Seems I recalled the surname Clack being mentioned recently, maybe not. But just in case, the a marker at the Dean Cemetery of Tennessee B Clack 1844 to 1929 Theodore Clack 1878-1908 J.A. Clack 1841-1912 This trip I did find the marker of my wife's great grandmother, Mattie Parks Townes Jan 20, 1864 to Dec 22, 1903 in the same row a few feet away is Mrs Elizabeth Parks, April 5, 1823 to Apr 16, 1906 I wonder if this could be Mattie's mother the next marker is Anna M Bourne Jul 4, 1854 to Apr 7, 1907. then Carrie Bourne, Aug 23, 1875 to May 15, 1933, wife of R.M. Lamb. I know we have or did have a Lamb on this board. There are several Lennox markers, I will only list one (double marker)for now. David Lennox Mary Dean Lennox May 12, 1829 to Apr 30, 1908 Jan 18, 1825 to Oct 28, 1910 Father Mother Also maybe of interest to someone. Thomas E Dean born Ky 1831 died Dec 1854 son of E.M & S. Dean (This is a great genealogy information marker) God Bless America God Bless our Troops Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Thanks Vivi. I have a few things in mind and those are two of them. I will start a little investigating to determine what has already been done. Eddie sent me a map showing the proposed lake. I need to hear from some others though that know the situation close up so I know what is being done and what needs to be done. I will send you a copy of whatever I get though. Thanks, Drew On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:35:56 GMT viviargyris1@juno.com wrote: >drew, > >if you contact the army corp. of engineers, i think they >will have a copy of the report on the lakes. if not, >contact the local senator of that area and he/she will >have a report. > >let me know if you receive a report. > >vivi argyris >denton, tx > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I had a good run to Clarksville today. I went to the Times, Becky Hale (Main Street project), the DeMorse house, the vanished cemetery at Robbinsville, and Dean Cemetery. I a good time talking with John Somerville. More details later when time allows. Also in the old Coca Cola building, you can look through the glass and see the large replicas built by Aden Petty of the courthouse and the DeMorse house. Today fresh Clarksville Times is full of Mrs Anita Perry (gov's wife) to Clarksville/ God Bless America God Bless our troops Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Jim, I have a document that stated where he was from and it said Avery. It was on the document where he joined the CSA. Now, the document could have been completed later, when the town actually became Avery. That is a very interesting point. I will have to do research on that, when I get time. Thanks for replying. Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > If I remember Eddie's writing on Avery, It did not > exist until the railroad > put in a watering stop for the train and I believe > that was in the 1870s. > Check me out on that. Well I am on my way to see > Connie Anderson > Somerville that living and works at home in the old > Robbinsville location. > She does my taxes. The Somervilles have owned and > farmed that land for > over 150 years. > Later, > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" <kmitchell32@yahoo.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > Jim, the documents that I have states that he was > > living in the Avery area. > > I don't know how far Avery extended back in those > days > > of 1862. John C and great grandmother Sarah A > > Williams (from the English area) were married on > > Christmas Day 1866. > > > > Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell > > > > --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > > > Kathy, > > > Do you know where your Hutchinsons were living > > > during that time. Was it > > > in the Concord/White Rock area? > > > Later, > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris, Tx > > > p.s. I will check in late tonight > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kathy" <kmitchell32@yahoo.com> > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > > > > > > > Hello Jim and Tom, > > > > I am following Y'alls text with great > interest. > > > My > > > > Confederate Ancestor Great Granddaddy > > > > John C Hutchinson enlisted March 7, 1862 at > > > > Clarksville, TX. He enlisted in Company F 1st > > > Texas > > > > Legion 27th Cavalry. John C daddy was Nelson > B > > > > Hutchinson that was also a early member of the > > > Concord > > > > Church. > > > > Y'all keep on talking. Very interesting. > > > > > > > > Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > > > > > Tom, John Giddens joined the 27 Cav Mar > 7, > > > in > > > > > Clarksville by Ed West for > > > > > a period of 12 months.1862, 3 days earlier > than > > > > > your GG GF. My > > > > > imagination could get to moving here. > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > Paris,Tx > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Tom Watson DDS" > > > <tom_watson_dds@hotmail.com> > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:25 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JimmyG, > > > > > > Funny how our paths have always run > together > > > and > > > > > crossed several > > > > > times.My > > > > > > GGGrandfather was 2Lt.Henry McAlister of > the > > > 27th > > > > > Texas Cav..He joined the > > > > > > cause on March 10,1862 on the Clarksville > > > square, > > > > > 3 days after yours > > > > > joined. > > > > > > He was;however, in Co.H.. Records show > that > > > > > Companies E,F and H enlistees > > > > > > were from Clarksville and Red River > County. I > > > have > > > > > a copy of a letter > > > > > > stating that he "Received permission to go > the > > > > > rear of the enemy for the > > > > > > purpose of mounting himself. I have heard > > > > > frequently that he succeeded in > > > > > > mounting all the men he carried with him > and > > > is > > > > > now acting as a > > > > > > guerilla."signed:Maj.John Whitfield,Ross's > > > > > Brig.,Jackson's Cav Div. > > > > > > Sept.29,1864. > > > > > > Federal records show 2ndLt Henry > mcAlister > > > was > > > > > captured Sept.13,1864 at > > > > > > Stilesboro Ga..He was later sent to > Johnson's > > > > > Island Prison for > > > > > > Confed.Officers. He was there until > release on > > > > > June 16,1865. > > > > > > My GMother said she didn't remember a > day > > > that > > > > > he didn't say someting > > > > > > about those "Yellow Bellied Yankies". I > have > > > read > > > > > reports about the > > > > > > treatment the men in Johnsons Island got > and I > > > can > > > > > understand his > > > > > feelings. > > > > > > It was reported that during one night in > the > > > > > winter 400 officers died > > > > > > ...froze to death.How much did fire cost? > I'm > > > sure > > > > > the southern prisons > > > > > were > > > > > > bad also. > > > > > > Henry was married to Clarica Jane > Rogers,a > > > > > granddaughter of Capt. > > > > > William > > > > > > Becknell. Becknell was the commanding > officer > > > of > > > > > the Red River Blues,the > > > > > men > > > > > > from the Clarksville area that went to > fight > > > at > > > > > San Jacinto.John Stiles > > > > > and > > > > > > James Clark were members of this unit.I > would > > > bet > > > > > that there was a Giddens > > > > > > or two in the group. > > > > > > Jim, it's funny how we connect in so > many > > > ways > > > > > but never met until we > > > > > did > > > > > > through this site. We did and found we > were > > > double > > > > > second cousins. I guess > > > > > > we crossed so many times we had to doubled > up > > > > > someplace. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Heath,TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" > <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: [TXREDRIV] First born in RR Co// > > > Giddens > > > > > Research > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:44:40 -0600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(I first sent this to my Giddens group, > but > > > > > decided to send it to the RR > > > > > > >Co list also) > > > > > > >(feel free to delete if not interested) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Giddens research: > > > > > > >I have just read in a book (Gateway to > Texas) > > > of > > > > > pioneer families that > > > > > > >legend has it that John W Stiles was the > > > first > > > > > white person born in Red > > > > > > >River Co., Aug 30, 1833. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My records show that the 6th child for > > > Richard F > > > > > & Jane Giddens, John > > > > > > >Giddens was born in Red River Co. May > 18, > > > 1833. > > > > > This John Giddens > > > > > > >married Sarah J Stiles, May 1, 1853 in > RR > > > Co. > > > > > > >John died as a CSA soldier in Aberdeen, > Miss. > > > > > Not sure if he died of > > > > > > >wound or of disease. > > > > > > >I have had to assume that John was buried > in > > > > > Aberdeen but have never > > > > > found > > > > > > >documentation on that. Sarah J Stiles > > > Giddens > > > > > is buried at the English > > > > > > >Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The books also states John Wesley Stiles > > > joined > > > > > the 27th Cavalry and > > > > > > >assigned to Company F. > > > > > > >I have a copy of the Company Muster Roll. > > > It > > > > > show John Giddens was in > > > > > the > > > > > > >same 27 Cav. of Texas and in Co. F. > John > > > > > Giddens enlisted March 7, > > > > > > >1862, He was listed absent in June, > 1862 > > > and > > > > > in Aug roll was listed > > > > > > >under remarks: Died July 11 Aberdeen > Miss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >John Wesley Stiles parents were John > Stiles > > > and > > > > > Sarah Reed Stiles that > > > > > are > > > > > > >both buried at Concord only a few feet > from > > > my > > > > > GGG GF Richar F Giddens > > > > > and > > > > > > >his wife Jane. > > > > > > >The elder John Stiles was known for being > a > > > > > friend and host of Sam > > > > > Houston > > > > > > >& Davie Crockett. > > > > > > >He was a veteran of the Tex Rev War. > The > > > land > > > > > of these two men were > > > > > > >sepeared by the land owned by Edward > Hughart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Seems to me it is a good chance that John > > > Giddens > > > > > was the first white > > > > > > >person born in Red River Co. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >This John Giddens is a younger brother of > my > > > GG > > > > > GF Wiley W Giddens > > > > > > >Another brother James Richard Giddens was > a > > > Lt in > > > > > the CSA and died of > > > > > > >wounds received 9 days earlier at the > Battle > > > of > > > > > Dove Creek on the Indian > > > > > > >frontier in Jan 1865. 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drew, if you contact the army corp. of engineers, i think they will have a copy of the report on the lakes. if not, contact the local senator of that area and he/she will have a report. let me know if you receive a report. vivi argyris denton, tx

