Would love to be on the map list thanks, M Jennings

Ok, I think I have sent the map to all that requested. If I missed anyone, let me know, of if any more of you want the map, let me know. The map shows many old communities, cemeteries, creeks and roads (main and small). The US, State & FM roads show their hwy numbers, the County Road do not list their numbers, but I have another map for that. I think soon, I will map off each quadrant of the map and can send what ever corner of the county anyone wants. The map is to big to get it all in one picture. Remember, to enlarge the map, click the attachment and open it. From there for me I click "view" and then zoom and then how much zoom. I hope all of you enjoy the map as much as I have had pleasure in figuring out how to do this. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

I knew Nort Gibson, as well as his two sons that were in business with him. As a matter of fact, my brother bought that business from the Gibson family. Sam from Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gibson" <mikegibsonathome@msn.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Not Genealogy, But TEXAS > I just received this from Sharon Healy. I met her on-line through the > GenForum. She's looking for a different line of Gibsons in Red River > County, I found out it was her great-uncle Norton Gibson who had Gibson's > meat store in Bogata. This was send to her by someone else. > > When you're from Texas, people that you meet ask you questions like, Do you > have any cows? Do you have horses? Bet you got a bunch of guns, eh? They all > want to know if you've been to Southfork. They watched Dallas. Have you > ever looked at a map of the world? Look at Texas with me just for > a second. That picture, with the Panhandle and the Gulf Coast, and the Red > River and the Rio Grande is as much a part of you as anything ever will be. > As soon as anyone anywhere in the world looks at it they know what it is. > It's Texas. Pick any kid off the street in Japan and draw him a picture of > Texas in the dirt and he'll know what it is. What happens if I show you a > picture of any other state? You'll get it maybe after a second, but who else > would? And even if you do, does it ever stir any feelings in you? > > In every man, woman and child on this little rock the Good Lord put us on, > there is a person who wishes just once he could be a real live Texan and get > up on a horse or ride in a pickup. There is some bit of Texas in everyone. > Did you ever hear anyone in a bar go, Wow...so you're from Iowa? Cool, tell > me about it? Do you know why? Because there's no place like Texas. Texas is > the Alamo. Texas is 183 men standing in a church, facing thousands of > Mexican nationals, fighting for freedom, who had the chance to walk out and > save themselves, but stayed instead to fight and die for the cause of > freedom. We send our kids to schools named William B. Travis and James Bowie > and Crockett and do you know why? Because those men saw a line in the sand > and they decided to cross it and be heroes. > > John Wayne paid to do the movie himself. That is the Spirit of Texas. Texas > is Sam Houston capturing Santa Ana at San Jacinto. Texas is Juneteenth and > Texas Independence Day. Texas is huge forests of Piney Woods like the Davy > Crockett National Forest. Texas is breathtaking mountains in Big Bend. Texas > is shiny skyscrapers in Houston and Dallas. Texas is world record bass from > places like Lake Fork. Texas is Mexican food like nowhere in the world, even > Mexico. Texas is the Fort Worth Stockyards, Bass Hall, and the Astrodome. > Texas is larger-than-life legends like Willie Nelson, Buddy Holly, Waylon > Jennings, Janis Joplin, ZZ Top, Eric Dickerson, Earl Campbell, Nolan > Ryan,Denton Cooley and Michael DeBakey, Sam Rayburn, George Bush, Lyndon B. > Johnson, and George W. Bush. > > Texas is great companies like Dell Computer, Texas Instruments and Compaq. > Texas is huge herds of cattle and miles of crops. Texas is skies blackened > with doves, and fields full of deer. Texas is a place where cities shut down > for the Cowboys on Monday Night Football, and NIOSA River Parade in San > Antonio. Texas is ocean beaches, deserts, lakes and rivers, mountains and > prairies, and modern cities. If it isn't in Texas, you don't need it. No > one does anything bigger or better than it's done in Texas. By federal law, > Texas is the only state in the US that can fly its flag at the same height > as the US flag. Think about that for a second. You fly the Stars and Stripes > at 20 feet in Maryland, or California, or Maine, and your state flag, > whatever it is, goes at 17. You fly the Stars and Stripes in front of Pine > Tree High in Longview at 20 feet, the Lone Star flies at the same height - > 20 feet. Do you know why? Because we place being a Texan as high as being an > American down here. Our capitol is the only one in the country > that is taller than the capitol building in Washington, DC and we can divide > our state into five states if we want to! We included these things in as > part of the deal when we came on. That's the best part right there. > > If you are a REAL TEXAN, ...pass this on. If you're not, sorry. > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I just received this from Sharon Healy. I met her on-line through the GenForum. She's looking for a different line of Gibsons in Red River County, I found out it was her great-uncle Norton Gibson who had Gibson's meat store in Bogata. This was send to her by someone else. When you're from Texas, people that you meet ask you questions like, Do you have any cows? Do you have horses? Bet you got a bunch of guns, eh? They all want to know if you've been to Southfork. They watched Dallas. Have you ever looked at a map of the world? Look at Texas with me just for a second. That picture, with the Panhandle and the Gulf Coast, and the Red River and the Rio Grande is as much a part of you as anything ever will be. As soon as anyone anywhere in the world looks at it they know what it is. It's Texas. Pick any kid off the street in Japan and draw him a picture of Texas in the dirt and he'll know what it is. What happens if I show you a picture of any other state? You'll get it maybe after a second, but who else would? And even if you do, does it ever stir any feelings in you? In every man, woman and child on this little rock the Good Lord put us on, there is a person who wishes just once he could be a real live Texan and get up on a horse or ride in a pickup. There is some bit of Texas in everyone. Did you ever hear anyone in a bar go, Wow...so you're from Iowa? Cool, tell me about it? Do you know why? Because there's no place like Texas. Texas is the Alamo. Texas is 183 men standing in a church, facing thousands of Mexican nationals, fighting for freedom, who had the chance to walk out and save themselves, but stayed instead to fight and die for the cause of freedom. We send our kids to schools named William B. Travis and James Bowie and Crockett and do you know why? Because those men saw a line in the sand and they decided to cross it and be heroes. John Wayne paid to do the movie himself. That is the Spirit of Texas. Texas is Sam Houston capturing Santa Ana at San Jacinto. Texas is Juneteenth and Texas Independence Day. Texas is huge forests of Piney Woods like the Davy Crockett National Forest. Texas is breathtaking mountains in Big Bend. Texas is shiny skyscrapers in Houston and Dallas. Texas is world record bass from places like Lake Fork. Texas is Mexican food like nowhere in the world, even Mexico. Texas is the Fort Worth Stockyards, Bass Hall, and the Astrodome. Texas is larger-than-life legends like Willie Nelson, Buddy Holly, Waylon Jennings, Janis Joplin, ZZ Top, Eric Dickerson, Earl Campbell, Nolan Ryan,Denton Cooley and Michael DeBakey, Sam Rayburn, George Bush, Lyndon B. Johnson, and George W. Bush. Texas is great companies like Dell Computer, Texas Instruments and Compaq. Texas is huge herds of cattle and miles of crops. Texas is skies blackened with doves, and fields full of deer. Texas is a place where cities shut down for the Cowboys on Monday Night Football, and NIOSA River Parade in San Antonio. Texas is ocean beaches, deserts, lakes and rivers, mountains and prairies, and modern cities. If it isn't in Texas, you don't need it. No one does anything bigger or better than it's done in Texas. By federal law, Texas is the only state in the US that can fly its flag at the same height as the US flag. Think about that for a second. You fly the Stars and Stripes at 20 feet in Maryland, or California, or Maine, and your state flag, whatever it is, goes at 17. You fly the Stars and Stripes in front of Pine Tree High in Longview at 20 feet, the Lone Star flies at the same height - 20 feet. Do you know why? Because we place being a Texan as high as being an American down here. Our capitol is the only one in the country that is taller than the capitol building in Washington, DC and we can divide our state into five states if we want to! We included these things in as part of the deal when we came on. That's the best part right there. If you are a REAL TEXAN, ...pass this on. If you're not, sorry.

Oh!!! Me, too!!! Me, too!!! TIA Carrie in Pecan Gap >From: "brodie sr" <brodie@detnet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Good Map >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:49:05 -0600 > >Jim...l too would like a copy of your map....thanks... >jan brodie >brodie@detnet.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:08 PM >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map > > > > Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After >I >clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally >got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the >spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. > > You can also see many other communities. > > I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done >tonight or early in the a.m., > > it will be late tomorrow night. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== >Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Jim, I also would like a copy of the map. Thanks, Tomi Forney, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Jim Giddens [mailto:jimg@cox-internet.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:09 PM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. You can also see many other communities. I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., it will be late tomorrow night. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Jim,I'd like a copy of the map,please. I knew you could figure out how to work the thing to make it look great. Thanks. Bonnie Provence Shiro Idabel,Oklahoma >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:08:49 -0600 > >Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I >clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally >got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the >spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. >You can also see many other communities. >I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done >tonight or early in the a.m., >it will be late tomorrow night. > >Jim Giddens >Paris, Tx > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Jim, Could you send me a copy too, please. Thanks, Mike Gibson Mesquite, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map > Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. > You can also see many other communities. > I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., > it will be late tomorrow night. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Jim, I would like to have a copy of the map. Thanks. Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is > very good. After I clicked the attachment and > zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got > it centered in on the area of current interest so > the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy > to send it to anyone upon request. > You can also see many other communities. > I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if > it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., > it will be late tomorrow night. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com

I would like a copy too. Joyce Denton, Texas

Jim...l too would like a copy of your map....thanks... jan brodie brodie@detnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map > Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. > You can also see many other communities. > I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., > it will be late tomorrow night. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. You can also see many other communities. I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., it will be late tomorrow night. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

I bet she knows Bill Woods and his older sister Gillie Woods Quick. Diane, I am about to send you a map of the Shiloh / Madras / Concord area northeast of Clarksville from 4 to 7 miles. I zoom in on it but when I prepare it for e-mail, it goes back to the original size. Maybe you can enlarge it or I will try again. The crosses showing the cemeteries are in the exact spot. I will explain it more later as needed. If any one else would like the map, let me know. It is on a larger cardboard backing and has not been easy to scan. Maybe I will learn how to make the zoom hold in place. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx jimg@cox-internet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Miller" <dianermiller@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] smalll correction > I am going to Dallas tomorrow. My mother's aunt (daughter of Mamie Bledsoe > Lannom) lives in Garland. she is 80 years old but very sharp, I will ask her > what she knows about it. Let you know next week. > Diane Miller > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:50 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] smalll correction > > > > Bill said (as we have said), the Shiloh Church moved from Shiloh area to > Madras, but Bill says it is still at Madras and did not move to > Clarksville. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am going to Dallas tomorrow. My mother's aunt (daughter of Mamie Bledsoe Lannom) lives in Garland. she is 80 years old but very sharp, I will ask her what she knows about it. Let you know next week. Diane Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] smalll correction > Bill said (as we have said), the Shiloh Church moved from Shiloh area to Madras, but Bill says it is still at Madras and did not move to Clarksville. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I would appreciate a copy of the map also. Thank you in advance, Linda Smith Southern California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map > Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. > You can also see many other communities. > I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., > it will be late tomorrow night. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jim, If its not too much trouble, I'd like a copy of the map you scanned. Thanks, Jeanne Casey Lakewood, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Good Map > Hey folks, I also sent the map to myself and if is very good. After I clicked the attachment and zoomed it. The print is clear. I finally got it centered in on the area of current interest so the zoom is on the spot. Again, I will be happy to send it to anyone upon request. > You can also see many other communities. > I will be working a full long day tomorrow, so if it does not get done tonight or early in the a.m., > it will be late tomorrow night. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jim I am taking Bill's word, his story matches my Bledsoe's family story, (and after all he is a Bledsoe). Is there anywhere you know of on the web where I could find a map showing the Shiloh, Madras, Clarksville areas? Thanks again Diane Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] smalll correction > Bill said (as we have said), the Shiloh Church moved from Shiloh area to Madras, but Bill says it is still at Madras and did not move to Clarksville. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Bill said (as we have said), the Shiloh Church moved from Shiloh area to Madras, but Bill says it is still at Madras and did not move to Clarksville. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

I just talked with Bill Woods of Madras/Concord. He has lived there all his life. His mother was a Bledsoe. He says the Shiloh Cumberland Presbyterian Church at Madras is the oldest protestant church in Texas (1833). He says The First Presbyterian in Clarksville claims to be the oldest and the church moved from Madras/Shiloh, but that history records do not show that. He says some of the people may have left the Shiloh church and started one in Clarksville, but the old people of Madras say they never left Madras and the church never moved. I have been basing what I have said according to the plaque on the Clarksville Church. Bill has been burning branches/limbs at the Concord Cemetery that fell from the ice storm 2 years ago. He plans to spray weed/grass killer on at the cemetery when the johnson grass starts turning green, probably about another month. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Thanks Diane. I checked your decendants information of McCarley that I have and all seems much a match. I do have George Washington McCarley b. 1814. I found the records where he and Olivia Perry married in 3/14/1837 in Pulaski County, Arkansas. I guess he went to that area from Pope Co., Arkansas for a short time. Or maybe they ran away and married? Who knows. The rest is a good match. You had a few nicknames that I didn't have but that is about all. Glad you could change the spelling of Wallace to Wallis for Sarah (Sallie McCarley) Wallis. Ezekiel P. Wallis and Sarah's children were: William Malcolm Wallis b. 1/21/1827, Somersville, Morgan Co., Alabama (William apprenticed under Charles DeMorse for about 2 years and then moved to Dallas and on to Sevier Co., Arkansas and later to Hope, Arkansas. In Hope, he became a lawyer and died in that town. Washington Wallis b. 4/15/1829, Somersville, Morgan Co, Alabama Mary Jane Wallis b. 12/1/1831, Arkansas Martha Ann Wallis b.12/10/1840 in Red River Co., Texas Martha married into Clarksville's Thomson family. I think Weavers are also a part of this family. Martha and her husband William Richard Thomson are both buried in Stone Chapel Cemetery. John b. 1844, Red River Co., Texas Elizabeth b. 1845, Red River Co., Texas James Edmund Wallis 1/17/1848, Clarksville, Red River Co., Texas Ezekiel P. Wallis b. 11-5-1803 in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina Sarah Margaret McCarley b. 2-12-1806, Montgomery County, Ky. Ezekiel P. and Sallie were married May 6, 1836 in Morgan Co., Alabama Both buried at Stone Chapel, Cherry Community, Red River Co., Texas A person on this list told me that John and Ann (McCarley) Ware are buried on their land in the old Shiloh Cemetery. No headstone, that I was told. Hope this will add to your extended line. If anyone else has any more to add or share, all will be appreciated. Barb