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    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Randall Jones
    3. John Blanton was my ancestor also. His granddaughter Mehulda (daughter of David and Susannah_ married Henry G. Andrews. Any one know his burial site? Randall Jones Ennis, Tx -----Original Message----- From: txredriv-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txredriv-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bridget Stiverson Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:51 To: txredriv@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker I always wondered whether Edward West had fought during the Texas Revolution, but never had the time to look. He has always been referred to as "Major" West and this was because of his limited role in the Civil War. I was greatly surprised today to see him listed as a 2nd Lieutenant with Becknell on the link provided by Debbie and just wanted to say thank you - I now have a new avenue to go down in the research of my family in Texas! Bridget Stiverson > To: txredriv@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:27:59 -0600 > From: blantonroots@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > Hi, Jim. You can see a list of the men who served with Becknell from > July 14, 1836 - Aug 31, 1836 at http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/t/beckw_2t.htm. > My ancestor (and Sharon Black's), John Blanton, is on the list and > shown to be 75 years of age. These are the men that served during the > time of the Battle of San Jacinto. He had other units that served at > other times and some of those units have also been transcribed and can > be found at http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/rep_rev4.htm#beckw_1. > > Debbie Blanton McCoy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> > To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:52 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > > > Tom and all, > > Is there as list of the men that served with Becknell. My GGG > > Grandfather Richard F Giddens also served in the Black Hawk War with > > the Vermilion County (ILL) Volunteers in the Company of Captain John > > B > > Thomas. He mustered into service by Col Isaac R Moores on 23 day of May > > 1832. He was "2 Sergt". His son-in-law Henry Shockey was in the same > > unit as a Pvt. Shockey came to Texas also with RFG in 1833 and later > > had > > land in northeast Lamar Co. (use to be RR Co). There is a Shockey > > Prairie shown in that area, I assume it was name for him. > > I have always wondered if RFG served with Becknell and/or Stiles, but > > have never found any documentation. RFG would have been 35 when he came > > to RR Co in 1833. > > Hope all had at Great Thanksgiving Day (week) as I have had. > > If anyone is going to the Becknell site and would like for me to go > > with them or meet them there, let me know and if my calendar is > > clear, I will go with you or we will come up a time/day that will > > work. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris (Reno), Tx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "tom watson" <DRtom_watson@msn.com> > > To: "red river" <txredriv@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > > > > >> Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier > >> before he came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an > >> ensign and his deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after > >> him. In 1828 his first political office was that of J.P. of Saline > >> County Missouri. Later that year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. > >> During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia > >> from Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. > >> In Texas he was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia > >> which protected the settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in > >> Northeast Texas. In 1836 He took the militia to The battle of San > >> Jacinto to fight but arrived there shortly after the battle had > >> ended. He > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: > > 11/24/2007 5:58 PM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/25/2007 11:49:18
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Debbie
    3. Hi, Jim. You can see a list of the men who served with Becknell from July 14, 1836 - Aug 31, 1836 at http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/t/beckw_2t.htm. My ancestor (and Sharon Black's), John Blanton, is on the list and shown to be 75 years of age. These are the men that served during the time of the Battle of San Jacinto. He had other units that served at other times and some of those units have also been transcribed and can be found at http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/rep_rev4.htm#beckw_1. Debbie Blanton McCoy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > Tom and all, > Is there as list of the men that served with Becknell. My GGG > Grandfather Richard F Giddens also served in the Black Hawk War > with the Vermilion County (ILL) Volunteers in the Company of Captain John > B > Thomas. He mustered into service by Col Isaac R Moores on 23 day of May > 1832. He was "2 Sergt". His son-in-law Henry Shockey was in the same > unit as a Pvt. Shockey came to Texas also with RFG in 1833 and later > had > land in northeast Lamar Co. (use to be RR Co). There is a Shockey > Prairie shown in that area, I assume it was name for him. > I have always wondered if RFG served with Becknell and/or Stiles, but > have never found any documentation. RFG would have been 35 when he came > to RR Co in 1833. > Hope all had at Great Thanksgiving Day (week) as I have had. > If anyone is going to the Becknell site and would like for me to go with > them or meet them there, let me know and if my calendar is clear, I will > go > with you or we will come up a time/day that will work. > > Jim Giddens > Paris (Reno), Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tom watson" <DRtom_watson@msn.com> > To: "red river" <txredriv@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:33 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > >> Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier before he >> came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an ensign and his >> deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after him. In 1828 his first >> political office was that of J.P. of Saline County Missouri. Later that >> year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. >> During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia from >> Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. In Texas he >> was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia which protected the >> settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in Northeast Texas. In 1836 He >> took >> the militia to The battle of San Jacinto to fight but arrived there >> shortly after the battle had ended. He > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: > 11/24/2007 5:58 PM >

    11/25/2007 05:27:59
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Bridget Stiverson
    3. I always wondered whether Edward West had fought during the Texas Revolution, but never had the time to look. He has always been referred to as "Major" West and this was because of his limited role in the Civil War. I was greatly surprised today to see him listed as a 2nd Lieutenant with Becknell on the link provided by Debbie and just wanted to say thank you - I now have a new avenue to go down in the research of my family in Texas! Bridget Stiverson > To: txredriv@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:27:59 -0600 > From: blantonroots@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > Hi, Jim. You can see a list of the men who served with Becknell from July > 14, 1836 - Aug 31, 1836 at http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/t/beckw_2t.htm. > My ancestor (and Sharon Black's), John Blanton, is on the list and shown to > be 75 years of age. These are the men that served during the time of the > Battle of San Jacinto. He had other units that served at other times and > some of those units have also been transcribed and can be found at > http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/rep_rev4.htm#beckw_1. > > Debbie Blanton McCoy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> > To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:52 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > > > Tom and all, > > Is there as list of the men that served with Becknell. My GGG > > Grandfather Richard F Giddens also served in the Black Hawk War > > with the Vermilion County (ILL) Volunteers in the Company of Captain John > > B > > Thomas. He mustered into service by Col Isaac R Moores on 23 day of May > > 1832. He was "2 Sergt". His son-in-law Henry Shockey was in the same > > unit as a Pvt. Shockey came to Texas also with RFG in 1833 and later > > had > > land in northeast Lamar Co. (use to be RR Co). There is a Shockey > > Prairie shown in that area, I assume it was name for him. > > I have always wondered if RFG served with Becknell and/or Stiles, but > > have never found any documentation. RFG would have been 35 when he came > > to RR Co in 1833. > > Hope all had at Great Thanksgiving Day (week) as I have had. > > If anyone is going to the Becknell site and would like for me to go with > > them or meet them there, let me know and if my calendar is clear, I will > > go > > with you or we will come up a time/day that will work. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris (Reno), Tx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "tom watson" <DRtom_watson@msn.com> > > To: "red river" <txredriv@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > > > > >> Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier before he > >> came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an ensign and his > >> deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after him. In 1828 his first > >> political office was that of J.P. of Saline County Missouri. Later that > >> year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. > >> During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia from > >> Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. In Texas he > >> was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia which protected the > >> settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in Northeast Texas. In 1836 He > >> took > >> the militia to The battle of San Jacinto to fight but arrived there > >> shortly after the battle had ended. He > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: > > 11/24/2007 5:58 PM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007

    11/25/2007 03:50:33
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Jim Giddens