Betty, I don't have any Beene's in my lines that I am aware of, but I have a Jesse L. Greer b. ca. 1918 to Benjamin "Ben" Franklin and Lottie Mae (Patton) Greer in Red River County. I cannot be sure on Jesse's middle name, but he was the grandson of Jesse Levi and Elizabeth (Rycraft) Greer. Mike Gibson Mesquite, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > Bonnie S. and Mary G. and Jim G., > > Thanks for the Bean names and the Poteet obit from Lamar Co. (probably my Poteet line). I have been researching for > the last week, as yet I have found no connection but there might be a connection, I just don't have enough > information yet. > > I did find another Bean birth and marriage information. Ova Bean married Jessie Earl Greer and had a child Ellie > Fay Greer born in RR co. in 1935. Does anyone know this family? > > Betty B. > Huntsville, TX > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > Betty,first let me say,belatedly,welcome to the list. I do not really know > > any of the Bean's that I mentioned well enough to even say anything. My > > brother-in law and sister-in-law are Bean's and their Grandparents were from > > Clarksville,Tx. The man's name was Hardy Bean and that is the extent of my > > knowledge. The brother-in-law has done some searching for relatives and my > > sister did lots of the research,but I am not really involved in their > > searching. My sister passed away in 2001,so I really don't know anything > > more. > > The name just caught my eye,but I hope you find much info. These folks on > > this Red River list will help a lot. They are great folks! Luck to you. > > Bonnie Shiro,Idabel,Ok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:09:59 -0600 > > > > > >Bonnie, > > > > > >My name is Beene. But, Bean is a variable spelling. The spellings that I > > >have found of the line that I am > > >researching in Red River Co., TX is Bean but I found marriage record where > > >the name was spelled Been. They are all > > >the same, Bean/Beene/Been/Beane, etc. Which Bean are you related by > > >marriage? > > > > > >Betty > > >Huntsville, TX > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:12 PM > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > > > > Ok,Becky,is your name spelled Bean or Beene? I am related by marriage to > > > > Bean's,hence my question. Bonnie in Idabel,Ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:30:37 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > > > > > >I have a Jim Poteet born in 1905 which could be Donald Poteet's father > > >or > > > > >grandfather. Phoebe May Billingsley > > > > >married Joseph Richard Humphrey in Lamar Co., TX in 1897, they are both > > > > >buried at Evergreen Cemetery, Lamar Co., > > > > >TX. I haven't found any of their children yet. > > > > > > > > > >My goodness, yes, I know Dr. Adkins. My husband hung most of the > > >wallpaper > > > > >in his house and he used to be my > > > > >doctor. I did not know that he was from that area of Northeast Texas. > > > > > > > > > >Yes, we enjoy having the statue here of Sam. I am a graduate of Sam > > > > >Houston State University along with my husband > > > > >and quite a few family members. Look for the Bearkats on TV Friday > > >playing > > > > >for the first time "ever" in the NCAA > > > > >Basketball tournament from Tampa, FL. They are playing the Florida > > >Gators, > > > > >our odds are only 2,500 to 1 of winning > > > > >but quite an experience for our university. > > > > > > > > > >Looking forward to hearing more news about descendants of my husband's > > > > >family. I only found them in Red River and > > > > >Lamar Co., TX a week ago. I have been researching this family for 6 > > >years. > > > > > > > > > >Betty Beene > > > > >Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:19 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty, > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Humphrey people still in Red River County. I know > > >the > > > > >Lone > > > > > > Star Cemetery has many of them. > > > > > > I also had a classmate Donald Poteet living in the Dimple area north > > >of > > > > > > Clarksville about 6 miles that has a son working at Allen Lumber > > >Company > > > > >in > > > > > > Clarksville. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is one of the reasons I like to know where people live. You > > >live > > > > >in > > > > > > Huntsville as does a class mate of mine of the class of 59 of > > > > >Clarksville > > > > > > High School. He is Dr Jack Atkins. He is a OB/Gyn doctor. > > >He > > > > >is > > > > > > married to the daughter of Dr Wright that was a old doctor in > > > > >Clarksville in > > > > > > the 50s when I was a teen there. This Atkins still have a ranch > > >at > > > > > > Vessey in northeast Red River Co. and one in west RR Co on Hwy US 82 > > > > >just > > > > > > west of Detroit just before you come to where the railroad overpass > > >was > > > > > > until recent years. You will see the Atkins Ranch sign. > > >Jack's > > > > > > brother Eddie is a multi-business man here in the Paris area. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I am rambling but often tidbits are a surprising help to > > >someone, > > > > > if > > > > > > not for you or me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I sure like that Sam Houston stature in Huntsville. I pass it > > >when we > > > > >go > > > > > > to Lake Conroe to visit one of or children. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a good day and thanks for joining our little group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > Paris/Reno/Clarksville, Tx > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid I don't have enough information to connect with any of > > >the > > > > > > names you gave me except for Wade H. Lowrance > > > > > > > but I have not tied him to parents yet. Phoebe Bean married > > >William > > > > >M. > > > > > > Lowrance in 1868 in Red River Co., TX, > > > > > > > children Sam, John, Alice, Annie, Mary, Willie and Catherine that > > >I > > > > >know > > > > > > of so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a L. R. Bean in Red River Co. in 1880 census born in TN > > > > >about > > > > > > 1822 who is probably related to my Beans, > > > > > > > could be a son of William. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other surnames in Red River Co. are Hamil, Poteet, Humphrey, > > >Thrower > > > > >and > > > > > > Pulattie. They were in the Clarksville > > > > > > > and Manchester area. Mary Jane Bean Billingsley moved to Lamar > > >Co. in > > > > > > 1880. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty Beene > > > > > > > Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the board. Is your name Betty Beene? We are a > > > > >friendly & > > > > > > > > helpful board with many people exchanging information. I > > >help > > > > >all I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > as do others. It gets a little confusing at time trying to > > >keep > > > > >up > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > all the different messages and request when people do not give > > >their > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > At least that goes for me. It also help me to keep my > > >interest if > > > > >I > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > where the person lives. My personal request is for all to sign > > >off > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > their name (first and last) and where they live. This is not > > >a > > > > > > > > requirement of the board and certainly not a demand (but a > > >request) > > > > >by > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > My reason for this may sound strange or unfriendly to new > > >members, > > > > >but > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > time goes on I think you will see and agree of its importance in > > > > >adding > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the interest and input to the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a few tidbits of information that may help in > > >this > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > at this time, but maybe after some research I will have more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your listed surnames are very common in Red River county. We > > >have > > > > > > Carl > > > > > > > > Bean Motors that recently closed, > > > > > > > > Ester L Lawrence (maybe Lowrance) was the second wife of my GG > > >Gf > > > > >Wiley > > > > > > W > > > > > > > > Giddens and is buried at Concord Cemetery in Red River Co. > > >Also > > > > >the > > > > > > > > records show at Concord a Wade H Lowrance died Dec 1918 and was > > >a > > > > >Pvt in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 70 Balloon Btn. My Concord plot map drawn up by my dad show 3 > > > > >other > > > > > > > > Lawrence (Lorwarnce ) gave, all in the are of Ester L Giddens. > > > > >One of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Lawrence graves has dates of b 1-25-1858 died 1-4-1908. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payne: there are some Payne graves at Blanton Creek Cemetery > > >north > > > > >of > > > > > > > > Bagwell. I believe Dr Payne (at Clarksville when I was a teen > > >in > > > > >the > > > > > > 50s) > > > > > > > > is buried at Blanton Creek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not help, but maybe these tidbits can be of some help > > >to > > > > >you, > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > just never know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list. Looking for information on William > > >Bean > > > > > > family, > > > > > > > > William married to Ellinorah in 1870 census of Red River Co., > > >TX, > > > > > > children > > > > > > > > Phoebe Elizabeth married William Lowrance, Mary Jane married to > > > > >William > > > > > > P. > > > > > > > > Billingsley, Nancy W. married to John G. Payne. Does anyone > > >have > > > > >any > > > > > > > > information on this Bean family? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > >genealogy > > > > > > records, > > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > > > records, go to: > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > >records, > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > >records, go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > >records, > > > > >go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > >records, go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Jim & others I just wanted to put my input on what I saw in Clarksville yesterday, as I was driving down main street I saw big yellow bows and ribbons tied on doors, tree's, etc. Also lining Main Street was United States Flags,on each side of the road. I live here so I dont notice those Golden Arch's (unless kids are begging ) but it was with pride that I noticed the yellow ribbons & flags. My personal opinion, I hope they remain where they are untill this war is over. As a reminder of the men & women who are fighting for our country. I hope you dont take me wrong, as Im not complaining at all about what you said, I just wanted to say what I noticed & I belive alot of times, when one lives somewhere, it gets to where you dont notice things because it's a everyday occurance, but put something new up & I notice. Have a great day Darla Campbell Clarksville, Texas Also I wanted to point out to anyone in RR Co that may know what to do about this, there are countless streets inside the city limits that have no stop signs, I have thought about doing a project myself & getting a map to pin point each place that there are crossroads & no stop signs on either side. But as with the creeks not having names, I figured that there was no money for signs. Just a concern of mine, especially for drivers that are not aware of this problem, (the ones whom like me when I moved here last summer), that may drive, see no stop sign in front of them & drive on. And at same time another driver thinking the same thing, it's a accident waiting to happen all over town. Again just my opinion.

