We have you in our prayers Sam, jan & tom brodie ----- Original Message ----- From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > Thanks so much for the kind words. Without taking the space to explain, they > have had a problem or two besides the stones themselves, and it has really > been a trip, but it seems I do everything the hard way. I appreciate you and > all the others. > Sam ( the Kidney Stone man ) > Paris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Watson DDS" <tom_watson_dds@hotmail.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:57 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > Sam, > > I'm sad to hear about yor latest bout with the "Stones".I've had two > bouts > > but nothing like yours. > > If there is anything I can do to help while you are in Dallas please let > > me know. > > Tom > > Heath,TX > > > > P.S.WE havw all missed you!! > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > >Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:10:53 -0600 > > > > > > > > >Sam, > > > What a poor excuse to not talking on the phone. Next time carry > your > > >cell phone to surgery with you, or maybe a laptop. > > > > > >Serious, Glad you are home. I know you must still be in pain. Be > sure > > >to let us now before you go back to the hospital (Dallas). You are in > our > > >thoughts and prayers. > > >Jim G > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:13 PM > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > > > > > > > Jim, thank you for your call. My wife was the only one in the room at > > >the > > > > time. I was in surgery at the time. Got out at 5 this afternoon and > hope > > >to > > > > be going strong again very soon. > > > > Sam > > > > Paris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:05 PM > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St > Joseph > > >in > > > > Paris) > > > > > They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney > > > > stones trouble again. > > > > > Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to > > >arrive > > > > today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the > stones. > > > > She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on > the > > > > phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is > > >knocked > > > > out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > >records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > >records, > > >go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I do not remember who requested a picture of the Indian Paint Brush. I have found one taken by a friend. Notify me mnglenn@the-i.net and I will forward it to you. These are wild flowers in Texas and are seen in the spring along the road sides and medians, as well as the meadows. Mary/Aransas Pass/TX

Thanks so much for the kind words. Without taking the space to explain, they have had a problem or two besides the stones themselves, and it has really been a trip, but it seems I do everything the hard way. I appreciate you and all the others. Sam ( the Kidney Stone man ) Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Watson DDS" <tom_watson_dds@hotmail.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > Sam, > I'm sad to hear about yor latest bout with the "Stones".I've had two bouts > but nothing like yours. > If there is anything I can do to help while you are in Dallas please let > me know. > Tom > Heath,TX > > P.S.WE havw all missed you!! > > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > >Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:10:53 -0600 > > > > > >Sam, > > What a poor excuse to not talking on the phone. Next time carry your > >cell phone to surgery with you, or maybe a laptop. > > > >Serious, Glad you are home. I know you must still be in pain. Be sure > >to let us now before you go back to the hospital (Dallas). You are in our > >thoughts and prayers. > >Jim G > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:13 PM > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > > > > Jim, thank you for your call. My wife was the only one in the room at > >the > > > time. I was in surgery at the time. Got out at 5 this afternoon and hope > >to > > > be going strong again very soon. > > > Sam > > > Paris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:05 PM > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > > > > > > > I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St Joseph > >in > > > Paris) > > > > They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney > > > stones trouble again. > > > > Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to > >arrive > > > today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the stones. > > > She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on the > > > phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is > >knocked > > > out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > >go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Sam, I'm sad to hear about yor latest bout with the "Stones".I've had two bouts but nothing like yours. If there is anything I can do to help while you are in Dallas please