    3. Tom and all, Is there as list of the men that served with Becknell. My GGG Grandfather Richard F Giddens also served in the Black Hawk War with the Vermilion County (ILL) Volunteers in the Company of Captain John B Thomas. He mustered into service by Col Isaac R Moores on 23 day of May 1832. He was "2 Sergt". His son-in-law Henry Shockey was in the same unit as a Pvt. Shockey came to Texas also with RFG in 1833 and later had land in northeast Lamar Co. (use to be RR Co). There is a Shockey Prairie shown in that area, I assume it was name for him. I have always wondered if RFG served with Becknell and/or Stiles, but have never found any documentation. RFG would have been 35 when he came to RR Co in 1833. Hope all had at Great Thanksgiving Day (week) as I have had. If anyone is going to the Becknell site and would like for me to go with them or meet them there, let me know and if my calendar is clear, I will go with you or we will come up a time/day that will work. Jim Giddens Paris (Reno), Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom watson" <DRtom_watson@msn.com> To: "red river" <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier before he > came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an ensign and his > deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after him. In 1828 his first > political office was that of J.P. of Saline County Missouri. Later that > year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. > During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia from > Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. In Texas he > was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia which protected the > settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in Northeast Texas. In 1836 He took > the militia to The battle of San Jacinto to fight but arrived there > shortly after the battle had ended. He

    11/24/2007 04:52:11
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Question about Halesboro Cemetary
    2. Marilyn Largent
    3. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: txredriv-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txredriv-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of black@1starnet.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:00 PM To: txredriv@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Question about Halesboro Cemetary The addresses I have for Halesboro Cemetery are: Ina Ward Rt. 2, Box 379 Bogata TX 75417 and Jerry Hutson Rt. 2 Box 3493 Bogata, TX 75417 I also find Jerry Hutson in our area phone book at 903-632-5500 All the people on rural mail routes have new addresses that allow emergency services to find them out in the country. I know these addresses that I am sending are not up to date but the rural mailmen seem to still be delivering mail to folks at the old addresses. Hope this helps Sharon Black ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/23/2007 09:33:05
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Question about Halesboro Cemetary
    2. The addresses I have for Halesboro Cemetery are: Ina Ward Rt. 2, Box 379 Bogata TX 75417 and Jerry Hutson Rt. 2 Box 3493 Bogata, TX 75417 I also find Jerry Hutson in our area phone book at 903-632-5500 All the people on rural mail routes have new addresses that allow emergency services to find them out in the country. I know these addresses that I am sending are not up to date but the rural mailmen seem to still be delivering mail to folks at the old addresses. Hope this helps Sharon Black

    11/23/2007 08:59:32
    1. [TXREDRIV] Question about Halesboro Cemetary
    2. Marilyn Largent
    3. My great-great-great-grandfather is buried in Halesboro Cemetary (ER WITT). We are about to request a Defender of the Republic of Texas Medalion and Former Ranger Cross for his grave. I need to know who is the authority over this cemetery. If anyone has any info , please let me know. Thanks, Marilyn Largent "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid." -- John Wayne

    11/23/2007 07:29:13
    1. [TXREDRIV] Carson & Hall, traders????
    2. Gary Pinkerton
    3. I have a document indicating Robert Trammell paid off a significant debt ($1,800) to estate for two men named as "Carson & Hall." Trammell was probably a farmer, but almost certainly a gambler and horse racer. Do the names Carson and Hall ring any bells around 1840 or so in Red River County? Gary Pinkerton

    11/23/2007 05:08:44
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Happy Thanksgiving
    2. Jim Giddens
    3. What Tom said: It is great that so much of my family is in to a 4 or 5 day Thanksgiving Week. Eating big every meal, all going to Clarksville this afternoon to visit more with my wife's parents and her siblings etc. We have not had this big a get together in many years now. Got to run now to the next house to eat again. Not sure we will see much of the Cowboys. HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL AND FOR THE ONE WE ARE THANKFUL TO. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. Tom, I will check with you later on visiting Becknell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom watson" <DRtom_watson@msn.com> To: "red river" <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Happy Thanksgiving > Been a long time ,but I remember when I was growing up in Red River Cty > how all the kids would be outside playing and all the grown-ups would be > inside around the fire place or in the kitchen. The women would all be in > the kitchen visiting and cooking. the men playing 42. After the feast the > men resumed their game and the women would visit or work on puzzles. The > food would be left on the table and covered with a table cloth, after the > dirty dishes were removed. The kids would be outside doing everything we > could think of: making rubber guns, swinging on the tire swing, jumping > out of the barn loft, corn cob fights, playing football, hunting rabbits, > etc.. > Today, we will give thanks, feast and watch the Cowboys (as we cat nap). > I would like to wish each and everyone a Happy Thanksgiving, God Bless > Tom Watson > Heath,TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tom watson > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:36 PM > To: red river > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier before he > came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an ensign and his > deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after him. In 1828 his first > political office was that of J.P. of Saline County Missouri. Later that > year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. > During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia from > Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. In Texas he > was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia which protected the > settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in Northeast Texas. In 1836 He took > the militia to The battle of San Jacinto to fight but arrived there > shortly after the battle had ended. He was elected to the House Of Reps. > of The Republic of Texas but after serving eleven days, 71 year old Collin > McKinney showed up with proof of more votes and claimed Becknell's seat. > The House refused to accept McKinney, stating that! > Becknell was doing a good job, due to his previous experience in > Missouri. Becknell asked that the motion be tabled till the next day. At > that time Becknell withdrew his name. He was paid for his travel and > eleven days of service and returned to Clarksville. In 1845 he supervised > the State Congressional election and the U.S. Congressional election of > 1846, after Texas became a state. According to Mary Becknell, his wife, > Capt. Becknell died 25 April 1856. > Tom Watson > Heath, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Croft > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:12 PM > To: txredriv@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > > I Googled his name and found some information, especially on Texas > Handbook Online. "The Father of the Santa Fe Trail" is quite an > accomplishment all by itself! --MaryK > > -----------------------Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is > given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky > Friedman)> From: samples@1starnet.com> To: txredriv@rootsweb.com> Date: > Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:05:32 -0600> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MaryK Croft" > <marykcroft@msn.com>> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November > 20, 2007 6:28 PM> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > >> > ...A > paper? This means there's a story, right?> > Yes, Mary K, there is a > story. Captain Becknell was the father of the Sante > Fe Trail and was an > officer in the Texas Revolution. He received a land > grant from Texas and > lived the later part of his life in Red River County. > Not much has been > written about him, and some of it is wrong. He was buried > in an unmarked > grave on this land and forgotten for many years. The > cemetery was > neglected and abused for many years. There are only 3 other > marke! > rs left, one is one of Becknell's grandchildren and two are McGuires. > > Then in the 1950s the State of Texas decided to put a marker at his > > gravesite and that is what we are talking about. I have done some > research. > I was interested in this mostly because I was born on Becknall > land, as was > my mother.> > I don't know if you remember a movie about > Davy Crockett in the 1950s and > the Davy Crockett fad that followed. That > is when I first heard about him. > My grandfather showed me the > approximate location of the Becknall house, > where Crockett is said to > have spent the night. I don't know if anybody has > proof of this, but it > makes a good story.> > Cynthia> > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: > 11/22/2007 11:49 AM >

    11/22/2007 04:30:12
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Happy Thanksgiving
    2. tom watson