Drew, this one is not a Corps of engineers lake -- theirs are flood control projects, and the Marvin Nichols lake is a water resources project, under the control of the Sulphur River Basin Authority (SRBA)a body of (unpaid) local representatives appointed by the governor. I was a member of the board a few years ago, so have some acquaintance with the project. It is not expected to be built for a couple of decades, more or less. All water in Texas belongs to the State, not the landowners, and has been developed when required to meet the water needs of Texas' growing industry and growing population. The Marvin Nichols site, not yet defined in detail, will indeed flood some gravesites and other "heritage"sites, including ones in Red River County. The Authority will have to pay for the graves' relocation, the amount varying according to the expense of the move. Just as in the case of highway construction, the land of private owners whose land will be covered or "mitigated" for the project will be bought from them by time-honored procedures, on the "eminent domain" principle. Your dictionary can define this phrase better than I can. As has always been the experience throughout Texas, the water impounded will be a tremendous economic and fiscal boon to the area. Professors at North Texas State University estimate that even at today's prices the economic benefit to the area, conservatively estimated, will be well up in the $Nine-figure range. Red River County's 80-year economic decline will be reversed. Naturally some affected landowners (particularly heirs of the folks listed in Lawrence and Sue Dale's Red River County cemetery book) are up in arms . For some reason, lake projects always arouse a lot more vocal opposition of this kind than do highway projects, which often involve much more private land. Fortunately, the law creating the SRBA gives control over the arrangements for financing the project (which will cost up in ten figures) to the Region. After water is reserved for the needs of the area, the DFW metroplex, which will buy or market most of the SRBA bonds, will be the principal user of the impounded water. If anyone is interested, I could post SRBA's address so that questions can be more authoritatively answered. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DREW SLATE" <drew-slate@charter.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] just talk > Is this new lake the one that will be over on the > Bowie/Red River county line? I have spoken with Lawrence > about a new lake that is going to cause some serious > cemetery problems. It appears in present plans that there > will be a few cememteries that will be UNDER water. > Anyone have any information on this? I will dig up the > last email I got my Lawrence on it and maybe that will > help. If I remember correctly it will in the SE area of > the county. > > Thanks, > Drew Slate > Fort Worth, Tx > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 04:55:12 -0600 > "jhowison" <jhowison@1starnet.com> wrote: > >Thanks, Sam, for the reminder. The "Main Street" project > >is really an > >upper. Becky Hale is the Honcho, and doing a super job. > > Any alums visiting > >Clarksville will be glad they stopped by her "shop" on > >the north side of the > >square. > >Unfortunately, Clarksville's economy won't turn around > >until they build > >Marvin Nichols lake, but that is some years in the future > >-- some folks > >oppose the lake anyway. But we can hope that the > >county's economy has > >already "bottomed out." > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:03 AM > >Subject: [TXREDRIV] just talk > > > > > >> I feel sure that many of you know already, but in case > >>you don't, pull up > >the Paris News on your computer, and you will find it > >full of Clarksville > >happenings. Also, for a change, most of it seems good, > >and GOD knows it is > >time some of the bad stuff is not the main issues. Who > >knows, the old girl > >might be on it's way back, at least we can hope so. > >> Sam > >> Paris > >> > >> > >> ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >>genealogy records, > >go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Joe, I don't know if you remember, but there was a Manuel Geer (spell?) that was a commissioner from Bagwell, and I think he has a son in Whiterite,Tex. that has a reasthome there. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOE W PETERSON" <joepete@juno.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: Fw: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > Betty, > Now that you mention it there were Gears in Red River County. > However I notice you spell the Greer and that is another family > off shoot of the Garrett Family. Edna Pauline Garrett maried > James Carrell Grear on 27 Dec 1933 and had 3 children. They were living > in Bolder Co.in the 1960's That is the extent on my notes > sorry could not furnish you more. > joepete > joepete@juno.com > > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:32:43 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > Message-ID: <007101c2f3ac$f565a900$3008879e@shsu.edu> > References: <BAY2-F112SbPkPuOlvX0006a967@hotmail.com> > > Bonnie S. and Mary G. and Jim G., > Thanks for the Bean names and the Poteet obit from Lamar Co. (probably my > Poteet line). I have been researching for the last week, as yet I have > found no connection but there might be a connection, I just don't have > enough information yet. > I did find another Bean birth and marriage information. Ova Bean married > Jessie Earl Greer and had a child Ellie Fay Greer born in RR co. in 1935. > Does anyone know this family? > > Betty B. > Huntsville, TX > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > Betty,first let me say,belatedly,welcome to the list. I do not really > know > > any of the Bean's that I mentioned well enough to even say anything. My > > brother-in law and sister-in-law are Bean's and their Grandparents were > from > > Clarksville,Tx. The man's name was Hardy Bean and that is the extent of > my > > knowledge. The brother-in-law has done some searching for relatives and > my > > sister did lots of the research,but I am not really involved in their > > searching. My sister passed away in 2001,so I really don't know > anything > > more. > > The name just caught my eye,but I hope you find much info. These folks > on > > this Red River list will help a lot. They are great folks! Luck to you. > > Bonnie Shiro,Idabel,Ok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:09:59 -0600 > > > > > >Bonnie, > > > > > >My name is Beene. But, Bean is a variable spelling. The spellings > that I > > >have found of the line that I am > > >researching in Red River Co., TX is Bean but I found marriage record > where > > >the name was spelled Been. They are all > > >the same, Bean/Beene/Been/Beane, etc. Which Bean are you related by > > >marriage? > > > > > >Betty > > >Huntsville, TX > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:12 PM > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > > > > Ok,Becky,is your name spelled Bean or Beene? I am related by > marriage to > > > > Bean's,hence my question. Bonnie in Idabel,Ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:30:37 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > > > > > >I have a Jim Poteet born in 1905 which could be Donald Poteet's > father > > >or > > > > >grandfather. Phoebe May Billingsley > > > > >married Joseph Richard Humphrey in Lamar Co., TX in 1897, they are > both > > > > >buried at Evergreen Cemetery, Lamar Co., > > > > >TX. I haven't found any of their children yet. > > > > > > > > > >My goodness, yes, I know Dr. Adkins. My husband hung most of the > > >wallpaper > > > > >in his house and he used to be my > > > > >doctor. I did not know that he was from that area of Northeast > Texas. > > > > > > > > > >Yes, we enjoy having the statue here of Sam. I am a graduate of > Sam > > > > >Houston State University along with my husband > > > > >and quite a few family members. Look for the Bearkats on TV > Friday > > >playing > > > > >for the first time "ever" in the NCAA > > > > >Basketball tournament from Tampa, FL. They are playing the > Florida > > >Gators, > > > > >our odds are only 2,500 to 1 of winning > > > > >but quite an experience for our university. > > > > > > > > > >Looking forward to hearing more news about descendants of my > husband's > > > > >family. I only found them in Red River and > > > > >Lamar Co., TX a week ago. I have been researching this family for > 6 > > >years. > > > > > > > > > >Betty Beene > > > > >Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:19 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty, > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Humphrey people still in Red River County. I > know > > >the > > > > >Lone > > > > > > Star Cemetery has many of them. > > > > > > I also had a classmate Donald Poteet living in the Dimple area > north > > >of > > > > > > Clarksville about 6 miles that has a son working at Allen > Lumber > > >Company > > > > >in > > > > > > Clarksville. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is one of the reasons I like to know where people live. > You > > >live > > > > >in > > > > > > Huntsville as does a class mate of mine of the class of 59 of > > > > >Clarksville > > > > > > High School. He is Dr Jack Atkins. He is a OB/Gyn doctor. > > >He > > > > >is > > > > > > married to the daughter of Dr Wright that was a old doctor in > > > > >Clarksville in > > > > > > the 50s when I was a teen there. This Atkins still have a > ranch > > >at > > > > > > Vessey in northeast Red River Co. and one in west RR Co on Hwy > US 82 > > > > >just > > > > > > west of Detroit just before you come to where the railroad > overpass > > >was > > > > > > until recent years. You will see the Atkins Ranch sign. > > >Jack's > > > > > > brother Eddie is a multi-business man here in the Paris area. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I am rambling but often tidbits are a surprising help to > > >someone, > > > > > if > > > > > > not for you or me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I sure like that Sam Houston stature in Huntsville. I pass > it > > >when we > > > > >go > > > > > > to Lake Conroe to visit one of or children. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a good day and thanks for joining our little group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > Paris/Reno/Clarksville, Tx > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid I don't have enough information to connect with > any of > > >the > > > > > > names you gave me except for Wade H. Lowrance > > > > > > > but I have not tied him to parents yet. Phoebe Bean married > > >William > > > > >M. > > > > > > Lowrance in 1868 in Red River Co., TX, > > > > > > > children Sam, John, Alice, Annie, Mary, Willie and Catherine > that > > >I > > > > >know > > > > > > of so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a L. R. Bean in Red River Co. in 1880 census born > in TN > > > > >about > > > > > > 1822 who is probably related to my Beans, > > > > > > > could be a son of William. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other surnames in Red River Co. are Hamil, Poteet, Humphrey, > > >Thrower > > > > >and > > > > > > Pulattie. They were in the Clarksville > > > > > > > and Manchester area. Mary Jane Bean Billingsley moved to > Lamar > > >Co. in > > > > > > 1880. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty Beene > > > > > > > Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the board. Is your name Betty Beene? We are > a > > > > >friendly & > > > > > > > > helpful board with many people exchanging information. > I > > >help > > > > >all I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > as do others. It gets a little confusing at time trying > to > > >keep > > > > >up > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > all the different messages and request when people do not > give > > >their > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > At least that goes for me. It also help me to keep my > > >interest if > > > > >I > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > where the person lives. My personal request is for all to > sign > > >off > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > their name (first and last) and where they live. This is > not > > >a > > > > > > > > requirement of the board and certainly not a demand (but a > > >request) > > > > >by > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > My reason for this may sound strange or unfriendly to new > > >members, > > > > >but > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > time goes on I think you will see and agree of its > importance in > > > > >adding > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the interest and input to the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a few tidbits of information that may help > in > > >this > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > at this time, but maybe after some research I will have > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your listed surnames are very common in Red River county. > We > > >have > > > > > > Carl > > > > > > > > Bean Motors that recently closed, > > > > > > > > Ester L Lawrence (maybe Lowrance) was the second wife of my > GG > > >Gf > > > > >Wiley > > > > > > W > > > > > > > > Giddens and is buried at Concord Cemetery in Red River Co. > > >Also > > > > >the > > > > > > > > records show at Concord a Wade H Lowrance died Dec 1918 and > was > > >a > > > > >Pvt in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 70 Balloon Btn. My Concord plot map drawn up by my dad > show 3 > > > > >other > > > > > > > > Lawrence (Lorwarnce ) gave, all in the are of Ester L > Giddens. > > > > >One of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Lawrence graves has dates of b 1-25-1858 died 1-4-1908. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payne: there are some Payne graves at Blanton Creek > Cemetery > > >north > > > > >of > > > > > > > > Bagwell. I believe Dr Payne (at Clarksville when I was a > teen > > >in > > > > >the > > > > > > 50s) > > > > > > > > is buried at Blanton Creek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not help, but maybe these tidbits can be of some > help > > >to > > > > >you, > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > just never know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list. Looking for information on > William > > >Bean > > > > > > family, > > > > > > > > William married to Ellinorah in 1870 census of Red River > Co., > > >TX, > > > > > > children > > > > > > > > Phoebe Elizabeth married William Lowrance, Mary Jane > married to > > > > >William > > > > > > P. > > > > > > > > Billingsley, Nancy W. married to John G. Payne. Does > anyone > > >have > > > > >any > > > > > > > > information on this Bean family? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > >genealogy > > > > > > records, > > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > > > > > > records, go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > > > > >records, > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > > > > >records, go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > >records, > > > > >go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > >records, go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Betty, Now that you mention it there were Gears in Red River County. However I notice you spell the Greer and that is another family off shoot of the Garrett Family. Edna Pauline Garrett maried James Carrell Grear on 27 Dec 1933 and had 3 children. They were living in Bolder Co.in the 1960's That is the extent on my notes sorry could not furnish you more. joepete joepete@juno.com --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:32:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. Message-ID: <007101c2f3ac$f565a900$3008879e@shsu.edu> References: <BAY2-F112SbPkPuOlvX0006a967@hotmail.com> Bonnie S. and Mary G. and Jim G., Thanks for the Bean names and the Poteet obit from Lamar Co. (probably my Poteet line). I have been researching for the last week, as yet I have found no connection but there might be a connection, I just don't have enough information yet. I did find another Bean birth and marriage information. Ova Bean married Jessie Earl Greer and had a child Ellie Fay Greer born in RR co. in 1935. Does anyone know this family? Betty B. Huntsville, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > Betty,first let me say,belatedly,welcome to the list. I do not really know > any of the Bean's that I mentioned well enough to even say anything. My > brother-in law and sister-in-law are Bean's and their Grandparents were from > Clarksville,Tx. The man's name was Hardy Bean and that is the extent of my > knowledge. The brother-in-law has done some searching for relatives and my > sister did lots of the research,but I am not really involved in their > searching. My sister passed away in 2001,so I really don't know anything > more. > The name just caught my eye,but I hope you find much info. These folks on > this Red River list will help a lot. They are great folks! Luck to you. > Bonnie Shiro,Idabel,Ok > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:09:59 -0600 > > > >Bonnie, > > > >My name is Beene. But, Bean is a variable spelling. The spellings that I > >have found of the line that I am > >researching in Red River Co., TX is Bean but I found marriage record where > >the name was spelled Been. They are all > >the same, Bean/Beene/Been/Beane, etc. Which Bean are you related by > >marriage? > > > >Betty > >Huntsville, TX > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:12 PM > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > Ok,Becky,is your name spelled Bean or Beene? I am related by marriage to > > > Bean's,hence my question. Bonnie in Idabel,Ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:30:37 -0600 > > > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > > > >I have a Jim Poteet born in 1905 which could be Donald Poteet's father > >or > > > >grandfather. Phoebe May Billingsley > > > >married Joseph Richard Humphrey in Lamar Co., TX in 1897, they are both > > > >buried at Evergreen Cemetery, Lamar Co., > > > >TX. I haven't found any of their children yet. > > > > > > > >My goodness, yes, I know Dr. Adkins. My husband hung most of the > >wallpaper > > > >in his house and he used to be my > > > >doctor. I did not know that he was from that area of Northeast Texas. > > > > > > > >Yes, we enjoy having the statue here of Sam. I am a graduate of Sam > > > >Houston State University along with my husband > > > >and quite a few family members. Look for the Bearkats on TV Friday > >playing > > > >for the first time "ever" in the NCAA > > > >Basketball tournament from Tampa, FL. They are playing the Florida > >Gators, > > > >our odds are only 2,500 to 1 of winning > > > >but quite an experience for our university. > > > > > > > >Looking forward to hearing more news about descendants of my husband's > > > >family. I only found them in Red River and > > > >Lamar Co., TX a week ago. I have been researching this family for 6 > >years. > > > > > > > >Betty Beene > > > >Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:19 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty, > > > > > > > > > > There are many Humphrey people still in Red River County. I know > >the > > > >Lone > > > > > Star Cemetery has many of them. > > > > > I also had a classmate Donald Poteet living in the Dimple area north > >of > > > > > Clarksville about 6 miles that has a son working at Allen Lumber > >Company > > > >in > > > > > Clarksville. > > > > > > > > > > Here is one of the reasons I like to know where people live. You > >live > > > >in > > > > > Huntsville as does a class mate of mine of the class of 59 of > > > >Clarksville > > > > > High School. He is Dr Jack Atkins. He is a OB/Gyn doctor. > >He > > > >is > > > > > married to the daughter of Dr Wright that was a old doctor in > > > >Clarksville in > > > > > the 50s when I was a teen there. This Atkins still have a ranch > >at > > > > > Vessey in northeast Red River Co. and one in west RR Co on Hwy US 82 > > > >just > > > > > west of Detroit just before you come to where the railroad overpass > >was > > > > > until recent years. You will see the Atkins Ranch sign. > >Jack's > > > > > brother Eddie is a multi-business man here in the Paris area. > > > > > > > > > > I know I am rambling but often tidbits are a surprising help to > >someone, > > > > if > > > > > not for you or me. > > > > > > > > > > I sure like that Sam Houston stature in Huntsville. I pass it > >when we > > > >go > > > > > to Lake Conroe to visit one of or children. > > > > > > > > > > Have a good day and thanks for joining our little group. > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > Paris/Reno/Clarksville, Tx > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid I don't have enough information to connect with any of > >the > > > > > names you gave me except for Wade H. Lowrance > > > > > > but I have not tied him to parents yet. Phoebe Bean married > >William > > > >M. > > > > > Lowrance in 1868 in Red River Co., TX, > > > > > > children Sam, John, Alice, Annie, Mary, Willie and Catherine that > >I > > > >know > > > > > of so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a L. R. Bean in Red River Co. in 1880 census born in TN > > > >about > > > > > 1822 who is probably related to my Beans, > > > > > > could be a son of William. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other surnames in Red River Co. are Hamil, Poteet, Humphrey, > >Thrower > > > >and > > > > > Pulattie. They were in the Clarksville > > > > > > and Manchester area. Mary Jane Bean Billingsley moved to Lamar > >Co. in > > > > > 1880. > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty Beene > > > > > > Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the board. Is your name Betty Beene? We are a > > > >friendly & > > > > > > > helpful board with many people exchanging information. I > >help > > > >all I > > > > > can > > > > > > > as do others. It gets a little confusing at time trying to > >keep > > > >up > > > > > with > > > > > > > all the different messages and request when people do not give > >their > > > > > name. > > > > > > > At least that goes for me. It also help me to keep my > >interest if > > > >I > > > > > know > > > > > > > where the person lives. My personal request is for all to sign > >off > > > > > with > > > > > > > their name (first and last) and where they live. This is not > >a > > > > > > > requirement of the board and certainly not a demand (but a > >request) > > > >by > > > > > me. > > > > > > > My reason for this may sound strange or unfriendly to new > >members, > > > >but > > > > > as > > > > > > > time goes on I think you will see and agree of its importance in > > > >adding > > > > > to > > > > > > > the interest and input to the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a few tidbits of information that may help in > >this > > > > > question > > > > > > > at this time, but maybe after some research I will have more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your listed surnames are very common in Red River county. We > >have > > > > > Carl > > > > > > > Bean Motors that recently closed, > > > > > > > Ester L Lawrence (maybe Lowrance) was the second wife of my GG > >Gf > > > >Wiley > > > > > W > > > > > > > Giddens and is buried at Concord Cemetery in Red River Co. > >Also > > > >the > > > > > > > records show at Concord a Wade H Lowrance died Dec 1918 and was > >a > > > >Pvt in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 70 Balloon Btn. My Concord plot map drawn up by my dad show 3 > > > >other > > > > > > > Lawrence (Lorwarnce ) gave, all in the are of Ester L Giddens. > > > >One of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lawrence graves has dates of b 1-25-1858 died 1-4-1908. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payne: there are some Payne graves at Blanton Creek Cemetery > >north > > > >of > > > > > > > Bagwell. I believe Dr Payne (at Clarksville when I was a teen > >in > > > >the > > > > > 50s) > > > > > > > is buried at Blanton Creek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not help, but maybe these tidbits can be of some help > >to > > > >you, > > > > > you > > > > > > > just never know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:20 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list. Looking for information on William > >Bean > > > > > family, > > > > > > > William married to Ellinorah in 1870 census of Red River Co., > >TX, > > > > > children > > > > > > > Phoebe Elizabeth married William Lowrance, Mary Jane married to > > > >William > > > > > P. > > > > > > > Billingsley, Nancy W. married to John G. Payne. Does anyone > >have > > > >any > > > > > > > information on this Bean family? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >genealogy > > > > > records, > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > > records, go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > >records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > >records, go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > > > >go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I don't have time now, but this will get into politics which may should be discussed privately. I know we have different views on this board and both need to be respected. But yes, that is the lake. It has been put on hold. I do not know what the future holds for it. I still wish they would go back to the drawing board for the lake on the north Red River Co north of the Dimple area. But these are two separate issues (lakes). Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "DREW SLATE" <drew-slate@charter.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] just talk > Is this new lake the one that will be over on the > Bowie/Red River county line? I have spoken with Lawrence > about a new lake that is going to cause some serious > cemetery problems. It appears in present plans that there > will be a few cememteries that will be UNDER water. > Anyone have any information on this? I will dig up the > last email I got my Lawrence on it and maybe that will > help. If I remember correctly it will in the SE area of > the county. > > Thanks, > Drew Slate > Fort Worth, Tx > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 04:55:12 -0600 > "jhowison" <jhowison@1starnet.com> wrote: > >Thanks, Sam, for the reminder. The "Main Street" project > >is really an > >upper. Becky Hale is the Honcho, and doing a super job. > > Any alums visiting > >Clarksville will be glad they stopped by her "shop" on > >the north side of the > >square. > >Unfortunately, Clarksville's economy won't turn around > >until they build > >Marvin Nichols lake, but that is some years in the future > >-- some folks > >oppose the lake anyway. But we can hope that the > >county's economy has > >already "bottomed out." > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:03 AM > >Subject: [TXREDRIV] just talk > > > > > >> I feel sure that many of you know already, but in case > >>you don't, pull up > >the Paris News on your computer, and you will find it > >full of Clarksville > >happenings. Also, for a change, most of it seems good, > >and GOD knows it is > >time some of the bad stuff is not the main issues. Who > >knows, the old girl > >might be on it's way back, at least we can hope so. > >> Sam > >> Paris > >> > >> > >> ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >>genealogy records, > >go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

If I remember Eddie's writing on Avery, It did not exist until the railroad put in a watering stop for the train and I believe that was in the 1870s. Check me out on that. Well I am on my way to see Connie Anderson Somerville that living and works at home in the old Robbinsville location. She does my taxes. The Somervilles have owned and farmed that land for over 150 years. Later, Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <kmitchell32@yahoo.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > Jim, the documents that I have states that he was > living in the Avery area. > I don't know how far Avery extended back in those days > of 1862. John C and great grandmother Sarah A > Williams (from the English area) were married on > Christmas Day 1866. > > Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell > > --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > > Kathy, > > Do you know where your Hutchinsons were living > > during that time. Was it > > in the Concord/White Rock area? > > Later, > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > p.s. I will check in late tonight > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy" <kmitchell32@yahoo.com> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > > > > Hello Jim and Tom, > > > I am following Y'alls text with great interest. > > My > > > Confederate Ancestor Great Granddaddy > > > John C Hutchinson enlisted March 7, 1862 at > > > Clarksville, TX. He enlisted in Company F 1st > > Texas > > > Legion 27th Cavalry. John C daddy was Nelson B > > > Hutchinson that was also a early member of the > > Concord > > > Church. > > > Y'all keep on talking. Very interesting. > > > > > > Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell > > > > > > > > > --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > > > > Tom, John Giddens joined the 27 Cav Mar 7, > > in > > > > Clarksville by Ed West for > > > > a period of 12 months.1862, 3 days earlier than > > > > your GG GF. My > > > > imagination could get to moving here. > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > Paris,Tx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Tom Watson DDS" > > <tom_watson_dds@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:25 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > > > > > > > > > > JimmyG, > > > > > Funny how our paths have always run together > > and > > > > crossed several > > > > times.My > > > > > GGGrandfather was 2Lt.Henry McAlister of the > > 27th > > > > Texas Cav..He joined the > > > > > cause on March 10,1862 on the Clarksville > > square, > > > > 3 days after yours > > > > joined. > > > > > He was;however, in Co.H.. Records show that > > > > Companies E,F and H enlistees > > > > > were from Clarksville and Red River County. I > > have > > > > a copy of a letter > > > > > stating that he "Received permission to go the > > > > rear of the enemy for the > > > > > purpose of mounting himself. I have heard > > > > frequently that he succeeded in > > > > > mounting all the men he carried with him and > > is > > > > now acting as a > > > > > guerilla."signed:Maj.John Whitfield,Ross's > > > > Brig.,Jackson's Cav Div. > > > > > Sept.29,1864. > > > > > Federal records show 2ndLt Henry mcAlister > > was > > > > captured Sept.13,1864 at > > > > > Stilesboro Ga..He was later sent to Johnson's > > > > Island Prison for > > > > > Confed.Officers. He was there until release on > > > > June 16,1865. > > > > > My GMother said she didn't remember a day > > that > > > > he didn't say someting > > > > > about those "Yellow Bellied Yankies". I have > > read > > > > reports about the > > > > > treatment the men in Johnsons Island got and I > > can > > > > understand his > > > > feelings. > > > > > It was reported that during one night in the > > > > winter 400 officers died > > > > > ...froze to death.How much did fire cost? I'm > > sure > > > > the southern prisons > > > > were > > > > > bad also. > > > > > Henry was married to Clarica Jane Rogers,a > > > > granddaughter of Capt. > > > > William > > > > > Becknell. Becknell was the commanding officer > > of > > > > the Red River Blues,the > > > > men > > > > > from the Clarksville area that went to fight > > at > > > > San Jacinto.John Stiles > > > > and > > > > > James Clark were members of this unit.I would > > bet > > > > that there was a Giddens > > > > > or two in the group. > > > > > Jim, it's funny how we connect in so many > > ways > > > > but never met until we > > > > did > > > > > through this site. We did and found we were > > double > > > > second cousins. I guess > > > > > we crossed so many times we had to doubled up > > > > someplace. > > > > > Tom > > > > > Heath,TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Subject: [TXREDRIV] First born in RR Co// > > Giddens > > > > Research > > > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:44:40 -0600 > > > > > > > > > > > >(I first sent this to my Giddens group, but > > > > decided to send it to the RR > > > > > >Co list also) > > > > > >(feel free to delete if not interested) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Giddens research: > > > > > >I have just read in a book (Gateway to Texas) > > of > > > > pioneer families that > > > > > >legend has it that John W Stiles was the > > first > > > > white person born in Red > > > > > >River Co., Aug 30, 1833. > > > > > > > > > > > >My records show that the 6th child for > > Richard F > > > > & Jane Giddens, John > > > > > >Giddens was born in Red River Co. May 18, > > 1833. > > > > This John Giddens > > > > > >married Sarah J Stiles, May 1, 1853 in RR > > Co. > > > > > >John died as a CSA soldier in Aberdeen, Miss. > > > > Not sure if he died of > > > > > >wound or of disease. > > > > > >I have had to assume that John was buried in > > > > Aberdeen but have never > > > > found > > > > > >documentation on that. Sarah J Stiles > > Giddens > > > > is buried at the English > > > > > >Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > > > >The books also states John Wesley Stiles > > joined > > > > the 27th Cavalry and > > > > > >assigned to Company F. > > > > > >I have a copy of the Company Muster Roll. > > It > > > > show John Giddens was in > > > > the > > > > > >same 27 Cav. of Texas and in Co. F. John > > > > Giddens enlisted March 7, > > > > > >1862, He was listed absent in June, 1862 > > and > > > > in Aug roll was listed > > > > > >under remarks: Died July 11 Aberdeen Miss. > > > > > > > > > > > >John Wesley Stiles parents were John Stiles > > and > > > > Sarah Reed Stiles that > > > > are > > > > > >both buried at Concord only a few feet from > > my > > > > GGG GF Richar F Giddens > > > > and > > > > > >his wife Jane. > > > > > >The elder John Stiles was known for being a > > > > friend and host of Sam > > > > Houston > > > > > >& Davie Crockett. > > > > > >He was a veteran of the Tex Rev War. The > > land > > > > of these two men were > > > > > >sepeared by the land owned by Edward Hughart. > > > > > > > > > > > >Seems to me it is a good chance that John > > Giddens > > > > was the first white > > > > > >person born in Red River Co. > > > > > > > > > > > >This John Giddens is a younger brother of my > > GG > > > > GF Wiley W Giddens > > > > > >Another brother James Richard Giddens was a > > Lt in > > > > the CSA and died of > > > > > >wounds received 9 days earlier at the Battle > > of > > > > Dove Creek on the Indian > > > > > >frontier in Jan 1865. The batte was a few > > miles > > > > west of what is now San > > > > > >Angelo, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > >Jim Giddens > > > > > >Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > > billion > > > > online genealogy records, > > > > > >go to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Yes, It is good to see the Paris News reporting positive events/news in Clarksville. Go to www.theparisnews.com As I drove through Clarksville yesterday about 7:30 a.m. on my way to Texarkana, the only access to drive on the square was only Main Street. Road blocks prevented any turning up Locust or Walnut onto the square. As I was driving back through Clarksville about 7 p.m. (dark) I had to stop for the red light at the southeast corner of the square. I had forgotten at that point that Mrs Perry had been there that day, but I was thinking about the Clarksville square having such a great early Texas history. However I was a little set back (stressed) that the thing that was most "attention grabbing" in my vision was the Golden Arches of the new MacDonalds about 3 or 4 block up Main Street from me. The huge, bright yellow golden arches seem to be dominating my vision and seemed to appear as tall as a water tower. Maybe this is why the events of the day on the square did not enter into my mind. Yes, I was wondering if that was all some people may see is McDonalds and not the history of Red River County. I think and hope this new Main Street Project will do a great part in reviving the city and the county. I could go on and on about the economics of past and present and future of Red River County but I will rest for now. I will say that RR Co must have a better tax base, jobs, investments and people spending money in RR Co. This will not be a easy task to achieve. Recently I asked the Highway Dept in Clarksville about putting up signs naming the creeks, but he told me the county was too poor to spend money on such non essentials projects. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] just talk > I feel sure that many of you know already, but in case you don't, pull up the Paris News on your computer, and you will find it full of Clarksville happenings. Also, for a change, most of it seems good, and GOD knows it is time some of the bad stuff is not the main issues. Who knows, the old girl might be on it's way back, at least we can hope so. > Sam > Paris > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Is this new lake the one that will be over on the Bowie/Red River county line? I have spoken with Lawrence about a new lake that is going to cause some serious cemetery problems. It appears in present plans that there will be a few cememteries that will be UNDER water. Anyone have any information on this? I will dig up the last email I got my Lawrence on it and maybe that will help. If I remember correctly it will in the SE area of the county. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 04:55:12 -0600 "jhowison" <jhowison@1starnet.com> wrote: >Thanks, Sam, for the reminder. The "Main Street" project >is really an >upper. Becky Hale is the Honcho, and doing a super job. > Any alums visiting >Clarksville will be glad they stopped by her "shop" on >the north side of the >square. >Unfortunately, Clarksville's economy won't turn around >until they build >Marvin Nichols lake, but that is some years in the future >-- some folks >oppose the lake anyway. But we can hope that the >county's economy has >already "bottomed out." >----- Original Message ----- >From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:03 AM >Subject: [TXREDRIV] just talk > > >> I feel sure that many of you know already, but in case >>you don't, pull up >the Paris News on your computer, and you will find it >full of Clarksville >happenings. Also, for a change, most of it seems good, >and GOD knows it is >time some of the bad stuff is not the main issues. Who >knows, the old girl >might be on it's way back, at least we can hope so. >> Sam >> Paris >> >> >> ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >>genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bonnie S. and Mary G. and Jim G., Thanks for the Bean names and the Poteet obit from Lamar Co. (probably my Poteet line). I have been researching for the last week, as yet I have found no connection but there might be a connection, I just don't have enough information yet. I did find another Bean birth and marriage information. Ova Bean married Jessie Earl Greer and had a child Ellie Fay Greer born in RR co. in 1935. Does anyone know this family? Betty B. Huntsville, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > Betty,first let me say,belatedly,welcome to the list. I do not really know > any of the Bean's that I mentioned well enough to even say anything. My > brother-in law and sister-in-law are Bean's and their Grandparents were from > Clarksville,Tx. The man's name was Hardy Bean and that is the extent of my > knowledge. The brother-in-law has done some searching for relatives and my > sister did lots of the research,but I am not really involved in their > searching. My sister passed away in 2001,so I really don't know anything > more. > The name just caught my eye,but I hope you find much info. These folks on > this Red River list will help a lot. They are great folks! Luck to you. > Bonnie Shiro,Idabel,Ok > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:09:59 -0600 > > > >Bonnie, > > > >My name is Beene. But, Bean is a variable spelling. The spellings that I > >have found of the line that I am > >researching in Red River Co., TX is Bean but I found marriage record where > >the