > > > > > > block north to south. I understand that there was an overhead > > walkway > > > > > > across the street from the Main Hotel to the Opera House, but that > > was > > > > > > before my time. Indeed, I never remember seeing the Opera House, > > which > > > > was > > > > > > just east of the Main Hotel. Our friends Bill Wright and Gladys > > Walker > > > > > > operated a restaurant in the Main Hotel for many years and it was > > the > > > > > > principle meeting place for all our local civic organizations. > > Bobbie > > > > > > Wright and Stanley were their children. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like your group has fun with reminiscing. So enjoy ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon Aug 29 13:06 , 'Jim Giddens' <[email protected]> sent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > My Red River County e-mails buddies (Rootsweb site) have been > > > > > > discussing old hotels in Clarksville. > > > > > > One is the Dorsey Hotel. It this the same building you had > > > > > > your > > > > office > > > > > > in that burned? > > > > > > I remember being in it. In fact you did wills for Sue and me in > > 1972. > > > > > > I look at the wills package, but the street address is not on > > > > > > it. > > > > What > > > > > > was the address? > > > > > > What year was your building burned? > > > > > > Just where was this building in comparison to where the present > > > > > > day > > > > Piggy > > > > > > Wiggly is. > > > > > > Am I correct that a huge 3 story old Victorian house was where > > > > > > the > > > > Piggy > > > > > > Wiggly is, and the house was purchased > > > > > > and moved to Ft Worth. > > > > > > Also what was the name of the old hotel that was behind the > > > > > > Stiles/Blackmon Drug? > > > > > > I tried to call Lucille at home, but no answer. > > > > > > Pardon me for taking you time but thanks for your help. > > > > > > Our group likes to dig into history and memories of places and > > people > > > > of > > > > > > Red River Co. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > Reno, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > > > New content added every business day. 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Drew, You're welcome. If you have a digital camera, will you take a picture of the house and send it to me? I very rarely ever get to Ft. Worth anymore. Debbie McCoy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) Thanks Debbie, I had not seen Mike's message. I will look through some more county websites that list more than just tax appraisals. That website is great though and I use it often for research purposes. Meadowbrook was definitely a high quality neighborhood in the 70s. It wouldn't surprise me if that is the house being talked about. I have some friends that still live in that area, but rarely make it out that way anymore. I will try and get out there in the next few days and take a look at it. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx p.s. I have the GoogleMap on my laptop and it is awesome. I really like the feature of being able to mark sites with notes. It isn't up to date though, and I haven't figured out how far out of date it is. I know it is at least over a year out of date, at least for my side of FW. > > From: "Debbie Blanton McCoy" <[email protected]> > Date: 2005/09/08 Thu PM 08:42:06 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > Drew, > > Did you see Mike Gibson's message? He found a house on the Tarrant County > Tax Appraisal District records that was once owned by Charles & Michelle > Ross. He stated that the house was at 1929 Queen Street in Fort Worth. I > looked on the appraisal district web site and that house was originally > owned by a Charles W. Ross and wife Michelle. The value of that house is > listed at $26,700 and is only 700 sq. ft. However, there is another house > at 2001 Queen Street which was originally owned by a Charles M. Ross. It > is > valued at $200,000 and has 3,740 sq. ft. in it, so I think that would more > likely be the house that everyone is talking about. > > Queen Street is located in east Fort Worth, right off Meadowbrook Drive. > It's not very far from Meadowbrook Jr. High School where I went to school. > It was moved there in 1970 which is after I graduated from high school and > left Ft. Worth, so I have never seen it. If you will go to Mapquest and > put > in the address, it will show you where it is located. > > Debbie Blanton McCoy > Kilgore, TX > > Jim, > > I looked in the on-line Tarrant County Tax Appraisal District records, > under > past owners. I found a Charles Michael and Michelle Ross that once owned > land at 1929 Queen Street in Fort Worth. > > According to Yahoo!Maps, it is located in the Southeast section part of > the > city bounded on the north by I-30, east by Loop 820, south by Highway 80, > and west by Oakland Avenue. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:11 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > Jim, > > I only have what you and John have mentioned. If you have any > information > that would help me track it down, I will be glad to see what I can find. > There are a few local museum/history places that might be able to help. > > Do you have any idea what year it was brought here? That might point me > to > a certain part of the city. FW expanded and built in a way over the years > that I could quickly narrow it down to certain parts of the city. There > are > a few pockets of very old historic homes, but since it was brought in I > doubt it would be in one of those areas. > > When I was in Clarksville a few years ago, I remember a Victorian home not > to far off the square that I think had just been restored. It was one a > fairly large lot and I believe yellowish color. It was on the west side > of > the square and a block off US-82 (I think). Is this a private home or a > business? > > Thanks, > Drew Slate > Fort Worth, Tx > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > Date: 2005/09/07 Wed PM 11:15:45 EDT > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > Drew, > > Did you get the Ross names that bought it and moved it and do you have > > a > > picture of it. The Gateway to Texas has a photo copy of it. I could > > scan > > an send to you if it would help. It