let me know. Tom Heath,TX P.S.WE havw all missed you!! >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital >Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:10:53 -0600 > > >Sam, > What a poor excuse to not talking on the phone. Next time carry your >cell phone to surgery with you, or maybe a laptop. > >Serious, Glad you are home. I know you must still be in pain. Be sure >to let us now before you go back to the hospital (Dallas). You are in our >thoughts and prayers. >Jim G > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:13 PM >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > Jim, thank you for your call. My wife was the only one in the room at >the > > time. I was in surgery at the time. Got out at 5 this afternoon and hope >to > > be going strong again very soon. > > Sam > > Paris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:05 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > > > > I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St Joseph >in > > Paris) > > > They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney > > stones trouble again. > > > Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to >arrive > > today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the stones. > > She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on the > > phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is >knocked > > out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Again Jim, I thank you for your concern. They thought they had them all before, but another showed up. They put a stint in today in Paris to give me, but I am going to Dallas to have it removed. The reason is the size of the thing, and they have been doing the work so far. I'll keep every informed, but this one slipped up on me at night, and I didn't have time to even turn my comp. off. Thanks again, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > Sam, > What a poor excuse to not talking on the phone. Next time carry your > cell phone to surgery with you, or maybe a laptop. > > Serious, Glad you are home. I know you must still be in pain. Be sure > to let us now before you go back to the hospital (Dallas). You are in our > thoughts and prayers. > Jim G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > Jim, thank you for your call. My wife was the only one in the room at the > > time. I was in surgery at the time. Got out at 5 this afternoon and hope > to > > be going strong again very soon. > > Sam > > Paris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:05 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > > > > I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St Joseph > in > > Paris) > > > They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney > > stones trouble again. > > > Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to > arrive > > today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the stones. > > She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on the > > phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is > knocked > > out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sam, What a poor excuse to not talking on the phone. Next time carry your cell phone to surgery with you, or maybe a laptop. Serious, Glad you are home. I know you must still be in pain. Be sure to let us now before you go back to the hospital (Dallas). You are in our thoughts and prayers. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > Jim, thank you for your call. My wife was the only one in the room at the > time. I was in surgery at the time. Got out at 5 this afternoon and hope to > be going strong again very soon. > Sam > Paris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:05 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > > > > I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St Joseph in > Paris) > > They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney > stones trouble again. > > Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to arrive > today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the stones. > She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on the > phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is knocked > out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jim, thank you for your call. My wife was the only one in the room at the time. I was in surgery at the time. Got out at 5 this afternoon and hope to be going strong again very soon. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam in hsopital > I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St Joseph in Paris) > They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney stones trouble again. > Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to arrive today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the stones. She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on the phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is knocked out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Just got released from the Hospital about 1 hour ago. Be back on this comp. pretty soon. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: <gdramirez1@msn.