Yes, perhaps my experience will help. My ggfather and children were on a census but ten years later had disappeared, I found him by reading the entire census record and discovered a GW Bates had the same children's name as my ggfather, GWButts, so can assume the census taker wrote down the wrong name. Apparently my ggfather could not read nor write because some of the land records was signed with an "X", so he wouldn't have been aware of the mistake; and may not have been very eager to help. Billy----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce A King" <jkin467@juno.com> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Census Records Question >A lady and I have connected our gr grandparents through a DNA project, > however, through years of searching and every different spelling of their > names, we have never found them on a census record anywhere--I even hired > a professional to do the census check and he couldn't find anything - so, > my question is, why would there be people that never show up on a census > record? Has anyone else had this problem? Were the census records so > inaccurate that this could happen? Anyone have any opinions on this? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Registration Discount ends Sunday, June 10th --- but there is still time to register on line or get your mail-in registration postmarked. We have many who have come every year! If you've never been, come give it a try! In Search of Unknown Generations at the 11th Annual ANGELINA COLLEGE GENEALOGY CONFERENCE* Lufkin, Texas on July 19 - 21, 2007 http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy.htm * Certified by the Texas Education Agency as a Certified Professional Educator (CPE) Provider * Certificate provided to qualifying teachers. This is an opportunity to attend lectures by some of the region's most popular speakers. Choose from thirty different topics including military, maps, using today's technology, cemetery research & related records, newspaper research, DNA, common surnames, racial mixtures in the South, Republic of Texas ancestry and much more! 2007 Faculty: Desmond Walls Allen * Trevia Wooster Beverly * Carolyn Earle Billingsley * Emily Anne Croom * Charlie Gardes * Pat Gordon * Melvin C. Johnson * Don Raney * John A. Sellers Syllabus & Handouts. Book Vendors and Exhibits Take a look at the full program, speakers, registration form, etc. at http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy.htm For questions, please contact Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas 713.864-6862 treviawbeverly@houston.rr.com Assistant Coordinator & Program Chair

In a message dated 6/8/07 10:30:45 AM Central Daylight Time, samples@1starnet.com writes: The index is available. It has name, birth and death date if available, and cemetery, no further information. You can also order special order a book for a specific cemetery. The prices vary. See the "published sources" section of the TXGenWeb page and there is a link to further information. Cynthia Thanks, Cynthia! We went to the library in Clarksville and made copies of the pages we needed for the Clarksville Baptist Cemetery. Everybody in Red River/Larmar counties are so helpful and friendly. They have a map of the Clarksville Cemetery which made finding the section easier. Old Shamrock was fascinating. And the Fish Fry was delicious! We had a great trip and will be talking about it for years! .··-.¸.-··. (`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´) .··-.¸.-··. `·. .·´ «..* Edith *..» `·. .·` (¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I would like to know about Jim Roberts also. I have Roberts in RR County. JO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Dilbeck" <donnadilbeck@classicnet.net> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Hi Beverly, > I have ties to the Monkhouse family....my great aunt married Gene > Monkhouse > ...son of Corley M. .. I am related to Luther Monroe Mowery thru my > Hunkapillar family..... My sister in law are just nearly realated....but > we > are not..by blood... she is the grand daughter of Vela Monkhouse and if > memory is correct...Charley.... Can you tell me more about the Jim > Roberts? > I am related to some Roberts too.... Thanks Donna Ervin Dilbeck > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverly Presson" <bevpresson@sbcglobal.net> > To: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net>; <txredriv@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > >> >> James and Susan had three children, two of which are also buried at >> Hopewell. Lucinda married Jim Roberts, Frances married Charley "Bud" >> Monkhouse. Luther Monroe I believe is buried at Idabel. >> Beverly >> Bakersfield, CA >> >> Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: >> Thanks so much Beverly, >> I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not >> know >> of the connection. >> I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", >> that >> sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. >> I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an >> outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points >> and to be able to conserve time. >> Jim G >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Beverly Presson >> To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >> >> >> Jim: >> Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward >> Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is >> buried at Hopewell. >> Beverly >> Bakersfield, CA >> >> Jim Giddens wrote: >> No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens >> A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all >> the >> time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife >> remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried >> in >> Lamar Co. >> Jim G >> p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the >> cemetery. >> Only Mowery in the Cemetery. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Gibson" >> To: ; >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM >> Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >> >> >>> Jim, >>> >>> The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, >>> buried at Concord. >>> Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. >>> 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the >>> same Malinda. >>> >>> Mike Gibson >>> Mesquite, Texas >>> >>> >>>>From: "Jim Giddens" >>>>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >>>>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >>>>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>>>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >>>> >>>>Genealogy group: >>>> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >>>> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >>>> the early 1800s. >>>> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >>>> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >>>> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >>>> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >>>> was a brother of Malinda. >>>> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >>>> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >>>> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >>>> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >>>> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >>>> Monday night. >>>> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >>>> sure to be asked. >>>>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>>>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>>>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>>>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>>>know how much longer that will be. >>>>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>>>Jim Giddens >>>>Paris, Tx >>>>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>>>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>>>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>>>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried >>>>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dub Mowery told me today(e-mail) that it is the same reunion group. Some ask to have it in Idabel this year. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Presson" <bevpresson@sbcglobal.net> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > There use to be a Mowery reunion at Jacksonville, TX each summer, not sure > if it still takes place. > Beverly > Bakersfield, CA > > Donna Dilbeck <donnadilbeck@classicnet.net> wrote: > Jim, > Some of the people that are going to the Mowery reunion are related thru > the > Hunkapillar line. They married into the Mowery family. My great > grandmother was a Hunkapillar sister to these that married into the line. > Due to my recent surgery I will not be able to attend the reunion this > year > and sure do have regrets that I cannot attend. I know that what you have > to > say will be interesting. Have a safe trip. Donna Dilbeck > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" > To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > >> Thanks so much Beverly, >> I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not >> know of the connection. >> I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", >> that sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. >> I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an >> outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points >> and to be able to conserve time. >> Jim G >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Beverly Presson >> To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >> >> >> Jim: >> Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward >> Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is >> buried at Hopewell. >> Beverly >> Bakersfield, CA >> >> Jim Giddens wrote: >> No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens >> A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all >> the >> time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife >> remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried >> in >> Lamar Co. >> Jim G >> p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the >> cemetery. >> Only Mowery in the Cemetery. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Gibson" >> To: ; >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM >> Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >> >> >> > Jim, >> > >> > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, >> 1881, >> > buried at Concord. >> > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born >> Sept. >> > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be >> the >> > same Malinda. >> > >> > Mike Gibson >> > Mesquite, Texas >> > >> > >> >>From: "Jim Giddens" >> >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >> >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >> >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >> >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >> >> >> >>Genealogy group: >> >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >> >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >> >> the early 1800s. >> >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection >> to >> >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation >> on >> >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >> >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt >> Giddens >> >> was a brother of Malinda. >> >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >> >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt >> Giddens >> >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >> >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >> >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this >> past >> >> Monday night. >> >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >> >> sure to be asked. >> >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back >> in >> >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie >> will >> >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great >> grandparent. >> >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >> >>know how much longer that will be. >> >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >> >>Jim Giddens >> >>Paris, Tx >> >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in >> 1831 >> >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >> >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >> >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she >> remarried >> >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Beverly, I have ties to the Monkhouse family....my great aunt married Gene Monkhouse ...son of Corley M. .. I am related to Luther Monroe Mowery thru my Hunkapillar family..... My sister in law are just nearly realated....but we are not..by blood... she is the grand daughter of Vela Monkhouse and if memory is correct...Charley.... Can you tell me more about the Jim Roberts? I am related to some Roberts too.... Thanks Donna Ervin Dilbeck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Presson" <bevpresson@sbcglobal.net> To: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net>; <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > James and Susan had three children, two of which are also buried at > Hopewell. Lucinda married Jim Roberts, Frances married Charley "Bud" > Monkhouse. Luther Monroe I believe is buried at Idabel. > Beverly > Bakersfield, CA > > Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: > Thanks so much Beverly, > I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not know > of the connection. > I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", that > sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. > I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an > outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points > and to be able to conserve time. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beverly Presson > To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > > Jim: > Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward > Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is > buried at Hopewell. > Beverly > Bakersfield, CA > > Jim Giddens wrote: > No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens > A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all the > time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife > remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried in > Lamar Co. > Jim G > p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the > cemetery. > Only Mowery in the Cemetery. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gibson" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM > Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > >> Jim, >> >> The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, >> buried at Concord. >> Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. >> 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the >> same Malinda. >> >> Mike Gibson >> Mesquite, Texas >> >> >>>From: "Jim Giddens" >>>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >>>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >>>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >>> >>>Genealogy group: >>> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >>> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >>> the early 1800s. >>> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >>> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >>> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >>> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >>> was a brother of Malinda. >>> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >>> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >>> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >>> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >>> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >>> Monday night. >>> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >>> sure to be asked. >>>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>>know how much longer that will be. >>>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>>Jim Giddens >>>Paris, Tx >>>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried >>>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James and Susan had three children, two of which are also buried at Hopewell. Lucinda married Jim Roberts, Frances married Charley "Bud" Monkhouse. Luther Monroe I believe is buried at Idabel. Beverly Bakersfield, CA Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: Thanks so much Beverly, I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not know of the connection. I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", that sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points and to be able to conserve time. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Presson To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion Jim: Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is buried at Hopewell. Beverly Bakersfield, CA Jim Giddens wrote: No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all the time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried in Lamar Co. Jim G p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the cemetery. Only Mowery in the Cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibson" To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Jim, > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, > buried at Concord. > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the > same Malinda. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >> >>Genealogy group: >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >> the early 1800s. >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >> was a brother of Malinda. >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >> Monday night. >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >> sure to be asked. >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>know how much longer that will be. >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>Jim Giddens >>Paris, Tx >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Ami Bookman <mattsprincess5@yahoo.com> To: Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 1:49:30 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion Matthias is my GGG-grandfather and he died during the Civil War in a POW camp in Indiana. He died the day after Christmas of pneumonia. J.R was also in the Civil War with his father but he made it out of the war ok and returned back to Clarksville, TX. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> To: Red River Co Tx Rootsweb <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 12:17:35 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion Thanks so much Beverly, I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not know of the connection. I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", that sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points and to be able to conserve time. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Presson To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion Jim: Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is buried at Hopewell. Beverly Bakersfield, CA Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all the time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried in Lamar Co. Jim G p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the cemetery. Only Mowery in the Cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibson" To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Jim, > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, > buried at Concord. > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the > same Malinda. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >> >>Genealogy group: >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >> the early 1800s. >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >> was a brother of Malinda. >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >> Monday night. >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >> sure to be asked. >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>know how much longer that will be. >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>Jim Giddens >>Paris, Tx >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. 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There use to be a Mowery reunion at Jacksonville, TX each summer, not sure if it still takes place. Beverly Bakersfield, CA Donna Dilbeck <donnadilbeck@classicnet.net> wrote: Jim, Some of the people that are going to the Mowery reunion are related thru the Hunkapillar line. They married into the Mowery family. My great grandmother was a Hunkapillar sister to these that married into the line. Due to my recent surgery I will not be able to attend the reunion this year and sure do have regrets that I cannot attend. I know that what you have to say will be interesting. Have a safe trip. Donna Dilbeck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Thanks so much Beverly, > I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not > know of the connection. > I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", > that sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. > I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an > outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points > and to be able to conserve time. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beverly Presson > To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > > Jim: > Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward > Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is > buried at Hopewell. > Beverly > Bakersfield, CA > > Jim Giddens wrote: > No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens > A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all > the > time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife > remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried > in > Lamar Co. > Jim G > p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the > cemetery. > Only Mowery in the Cemetery. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gibson" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM > Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > > > Jim, > > > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, > 1881, > > buried at Concord. > > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born > Sept. > > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be > the > > same Malinda. > > > > Mike Gibson > > Mesquite, Texas > > > > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" > >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com > >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" > >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 > >> > >>Genealogy group: > >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday > >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in > >> the early 1800s. > >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection > to > >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation > on > >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a > >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt > Giddens > >> was a brother of Malinda. > >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, > >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt > Giddens > >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. > >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was > >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this > past > >> Monday night. > >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for > >> sure to be asked. > >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back > in > >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie > will > >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great > grandparent. > >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never > >>know how much longer that will be. > >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. > >>Jim Giddens > >>Paris, Tx > >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in > 1831 > >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that > >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. > >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she > remarried > >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Some of the people that are going to the Mowery reunion are related thru the Hunkapillar line. They married into the Mowery family. My great grandmother was a Hunkapillar sister to these that married into the line. Due to my recent surgery I will not be able to attend the reunion this year and sure do have regrets that I cannot attend. I know that what you have to say will be interesting. Have a safe trip. Donna Dilbeck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Thanks so much Beverly, > I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not > know of the connection. > I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", > that sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. > I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an > outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points > and to be able to conserve time. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beverly Presson > To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > > Jim: > Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward > Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is > buried at Hopewell. > Beverly > Bakersfield, CA > > Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: > No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens > A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all > the > time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife > remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried > in > Lamar Co. > Jim G > p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the > cemetery. > Only Mowery in the Cemetery. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Gibson" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM > Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > > > > Jim, > > > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, > 1881, > > buried at Concord. > > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born > Sept. > > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be > the > > same Malinda. > > > > Mike Gibson > > Mesquite, Texas > > > > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" > >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com > >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" > >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 > >> > >>Genealogy group: > >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday > >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in > >> the early 1800s. > >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection > to > >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation > on > >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a > >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt > Giddens > >> was a brother of Malinda. > >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, > >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt > Giddens > >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. > >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was > >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this > past > >> Monday night. > >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for > >> sure to be asked. > >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back > in > >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie > will > >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great > grandparent. > >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never > >>know how much longer that will be. > >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. > >>Jim Giddens > >>Paris, Tx > >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in > 1831 > >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that > >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. > >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she > remarried > >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks so much Beverly, I remember making notes of the Thoms graves at Hopewell but I did not know of the connection. I will probably slip your point into my presentation. "Presentation", that sounds like a big word for a old boy just "rambling" on in person. I keep turning up new (old) information and I still have not made me an outline, I better get that done to help me to not skip over main points and to be able to conserve time. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Presson To: Jim Giddens ; txredriv@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion Jim: Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is buried at Hopewell. Beverly Bakersfield, CA Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all the time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried in Lamar Co. Jim G p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the cemetery. Only Mowery in the Cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibson" To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Jim, > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, > buried at Concord. > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the > same Malinda. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >> >>Genealogy group: >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >> the early 1800s. >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >> was a brother of Malinda. >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >> Monday night. >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >> sure to be asked. >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>know how much longer that will be. >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>Jim Giddens >>Paris, Tx >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 6/7/07 7:53:01 PM Central Daylight Time, mikegibsonathome@msn.com writes: I just got my "Index to Burial, Cemetery and Death Records in Red River County, Texas" today, and does not have a listing for Abraham Wagley Can you still order this? I thought it was out of print and you could only make copies of needed pages. .··-.¸.-··. (`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´) .··-.¸.-··. `·. .·´ «..* Edith *..» `·. .·` (¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸) In loving memory of Elizabeth B. Post August 8, 2006 Co-Coordinator: Heartmade Blessings Comfortghan Program "Caring Hearts, Touching Lives, One Stitch at a Time" _http://www.heartmadeblessings.org/_ (http://www.heartmadeblessings.org/) A Member of CrochetList Admin ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

The index is available. It has name, birth and death date if available, and cemetery, no further information. You can also order special order a book for a specific cemetery. The prices vary. See the "published sources" section of the TXGenWeb page and there is a link to further information. Cynthia ----- Original Message ----- From: <NANAREB@aol.com> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Wagley > > > In a message dated 6/7/07 7:53:01 PM Central Daylight Time, > mikegibsonathome@msn.com writes: > > I just got my "Index to Burial, Cemetery and Death Records in Red River > County, Texas" today, and does not have a listing for Abraham Wagley > > Can you still order this? I thought it was out of print and you could > only > make copies of needed pages. > > > .··-.¸.-··. (`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´) .··-.¸.-··. > `·. .·´ «..* Edith *..» `·. .·` > (¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸) > In loving memory of Elizabeth B. Post August 8, 2006 > Co-Coordinator: Heartmade Blessings Comfortghan Program > "Caring Hearts, Touching Lives, One Stitch at a Time" > _http://www.heartmadeblessings.org/_ (http://www.heartmadeblessings.org/) > A Member of CrochetList Admin > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jim: Jame's wife was Susie Thoms, sister to my gg grandfather, William Edward Thoms. Susie married Robert Monkhouse after the dead of James and is buried at Hopewell. Beverly Bakersfield, CA Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all the time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried in Lamar Co. Jim G p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the cemetery. Only Mowery in the Cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibson" To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Jim, > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, > buried at Concord. > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the > same Malinda. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens , txredriv@rootsweb.com >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >> >>Genealogy group: >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >> the early 1800s. >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >> was a brother of Malinda. >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >> Monday night. >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >> sure to be asked. >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>know how much longer that will be. >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>Jim Giddens >>Paris, Tx >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, not the same, it is her mother, wife of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens A little strange for daughter to have the same name but boys do it all the time. Middle names probably different. I think J.R. Mowery wife remarried in Lamar County but I forget the name. She is probably buried in Lamar Co. Jim G p.s. poor J.R. Mowery, buried all alone over in the corner of the cemetery. Only Mowery in the Cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibson" <mikegibsonathome@msn.com> To: <jimgidd@suddenlink.net>; <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion > Jim, > > The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, > buried at Concord. > Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. > 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the > same Malinda. > > Mike Gibson > Mesquite, Texas > > >>From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> >>Reply-To: Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net>, txredriv@rootsweb.com >>To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 >> >>Genealogy group: >> I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >> (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in >> the early 1800s. >> I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >> the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on >> Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a >> Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens >> was a brother of Malinda. >> It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >> James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >> was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. >> I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >> connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >> Monday night. >> I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for >> sure to be asked. >>The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >>Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >>be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. >>I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >>know how much longer that will be. >>Say a few words for me for Saturday. >>Jim Giddens >>Paris, Tx >>p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >>or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >>out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. >>I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried >>in Lamar County after Mathias died. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Jim, The index shows J.R. Mowery born Dec. 24, 1839, died October 25, 1881, buried at Concord. Could not find Malinda Mowery, but I did find Malinda Giddens born Sept. 25, 1826, died November 30, 1851, buried at Concord. This may not be the same Malinda. Mike Gibson Mesquite, Texas >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> >Reply-To: Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net>, txredriv@rootsweb.com >To: "Red River Co Tx Rootsweb" <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Mowery Reunion >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:29:28 -0500 > >Genealogy group: > I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday >(9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in the >early 1800s. > I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to >the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on Lt. >J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a Confederate >soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens was a brother >of Malinda. > It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, >James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens >was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. > I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was >connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past >Monday night. > I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for sure >to be asked. >The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in >Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will >be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. > I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never >know how much longer that will be. >Say a few words for me for Saturday. >Jim Giddens >Paris, Tx >p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 >or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that >out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. I >will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried in >Lamar County after Mathias died. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just got my "Index to Burial, Cemetery and Death Records in Red River County, Texas" today, and does not have a listing for Abraham Wagley. Mike Gibson Mesquite, Texas >From: "Peggy" <pegbh@verizon.net> >Reply-To: Peggy <pegbh@verizon.net>, txredriv@rootsweb.com >To: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net>, <txredriv@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Wagley >Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:09:13 -0500 > >Hi, > > Does anyone have burial records for an Abraham Wagley in RR county? I >am >trying to sort the family out, talking to another person, and I think we >may >have the same person, just not sure. He was in the 1870 RR census with wife >Catherine, and daughter Mary. Abraham was born about 1825 and not sure when >he died. If we can find something, it surely would help. > Thank you all for your time. >Peggy > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Drew, I am getting your e-mails bounced back to me. I have drew-slate@charter.net This must be wrong. Help me out please. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx jimgidd@suddenlink.net

Hi, Does anyone have burial records for an Abraham Wagley in RR county? I am trying to sort the family out, talking to another person, and I think we may have the same person, just not sure. He was in the 1870 RR census with wife Catherine, and daughter Mary. Abraham was born about 1825 and not sure when he died. If we can find something, it surely would help. Thank you all for your time. Peggy

Genealogy group: I have been asked to a Mowery reunion in Idabel, Ok this Saturday (9th). My GG GF's sister, Malinda Giddens married Mathias Mowery in the early 1800s. I have been asked to give my presentation on my Giddens connection to the Mowerys in the a.m. and in the afternoon to give my presentation on Lt. J.R. Giddens that died in the Indian battle in Jan 1865 as a Confederate soldier assigned to the Texas Indian Frontier. Lt Giddens was a brother of Malinda. It is interesting that Mathias & Malinda named one of there sons, James Richard (Mowery), same given name as Lt. Giddens, but Lt Giddens was still a boy when the other J.R. was born. I did give the Lt Giddens and some information on the forts he was connected with to the Paris, Son of the Confederate meeting this past Monday night. I feel a little awkward being asked to speak, but I am honored for sure to be asked. The reunion will be at the Choctaw Community Center. I will be back in Paris by 6 for a birthday party for my only great grandchild. Addie will be 4. It is great that any child gets to know their great grandparent. I hope to put more memories in her head as she grows up, but we never know how much longer that will be. Say a few words for me for Saturday. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. Lt Giddens was born in 1829 and J.R. Mowery was born either in 1831 or 1839. My plot is smeared at the date, so I will have to check that out. Also, J.R. Mowery is buried at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. I will need to check on where Malinda was buried. I think she remarried in Lamar County after Mathias died.