Is somebody on the list using an anti-spam program called QuickCop? Please get in touch with me immediately. This is causing problems every time somebody sends a message to the list. Thanks, Cynthia

I ran across this in some news articles today. I thought it was interesting and would share it with everyone. It shows some differences in cultures. Big Money for Final Resting Place Thu Apr 10, 9:59 AM ET BEIJING (Reuters) - Sprawling graveyards have become the latest token of wealth and influence for Chinese, after premium homes and luxury cars, with a healthy 14-year-old youth boasting his own tomb, a newspaper reported on Thursday. The teenager's grave, choice white marble, was near Tianjin, about three hours' drive from Beijing, the Guangzhou Daily said. Beside the tomb were graves for five of his family, just two of whom are dead, and the cost of the luxury complex was estimated at more than 300,000 yuan ($36,240), it said. One slot was for the teenager's future wife, it added. The Chinese tradition of burying the dead was considered "feudalist" and banned in 1954 by the Communist Party, which then adopted cremation in a bid to save shrinking arable land. But sleek graveyards have managed to find their way back over 20 years of market-oriented reforms with a rising middle-class craving for social prestige. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx

Though I have ties to Paris with surnames of Goessman and Bransford, Highberger, McShane. I don't recognize these. (If anyone has information on the above surnames please respond.) This is a generous offering and will no doubt benefit some researcher. I wish more people would follow your example. Mary/Aransas Pass, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <HORSEnAROUND247@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] family bible > Hello everyone, Bible looking for FAMILY, about 10 yrs or so ago my parents > bought a storage full of things from some man by last name of Landers that > was from Paris, I found this bible back then in all that stuff & if any of > these names look familar & you can prove this is your family, I will give you > the bible. I've had it in my possessin all these years with the intention of > giving it away. Wish I had a family bible that was as well worn & defintely > used like this one was, page after page with handwritten notes on them. > Names are : > Bobby Matlock > Orellia Matlock > Bobby J. Matlock Jr. > Phillip Matlock > Katrina Matlock > Patrica Matlock > Amy Matlock > If you can give me the middle names for the people listed above, the Bible > will be given to you. > Hope it finds its rightfull place among a loving family. > Darla Campbell > Clarksville, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > -.-Spam and virus filtered by modusMail using Norman virus engine.-.-

Hello everyone, Bible looking for FAMILY, about 10 yrs or so ago my parents bought a storage full of things from some man by last name of Landers that was from Paris, I found this bible back then in all that stuff & if any of these names look familar & you can prove this is your family, I will give you the bible. I've had it in my possessin all these years with the intention of giving it away. Wish I had a family bible that was as well worn & defintely used like this one was, page after page with handwritten notes on them. Names are : Bobby Matlock Orellia Matlock Bobby J. Matlock Jr. Phillip Matlock Katrina Matlock Patrica Matlock Amy Matlock If you can give me the middle names for the people listed above, the Bible will be given to you. Hope it finds its rightfull place among a loving family. Darla Campbell Clarksville, Tx

Thanks Jim for looking for the address. Pat Shelby Arlington,Tx Roberts,Shelby,Davis,Dycus

Paris News (Friday) Alpha Patterson Lewis, 101, of Detroit died April 6 2003. Born in Post Oak 1902 to John & Stella Johns Patterson. She married Paul D Lewis in 1917 in Post Oak. He died in 1984. She is survived by 4 children and their spouses, all of Detroit. I know nothing of this lady, but her age got my attention and respect. Post Oak is in northeast Lamar County. Maybe some of you know this family. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Hello all, Since the list has been pretty quiet here lately, I thought I would let everyone know of a website that I have come across. I was researching my Plumlee family in Parker Co., Tx and got a reply on a message from a lady named Ashley. She said she had some deeds for two Plumlee men in Parker Co. I emailed her and she produced the names and offered them to me if I wanted them. She was going to sell them to me for what she paid, which was the standard price from a courthouse, $15. These are originals also. She mentioned she had her own website and I should go check it out. I did and I think it is a wonderful site for researchers. She says it isn't finished yet, and she is still working on getting everything indexed. The site is http://www.surnameheirlooms.com/index.html Take a look and see what you can find. Read the section called Our History, her favorite memory is awesome. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx

Finally dug out a letter from Dale, It is Phoenix, Az Dale sent me a e-mail this Sunday morning saying "Dad died this morning". It guess it was too soon for any arrangement details and I have not heard back from Dale. I tried to find a obit on the internet, but no luck. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <ShelbyGopher@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Fw: Dad (Aubrey Roberts) > Jim, > Do you know what city the Roberts' lived in Arizona? I also wondered when he > would be buried? > Pat Shelby > In Arlington,Texas > Researching:Roberts,Shelby,Davis > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I guess maybe there are a lot of Cooper names out there. Two houses up the street in Clarksville from my home as a teen was Nowlin Cooper and his family. He had 3 or 4 sons and 3 daughters. Glenda Cooper was a class mate of mine and is in my class e-mail group. I can ask her if she know and of her family genealogy. Glenda works for NASA in Houston. The Coopers were the first people on Rose Hill (West College Ave) to get a T.V. Jim Giddens p.s. you will find I am a rambler, but I try to contain it to RR Co events, places & people, and memories of the county. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <MabryRJ@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Broomfield & Cooper > It was recommended to me that I use this list to seek help with research on > the Broomfield/Brumfield family of Red River Co. and Cooper family. I'm > hoping to find death & burial information for: > William Berry/Barry Broomfield/Brumfield b. TN or KY 1822 d. after 1880 > Caroline Broomfield b. 1830 d. between 1870 & 1880 > Found them on census of 1870--Wm. Broomfield, age 49, farmer, Clarksville, > Red River Co., pg. 90; with him Caroline, 40, Donley, 18, Emeline, 14, > Sallie, 12 (my ancestor-married Fielden Green Cooper), Lula, 7, and Lenora, > 5. On 1880 census, Red River Co., Precinct 8, p. 325B: Wm. Broomfield, 58, > widower, Lucinda, 18, Lennora, 13. Next household has Erazmus, 28, farmer, > wife Sarah, 28, William H., 3 and Mary C. 8 mos. b. Oct. F. G. & Sarah are in > Precinct 7 on the 1880 census and later moved to Ft. Worth, where they are > buried. I look forward to information and contacts in Red River Co. I live in > Tallahassee FL. Linda Mabry, mabryrj@aol.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Linda, A tidbit of info: I went to Clarksville High School with a Betty Broomfield. She was a sophomore when I was a senior in 1959. Seems I recall seeing her in recent years at some event in Clarksville. If you would like for me to see what I can find out about her family, I will. My area phone book shows 4 Broomfield homes. Bobby in Avery, Daniel & Ginger in Blossom, M.H. in Paris, and R.L. in RRCo., I see no Brumfield. Are your Mabry connections in RRCo. The freshman class had a Jo Lane Mabry. I have seen her twice in the past years. She and her husband live across the Red River in Ok. The sophomore class had a Donald Mabrey. The spelling is probably a typo because I think they are siblings. I see several Mabry names in the area phone book, one is Donald R Mabry of Clarksville. By the way, Welcome to you of Tallahassee, FL. I can not resist the memory of a fine song in my teen years, "My Tallahassee Lassie, Down in F.L.A". Can anyone tell me who sang that song. I can't pull it out, but it had a great beat. I know many of you are too young to remember the song. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <MabryRJ@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Broomfield & Cooper > It was recommended to me that I use this list to seek help with research on > the Broomfield/Brumfield family of Red River Co. and Cooper family. I'm > hoping to find death & burial information for: > William Berry/Barry Broomfield/Brumfield b. TN or KY 1822 d. after 1880 > Caroline Broomfield b. 1830 d. between 1870 & 1880 > Found them on census of 1870--Wm. Broomfield, age 49, farmer, Clarksville, > Red River Co., pg. 90; with him Caroline, 40, Donley, 18, Emeline, 14, > Sallie, 12 (my ancestor-married Fielden Green Cooper), Lula, 7, and Lenora, > 5. On 1880 census, Red River Co., Precinct 8, p. 325B: Wm. Broomfield, 58, > widower, Lucinda, 18, Lennora, 13. Next household has Erazmus, 28, farmer, > wife Sarah, 28, William H., 3 and Mary C. 8 mos. b. Oct. F. G. & Sarah are in > Precinct 7 on the 1880 census and later moved to Ft. Worth, where they are > buried. I look forward to information and contacts in Red River Co. I live in > Tallahassee FL. Linda Mabry, mabryrj@aol.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Nothing in Red River Recollections on the Broomfield or Brumfield families. There are lots of Cooper family members though and a few Cooper family articles. If you have some specific names, I can look them up. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "jhowison" <jhowison@1starnet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Broomfield & Cooper > There was an "Orus" Cooper household in Bogata during the 20th century, but > I don't see a connection with the Broomfields. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MabryRJ@aol.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:10 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Broomfield & Cooper > > > > It was recommended to me that I use this list to seek help with research > on > > the Broomfield/Brumfield family of Red River Co. and Cooper family. I'm > > hoping to find death & burial information for: > > William Berry/Barry Broomfield/Brumfield b. TN or KY 1822 d. after 1880 > > Caroline Broomfield b. 1830 d. between 1870 & 1880 > > Found them on census of 1870--Wm. Broomfield, age 49, farmer, Clarksville, > > Red River Co., pg. 90; with him Caroline, 40, Donley, 18, Emeline, 14, > > Sallie, 12 (my ancestor-married Fielden Green Cooper), Lula, 7, and > Lenora, > > 5. On 1880 census, Red River Co., Precinct 8, p. 325B: Wm. Broomfield, 58, > > widower, Lucinda, 18, Lennora, 13. Next household has Erazmus, 28, farmer, > > wife Sarah, 28, William H., 3 and Mary C. 8 mos. b. Oct. F. G. & Sarah are > in > > Precinct 7 on the 1880 census and later moved to Ft. Worth, where they are > > buried. I look forward to information and contacts in Red River Co. I live > in > > Tallahassee FL. Linda Mabry, mabryrj@aol.com > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