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he & his wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few days. Is it just me? > Gloria Ramirez > Apple Valley, CA > gdramirez1@msn.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The book Red River Dust has several accounts of steamboats in the Red River County of the Red River. It has a list of how many bales of cotton each boat had on board. He also said the Great Raft (Red River log jam has existed for hundreds of years but was only in the Shreveport area for about 50 miles. That was not my understanding, but I am sure he is much more knowledgeable in this than I am. Peggy, mostly be sure to not speed through Reno if you go east of Paris. Thanks John for the update, Maybe Peggy and husband can see him in Dallas. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > Jim, Thank you. I already sent an email to Mr. Tolman. Appreciate you > looking up the address. I am very interested in the steamboats of that > era, and what was happening during that time frame. I was aware the > steamboats were operating, but had no idea there were that many. I had also > read of the flood. > > You all were fortunate to have him as your speaker. Mary/Aransas Pass/TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > I found Keith Tolman of Fort Towson, Ok on the Yahoo search. > > phone 580-873-9243 > > e-mail: k_tolman@yahoo.com > > > > Keith said steamboats finally were able to go as far as Preston Bend which > > is where Lake Texoma is now. > > They do not yet know the name of the steamboat in the river. It is not > the > > Caddo as thought earlier. > > The Upper Red River as anywhere from Shreveport, La northward. There were > > as many as 250 steamboats to travel the upper Red. The last one was > 1926 > > if I read my notes correctly. "The" steamboat in the river was/is 140 > ft > > long and 27 feet wide but the with was expanded to 43 ft wide with support > > beams (I forgot what he called that process to make the boat wider that it > > really was). All the artifact were taken off the ship when it first > > sank. The water it is in now is about 12 deep. The bow is in the > sand > > under the water. The stern is above water. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > > > > Jim, thanks for the report on the speech by Keith Tolman. I only wished > I > > > could be there to hear what he had to say. I am very interested in > > knowing > > > about the boat. Is there anyway I could contact Mr. Tolman? Mary/ > > Aransas > > > Pass/TX > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:01 AM > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > > > > > > > Gloria and all, > > > > You are right. I just now called Sam's house and got a answering > > > machine. > > > > I left a message for him to call me or reply to the board. I hope he > > is > > > > just out for breakfast. > > > > John, I did stop at the bakery shop in Bogata Tuesday morning you > > > told > > > > me about. I was too early for you, but I thought maybe I would be > > > lucky > > > > that day. The coffee and donut was very good. > > > > The genealogy meeting i Clarksville Monday night was very good. > A > > Mr > > > > Keith Tolman from Ft Towson talked to us about the steamboat that was > > > > rediscovered in the Red River a couple of years ago. He is one of > the > > > > divers and is a citizen of Ft Towson. He gave a good talk on the > > > history > > > > of steamboats in general plus details of their research on the > specific > > > boat > > > > in the Red River.. The boat probably sank in 1838 and then the > flood > > of > > > > 1843 caused the river to move and the boat was lost and just forgot > > about. > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <gdramirez1@msn.com> > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:39 AM > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he > & > > > his > > > > wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few > > > days. > > > > Is it just me? > > > > > Gloria Ramirez > > > > > Apple Valley, CA > > > > > gdramirez1@msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Have just visited Sam at St. Joseph's and found him in good spirits. His new round of stones will not be dealt with in Paris. He is seeking an appointment for surgery at Presbyterian in Dallas.

Jim, Thank you. I already sent an email to Mr. Tolman. Appreciate you looking up the address. I am very interested in the steamboats of that era, and what was happening during that time frame. I was aware the steamboats were operating, but had no idea there were that many. I had also read of the flood. You all were fortunate to have him as your speaker. Mary/Aransas Pass/TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > I found Keith Tolman of Fort Towson, Ok on the Yahoo search. > phone 580-873-9243 > e-mail: k_tolman@yahoo.com > > Keith said steamboats finally were able to go as far as Preston Bend which > is where Lake Texoma is now. > They do not yet know the name of the steamboat in the river. It is not the > Caddo as thought earlier. > The Upper Red River as anywhere from Shreveport, La northward. There were > as many as 250 steamboats to travel the upper Red. The last one was 1926 > if I read my notes correctly. "The" steamboat in the river was/is 140 ft > long and 27 feet wide but the with was expanded to 43 ft wide with support > beams (I forgot what he called that process to make the boat wider that it > really was). All the artifact were taken off the ship when it first > sank. The water it is in now is about 12 deep. The bow is in the sand > under the water. The stern is above water. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > Jim, thanks for the report on the speech by Keith Tolman. I only wished I > > could be there to hear what he had to say. I am very interested in > knowing > > about the boat. Is there anyway I could contact Mr. Tolman? Mary/ > Aransas > > Pass/TX > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > > > > Gloria and all, > > > You are right. I just now called Sam's house and got a answering > > machine. > > > I left a message for him to call me or reply to the board. I hope he > is > > > just out for breakfast. > > > John, I did stop at the bakery shop in Bogata Tuesday morning you > > told > > > me about. I was too early for you, but I thought maybe I would be > > lucky > > > that day. The coffee and donut was very good. > > > The genealogy meeting i Clarksville Monday night was very good. A > Mr > > > Keith Tolman from Ft Towson talked to us about the steamboat that was > > > rediscovered in the Red River a couple of years ago. He is one of the > > > divers and is a citizen of Ft Towson. He gave a good talk on the > > history > > > of steamboats in general plus details of their research on the specific > > boat > > > in the Red River.. The boat probably sank in 1838 and then the flood > of > > > 1843 caused the river to move and the boat was lost and just forgot > about. > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <gdramirez1@msn.com> > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:39 AM > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > > > > > > > Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he & > > his > > > wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few > > days. > > > Is it just me? > > > > Gloria Ramirez > > > > Apple Valley, CA > > > > gdramirez1@msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.-

I found Keith Tolman of Fort Towson, Ok on the Yahoo search. phone 580-873-9243 e-mail: k_tolman@yahoo.com Keith said steamboats finally were able to go as far as Preston Bend which is where Lake Texoma is now. They do not yet know the name of the steamboat in the river. It is not the Caddo as thought earlier. The Upper Red River as anywhere from Shreveport, La northward. There were as many as 250 steamboats to travel the upper Red. The last one was 1926 if I read my notes correctly. "The" steamboat in the river was/is 140 ft long and 27 feet wide but the with was expanded to 43 ft wide with support beams (I forgot what he called that process to make the boat wider that it really was). All the artifact were taken off the ship when it first sank. The water it is in now is about 12 deep. The bow is in the sand under the water. The stern is above water. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > Jim, thanks for the report on the speech by Keith Tolman. I only wished I > could be there to hear what he had to say. I am very interested in knowing > about the boat. Is there anyway I could contact Mr. Tolman? Mary/ Aransas > Pass/TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > Gloria and all, > > You are right. I just now called Sam's house and got a answering > machine. > > I left a message for him to call me or reply to the board. I hope he is > > just out for breakfast. > > John, I did stop at the bakery shop in Bogata Tuesday morning you > told > > me about. I was too early for you, but I thought maybe I would be > lucky > > that day. The coffee and donut was very good. > > The genealogy meeting i Clarksville Monday night was very good. A Mr > > Keith Tolman from Ft Towson talked to us about the steamboat that was > > rediscovered in the Red River a couple of years ago. He is one of the > > divers and is a citizen of Ft Towson. He gave a good talk on the > history > > of steamboats in general plus details of their research on the specific > boat > > in the Red River.. The boat probably sank in 1838 and then the flood of > > 1843 caused the river to move and the boat was lost and just forgot about. > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <gdramirez1@msn.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:39 AM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > > > > Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he & > his > > wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few > days. > > Is it just me? > > > Gloria Ramirez > > > Apple Valley, CA > > > gdramirez1@msn.com > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I just called the hospital and they said he was in room 419 (St Joseph in Paris) They rang his room and I talked to his wife. He is having kidney stones trouble again. Has been in hospital since Wednesday. Now waiting for doctor to arrive today and do surgery or some kind of procedure to rid him of the stones. She said Sam was not doing very good and did not offer to put him on the phone. I assume this means he was in too much pain or maybe he is knocked out. Maybe I will get a chance to visit him in the hospital. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Jim, thanks for the report on the speech by Keith Tolman. I only wished I could be there to hear what he had to say. I am very interested in knowing about the boat. Is there anyway I could contact Mr. Tolman? Mary/ Aransas Pass/TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > Gloria and all, > You are right. I just now called Sam's house and got a answering machine. > I left a message for him to call me or reply to the board. I hope he is > just out for breakfast. > John, I did stop at the bakery shop in Bogata Tuesday morning you told > me about. I was too early for you, but I thought maybe I would be lucky > that day. The coffee and donut was very good. > The genealogy meeting i Clarksville Monday night was very good. A Mr > Keith Tolman from Ft Towson talked to us about the steamboat that was > rediscovered in the Red River a couple of years ago. He is one of the > divers and is a citizen of Ft Towson. He gave a good talk on the history > of steamboats in general plus details of their research on the specific boat > in the Red River.. The boat probably sank in 1838 and then the flood of > 1843 caused the river to move and the boat was lost and just forgot about. > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gdramirez1@msn.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:39 AM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > > > > Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he & his > wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few days. > Is it just me? > > Gloria Ramirez > > Apple Valley, CA > > gdramirez1@msn.com > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.-

Gloria and all, You are right. I just now called Sam's house and got a answering machine. I left a message for him to call me or reply to the board. I hope he is just out for breakfast. John, I did stop at the bakery shop in Bogata Tuesday morning you told me about. I was too early for you, but I thought maybe I would be lucky that day. The coffee and donut was very good. The genealogy meeting i Clarksville Monday night was very good. A Mr Keith Tolman from Ft Towson talked to us about the steamboat that was rediscovered in the Red River a couple of years ago. He is one of the divers and is a citizen of Ft Towson. He gave a good talk on the history of steamboats in general plus details of their research on the specific boat in the Red River.. The boat probably sank in 1838 and then the flood of 1843 caused the river to move and the boat was lost and just forgot about. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <gdramirez1@msn.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Sam Embrey > Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he & his wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few days. Is it just me? > Gloria Ramirez > Apple Valley, CA > gdramirez1@msn.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Haven't heard from Sam Embrey in days. Does anyone know whether he & his wife are okay. Actually, I haven't heard from Red River area in a few days. Is it just me? Gloria Ramirez Apple Valley, CA gdramirez1@msn.com

Still working on my husbands HASTINGS of Red River Co TX. My husbands maternal grandfather was: Paul Twyman HASTINGS b. 22 Dec 1907 Bagwell TX. He was son of Benjamin Franklin HASTINGS and Sarah Alice ROBERTSON. Benjamin Franklin HASTINGS is son of Joseph HASTINGS b.ca.1851 Maury Co., TN and Joseph's father was said to have been killed or died enroute from TN to TX on wagon train. I am looking for record of him so i can know his name-maybe a birth record of his Joseph or Joseph's bro William b.ca.1845 Maury Co., TN (if any) would show parents names. Paul Twyman m. Mable Juanita BURRIS. They m.1926 in Antlers, Pushmataha Co., OK. They lived and had 3 dtrs there. Sybil, Billie Fay, and Edith. Edith was my husband's mom. Paul and Mable however were divorced in 1945 in AZ. Happy Trails, J in rural MT *_~ Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/roots.html crystalwoman@montana.com

Mike, Thank you for the information on your Baxter I don't thank they tie in but who knows. I thank Thomas is the son of John and Mary Elizabeth Carver Baxter and the Grandson of James and Rhoda Giles Baxter from Cocke Co. and Sevier Co. Tn down in the Smoky Mt. County in fact part of Jame Baxter land is now in the park. Keep me in mind on your Baxter. Thanks Jodie in AR

