John, (and all) I found the write up of the old Victorian 3 story house in Martha Stroud's book, "Red River County-Gateway to Texas". It has a picture of the house on page 314. It is The Hocker House. There is a history of the house and a detail of occupants over the years, then inthe early 1970's the house was sold to Charles and Michelle Ross from Fort Worth. They moved it to Queen Street in Fort Worth. Martha said they would visit with her at the Carousel (gift shop Martha owned). On Yahoo city and street search, I do not find a Queen Street, there is a Queensbury just west of W-I-35 and south of loop I-820. I find a Charles Ross and a Michelle Ross in Ft Worth but listed at separate addresses and neither on Queensbury. There phone numbers are listed. They are south side of down town F.W. by north of I-820 loop. The house was built in 1890 by Dr Preston Hocker, a 5,000 sq ft house with 10 large rooms plus bathrooms and closets and halls ad turrets. Besides being a doctor, the owned a saw mill and a hardware store. Teels lived there and taught dancing an gymnastics. then sold to Anna Patterson that gave piano lessons, the despair, then during WW II it was divided into apartments. Also, I just e-mailed Judge Lovett for a clarification on the Hocker house as being a different house than the old house where the new P.W. was built. I am now remember that the Hocker house must have been where the bank drive-inn windows are now (but not the main bank), on main just east of the Piggly Wiggly. I had forgotten about that space. Yes that all fits as Judge Lovett said, and the sloping ground toward the church and more slop as it approaches the Delaware Creek. Jim Giddens Paris/Reno, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > Can someone tell me how to identify the "Victorian House" that was moved to > Ft. Worth? I visited it as a child, when it was home to a distant in-law of > mine, and would like to see it again. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 3:25 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > (Red River Group: below is the reply to me (Jim G) from Jim Lovett. I > > am still a little confused but will give it all a good look next time I am > > in Clarksville. > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++ > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > Forgive my tardiness in replying, but my computer has been out of > > commission with a virus. I am just now getting it going again. > > > > My office, located immediately west of the Episcopal Church (now the Old > > Church Theater) was converted from the Dorsey Hotel in 1969 by Bert > > Holster. My mother first moved the Red River County Credit Bureau into it > > and I moved in January 1, 1970 when I finished my term as County Attorney > > and moved out of the courthouse. As best as I can recall our street > > address was 506 West Main. > > > > It was located where the washateria is now located. The Connerly house on > > the north side of my office, where Dr. Kumar's office is now located, was > > also destroyed when my office burned. The fire was on September 17, 1980, > > right at the end of the hottest summer on record. > > > > The three story Victorian was immediately west of my office and was moved > > and restored in Ft. Worth sometime in the early 1960s. I attended > > kindergarten there with Miss Hattie Hocker in 1938-9. > > > > One of the early homes was located in the center of the block where Piggly > > Wiggly was built. The house was the only structure in that block and the > > vegetation had covered it almost completely. > > > > The Main Hotel was located east of Stiles and, indeed, behind all the > > businesses on the east side of the square. The hotel spanned the entire > > block north to south. I understand that there was an overhead walkway > > across the street from the Main Hotel to the Opera House, but that was > > before my time. Indeed, I never remember seeing the Opera House, which was > > just east of the Main Hotel. Our friends Bill Wright and Gladys Walker > > operated a restaurant in the Main Hotel for many years and it was the > > principle meeting place for all our local civic organizations. Bobbie > > Wright and Stanley were their children. > > > > Sounds like your group has fun with reminiscing. So enjoy ... > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > On Mon Aug 29 13:06 , 'Jim Giddens' <[email protected]> sent: > > > > > > > > Jim, > > My Red River County e-mails buddies (Rootsweb site) have been > > discussing old hotels in Clarksville. > > One is the Dorsey Hotel. It this the same building you had your office > > in that burned? > > I remember being in it. In fact you did wills for Sue and me in 1972. > > I look at the wills package, but the street address is not on it. What > > was the address? > > What year was your building burned? > > Just where was this building in comparison to where the present day Piggy > > Wiggly is. > > Am I correct that a huge 3 story old Victorian house was where the Piggy > > Wiggly is, and the house was purchased > > and moved to Ft Worth. > > Also what was the name of the old hotel that was behind the > > Stiles/Blackmon Drug? > > I tried to call Lucille at home, but no answer. > > Pardon me for taking you time but thanks for your help. > > Our group likes to dig into history and memories of places and people of > > Red River Co. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Reno, Tx > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Jim, I looked in the on-line Tarrant County Tax Appraisal District records, under past owners. I found a Charles Michael and Michelle Ross that once owned land at 1929 Queen Street in Fort Worth. According to Yahoo!Maps, it is located in the Southeast section part of the city bounded on the north by I-30, east by Loop 820, south by Highway 80, and west by Oakland Avenue. Mike Gibson Mesquite, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Giddens To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) John, (and all) I found the write up of the old Victorian 3 story house in Martha Stroud's book, "Red River County-Gateway to Texas". It has a picture of the house on page 314. It is The Hocker House. There is a history of the house and a detail of occupants over the years, then inthe early 1970's the house was sold to Charles and Michelle Ross