    3. Been a long time ,but I remember when I was growing up in Red River Cty how all the kids would be outside playing and all the grown-ups would be inside around the fire place or in the kitchen. The women would all be in the kitchen visiting and cooking. the men playing 42. After the feast the men resumed their game and the women would visit or work on puzzles. The food would be left on the table and covered with a table cloth, after the dirty dishes were removed. The kids would be outside doing everything we could think of: making rubber guns, swinging on the tire swing, jumping out of the barn loft, corn cob fights, playing football, hunting rabbits, etc.. Today, we will give thanks, feast and watch the Cowboys (as we cat nap). I would like to wish each and everyone a Happy Thanksgiving, God Bless Tom Watson Heath,TX ----- Original Message ----- From: tom watson Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:36 PM To: red river Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier before he came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an ensign and his deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after him. In 1828 his first political office was that of J.P. of Saline County Missouri. Later that year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia from Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. In Texas he was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia which protected the settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in Northeast Texas. In 1836 He took the militia to The battle of San Jacinto to fight but arrived there shortly after the battle had ended. He was elected to the House Of Reps. of The Republic of Texas but after serving eleven days, 71 year old Collin McKinney showed up with proof of more votes and claimed Becknell's seat. The House refused to accept McKinney, stating that! Becknell was doing a good job, due to his previous experience in Missouri. Becknell asked that the motion be tabled till the next day. At that time Becknell withdrew his name. He was paid for his travel and eleven days of service and returned to Clarksville. In 1845 he supervised the State Congressional election and the U.S. Congressional election of 1846, after Texas became a state. According to Mary Becknell, his wife, Capt. Becknell died 25 April 1856. Tom Watson Heath, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Croft Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:12 PM To: txredriv@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker I Googled his name and found some information, especially on Texas Handbook Online. "The Father of the Santa Fe Trail" is quite an accomplishment all by itself! --MaryK -----------------------Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman)> From: samples@1starnet.com> To: txredriv@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:05:32 -0600> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MaryK Croft" <marykcroft@msn.com>> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:28 PM> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > >> > ...A paper? This means there's a story, right?> > Yes, Mary K, there is a story. Captain Becknell was the father of the Sante > Fe Trail and was an officer in the Texas Revolution. He received a land > grant from Texas and lived the later part of his life in Red River County. > Not much has been written about him, and some of it is wrong. He was buried > in an unmarked grave on this land and forgotten for many years. The > cemetery was neglected and abused for many years. There are only 3 other > marke! rs left, one is one of Becknell's grandchildren and two are McGuires. > Then in the 1950s the State of Texas decided to put a marker at his > gravesite and that is what we are talking about. I have done some research. > I was interested in this mostly because I was born on Becknall land, as was > my mother.> > I don't know if you remember a movie about Davy Crockett in the 1950s and > the Davy Crockett fad that followed. That is when I first heard about him. > My grandfather showed me the approximate location of the Becknall house, > where Crockett is said to have spent the night. I don't know if anybody has > proof of this, but it makes a good story.> > Cynthia> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/22/2007 04:17:05
    1. [TXREDRIV] William Gragg, 1833
    2. Gary Pinkerton
    3. I'm looking for help in placing the settlement of William Gragg around 1833. He was one of Wavell's registered colonists and lived in the Sulphur Fork settlements. If anyone can help, please let me know. Gary Pinkerton

    11/22/2007 01:14:47
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. tom watson
    3. Mary, Capt. Becknell was quite active in the western frontier before he came to Texas in 1833. He fought in the war of 1812 as an ensign and his deeds were rewarded by having a ship named after him. In 1828 his first political office was that of J.P. of Saline County Missouri. Later that year he was elected to the House Of Reps. ,where he served two terms. During the Black Hawk War of 1832 he was the Capt. of a militia from Saline County. In 1833 he brought a group to Clarksville, TX. In Texas he was elected Capt. Of The Red River Blues, a militia which protected the settlers from the Indians and Mexicans in Northeast Texas. In 1836 He took the militia to The battle of San Jacinto to fight but arrived there shortly after the battle had ended. He was elected to the House Of Reps. of The Republic of Texas but after serving eleven days, 71 year old Collin McKinney showed up with proof of more votes and claimed Becknell's seat. The House refused to accept McKinney, stating that Becknell was doing a good job, due to his previous experience in Missouri. Becknell asked that the motion be tabled till the next day. At that time Becknell withdrew his name. He was paid for his travel and eleven days of service and returned to Clarksville. In 1845 he supervised the State Congressional election and the U.S. Congressional election of 1846, after Texas became a state. According to Mary Becknell, his