There was an "Orus" Cooper household in Bogata during the 20th century, but I don't see a connection with the Broomfields. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MabryRJ@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Broomfield & Cooper > It was recommended to me that I use this list to seek help with research on > the Broomfield/Brumfield family of Red River Co. and Cooper family. I'm > hoping to find death & burial information for: > William Berry/Barry Broomfield/Brumfield b. TN or KY 1822 d. after 1880 > Caroline Broomfield b. 1830 d. between 1870 & 1880 > Found them on census of 1870--Wm. Broomfield, age 49, farmer, Clarksville, > Red River Co., pg. 90; with him Caroline, 40, Donley, 18, Emeline, 14, > Sallie, 12 (my ancestor-married Fielden Green Cooper), Lula, 7, and Lenora, > 5. On 1880 census, Red River Co., Precinct 8, p. 325B: Wm. Broomfield, 58, > widower, Lucinda, 18, Lennora, 13. Next household has Erazmus, 28, farmer, > wife Sarah, 28, William H., 3 and Mary C. 8 mos. b. Oct. F. G. & Sarah are in > Precinct 7 on the 1880 census and later moved to Ft. Worth, where they are > buried. I look forward to information and contacts in Red River Co. I live in > Tallahassee FL. Linda Mabry, mabryrj@aol.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Linda, I will look up the names in Red River Recollections for you tonight, unless someone does it first. My question to you comes about the Cooper family. Do you know of a Mettie Cooper? My GGrandfather Isaac "Ike" J. Wallace married here in Hopkins Co. This was his second marriage. I haven't really looked to hard for her, but I would like to find out if they had any children. I can't find out anything on Issac J. Wallace. He left Red River County to find work after my ggrandmother Nora Love died. The three children were left with Samuel Walker Love, my gggrandfather in Bagwell. There was a Mettie Wallace buried in SE Red River Co., I believe. I just noticed it going through the Dales book at the Clarksville Library. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:10:54 EDT MabryRJ@aol.com wrote: >It was recommended to me that I use this list to seek >help with research on >the Broomfield/Brumfield family of Red River Co. and >Cooper family. I'm >hoping to find death & burial information for: >William Berry/Barry Broomfield/Brumfield b. TN or KY 1822 >d. after 1880 >Caroline Broomfield b. 1830 d. between 1870 & 1880 >Found them on census of 1870--Wm. Broomfield, age 49, >farmer, Clarksville, >Red River Co., pg. 90; with him Caroline, 40, Donley, 18, >Emeline, 14, >Sallie, 12 (my ancestor-married Fielden Green Cooper), >Lula, 7, and Lenora, >5. On 1880 census, Red River Co., Precinct 8, p. 325B: >Wm. Broomfield, 58, >widower, Lucinda, 18, Lennora, 13. Next household has >Erazmus, 28, farmer, >wife Sarah, 28, William H., 3 and Mary C. 8 mos. b. Oct. >F. G. & Sarah are in >Precinct 7 on the 1880 census and later moved to Ft. >Worth, where they are >buried. I look forward to information and contacts in Red >River Co. I live in >Tallahassee FL. Linda Mabry, mabryrj@aol.com > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