is a huge 3 story Victorian Home. > > It > > was never a school but music lessons etc were given to individuals > > according > > state books and statements. > > Jim G > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:25 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > John and Jim, > > > > > > If you can give me a little more information on this home, I will see > > what I know or can dig up here in FW. There are many historical homes > > here, > > but I am not aware of any history that moved one here from Clarksville. > > > > > > Was this the hotel that you are referring to or a school as one > > > person > > mentioned? Do you know any special connection to it that I might be > > able > > to > > connect with? If it is still standing, I bet I have seen it at some > > point > > and if not I will drive by and get some photos, this city ain't that big > > that I haven't been all over it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Drew Slate > > > Fort Worth, tx > > > > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: 2005/09/04 Sun PM 06:37:26 EDT > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > > John, > > > > I read about it somewhere in recent times, must have been in the > > > > RRR > > but > > > > not sure. > > > > I will check it out later, on my way out right now. Don't remember > > > > if > > it > > > > gave the names of buyer or not. > > > > Jim G > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:12 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me how to identify the "Victorian House" that was > > moved > > > > to > > > > > Ft. Worth? I visited it as a child, when it was home to a distant > > in-law > > > > of > > > > > mine, and would like to see it again. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 3:25 PM > > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Red River Group: below is the reply to me (Jim G) from Jim > > > > > > Lovett. > > > > I > > > > > > am still a little confused but will give it all a good look next > > time I > > > > am > > > > > > in Clarksville. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > ++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgive my tardiness in replying, but my computer has been out > > > > > > of > > > > > > commission with a virus. I am just now getting it going again. > > > > > > > > > > > > My office, located immediately west of the Episcopal Church (now > > > > > > the > > Old > > > > > > Church Theater) was converted from the Dorsey Hotel in 1969 by > > > > > > Bert > > > > > > Holster. My mother first moved the Red River County Credit > > > > > > Bureau > > into > > > > it > > > > > > and I moved in January 1, 1970 when I finished my term as County > > > > Attorney > > > > > > and moved out of the courthouse. As best as I can recall our > > > > > > street > > > > > > address was 506 West Main. > > > > > > > > > > > > It was located where the washateria is now located. The Connerly > > house > > > > on > > > > > > the north side of my office, where Dr. Kumar's office is now > > located, > > > > was > > > > > > also destroyed when my office burned. The fire was on September > > > > > > 17, > > > > 1980, > > > > > > right at the end of the hottest summer on record. > > > > > > > > > > > > The three story Victorian was immediately west of my office and > > > > > > was > > > > moved > > > > > > and restored in Ft. Worth sometime in the early 1960s. I > > > > > > attended > > > > > > kindergarten there with Miss Hattie Hocker in 1938-9. > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the early homes was located in the center of the block > > > > > > where > > > > Piggly > > > > > > Wiggly was built. The house was the only structure in that block > > > > > > and > > the > > > > > > vegetation had covered it almost completely. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Main Hotel was located east of Stiles and, indeed, behind > > > > > > all > > the > > > > > > businesses on the east side of the square. The hotel spanned the > > entire > > > > > > block north to south. I understand that there was an overhead > > walkway > > > > > > across the street from the Main Hotel to the Opera House, but > > > > > > that > > was > > > > > > before my time. Indeed, I never remember seeing the Opera House, > > which > > > > was > > > > > > just east of the Main Hotel. Our friends Bill Wright and Gladys > > Walker > > > > > > operated a restaurant in the Main Hotel for many years and it > > > > > > was > > the > > > > > > principle meeting place for all our local civic organizations. > > Bobbie > > > > > > Wright and Stanley were their children. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like your group has fun with reminiscing. So enjoy ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon Aug 29 13:06 , 'Jim Giddens' <[email protected]> > > > > > > sent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > My Red River County e-mails buddies (Rootsweb site) have been > > > > > > discussing old hotels in Clarksville. > > > > > > One is the Dorsey Hotel. It this the same building you had > > > > > > your > > > > office > > > > > > in that burned? > > > > > > I remember being in it. In fact you did wills for Sue and me > > > > > > in > > 1972. > > > > > > I look at the wills package, but the street address is not on > > > > > > it. > > > > What > > > > > > was the address? > > > > > > What year was your building burned? > > > > > > Just where was this building in comparison to where the present > > > > > > day > > > > Piggy > > > > > > Wiggly is. > > > > > > Am I correct that a huge 3 story old Victorian house was where > > > > > > the > > > > Piggy > > > > > > Wiggly is, and the house was purchased > > > > > > and moved to Ft Worth. > > > > > > Also what was the name of the old hotel that was behind the > > > > > > Stiles/Blackmon Drug? > > > > > > I tried to call Lucille at home, but no answer. > > > > > > Pardon me for taking you time but thanks for your help. > > > > > > Our group likes to dig into history and memories of places and > > people > > > > of > > > > > > Red River Co. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > Reno, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > > > New content added every business day. 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