wife, Capt. Becknell died 25 April 1856. Tom Watson Heath, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Croft Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:12 PM To: txredriv@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker I Googled his name and found some information, especially on Texas Handbook Online. "The Father of the Santa Fe Trail" is quite an accomplishment all by itself! --MaryK -----------------------Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman)> From: samples@1starnet.com> To: txredriv@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:05:32 -0600> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MaryK Croft" <marykcroft@msn.com>> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:28 PM> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > >> > ...A paper? This means there's a story, right?> > Yes, Mary K, there is a story. Captain Becknell was the father of the Sante > Fe Trail and was an officer in the Texas Revolution. He received a land > grant from Texas and lived the later part of his life in Red River County. > Not much has been written about him, and some of it is wrong. He was buried > in an unmarked grave on this land and forgotten for many years. The > cemetery was neglected and abused for many years. There are only 3 other > marke! rs left, one is one of Becknell's grandchildren and two are McGuires. > Then in the 1950s the State of Texas decided to put a marker at his > gravesite and that is what we are talking about. I have done some research. > I was interested in this mostly because I was born on Becknall land, as was > my mother.> > I don't know if you remember a movie about Davy Crockett in the 1950s and > the Davy Crockett fad that followed. That is when I first heard about him. > My grandfather showed me the approximate location of the Becknall house, > where Crockett is said to have spent the night. I don't know if anybody has > proof of this, but it makes a good story.> > Cynthia> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/21/2007 08:33:08
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. MaryK Croft
    3. I Googled his name and found some information, especially on Texas Handbook Online. "The Father of the Santa Fe Trail" is quite an accomplishment all by itself! --MaryK -----------------------Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman)> From: samples@1starnet.com> To: txredriv@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:05:32 -0600> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MaryK Croft" <marykcroft@msn.com>> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:28 PM> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > > >> > ...A paper? This means there's a story, right?> > Yes, Mary K, there is a story. Captain Becknell was the father of the Sante > Fe Trail and was an officer in the Texas Revolution. He received a land > grant from Texas and lived the later part of his life in Red River County. > Not much has been written about him, and some of it is wrong. He was buried > in an unmarked grave on this land and forgotten for many years. The > cemetery was neglected and abused for many years. There are only 3 other > markers left, one is one of Becknell's grandchildren and two are McGuires. > Then in the 1950s the State of Texas decided to put a marker at his > gravesite and that is what we are talking about. I have done some research. > I was interested in this mostly because I was born on Becknall land, as was > my mother.> > I don't know if you remember a movie about Davy Crockett in the 1950s and > the Davy Crockett fad that followed. That is when I first heard about him. > My grandfather showed me the approximate location of the Becknall house, > where Crockett is said to have spent the night. I don't know if anybody has > proof of this, but it makes a good story.> > Cynthia> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/20/2007 07:10:41
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. MaryK Croft
    3. ...A paper? This means there's a story, right? Can anyone tell me more about Capt. Becknell? --MaryKCourtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given. (Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman)> From: DRtom_watson@msn.com> To: txredriv@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:24:21 -0600> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > Cynthia, I went by the monument recently and it was still there.I was in the area last weekend but did not go that direction. I may be able to go up there this weekend. If I do I will try to weed eat as much as possible (depending on weather conditions). If this fellow is coming up on a weekend I will try to meet him someplace , and take him to the monument.> The property is owned by some Germans and is overseen by a person in Bogata.> Tom Watson> Heath,Tx> > ----- Original Message -----> From: Cynthia Samples> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:49 AM> To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker> > Hey, Jim or Tom or anybody that can help me. I have been corresponding with a man in Georgetown, TX, who is obsessed with seeing the monument for Captain William Becknell. He is not a descendant but he says he is writing a paper. I gave him explicit directions, he drove down there and said he couldn't find it. I have seen it many times so I didn't know what his problem was. You can normally see it from Hwy 82 if you are looking the right way(and not driving) or from CR 1290. > > Yesterday I drove down there and I couldn't find it either. The place is grown up so badly that it could have weeds that are as high as the marker all around it. I didn't walk out there, because I wasn't prepared to do that and I was by myself.> > He questioned me about "could it have been removed". I think if anything like that had happened some of us would have heard about it. Has anybody seen it in the last few months? Any clues anybody could give me would be appreciated. We have the gps coordinates, thanks to Lawrence Dale, but I don't have a gps receiver. I don't know who owns the land now.> > Cynthia> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/20/2007 05:28:47