from Fort Worth. They moved it to Queen Street in Fort Worth. Martha said they would visit with her at the Carousel (gift shop Martha owned). On Yahoo city and street search, I do not find a Queen Street, there is a Queensbury just west of W-I-35 and south of loop I-820. I find a Charles Ross and a Michelle Ross in Ft Worth but listed at separate addresses and neither on Queensbury. There phone numbers are listed. They are south side of down town F.W. by north of I-820 loop. The house was built in 1890 by Dr Preston Hocker, a 5,000 sq ft house with 10 large rooms plus bathrooms and closets and halls ad turrets. Besides being a doctor, the owned a saw mill and a hardware store. Teels lived there and taught dancing an gymnastics. then sold to Anna Patterson that gave piano lessons, the despair, then during WW II it was divided into apartments. Also, I just e-mailed Judge Lovett for a clarification on the Hocker house as being a different house than the old house where the new P.W. was built. I am now remember that the Hocker house must have been where the bank drive-inn windows are now (but not the main bank), on main just east of the Piggly Wiggly. I had forgotten about that space. Yes that all fits as Judge Lovett said, and the sloping ground toward the church and more slop as it approaches the Delaware Creek. Jim Giddens Paris/Reno, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > Can someone tell me how to identify the "Victorian House" that was moved to > Ft. Worth? I visited it as a child, when it was home to a distant in-law of > mine, and would like to see it again. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 3:25 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > > > (Red River Group: below is the reply to me (Jim G) from Jim Lovett. I > > am still a little confused but will give it all a good look next time I am > > in Clarksville. > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++ > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > Forgive my tardiness in replying, but my computer has been out of > > commission with a virus. I am just now getting it going again. > > > > My office, located immediately west of the Episcopal Church (now the Old > > Church Theater) was converted from the Dorsey Hotel in 1969 by Bert > > Holster. My mother first moved the Red River County Credit Bureau into it > > and I moved in January 1, 1970 when I finished my term as County Attorney > > and moved out of the courthouse. As best as I can recall our street > > address was 506 West Main. > > > > It was located where the washateria is now located. The Connerly house on > > the north side of my office, where Dr. Kumar's office is now located, was > > also destroyed when my office burned. The fire was on September 17, 1980, > > right at the end of the hottest summer on record. > > > > The three story Victorian was immediately west of my office and was moved > > and restored in Ft. Worth sometime in the early 1960s. I attended > > kindergarten there with Miss Hattie Hocker in 1938-9. > > > > One of the early homes was located in the center of the block where Piggly > > Wiggly was built. The house was the only structure in that block and the > > vegetation had covered it almost completely. > > > > The Main Hotel was located east of Stiles and, indeed, behind all the > > businesses on the east side of the square. The hotel spanned the entire > > block north to south. I understand that there was an overhead walkway > > across the street from the Main Hotel to the Opera House, but that was > > before my time. Indeed, I never remember seeing the Opera House, which was > > just east of the Main Hotel. Our friends Bill Wright and Gladys Walker > > operated a restaurant in the Main Hotel for many years and it was the > > principle meeting place for all our local civic organizations. Bobbie > > Wright and Stanley were their children. > > > > Sounds like your group has fun with reminiscing. So enjoy ... > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > On Mon Aug 29 13:06 , 'Jim Giddens' <[email protected]> sent: > > > > > > > > Jim, > > My Red River County e-mails buddies (Rootsweb site) have been > > discussing old hotels in Clarksville. > > One is the Dorsey Hotel. It this the same building you had your office > > in that burned? > > I remember being in it. In fact you did wills for Sue and me in 1972. > > I look at the wills package, but the street address is not on it. What > > was the address? > > What year was your building burned? > > Just where was this building in comparison to where the present day Piggy > > Wiggly is. > > Am I correct that a huge 3 story old Victorian house was where the Piggy > > Wiggly is, and the house was purchased > > and moved to Ft Worth. > > Also what was the name of the old hotel that was behind the > > Stiles/Blackmon Drug? > > I tried to call Lucille at home, but no answer. > > Pardon me for taking you time but thanks for your help. > > Our group likes to dig into history and memories of places and people of > > Red River Co. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Reno, Tx > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

In a Clarksville Times from Friday February 1959, there is a story about the Sims home being torn down to make room for the new Piggley Wiggley store. The original log building was build before 1842 for J. J. Musgrove. The building was occupied in 1842 by Ebeneazer Allen. Later Capt M. L. Sims held the property until it was sold to George Sunkel for the new store location. There is a picture of the outer walls being torn down to show the original log rooms. Did not get the date of the paper other than Friday Feb and I was researching the 1959 book. Tom Trissell Clarksville TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Hotel information (Clarksville) > > Also, I just e-mailed Judge Lovett for a clarification on the Hocker > house > as being a different house than the old house where the new P.W. was > built. > I am now remember that the Hocker house must have been where the bank > drive-inn windows are now (but not the main bank), on main just east of > the > Piggly Wiggly. I had forgotten about that space. Yes that all fits as > Judge Lovett said, and the sloping ground toward the church and more slop > as it approaches the Delaware Creek. > > Jim Giddens > Paris/Reno, Tx