name was spelled Been. They are all > >the same, Bean/Beene/Been/Beane, etc. Which Bean are you related by > >marriage? > > > >Betty > >Huntsville, TX > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bonnie Shiro" <bon_yelle@hotmail.com> > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:12 PM > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > Ok,Becky,is your name spelled Bean or Beene? I am related by marriage to > > > Bean's,hence my question. Bonnie in Idabel,Ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:30:37 -0600 > > > > > > > >Jim, > > > > > > > >I have a Jim Poteet born in 1905 which could be Donald Poteet's father > >or > > > >grandfather. Phoebe May Billingsley > > > >married Joseph Richard Humphrey in Lamar Co., TX in 1897, they are both > > > >buried at Evergreen Cemetery, Lamar Co., > > > >TX. I haven't found any of their children yet. > > > > > > > >My goodness, yes, I know Dr. Adkins. My husband hung most of the > >wallpaper > > > >in his house and he used to be my > > > >doctor. I did not know that he was from that area of Northeast Texas. > > > > > > > >Yes, we enjoy having the statue here of Sam. I am a graduate of Sam > > > >Houston State University along with my husband > > > >and quite a few family members. Look for the Bearkats on TV Friday > >playing > > > >for the first time "ever" in the NCAA > > > >Basketball tournament from Tampa, FL. They are playing the Florida > >Gators, > > > >our odds are only 2,500 to 1 of winning > > > >but quite an experience for our university. > > > > > > > >Looking forward to hearing more news about descendants of my husband's > > > >family. I only found them in Red River and > > > >Lamar Co., TX a week ago. I have been researching this family for 6 > >years. > > > > > > > >Betty Beene > > > >Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:19 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help & rambling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty, > > > > > > > > > > There are many Humphrey people still in Red River County. I know > >the > > > >Lone > > > > > Star Cemetery has many of them. > > > > > I also had a classmate Donald Poteet living in the Dimple area north > >of > > > > > Clarksville about 6 miles that has a son working at Allen Lumber > >Company > > > >in > > > > > Clarksville. > > > > > > > > > > Here is one of the reasons I like to know where people live. You > >live > > > >in > > > > > Huntsville as does a class mate of mine of the class of 59 of > > > >Clarksville > > > > > High School. He is Dr Jack Atkins. He is a OB/Gyn doctor. > >He > > > >is > > > > > married to the daughter of Dr Wright that was a old doctor in > > > >Clarksville in > > > > > the 50s when I was a teen there. This Atkins still have a ranch > >at > > > > > Vessey in northeast Red River Co. and one in west RR Co on Hwy US 82 > > > >just > > > > > west of Detroit just before you come to where the railroad overpass > >was > > > > > until recent years. You will see the Atkins Ranch sign. > >Jack's > > > > > brother Eddie is a multi-business man here in the Paris area. > > > > > > > > > > I know I am rambling but often tidbits are a surprising help to > >someone, > > > > if > > > > > not for you or me. > > > > > > > > > > I sure like that Sam Houston stature in Huntsville. I pass it > >when we > > > >go > > > > > to Lake Conroe to visit one of or children. > > > > > > > > > > Have a good day and thanks for joining our little group. > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > Paris/Reno/Clarksville, Tx > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid I don't have enough information to connect with any of > >the > > > > > names you gave me except for Wade H. Lowrance > > > > > > but I have not tied him to parents yet. Phoebe Bean married > >William > > > >M. > > > > > Lowrance in 1868 in Red River Co., TX, > > > > > > children Sam, John, Alice, Annie, Mary, Willie and Catherine that > >I > > > >know > > > > > of so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a L. R. Bean in Red River Co. in 1880 census born in TN > > > >about > > > > > 1822 who is probably related to my Beans, > > > > > > could be a son of William. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other surnames in Red River Co. are Hamil, Poteet, Humphrey, > >Thrower > > > >and > > > > > Pulattie. They were in the Clarksville > > > > > > and Manchester area. Mary Jane Bean Billingsley moved to Lamar > >Co. in > > > > > 1880. > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty Beene > > > > > > Huntsville, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:26 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the board. Is your name Betty Beene? We are a > > > >friendly & > > > > > > > helpful board with many people exchanging information. I > >help > > > >all I > > > > > can > > > > > > > as do others. It gets a little confusing at time trying to > >keep > > > >up > > > > > with > > > > > > > all the different messages and request when people do not give > >their > > > > > name. > > > > > > > At least that goes for me. It also help me to keep my > >interest if > > > >I > > > > > know > > > > > > > where the person lives. My personal request is for all to sign > >off > > > > > with > > > > > > > their name (first and last) and where they live. This is not > >a > > > > > > > requirement of the board and certainly not a demand (but a > >request) > > > >by > > > > > me. > > > > > > > My reason for this may sound strange or unfriendly to new > >members, > > > >but > > > > > as > > > > > > > time goes on I think you will see and agree of its importance in > > > >adding > > > > > to > > > > > > > the interest and input to the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a few tidbits of information that may help in > >this > > > > > question > > > > > > > at this time, but maybe after some research I will have more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your listed surnames are very common in Red River county. We > >have > > > > > Carl > > > > > > > Bean Motors that recently closed, > > > > > > > Ester L Lawrence (maybe Lowrance) was the second wife of my GG > >Gf > > > >Wiley > > > > > W > > > > > > > Giddens and is buried at Concord Cemetery in Red River Co. > >Also > > > >the > > > > > > > records show at Concord a Wade H Lowrance died Dec 1918 and was > >a > > > >Pvt in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 70 Balloon Btn. My Concord plot map drawn up by my dad show 3 > > > >other > > > > > > > Lawrence (Lorwarnce ) gave, all in the are of Ester L Giddens. > > > >One of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lawrence graves has dates of b 1-25-1858 died 1-4-1908. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payne: there are some Payne graves at Blanton Creek Cemetery > >north > > > >of > > > > > > > Bagwell. I believe Dr Payne (at Clarksville when I was a teen > >in > > > >the > > > > > 50s) > > > > > > > is buried at Blanton Creek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not help, but maybe these tidbits can be of some help > >to > > > >you, > > > > > you > > > > > > > just never know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Giddens > > > > > > > Paris, Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Betty Beene" <pur_bsb@shsu.edu> > > > > > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:20 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Bean-Need help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list. Looking for information on William > >Bean > > > > > family, > > > > > > > William married to Ellinorah in 1870 census of Red River Co., > >TX, > > > > > children > > > > > > > Phoebe Elizabeth married William Lowrance, Mary Jane married to > > > >William > > > > > P. > > > > > > > Billingsley, Nancy W. married to John G. Payne. Does anyone > >have > > > >any > > > > > > > information on this Bean family? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >genealogy > > > > > records, > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > > records, go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > >records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > >records, go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > > > >go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Jim, the documents that I have states that he was living in the Avery area. I don't know how far Avery extended back in those days of 1862. John C and great grandmother Sarah A Williams (from the English area) were married on Christmas Day 1866. Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > Kathy, > Do you know where your Hutchinsons were living > during that time. Was it > in the Concord/White Rock area? > Later, > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > p.s. I will check in late tonight > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" <kmitchell32@yahoo.