It was recommended to me that I use this list to seek help with research on the Broomfield/Brumfield family of Red River Co. and Cooper family. I'm hoping to find death & burial information for: William Berry/Barry Broomfield/Brumfield b. TN or KY 1822 d. after 1880 Caroline Broomfield b. 1830 d. between 1870 & 1880 Found them on census of 1870--Wm. Broomfield, age 49, farmer, Clarksville, Red River Co., pg. 90; with him Caroline, 40, Donley, 18, Emeline, 14, Sallie, 12 (my ancestor-married Fielden Green Cooper), Lula, 7, and Lenora, 5. On 1880 census, Red River Co., Precinct 8, p. 325B: Wm. Broomfield, 58, widower, Lucinda, 18, Lennora, 13. Next household has Erazmus, 28, farmer, wife Sarah, 28, William H., 3 and Mary C. 8 mos. b. Oct. F. G. & Sarah are in Precinct 7 on the 1880 census and later moved to Ft. Worth, where they are buried. I look forward to information and contacts in Red River Co. I live in Tallahassee FL. Linda Mabry, mabryrj@aol.com

Jim, Do you know what city the Roberts' lived in Arizona? I also wondered when he would be buried? Pat Shelby In Arlington,Texas Researching:Roberts,Shelby,Davis

Jim...I am so sorry....we had to go to the phone company and change the address again....for the last time we pray...it is now jbrodie@livingston.net the "j" is what is throwing everyone a loop...so sorry... try it ...thanks ...jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:03 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Jan Brodie > Jan, > I have tried the e-mail addy you sent me 3 times and I came back every time. > I am sending jazek41@livingston.net but it does not seem to work. Check it out please and let me know. I have already cleared out you old e-mail address. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jim G, Thanks for sharing. Your Dad will have another Buddie to enjoy. Tom Heath,TX >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Fw: Dad (Aubrey Roberts) >Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 13:52:23 -0500 > >I wanted to share this with my Red County Web-site family also. >Below is my message in regards to the e-mail below it. >Jim Giddens >Paris, Tx > > > >To Giddens Family: >(I got the e-mail below just this today.) >Just wanted to share it with you. Dale's father was Aubrey Roberts. A >dear and lifelong friend of Dad's since childhood at Hopewell. Dale and >his Dad have been living in Az for many years. Aubrey and Dad were also >in Colorado City, Tx together and rode together when visiting back home in >Red River Co back in the 1920s. I have letters and pictures Aubrey sent >to Dad over the years and heard Dad tell stories about him & Aubrey & >Aubrey's brother Grady many times. >Over the last 10 years at Regency I would help Dad call Aubrey on the >phone. Dale and I made e-mail contact about 5 years ago and would send >messages back and forth for Aubrey & Dad. >Dad would always grin and laugh when telling me the story of Grady falling >out a tree when they were all boys. >Aubrey & Dad were with in a few weeks of being the same age. > Dale (from his dad) always called my Dad "Cap" just as Vivian did >because of Abeline. I was shocked the first time Dale e-mailed me about >"Cap". I had never heard anyone call him Cap except Vivian. > By the way, I called Weldon and asked about Vivian (daughter of Uncle >Abeline) just a couple of weeks ago. She has been in the nursing home >there in Georgetown (Tx) for 7 years. > >Jim G >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dale Roberts >To: Jim Giddens >Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 12:37 PM >Subject: Dad > > >Jim, > >I'm sorry we haven't