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Cynthia Samples
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MaryK Croft" <marykcroft@msn.com> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > > ...A paper? This means there's a story, right? Yes, Mary K, there is a story. Captain Becknell was the father of the Sante Fe Trail and was an officer in the Texas Revolution. He received a land grant from Texas and lived the later part of his life in Red River County. Not much has been written about him, and some of it is wrong. He was buried in an unmarked grave on this land and forgotten for many years. The cemetery was neglected and abused for many years. There are only 3 other markers left, one is one of Becknell's grandchildren and two are McGuires. Then in the 1950s the State of Texas decided to put a marker at his gravesite and that is what we are talking about. I have done some research. I was interested in this mostly because I was born on Becknall land, as was my mother. I don't know if you remember a movie about Davy Crockett in the 1950s and the Davy Crockett fad that followed. That is when I first heard about him. My grandfather showed me the approximate location of the Becknall house, where Crockett is said to have spent the night. I don't know if anybody has proof of this, but it makes a good story. Cynthia

    11/20/2007 01:05:32
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Cynthia Samples
    3. Thanks, Jim, I will look for the ladder next time. The only time I have walked out there I did it from what is now CR 1290. That was before the barn and stuff were there. I have seen it from the Highway like you say, when the sun was shining on it. He said he might be able to come back Friday and I told him I would help him look again. Yes, I think you sent me those pictures once and when I changed computers I lost them. I do have the one of the Becknell Monument but not of the other gravestones. Thanks, Cynthia It's really ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> To: <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker >I drove by the Becknell area on my way to Clarksville and back to Paris > Sunday afternoon. > I was not looking for the actually marker but I did look to see if the > step > latter I placed over the fence was still there at the closest place to the > marker. > It is still there and to my surprise, a trail has been worn around the > latter. > Seems several must have walked the path. > I feel certain the marker is still there but the weeds are up and I was > not > looking for it. It is on the south side of US 82 about 100 yards It > is > difficult to see from the highway because it is facing the west so from > the > closest point on the hwy (US 82) you are looking at the side edge of the > monument. Approaching from the west, some time you can see it if from > about 1/4 miles distant, you look across the creek (low area) about 100 > yards to the small grove of trees, just to the west of the small grove > are > about 4 or 5 small trees, and if it is in the afternoon, you may can > locate it easier because the Sun will lighten up the west side surface of > the monument. It is about 3 ft wide and maybe 5 ft tall. These are > the > only trees in the pasture, the rest of the pasture is weeds. I have > taken several picture of the monument and the few remaining markers I > could > find. If anyone want to see them, I can e-mail them to you or maybe > Cynthia can add them to the web-site if she thinks there is enough > interest. > Jim G

    11/20/2007 12:14:47
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. Cynthia Samples
    3. He said he is going to be in Commerce Friday after Thanksgiving but that would be his last opportunity for a while. I told him if he wanted to try again I would meet him there and help him look. That is, if the weather is decent. Of course, if the weather is bad he probably won't do it. I don't get as adventuresome when I am by myself, so I probably just didn't look good enough. I didn't know then about Jim's ladder, so I think I can do better now. I have seen it many times but never tried to judge distance. Cynthia ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom watson" <DRtom_watson@msn.com> To: "red river" <txredriv@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker > Cynthia, I went by the monument recently and it was still there.I was in > the area last weekend but did not go that direction. I may be able to go > up there this weekend. If I do I will try to weed eat as much as possible > (depending on weather conditions). If this fellow is coming up on a > weekend I will try to meet him someplace , and take him to the monument. > The property is owned by some Germans and is overseen by a person in > Bogata. > Tom Watson > Heath,Tx

    11/20/2007 12:06:13
    1. Re: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker
    2. tom watson
    3. Cynthia, I went by the monument recently and it was still there.I was in the area last weekend but did not go that direction. I may be able to go up there this weekend. If I do I will try to weed eat as much as possible (depending on weather conditions). If this fellow is coming up on a weekend I will try to meet him someplace , and take him to the monument. The property is owned by some Germans and is overseen by a person in Bogata. Tom Watson Heath,Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Samples Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:49 AM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXREDRIV] Becknell Marker Hey, Jim or Tom or anybody that can help me. I have been corresponding with a man in Georgetown, TX, who is obsessed with seeing the monument for Captain William Becknell. He is not a descendant but he says he is writing a paper. I gave him explicit directions, he drove down there and said he couldn't find it. I have seen it many times so I didn't know what his problem was. You can normally see it from Hwy 82 if you are looking the right way(and not driving) or from CR 1290. Yesterday I drove down there and I couldn't find it either. The place is grown up so badly that it could have weeds that are as high as the marker all around it. I didn't walk out there, because I wasn't prepared to do that and I was by myself. He questioned me about "could it have been removed". I think if anything like that had happened some of us would have heard about it. Has anybody seen it in the last few months? Any clues anybody could give me would be appreciated. We have the gps coordinates, thanks to Lawrence Dale, but I don't have a gps receiver. I don't know who owns the land now. Cynthia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXREDRIV-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/20/2007 11:24:21
    1. [TXREDRIV] Joe Milton and Arminta(y) Countryman Daniels
    2. Hi list, I need of some help if at all possible. This is what I have: (A.) Joe Milton Daniels b. January 3, 1884 in Arkansas d. October 22, 1957 in Red River County Hospital, Clarksville, Red River County, Texas. married May 27, 1904 in Lamar County, Texas to: Arminty/Arminta/Armity Ann Countryman b. November 01, 1885 d. February 11, 1933 I need a copy of her obituary or where she died? where was she born? Verification that her parents were William (Henry) Pen Countryman and Josephene McDougle (B) John Henry Daniels b. June 19, 1916 in Cunningham, Texas to Arminty and Joe Daniels listed above d. December 26, 1956 Red River County, Texas married on ????? in ???????? to: Gladys Elizabeth Lively (Moore) b. April 27, 1921 Centralis, Illinois d. November 07, 2006 Baird, Callahan County, Texas I need to know when they actually got married and where. Gladys was married to a Hal. C. Moore who died in 1947 in Hot Springs, Ark. AND John Henry and Glady's first child, Joe Henry Daniels was born in 1949........so at least we have a year of 1947-1949. Joe Henry was born in Deport, Texas. (C) I also need birth dates, death dates and spouses for the following brothers/sisters to John Henry Daniels 1. Mary Lee Daniels ( she married Carl Tippit, I think) 2. Willie B Daniels (she married a Beggs) 3. Ola Mae Daniels (she married an Atchley) (D)William Henry Daniels b. April 05, 1859 in _________ d. January 13, 1936 in Red River County, Texas married ____________ in __________to Sarah Frances Stewart b.___________ in __________ d.__________in ___________ This is Joe Milton Daniels mother and father. You can see the empty spaces and can tell what info I need for them. (E) Siblings of Joe Milton Daniels , that I do not have infor for are/were: sisters: Ludie Daniels (married to a J. W. Emerson or Epperson) Jewel Daniels (married to a Tom Lemons) Fannie Daniels (married to a F.M Peppers) May Daniels( married to a Ben Ward) Dewey Daniels (married to a ????? Kilgore) brother: Pete Daniels I do not have any marriage dates, or birth dates or death dates, or anything on these people. If any of you can just help with just ONE part, it would be wonderful. If I have information that there is an obit or a marriage licenses, etc, I will travel to Clarksville to get it from the courthouse. Thanks. Debra Usry Paris, Texas **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

    11/20/2007 09:08:02
    1. [TXREDRIV] Becknell family
    2. Keith Reed
    3. Cynthia, My name is Keith Reed and I live in Arlington. Possibly I can give some information on the Becknell family. Several months ago I did a rather extensive project involving this family. I did it for a man in Waxahachie who descended through this family line. Unfortunately, I did not keep any of the information from that project, but I am quite sure that he will be more than willing to share the information which includes pictures, marriage licenses, land grant documents, wills, Republic of Texas Military Service documents and other items of interest. This gentleman in Waxahachie is named Bill Baty. His e-mail address is Babaty1@SBCGlobal.net. I am sure that he will be happy to share. Keith Reed Arlington, Tx.

    11/20/2007 08:53:07