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > Hello Jim and Tom, > > I am following Y'alls text with great interest. > My > > Confederate Ancestor Great Granddaddy > > John C Hutchinson enlisted March 7, 1862 at > > Clarksville, TX. He enlisted in Company F 1st > Texas > > Legion 27th Cavalry. John C daddy was Nelson B > > Hutchinson that was also a early member of the > Concord > > Church. > > Y'all keep on talking. Very interesting. > > > > Kathy Hutchinson Mitchell > > > > > > --- Jim Giddens <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: > > > Tom, John Giddens joined the 27 Cav Mar 7, > in > > > Clarksville by Ed West for > > > a period of 12 months.1862, 3 days earlier than > > > your GG GF. My > > > imagination could get to moving here. > > > Jim Giddens > > > Paris,Tx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Watson DDS" > <tom_watson_dds@hotmail.com> > > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:25 AM > > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 27th Texas Cav. > > > > > > > > > > JimmyG, > > > > Funny how our paths have always run together > and > > > crossed several > > > times.My > > > > GGGrandfather was 2Lt.Henry McAlister of the > 27th > > > Texas Cav..He joined the > > > > cause on March 10,1862 on the Clarksville > square, > > > 3 days after yours > > > joined. > > > > He was;however, in Co.H.. Records show that > > > Companies E,F and H enlistees > > > > were from Clarksville and Red River County. I > have > > > a copy of a letter > > > > stating that he "Received permission to go the > > > rear of the enemy for the > > > > purpose of mounting himself. I have heard > > > frequently that he succeeded in > > > > mounting all the men he carried with him and > is > > > now acting as a > > > > guerilla."signed:Maj.John Whitfield,Ross's > > > Brig.,Jackson's Cav Div. > > > > Sept.29,1864. > > > > Federal records show 2ndLt Henry mcAlister > was > > > captured Sept.13,1864 at > > > > Stilesboro Ga..He was later sent to Johnson's > > > Island Prison for > > > > Confed.Officers. He was there until release on > > > June 16,1865. > > > > My GMother said she didn't remember a day > that > > > he didn't say someting > > > > about those "Yellow Bellied Yankies". I have > read > > > reports about the > > > > treatment the men in Johnsons Island got and I > can > > > understand his > > > feelings. > > > > It was reported that during one night in the > > > winter 400 officers died > > > > ...froze to death.How much did fire cost? I'm > sure > > > the southern prisons > > > were > > > > bad also. > > > > Henry was married to Clarica Jane Rogers,a > > > granddaughter of Capt. > > > William > > > > Becknell. Becknell was the commanding officer > of > > > the Red River Blues,the > > > men > > > > from the Clarksville area that went to fight > at > > > San Jacinto.John Stiles > > > and > > > > James Clark were members of this unit.I would > bet > > > that there was a Giddens > > > > or two in the group. > > > > Jim, it's funny how we connect in so many > ways > > > but never met until we > > > did > > > > through this site. We did and found we were > double > > > second cousins. I guess > > > > we crossed so many times we had to doubled up > > > someplace. > > > > Tom > > > > Heath,TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > > > > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: [TXREDRIV] First born in RR Co// > Giddens > > > Research > > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:44:40 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >(I first sent this to my Giddens group, but > > > decided to send it to the RR > > > > >Co list also) > > > > >(feel free to delete if not interested) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Giddens research: > > > > >I have just read in a book (Gateway to Texas) > of > > > pioneer families that > > > > >legend has it that John W Stiles was the > first > > > white person born in Red > > > > >River Co., Aug 30, 1833. > > > > > > > > > >My records show that the 6th child for > Richard F > > > & Jane Giddens, John > > > > >Giddens was born in Red River Co. May 18, > 1833. > > > This John Giddens > > > > >married Sarah J Stiles, May 1, 1853 in RR > Co. > > > > >John died as a CSA soldier in Aberdeen, Miss. > > > Not sure if he died of > > > > >wound or of disease. > > > > >I have had to assume that John was buried in > > > Aberdeen but have never > > > found > > > > >documentation on that. Sarah J Stiles > Giddens > > > is buried at the English > > > > >Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > >The books also states John Wesley Stiles > joined > > > the 27th Cavalry and > > > > >assigned to Company F. > > > > >I have a copy of the Company Muster Roll. > It > > > show John Giddens was in > > > the > > > > >same 27 Cav. of Texas and in Co. F. John > > > Giddens enlisted March 7, > > > > >1862, He was listed absent in June, 1862 > and > > > in Aug roll was listed > > > > >under remarks: Died July 11 Aberdeen Miss. > > > > > > > > > >John Wesley Stiles parents were John Stiles > and > > > Sarah Reed Stiles that > > > are > > > > >both buried at Concord only a few feet from > my > > > GGG GF Richar F Giddens > > > and > > > > >his wife Jane. > > > > >The elder John Stiles was known for being a > > > friend and host of Sam > > > Houston > > > > >& Davie Crockett. > > > > >He was a veteran of the Tex Rev War. The > land > > > of these two men were > > > > >sepeared by the land owned by Edward Hughart. > > > > > > > > > >Seems to me it is a good chance that John > Giddens > > > was the first white > > > > >person born in Red River Co. > > > > > > > > > >This John Giddens is a younger brother of my > GG > > > GF Wiley W Giddens > > > > >Another brother James Richard Giddens was a > Lt in > > > the CSA and died of > > > > >wounds received 9 days earlier at the Battle > of > > > Dove Creek on the Indian > > > > >frontier in Jan 1865. 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The problem I find researching Phillips is that the name has origins in many different countries. Most of my other surnames I can trace to a specific country of origin. Besides the Poolville connection the only other Phillips connection without a blood relation is my wife. When I first met her I knew she was divorced, but didn't know she was using her maiden name. I was surprised to find out that her grandfather was a Jewish Phillips from Latvia. Her brother has documents that show the original name is similar to Phillips, but it is written in Cyrillic characters. He was the first to come to the US in the late 1800s. When his siblings came over they used the same translation. Gene At 07:37 PM 3/25/03, you wrote: >No Gene, I don't know of any books on Poolville. I will check around >though. I am sure there are some in the Weatherford library. I will keep >my eyes open. > >I need to look a little further into the Phillips though. I will let you >know if I find a connection or anything of interest. > >Thanks for your time and info., >Drew Slate >Fort Worth, Tx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gene Phillips" <gnphllps@comcast.net> >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:43 PM >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] New to list > > >> At 03:41 PM 3/23/03, you wrote: >> > As far as Parker County goes, my mother's whole side of the family is >from >> >there. The two main families for me are Burns and Aslinger. I don't >have >> >any Pool families in my records though. I do know where Poolville is >though >> >and actually was there just a few weeks ago looking for a burial of a >Martin >> >family member. I have family there and in Peaster, which is just south >of >> >Poolville. Most of my family is either in Zion Hill or Annetta. >> >> Do you happen to know of a published historyof Poolville? >> >> > How far back can you go on the Phillips? Right now, I only have back to >> >1844. The oldest known now is George Washington Phillips. >> >> My earliest Phillips is William H Phillips, b about 1803 in TN. His wife >was Elizabeth Washington Maxwell. They had a son, George born 1833 TN. They >lived in what is now the Brentwood area of Nashville, near Traveler's rest. >Elizabeth's sister married John Overton Jr who built Traveler's rest and her >father lived south of Traveler's Rest. Other children were Henry, Jesse, >William, Andrew Jackson, Rebecca, Emma and Benjamin, my gg-gf. >> >> Gene >> >> >> ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks, Sam, for the reminder. The "Main Street" project is really an upper. Becky Hale is the Honcho, and doing a super job. Any alums visiting Clarksville will be glad they stopped by her "shop" on the north side of the square. Unfortunately, Clarksville's economy won't turn around until they build Marvin Nichols lake, but that is some years in the future -- some folks oppose the lake anyway. But we can hope that the county's economy has already "bottomed out." ----- Original Message ----- From: "sam embrey" <sembrey@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] just talk > I feel sure that many of you know already, but in case you don't, pull up the Paris News on your computer, and you will find it full of Clarksville happenings. Also, for a change, most of it seems good, and GOD knows it is time some of the bad stuff is not the main issues. Who knows, the old girl might be on it's way back, at least we can hope so. > Sam > Paris > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I feel sure that many of you know already, but in case you don't, pull up the Paris News on your computer, and you will find it full of Clarksville happenings. Also, for a change, most of it seems good, and GOD knows it is time some of the bad stuff is not the main issues. Who knows, the old girl might be on it's way back, at least we can hope so. Sam Paris

No Gene, I don't know of any books on Poolville. I will check around though. I am sure there are some in the Weatherford library. I will keep my eyes open. I need to look a little further into the Phillips though. I will let you know if I find a connection or anything of interest. Thanks for your time and info., Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Phillips" <gnphllps@comcast.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] New to list > At 03:41 PM 3/23/03, you wrote: > > As far as Parker County goes, my mother's whole side of the family is from > >there. The two main families for me are Burns and Aslinger. I don't have > >any Pool families in my records though. I do know where Poolville is though > >and actually was there just a few weeks ago looking for a burial of a Martin > >family member. I have family there and in Peaster, which is just south of > >Poolville. Most of my family is either in Zion Hill or Annetta. > > Do you happen to know of a published historyof Poolville? > > > How far back can you go on the Phillips? Right now, I only have back to > >1844. The oldest known now is George Washington Phillips. > > My earliest Phillips is William H Phillips, b about 1803 in TN. His wife was Elizabeth Washington Maxwell. They had a son, George born 1833 TN. They lived in what is now the Brentwood area of Nashville, near Traveler's rest. Elizabeth's sister married John Overton Jr who built Traveler's rest and her father lived south of Traveler's Rest. Other children were Henry, Jesse, William, Andrew Jackson, Rebecca, Emma and Benjamin, my gg-gf. > > Gene > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >