Annette, Thanks so much for transcribing the 1900 census of Red River County. I have been lucky finding in fairly short time information on my family. One of the best is my Grandmother Watson. (Mae Watson, wife of Rev James Elzie Watson) I knew she was a Manning and I knew her parents were buried at Evergreen at Paris in Lamar County. I had been told (jokingly) that Mae was a city girl. I see in the census that her family lived in Red River County in 1900. Mae was only 11 years old, she is listed as Odie M. In the back of my head somewhere was the name Odie. My main pleasure is reading below her name "Wiley R" 9 years old. (a brother). I have several pictures of Wiley, but it did not have his last name. He was in in WW I uniform and later in a police uniform. I had thought maybe he was a Blassingame and a brother-in-law, or maybe even a Watson. I am very pleased to learn Wiley is Wiley Manning, a brother to my grandmother. Mae's father was James J Manning. Mae named her youngest son J.J. Watson for her father. I have spoke of my Uncle J.J. He is now in Clarksville Nursing Home. He has had the mind of a 8 year old since he was 8 and had rheumatic fever. By the way, they are in Pct 7 in house #156/170. I also found my grandfather's uncle, Francis Marion Giddens. They both have the exact same name. It is very neat to see the full family names, ages, place of birth also of parents. The census is also very informative in showing the # of children and # living children. I also enjoy seeing who there neighbors are. It takes some searching, but it is worth it. Thanks again Annette for your efforts. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

JimmyG, Funny how our paths have always run together and crossed several times.My GGGrandfather was 2Lt.Henry McAlister of the 27th Texas Cav..He joined the cause on March 10,1862 on the Clarksville square, 3 days after yours joined. He was;however, in Co.H.. Records show that Companies E,F and H enlistees were from Clarksville and Red River County. I have a copy of a letter stating that he "Received permission to go the rear of the enemy for the purpose of mounting himself. I have heard frequently that he succeeded in mounting all the men he carried with him and is now acting as a guerilla."signed:Maj.John Whitfield,Ross's Brig.,Jackson's Cav Div. Sept.29,1864. Federal records show 2ndLt Henry mcAlister was captured Sept.13,1864 at Stilesboro Ga..He was later sent to Johnson's Island Prison for Confed.Officers. He was there until release on June 16,1865. My GMother said she didn't remember a day that he didn't say someting about those "Yellow Bellied Yankies". I have read reports about the treatment the men in Johnsons Island got and I can understand his feelings. It was reported that during one night in the winter 400 officers died ...froze to death.How much did fire cost? I'm sure the southern prisons were bad also. Henry was married to Clarica Jane Rogers,a granddaughter of Capt. William Becknell. Becknell was the commanding officer of the Red River Blues,the men from the Clarksville area that went to fight at San Jacinto.John Stiles and James Clark were members of this unit.I would bet that there was a Giddens or two in the group. Jim, it's funny how we connect in so many ways but never met until we did through this site. We did and found we were double second cousins. I guess we crossed so many times we had to doubled up someplace. Tom Heath,TX >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TXREDRIV] First born in RR Co// Giddens Research >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:44:40 -0600 > >(I first sent this to my Giddens group, but decided to send it to the RR >Co list also) >(feel free to delete if not interested) > > >Giddens research: >I have just read in a book (Gateway to Texas) of pioneer families that >legend has it that John W Stiles was the first white person born in Red >River Co., Aug 30, 1833. > >My records show that the 6th child for Richard F & Jane Giddens, John >Giddens was born in Red River Co. May 18, 1833. This John Giddens >married Sarah J Stiles, May 1, 1853 in RR Co. >John died as a CSA soldier in Aberdeen, Miss. Not sure if he died of >wound or of disease. >I have had to assume that John was buried in Aberdeen but have never found >documentation on that. Sarah J Stiles Giddens is buried at the English >Cemetery. > >The books also states John Wesley Stiles joined the 27th Cavalry and >assigned to Company F. >I have a copy of the Company Muster Roll. It show John Giddens was in the >same 27 Cav. of Texas and in Co. F. John Giddens enlisted March 7, >1862, He was listed absent in June, 1862 and in Aug roll was listed >under remarks: Died July 11 Aberdeen Miss. > >John Wesley Stiles parents were John Stiles and Sarah Reed Stiles that are >both buried at Concord only a few feet from my GGG GF Richar F Giddens and >his wife Jane. >The elder John Stiles was known for being a friend and host of Sam Houston >& Davie Crockett. >He was a veteran of the Tex Rev War. The land of these two men were >sepeared by the land owned by Edward Hughart. > >Seems to me it is a good chance that John Giddens was the first white >person born in Red River Co. > >This John Giddens is a younger brother of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens >Another brother James Richard Giddens was a Lt in the CSA and died of >wounds received 9 days earlier at the Battle of Dove Creek on the Indian >frontier in Jan 1865. The batte was a few miles west of what is now San >Angelo, Tx > >Jim Giddens >Paris, Tx > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