spoken in a while, the last time was when your dad >passed on I believe. Well, I thought you might like to know that my dad >died this morning. Like Cap, he died peacefully in his sleep. His body just >gave up the fight. > >I hope things are well with you and your family. I still hope to make a >trip to NE Texas to visit dad's beloved country. I will let you know >when/if that ever happens. > >Dale > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Paris News Clarksville, Ann Martin Minick, 62 died Apr 3, 2003 5 year battle with leukemia Graveside at Madras Cemetery Apr 5. born 1940 to Lillie Virginia Tidwell and William (Bill) Harmon Martin. brother James Britton (Britt) Martin sister Mary Frances Brannon. I don't know this lady but the family names and Madras are very common to this board. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. Tom, I feel this Brannon must be related to Jimmy Brannon buried at Madras. Do you know her.

Paris News Clarksville Kenneth W Haddock, 52 of English died Thursday April 3, 2003 in ETMC (hospital) Service in First Baptist Church of Annona Apr 5th. Burial in English Cemetery. Survivors: wife Amanda (Kay) Fiedler Haddock. son Brent Haddock of Annona daughter Mary Haddock of English parents Joe & Mary Lou Robinson Haddock of English. brother Joe Haddock of Avery. I remember well Ken and Kay Haddock that when to same church we did in Avery with their small children. Very nice young family, but I have not had any contact with them since leaving Avery in 1978. I was surprise at reading his obit in the News and I have no details of the reason of his death. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

I wanted to share this with my Red County Web-site family also. Below is my message in regards to the e-mail below it. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx To Giddens Family: (I got the e-mail below just this today.) Just wanted to share it with you. Dale's father was Aubrey Roberts. A dear and lifelong friend of Dad's since childhood at Hopewell. Dale and his Dad have been living in Az for many years. Aubrey and Dad were also in Colorado City, Tx together and rode together when visiting back home in Red River Co back in the 1920s. I have letters and pictures Aubrey sent to Dad over the years and heard Dad tell stories about him & Aubrey & Aubrey's brother Grady many times. Over the last 10 years at Regency I would help Dad call Aubrey on the phone. Dale and I made e-mail contact about 5 years ago and would send messages back and forth for Aubrey & Dad. Dad would always grin and laugh when telling me the story of Grady falling out a tree when they were all boys. Aubrey & Dad were with in a few weeks of being the same age. Dale (from his dad) always called my Dad "Cap" just as Vivian did because of Abeline. I was shocked the first time Dale e-mailed me about "Cap". I had never heard anyone call him Cap except Vivian. By the way, I called Weldon and asked about Vivian (daughter of Uncle Abeline) just a couple of weeks ago. She has been in the nursing home there in Georgetown (Tx) for 7 years. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Roberts To: Jim Giddens Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Dad Jim, I'm sorry we haven't spoken in a while, the last time was when your dad passed on I believe. Well, I thought you might like to know that my dad died this morning. Like Cap, he died peacefully in his sleep. His body just gave up the fight. I hope things are well with you and your family. I still hope to make a trip to NE Texas to visit dad's beloved country. I will let you know when/if that ever happens. Dale