I believe there is still a surviving Baxter living in Johntown. If I am not mistaken, Mrs. Gene Hawkins' maiden name was Baxter. Unfortunately her health is not great. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jodierob1@cs.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Baxter > Mike, > Thank you for the information on your Baxter I don't thank they tie in but > who knows. I thank Thomas is the son of John and Mary Elizabeth Carver Baxter > and the Grandson of James and Rhoda Giles Baxter from Cocke Co. and Sevier > Co. Tn down in the Smoky Mt. County in fact part of Jame Baxter land is now > in the park. Keep me in mind on your Baxter. > > Thanks > > Jodie in AR > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Joe; I sure can relate to your Salt Lake City weather. I lived in Tooella in 1964 and worked for a short period of time at the Army Depot there before I transferred to the depot in Granite City, ILL. We had a 18" snow before Armed Forces day. At least it was dry powder and was easy shoveling the driveway out. Yeah, I know, they closed the 'depot' back in the 70s when I was in Germany and tried to transfer my state side reemployment back to Utah. I sure am glad that I won that fight. Jerry Sanford -----Original Message----- From: joepete@juno.com <joepete@juno.com> To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Winters : :Sun 9 Feb 2003 Joe Peterson :I don't remember the winters being so bad in the 40's but In the :late 20's and 30,s the pool would freeze and even Red River :would freeze. We would leave the school ground and skate :on the Pool in grandfathers pasture during play period. The :Kiomatia Store had a room they stored Ice in for the summer. :The old timers would tell tales of the past wintes and I would :listen with rapt attention. We did not have radio or television :in thoes days in the country. I think the weather has warmed :up considerably as the years have gone by. I found out what :cold wether really was when the army sent me to Salt Lake :city in 1942.. :joepeterson St Louis MO :On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 23:25:23 -0600 "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> :writes: :> Hey, I guess I remember that ice storm. I was born in 1941. It :> was :> before I started to school, but I remember my dad taking us kids to :> a pool :> that was frozen over and we skated on the pool. I must have been :> about 5 :> years old. :> I was big enough to handle myself, but I did fall on the ice and :> hit the :> back of my head. Soon after that my dad said he saw a crack in the :> ice :> (not from my fall) and made us get off the ice. We live about 1 to :> 2 miles :> past the railroad on the English Road at what we called the Black :> Place. :> The Witmer's live about 1/2 mile on down the road. :> I do not remember hearing of it being referred to as a ice storm, :> but the :> year would be about right. :> :> Jim Giddens :> Paris, Tx :> ----- Original Message ----- :> From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> :> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> :> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:05 PM :> Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Winters :> :> :> > I remember quite well However, what I remember was that we had :> about 1 :> inch :> > of ice on the ground before the snow started. Then after several :> inches of :> > snow, the sleet sat in again and left another inch crust of ice on :> top of :> it :> > all. We lived out in the country between Detroit and Clarksville, :> and :> > electricity was a part of our future then, so we made out pretty :> good on :> > wood fires and coal oil lamps, but the livestock really suffered. :> We would :> > cut a hole in the ice, take a hoe and shove this under the other :> ice out :> in :> > the pool, you would not believe how thick that ice had gotten :> where we :> were :> > pushing it under the other ice by the time we quit doing that. :> Even the :> > buses and trucks did not travel the roads for several days. The " :> Good old :> > days " ? The cold spells lasted much longer then, and there would :> be gangs :> > of kids on the farm ponds having a ball. Not the good old days for :> me. :> > Sam :> > Paris :> > ----- Original Message ----- :> > From: "Jerry Sanford" <origfatdac@epix.net> :> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> :> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:39 PM :> > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Winters :> > :> > :> > > Did Lamar Co get the disastrous ice storm in 1946 or maybe 1947? :> We :> really :> > > got it over in Grayson Co. It started in the afternoon while we :> were in :> > > school and I recall all of us kids were marveling at all of the :> Pear :> Trees :> > > at the St. Vincent's Hospital caddie-corner from the school :> having about :> > 2" :> > > of ice on even the real small branches. We soon discovered that :> just :> about :> > > everything around also had it.... except for the sidewalks and :> the :> > streets. :> > > The grass sure was 'crunchy.' I don't recall anyone being :> particularly :> > > apprehensive about the conditions though...not until the next :> morning :> > > anyway. :> > > I was asleep in the front westside room and my sister, that was :> 7 years :> > > older,in the eastside front and she came in early all in a panic :> and :> woke :> > > me. We had two very large cottonwoods at that corner of the :> house and :> > their :> > > also very large limbs were breaking off and crashing on the roof :> above :> me. :> > > She hustled me off to the center of the house were there were no :> trees :> > > falling. I sure was cold though as the gas space heaters barely :> had a :> > > perceptive flame in them nor did the gas stove and oven in the :> kitchen :> > when :> > > my mom lit them and they stayed that way pretty much through :> the :> > day...maybe :> > > getting an inch of flame at the end of the day. There was no :> telephone :> or :> > > electricity and no radio - which I doubt :> > > if it was on the air locally. Looking outside as it grew :> lighter, we :> soon :> > > discovered that I house and all others we could see and the :> streets were :> > > full of large trees and tree limbs. We were out of school, had :> no :> > > electricity and the streets were clogged for weeks. My mom sent :> my dad :> to :> > > town to buy some kerosene lamps and he could only find one by :> the time :> he :> > > arrived there. He managed to come home with the lamp, one or :> two :> lanterns :> > > and a few candles. The electricity was out downtown for only a :> couple of :> > > weeks but up to several weeks out in the neighborhoods. We had :> two :> fairly :> > > large rock pits full of water on the edge of town and they had :> to pick :> the :> > > only one that was swimable to dump all of the tree debris in. :> Sure :> messed :> > up :> > > our swimming for a couple of years. :> > > I think it was at least 6 weeks before we went back to school :> and was I :> > > ready. :> > > The North-East Texas area got hit by another on about New Years :> Day 1980 :> > but :> > > it was not near as bad as the first one. I think that one was :> worse east :> > of :> > > us. I headed back home to PA about the 4th or 5th of the month :> and went :> up :> > > 82 to Texarkana, then I 30 to Little Rock and then I 40 east and :> it :> > appeared :> > > to me that across Fannin and further east for awhile that it did :> appear :> to :> > > have been. Hope I never see another on of those. :> > > :> > > Jerry Sanford @ EttersPA :> > > :> > > -----Original Message----- :> > > From: Carrie Pierce <cpiercetx@msn.com> :> > > To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> :> > > Date: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:50 AM :> > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Winters :> > > :> > > :> > > |Well list...I've had independent corroboration of the severity :> of past :> > > |winters in northeast Texas. I was standing in line at the :> Dollar :> General :> > > |store in Cooper,(a veritable social club!) and there were two :> very :> mature :> > > |ladies and one very mature man chatting about how cold it was, :> and who :> > had :> > > |died recently. Then one lady said she didn't know why they :> were :> griping, :> > > it :> > > |used to get a lot colder when she was a little girl growing up :> in Lamar :> > > |County. She remembered having to go down to the pond and chop :> up the :> ice :> > > so :> > > |the livestock could drink, and ice skating on the ponds! She :> said it :> > would :> > > |get cold and stay cold for at least 4 months. The other lady :> said she :> > > |remembered her and her sisters getting on a sled and being :> dragged :> behind :> > a :> > > |truck down highway 19. Boy did her eyes light up at that :> memory! And :> > then :> > > |one of them mentioned that it snowed in July in Paris one year. :> I :> > figured :> > > I :> > > |needed to roll up my pants legs on that one! :> > > |All in all, I think we have it pretty good now, a week or two :> of cold, :> > then :> > > |some wonderful spring like days. :> > > | :> > > |So ya'll stay warm...I wish you enough :> > > | :> > > |Carrie Brock Pierce :> > > |Pecan Gap, TX :> > > | :> > > |Researching: Brock, Morgan, Walker, Dorsett, King, Hulsey, :> Vickery, :> Wood, :> > > |Lake, Taylor, Gurrell, Overline, Scribner, Pierce, Chessher, :> Hicks, :> > Nabors, :> > > |George, Fincher :> > > | :> > > | :> > > | :> > > | :> > > | :> > > | :> > > |>From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> :> > > |>Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com :> > > |>To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com :> > > |>Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Pat Mayse Camping :> > > |>Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 23:55:24 -0600 :> > > |> :> > > |>Carolyn, How was your trip to the Paris area or have you been :> here :> yet? :> > > |>Jim Giddens :> > > |>Paris, Tx :> > > |>----- Original Message ----- > :> > > |> > :> > > |> > > Jim I am wondering if you know of an RV park in or close :> to :> Paris. :> > > We :> > > |> > have :> > > |> > > stayed at Shirley's once and only once. The last time we :> came to :> > > |>Paris :> > > |>we :> > > |> > > had to stay in Mount Pleasant, quite a drive back and :> forth. :> > > |> > > The park on Bonham st. I think is a trailer park with a :> few :> slots :> > > |>open :> > > |> > for :> > > |> > > RV and it looks scary. :> > > |> > > Got any idea's for us? 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