(I first sent this to my Giddens group, but decided to send it to the RR Co list also) (feel free to delete if not interested) Giddens research: I have just read in a book (Gateway to Texas) of pioneer families that legend has it that John W Stiles was the first white person born in Red River Co., Aug 30, 1833. My records show that the 6th child for Richard F & Jane Giddens, John Giddens was born in Red River Co. May 18, 1833. This John Giddens married Sarah J Stiles, May 1, 1853 in RR Co. John died as a CSA soldier in Aberdeen, Miss. Not sure if he died of wound or of disease. I have had to assume that John was buried in Aberdeen but have never found documentation on that. Sarah J Stiles Giddens is buried at the English Cemetery. The books also states John Wesley Stiles joined the 27th Cavalry and assigned to Company F. I have a copy of the Company Muster Roll. It show John Giddens was in the same 27 Cav. of Texas and in Co. F. John Giddens enlisted March 7, 1862, He was listed absent in June, 1862 and in Aug roll was listed under remarks: Died July 11 Aberdeen Miss. John Wesley Stiles parents were John Stiles and Sarah Reed Stiles that are both buried at Concord only a few feet from my GGG GF Richar F Giddens and his wife Jane. The elder John Stiles was known for being a friend and host of Sam Houston & Davie Crockett. He was a veteran of the Tex Rev War. The land of these two men were sepeared by the land owned by Edward Hughart. Seems to me it is a good chance that John Giddens was the first white person born in Red River Co. This John Giddens is a younger brother of my GG GF Wiley W Giddens Another brother James Richard Giddens was a Lt in the CSA and died of wounds received 9 days earlier at the Battle of Dove Creek on the Indian frontier in Jan 1865. The batte was a few miles west of what is now San Angelo, Tx Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Thanks so much for the help. I will pass it along. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 06:02:34 -0600 "Tomi Jeffers" <tdjeffers@classicnet.net> wrote: >In the Cemetery Records Red River Co, TX by Laurence and >Sue Dale there is >ONE listing as follows that might possibly >Be your Dave Hill. > >Hill, D. L., b. 2 Oct 1890, d: 19 Aug 1894, CEM: >Garland, NOTES: Son of W.H. and Kate, >EPITAPH: GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN > >-----Original Message----- >From: drew-slate@charter.net >[mailto:drew-slate@charter.net] >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 08:04 PM >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Dave Hill burial > >Could someone give me a lookup on a Dave Hill. I am >trying to help this >nice lady out. I think she was hoping the Slate cemetery >could be a >possibilty and there just isn't anyway it could be. > >Thanks, >Drew Slate >Fort Worth, Tx > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Wmemah@aol.com >To: drew-slate@charter.net >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:33 PM >Subject: Slate Cemetery listing > > >I saw your nice pictures and the listing of names of >those buried in the >Slate Cemetery on Red River Co. Website. I am wondering >where that cemetery >is located. Is it near Avery? >I am searching for a Dave Hill who was killed by a >runaway team in 1885 in >Avery, Tx. I am trying to help a relative find where he >is buried. >Thanks, >Wilma Looney >New Boston, Tx. > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== >Visit Red River County GenWeb site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In the Cemetery Records Red River Co, TX by Laurence and Sue Dale there is ONE listing as follows that might possibly Be your Dave Hill. Hill, D. L., b. 2 Oct 1890, d: 19 Aug 1894, CEM: Garland, NOTES: Son of W.H. and Kate, EPITAPH: GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN -----Original Message----- From: drew-slate@charter.net [mailto:drew-slate@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 08:04 PM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXREDRIV] Dave Hill burial Could someone give me a lookup on a Dave Hill. I am trying to help this nice lady out. I think she was hoping the Slate cemetery could be a possibilty and there just isn't anyway it could be. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: Wmemah@aol.com To: drew-slate@charter.net Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Slate Cemetery listing I saw your nice pictures and the listing of names of those buried in the Slate Cemetery on Red River Co. Website. I am wondering where that cemetery is located. Is it near Avery? I am searching for a Dave Hill who was killed by a runaway team in 1885 in Avery, Tx. I am trying to help a relative find where he is buried. Thanks, Wilma Looney New Boston, Tx. ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Could someone give me a lookup on a Dave Hill. I am trying to help this nice lady out. I think she was hoping the Slate cemetery could be a possibilty and there just isn't anyway it could be. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: Wmemah@aol.com To: drew-slate@charter.net Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Slate Cemetery listing I saw your nice pictures and the listing of names of those buried in the Slate Cemetery on Red River Co. Website. I am wondering where that cemetery is located. Is it near Avery? I am searching for a Dave Hill who was killed by a runaway team in 1885 in Avery, Tx. I am trying to help a relative find where he is buried. Thanks, Wilma Looney New Boston, Tx.

Apparently, by 1921 people were ignoring the speed limits, just as some do today. My gg grandfather was killed in town by an automobile hitting him... I have wondered if he wandered out into the car's path or if it actually hit him. (his obit did not say) He was in Sulphur Springs, TX. Mary/Aransas Pass,TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > I don't see a price on a car, but I do read that Clarksville took emergency > action 21 July 1920 with a ordinance regulating the operation of > automobiles. Speed limit of 8 miles per hour within the fire limits of the > city and 15 miles per hour elsewhere in the city., driving on the right side > of the road instead of the middle, and always passing on the left. etc etc > etc,. A fine of not less than $5 and not greater than $100.00 could be > charged. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:18 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > Is the price of the automobile listed? Mary/Aransas Pass,TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > > > > The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever Raging > > in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first car > in > > the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. > > > In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it was a > > Ford > > > > > > In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because the > > next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes > > everybody". > > > > > > It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day said > > the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need > > someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. > > > > > > There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to bed, > > got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.-

In a message dated 3/19/03 7:42:33 AM Central Standard Time, sembrey@cox-internet.com writes: > , Mr. Stevens of Fulbright told me that > he bought a new car in Detroit for $375:00. I'm sure he said it was a Model > " T " Ford, but that is about all I'm sure of. My mother was born in Fulbright in 1907, and I remember her telling me her father, Dol Lassiter bought more than one model T Ford and it was shipped crated and only partially assembled, and the price was about that same amount. Don Cardwell Georgetown, TX

Jim,although I do not have the dates, Mr. Stevens of Fulbright told me that he bought a new car in Detroit for $375:00. I'm sure he said it was a Model " T " Ford, but that is about all I'm sure of. I tell this because someone was asking about the price of cars when they were first sold in the County. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > opps, thanks to correcting it. > On my way to Dallas for a HIPAA meeting to get smart. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Black" <black@1starnet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:53 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > Caught you in a typo, Jim. :-) The emergency ordinance was on July > > 21, 1910 (not 1920). Just 7 months after the first car was sold in the > > county. > > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > > > I don't see a price on a car, but I do read that Clarksville took > > emergency > > action 21 July 1920 with a ordinance regulating the operation of > > automobiles. Speed limit of 8 miles per hour within the fire limits of > > the > > city and 15 miles per hour elsewhere in the city., driving on the right > > side > > of the road instead of the middle, and always passing on the left. etc > > etc > > etc,. A fine of not less than $5 and not greater than $100.00 could be > > charged. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > > > > Is the price of the automobile listed? Mary/Aransas Pass,TX > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > > > > > > > The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever > > Raging > > > in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first > > car > > in > > > the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. > > > > In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it > > was a > > > Ford > > > > > > > > In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because > > the > > > next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes > > > everybody". > > > > > > > > It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day > > said > > > the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need > > > someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. > > > > > > > > There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to > > bed, > > > got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

opps, thanks to correcting it. On my way to Dallas for a HIPAA meeting to get smart. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Black" <black@1starnet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > Caught you in a typo, Jim. :-) The emergency ordinance was on July > 21, 1910 (not 1920). Just 7 months after the first car was sold in the > county. > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > I don't see a price on a car, but I do read that Clarksville took > emergency > action 21 July 1920 with a ordinance regulating the operation of > automobiles. Speed limit of 8 miles per hour within the fire limits of > the > city and 15 miles per hour elsewhere in the city., driving on the right > side > of the road instead of the middle, and always passing on the left. etc > etc > etc,. A fine of not less than $5 and not greater than $100.00 could be > charged. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:18 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > Is the price of the automobile listed? Mary/Aransas Pass,TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > > > > The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever > Raging > > in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first > car > in > > the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. > > > In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it > was a > > Ford > > > > > > In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because > the > > next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes > > everybody". > > > > > > It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day > said > > the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need > > someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. > > > > > > There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to > bed, > > got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Caught you in a typo, Jim. :-) The emergency ordinance was on July 21, 1910 (not 1920). Just 7 months after the first car was sold in the county. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling I don't see a price on a car, but I do read that Clarksville took emergency action 21 July 1920 with a ordinance regulating the operation of automobiles. Speed limit of 8 miles per hour within the fire limits of the city and 15 miles per hour elsewhere in the city., driving on the right side of the road instead of the middle, and always passing on the left. etc etc etc,. A fine of not less than $5 and not greater than $100.00 could be charged. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > Is the price of the automobile listed? Mary/Aransas Pass,TX > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever Raging > in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first car in > the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. > > In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it was a > Ford > > > > In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because the > next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes > everybody". > > > > It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day said > the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need > someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. > > > > There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to bed, > got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

We recently talked of the Poteet name. Todays Paris news has a obit of Hubert Raymond Bolton, he was born in 1918 in Biardstown (south of Paris) to Joel & Ruby Poteet Bolton. (Just a tidbit) Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

I don't see a price on a car, but I do read that Clarksville took emergency action 21 July 1920 with a ordinance regulating the operation of automobiles. Speed limit of 8 miles per hour within the fire limits of the city and 15 miles per hour elsewhere in the city., driving on the right side of the road instead of the middle, and always passing on the left. etc etc etc,. A fine of not less than $5 and not greater than $100.00 could be charged. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary N. Glenn" <mnglenn@the-i.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > Is the price of the automobile listed? Mary/Aransas Pass,TX > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > > > > The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever Raging > in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first car in > the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. > > In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it was a > Ford > > > > In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because the > next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes > everybody". > > > > It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day said > the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need > someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. > > > > There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to bed, > got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.- > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Is the price of the automobile listed? Mary/Aransas Pass,TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling > The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever Raging in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first car in the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. > In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it was a Ford > > In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because the next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes everybody". > > It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day said the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. > > There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to bed, got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.-

Florence brothers names are Van, George, Dozie, & Sylvester and sisters are Henrietta, Maple Gray, Dora, Beatrice, Lena, Alberta, Ellen, Alice, & Ruby. Parents are Clark & Annie Cunningham.

Glad you enjoyed the quarterly, Jim. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Cars in RRCo rambling The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever Raging in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first car in the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it was a Ford In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because the next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes everybody". It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day said the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to bed, got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The quarterly has 3 full pages telling about the Automobile Fever Raging in Clarksville beginning in Nov 1909. A.M. Graves bought the first car in the county. It was a five passenger Cadillac. In Apr of 1910, M.J. Price was the first farmer to by a car, it was a Ford In March of 1910, the car buying stalled for a short time because the next car bought would bear the number "13" and that kind of "buffaloes everybody". It is interesting that the old article in the newspaper of that day said the people of Clarksville had the money to by cars, they had just need someone to break the ice and buy one to get them started. There is a bunch more of interesting stuff, but I had better go to bed, got 3 long days of work starting tomorrow. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

I am reading my RRCoGenSociety Quarterly. I see the Red River was flooded big time in 1908, probably higher water than the 2 floods in 1866 and 1892. I now understand a little bit better when my Dad told me some people that lived near the Red River would bring the people to Concord for burial because of the flood of the river. There are several things that my Dad would tell me that sometimes I would wonder if he knew what he was talking about, but I trusted him and at a later point in time, I would find a article or writing that would confirm what he was saying. Such as him telling me that my GGGG GF Reuben Giddens was buried in a lost grave at Lone Star Cemetery southeast of Clarksville about 6 miles, when his children and grandchildren were buried at Concord 7 miles northeast of Clarksville. Later I ran across document showing that the Lone Star cemetery is on land that was Reuben's land as one of the original land owners of Red River Co. Reuben Giddens died in 1853 and was probably buried in his own pasture. The land for the cemetery was purchase for the cemetery association about 17 years later. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. Sharon, thanks so much for the quarterly, you do a great job.

I want to thank all of you for your kindness in trying to help me. Barbara, I only wish the records were there. You see, when they "protested" and burned records in MO, this was a part of the records that were lost. It wasn't just the 1890 census. I just found out his records were among the ones lost. I found a WWII survivors and family mailing list and told his son about it. I hope they can help him. I gave it my best, and won't quit for a while yet! Just wanted to say thank you to everyone. Peggy in Plano To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Records > If you want to get an address for the soldiers records call the National > Archives in Fort Worth, Texas and they will give you the St. Louis address > where the records are kept. > The # is 817-334 5525. They will be glad to help. I do volunteer work there. > Barbara > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Barbara, Where do you live? I suspect somewhere close since you are volunteering down at the archives. My aunt goes down some and researches. I need to get there myself and do some digging. I here it is quite large and you can get lost in it. Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <BanC36@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Records > If you want to get an address for the soldiers records call the National > Archives in Fort Worth, Texas and they will give you the St. Louis address > where the records are kept. > The # is 817-334 5525. They will be glad to help. I do volunteer work there. > Barbara > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >