Eddie, This is some great news. Always good to hear of another resource. A good source of books everyone can afford and keep an eye out for is the Half Price bookstores. I recently purchased old Texas Almanacs for $3 each. There are always old college directories, local history, etc. for a low price. This is the place that I have starting looking the most for books on family/location history. Maybe there are a few things there I can get and bring with me next trip I make up there. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:tempt@icx.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:29 PM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXREDRIV] Library Avery, Tx is in the process of setting up a library and History center. There has been overwhelming support for the history center. Residents of the city and surrounding area are bringing in their Family Bibles to copy the family section. They are bringing in old newspaper clippings, pictures and other things. Yesterday a building was donated to house it. (Jim I think it is your old Drug Store Bldg) Soon it will be a nice source of information to check out. They have about 30 boxes of books and material already donated. A computer has also been donated for it's use. They welcome any donation that would help the Library, History Center and Genealogy section for Avery and the surrounding area. I plan to send several boxes from my library that I haven't used in a several years. You might check out their site for progress in these interest. They also have been working on a Youth Center and it is in use now. We donated a Ping Pong table and accessories. They now are beating the bushes for heat for the building. I would guess they would welcome some Air Conditioning also. If any could help here I know it sure would be appreciated. Their web site is "cityofavery.com" Eddie Robinson Kingston, Tn. ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Allen, My grandmother was a Burns. The closest I get to Red River County though is Van Zandt and Cherokee counties. I am note sure though of alot of my Burns family past about 2 generations. I have had little time to spend on this line. I noticed some Burns burials in RR when I was last there and wondered if they are connected to me. I will gladly send you what I have if you would like to look it over. I can tell you my Burns family went PA>SC>TN>MS>TX. I am sure there are some holes in that though. Thanks, Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx -----Original Message----- From: Allen Lawrence [mailto:awl1957@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:50 PM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXREDRIV] Burns Family Hi list, I have written in the past looking for my great grand father Sam Patton Lawrence. He and my great grand mother married in RR county. I have more connections now in that county. Below you will see that Mary Campbell, my Great grandmother married again to Charles N. Burns. I am looking for anyone who knows anything about the family below. Much thanks for any help. Allen Lawrence WILLIAM B BURNS was born 1851 in TITUS COUNTY, and died 1913 in SIMMS,TX. He was the son of 2. ISAAC BURNS and 3. MARY ANN RIPLEY. He married SALLY BOOTH. She was born 1858/1859 in ILLINOIS, and died 1898/1899 in TEXAS. Children of WILLIAM B BURNS and SALLY BOOTH are: i. HENRY EUGENE BURNS was born 20 FEB 1880 in SULPHUR BLUFF,TEXAS, and died 10 MAR 1958 in RED RIVER COUNTY HOSPITAL,TX. He married MAY HENRY ANDERSON 4 DEC 1898 in MT. VERNON,FRANKLIN COUNTY,TEXAS, daughter of JOE ANDERSON and MARGARET SEYELES. She was born 20 DEC 1880 in PATTONVILLE,TX,LAMAR COUNTY, and died 20 OCT 1967 in BOGATA,RED RIVER Co. TEXAS. ii. Katie BURNS. iii. Willie BURNS. iv. Charles Nathaniel BURNS. He married Mary CAMBELL. v. Andrew Jackson BURNS. He married Annie ANDERSON. vi. John Dow BURNS was born 4 AUG 1894 in Delta County,Texas, and died 12 JUN 1950 in New Boston,Texas. He married Florence CAMBELL. vii. Lillie Mae BURNS. She married Charlie LAWRENCE. viii. Pearl Elizabeth BURNS. She married Henry JACKSON. ix. Cora Maude BURNS. She married Nelson. x. Carrie BURNS. She married John COVINGTON _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I have some information on the first son Henry Eugene and his family in my data base what info did you need? Sarah Ward Ragsdill Sulphur Springs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Lawrence" <awl1957@hotmail.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Burns Family > Hi list, > > I have written in the past looking for my great grand father Sam Patton > Lawrence. He and my great grand mother married in RR county. I have more > connections now in that county. Below you will see that Mary Campbell, my > Great grandmother married again to Charles N. Burns. I am looking for > anyone who knows anything about the family below. Much thanks for any help. > > Allen Lawrence > > > WILLIAM B BURNS was born 1851 in TITUS COUNTY, and died 1913 in SIMMS,TX. He > was the son of 2. ISAAC BURNS and 3. MARY ANN RIPLEY. He married SALLY > BOOTH. She was born 1858/1859 in ILLINOIS, and died 1898/1899 in TEXAS. > > Children of WILLIAM B BURNS and SALLY BOOTH are: i. HENRY EUGENE BURNS > was born 20 FEB 1880 in SULPHUR BLUFF,TEXAS, and died 10 MAR 1958 in RED > RIVER COUNTY HOSPITAL,TX. He married MAY HENRY ANDERSON 4 DEC 1898 in MT. > VERNON,FRANKLIN COUNTY,TEXAS, daughter of JOE ANDERSON and MARGARET SEYELES. > She was born 20 DEC 1880 in PATTONVILLE,TX,LAMAR COUNTY, and died 20 OCT > 1967 in BOGATA,RED RIVER Co. TEXAS. > ii. Katie BURNS. > iii. Willie BURNS. > iv. Charles Nathaniel BURNS. He married Mary CAMBELL. > v. Andrew Jackson BURNS. He married Annie ANDERSON. > vi. John Dow BURNS was born 4 AUG 1894 in Delta County,Texas, and died > 12 JUN 1950 in New Boston,Texas. He married Florence CAMBELL. > vii. Lillie Mae BURNS. She married Charlie LAWRENCE. > viii. Pearl Elizabeth BURNS. She married Henry JACKSON. > ix. Cora Maude BURNS. She married Nelson. > x. Carrie BURNS. She married John COVINGTON > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is one lake that does not need to be build

Hi list, I have written in the past looking for my great grand father Sam Patton Lawrence. He and my great grand mother married in RR county. I have more connections now in that county. Below you will see that Mary Campbell, my Great grandmother married again to Charles N. Burns. I am looking for anyone who knows anything about the family below. Much thanks for any help. Allen Lawrence WILLIAM B BURNS was born 1851 in TITUS COUNTY, and died 1913 in SIMMS,TX. He was the son of 2. ISAAC BURNS and 3. MARY ANN RIPLEY. He married SALLY BOOTH. She was born 1858/1859 in ILLINOIS, and died 1898/1899 in TEXAS. Children of WILLIAM B BURNS and SALLY BOOTH are: i. HENRY EUGENE BURNS was born 20 FEB 1880 in SULPHUR BLUFF,TEXAS, and died 10 MAR 1958 in RED RIVER COUNTY HOSPITAL,TX. He married MAY HENRY ANDERSON 4 DEC 1898 in MT. VERNON,FRANKLIN COUNTY,TEXAS, daughter of JOE ANDERSON and MARGARET SEYELES. She was born 20 DEC 1880 in PATTONVILLE,TX,LAMAR COUNTY, and died 20 OCT 1967 in BOGATA,RED RIVER Co. TEXAS. ii. Katie BURNS. iii. Willie BURNS. iv. Charles Nathaniel BURNS. He married Mary CAMBELL. v. Andrew Jackson BURNS. He married Annie ANDERSON. vi. John Dow BURNS was born 4 AUG 1894 in Delta County,Texas, and died 12 JUN 1950 in New Boston,Texas. He married Florence CAMBELL. vii. Lillie Mae BURNS. She married Charlie LAWRENCE. viii. Pearl Elizabeth BURNS. She married Henry JACKSON. ix. Cora Maude BURNS. She married Nelson. x. Carrie BURNS. She married John COVINGTON _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Avery, Tx is in the process of setting up a library and History center. There has been overwhelming support for the history center. Residents of the city and surrounding area are bringing in their Family Bibles to copy the family section. They are bringing in old newspaper clippings, pictures and other things. Yesterday a building was donated to house it. (Jim I think it is your old Drug Store Bldg) Soon it will be a nice source of information to check out. They have about 30 boxes of books and material already donated. A computer has also been donated for it's use. They welcome any donation that would help the Library, History Center and Genealogy section for Avery and the surrounding area. I plan to send several boxes from my library that I haven't used in a several years. You might check out their site for progress in these interest. They also have been working on a Youth Center and it is in use now. We donated a Ping Pong table and accessories. They now are beating the bushes for heat for the building. I would guess they would welcome some Air Conditioning also. If any could help here I know it sure would be appreciated. Their web site is "cityofavery.com" Eddie Robinson Kingston, Tn.

Freize & Nichols Engineering, big civil engineers in on the planning of the lake... >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Marvin C Nichols >Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:20:22 -0500 > >Not to debate the lake project. Just RRCo history. >I just ran across the man Marvin C Nichols connected with WW II. >Anyone want to jump in as to where he (or his son went) to high school. >Jim Giddens >Paris,Tx > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Since my families did not arrive in RR County until @ 1890 I would definitely be interested in the information. Wanda in Minco, OK

I'll buy four of them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Samples" <samples88@earthlink.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Another Possible Book > Well, someone else has asked our advise on a possible book about Red River County. > > Johnie Lee is considering doing a book on "Red River County in 1890". This is one of the areas that we have very little research material. He would like to put tax lists, probates, marriages, deaths, and anything he can come up with from that year with every name he can find. He would like some input on how much value that book would be to anyone. > > Anyone have any comments. > > Cynthia Samples > Paris, Texas > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jim, I read a little about him when I was looking over the lake issue. I always find it interesting to see why something is named after someone. Here is an article from the Handbook of Texas.... NICHOLS, MARVIN CURTIS (1896-1969). Marvin C. Nichols, engineer and authority on Texas water resources, son of Joseph Marvin and Cora (Curtis) Nichols, was born at Roanoke, Texas, on December 18, 1896. He attended Denton public schools, entered the University of Texas in 1914, and earned a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering in 1918. He was assistant county engineer of Caldwell and Rockwall counties from 1919 until becoming a graduate student at the University of Illinois in 1920. He earned a master of science degree in theoretical and applied mechanics in 1921 and moved to Amarillo, where he was assistant city engineer from 1922 to 1926 and acting city engineer in 1926-27. Nichols supervised extensive municipal improvements, including an enlarged water-well system. In 1927 he joined the consulting-engineering firm of John B. Hawley and Simon W. Freeseqqv of Fort Worth. He became a partner in 1928, and the firm's name was changed to Hawley, Freese, and Nichols in 1930. As the firm's primary consultant to Tarrant County Water Control and Improvement District No. 1, Nichols supervised construction of Lake Bridgeport (1931) and Eagle Mountain Reservoirqqv (1932), the first large dual-purpose reservoirs in the United States to provide separate reservoir capacities for flood control and water supply. In 1933 Nichols was appointed Texas representative of the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey. In 1935 he was named chairman of the Texas Planning Board.qv He participated with his firm in the engineering design of twenty-one military and war production facilities in Texas during World War II,qv including camps Hulen, Barkeley, Swift, and Fanninqqv and a prisoner-of-war camp at Hereford. Nichols was responsible for design and construction supervision of the Pantex Army Ordnance Plant (see PANTEX, TEXAS) at Amarillo from 1942 to 1945 and helped oversee his firm's war jobs in Florida, Mississippi, and Louisiana. In 1950 the General Services Administration appointed him chairman of a committee to reactivate government-owned magnesium plants in the United States and a nickel plant in Cuba. Nichols's major concern as a professional engineer was the conception, engineering design, and construction supervision of difficult water-supply systems for cities and towns in the semiarid section of West Texas, from Fort Worth to New Mexico. As a member of the Texas Water Resources Committee beginning in 1953, he was instrumental in developing a long-range water policy for the state. He was appointed first chairman of the Texas Water Development Boardqv in 1957 and served until 1963. He influenced the concepts and specific elements of the Texas Water Plan of 1968, which proposed construction of sixty-seven dams and reservoirs and redistribution of surplus East Texas water to the drier west. Nichols was the main planner of the proposed "Trans-Texas Canal," which was to convey surplus water from northeast Texas to the Panhandle, Trans-Pecos,qqv and South Plains areas. Nichols was president of the Texas Society of Professional Engineers in 1951 and was named Engineer of the Year by the Fort Worth chapter. In 1953 he was nominated by Secretary of the Interior Douglas McKay for federal commissioner of the United States Bureau of Reclamation, but Nichols withdrew his name from consideration. He was elected president of the Fort Worth Chamber of Commerce in 1955. He received the Award of Honor from the Texas Section, American Society of Civil Engineers, in 1964. He was active with the Fort Worth Panther Boys Club for forty-two years as a director, officer, and committee member. He received the Boys Clubs of America's American Bronze Keystone Award in 1948, the Service Bar with three silver stars in 1957, and a second Keystone Award in 1965. He supported the expansion of Arlington State College from a two-year to a four-year institution in 1959 and played a role in the establishment of a graduate program in 1966. The Texas Water Conservation Association awarded him its 1968 Leadership Award for "outstanding leadership, magnificent accomplishments and unselfish service to Texas and to the nation in water resources development." Nichols was a lifelong Methodist and a states'-rights Democrat. On May 3, 1919, he married Ethel Daveneille Nichols of Greenville. The couple had two sons. Nichols died at M. D. Anderson Hospital and Tumor Institute in Houston on April 10, 1969. An honorary doctor of humanities degree was conferred on him posthumously by Texas Wesleyan College in June 1969. The Texas legislature approved a resolution to name a proposed dam and reservoir on the Sulphur River the Marvin C. Nichols Dam and Reservoir. Under the amended Texas Water Plan of 1984, Nichols Reservoir remained a potential project for future water supply in North and Northeast Texas. BIBLIOGRAPHY: Fort Worth Star-Telegram, March 19, April 10, 11, 13, 1969. Simon W. Freese and D. L. Sizemore, A Century in the Works: Freese and Nichols Consulting Engineers, 1894-1994 (College Station: Texas A&M University Press, 1994). Deborah Lightfoot Sizemore Hope this helps... Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:20:22 -0500 "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> wrote: >Not to debate the lake project. Just RRCo history. >I just ran across the man Marvin C Nichols connected with > WW II. >Anyone want to jump in as to where he (or his son went) >to high school. >Jim Giddens >Paris,Tx > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jim as our library is still in boxes my book on those who served in WW-II from RRCo is out of pocket. Can you give me information on Marvin C Nichols Thanks Eddie At 12:20 AM 6/4/03 -0500, you wrote: >Not to debate the lake project. Just RRCo history. >I just ran across the man Marvin C Nichols connected with WW II. >Anyone want to jump in as to where he (or his son went) to high school. >Jim Giddens >Paris,Tx > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Not to debate the lake project. Just RRCo history. I just ran across the man Marvin C Nichols connected with WW II. Anyone want to jump in as to where he (or his son went) to high school. Jim Giddens Paris,Tx

I, for one, would love a book that covered the 1890s. So many of those who migrated from the 1850s on fall off the face of the earth after 1880. Charmaine Riley Holley archivehobbit@mac.com "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings

On Tuesday, Jun 3, 2003, at 22:03 US/Eastern, acherry2@houston.rr.com wrote: > Hi Charmaine > > This is all that we could find on our CD. > Only one after 1880. > Thanks a bunch:) No Penelope, but there were several of her children and one that I did not have - so again, thanks. Charmaine Charmaine Riley Holley archivehobbit@mac.com "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings

I had family in Madras/Clarksville in the 1890's and would like to have a book covering that period. However, I would prefer the 1890's and not just the year 1890. Diane Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Samples" <samples88@earthlink.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Another Possible Book > Well, someone else has asked our advise on a possible book about Red River County. > > Johnie Lee is considering doing a book on "Red River County in 1890". This is one of the areas that we have very little research material. He would like to put tax lists, probates, marriages, deaths, and anything he can come up with from that year with every name he can find. He would like some input on how much value that book would be to anyone. > > Anyone have any comments. > > Cynthia Samples > Paris, Texas > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Well, someone else has asked our advise on a possible book about Red River County. Johnie Lee is considering doing a book on "Red River County in 1890". This is one of the areas that we have very little research material. He would like to put tax lists, probates, marriages, deaths, and anything he can come up with from that year with every name he can find. He would like some input on how much value that book would be to anyone. Anyone have any comments. Cynthia Samples Paris, Texas

Hi Charmaine This is all that we could find on our CD. Only one after 1880. Hope that some may be of help. Marriage Index: AR, MS, MO, TX, 1766-1981 Red River Co. Texas M600 s: MORRIS, Charles S STILES, H 08 Nov 1880 M600 s: MORRIS, Dempsy PERRY, Martha E 07 Apr 1861 M600 s: MORRIS, Fayette SMITH, Bettie 05 Jul 1877 M600 s: MORRIS, Helen L THOMAS, James A 03 Dec 1876 M600 s: MORRIS, J J CAROLTON, Parthena J 09 Feb 1878 M600 s: MORRIS, Lafayett WAUDLE, Mary 17 Jan 1881 M600 s: MORRIS, M C FENTON, J W 08 May 1873 M600 s: MORRIS, Manda MCCULLOCH, Andy 27 Feb 1878 M600 s: MORRIS, Mary P RICHARDSON, W S 13 Nov 1878 M600 s: MORRIS, Scott OLIVER, Delia 01 Jan 1871 Don & Annette Cherry Baytown, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charmaine Riley Holley" <archivehobbit@mac.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Red River Marriages > Would there be someone out there who could check for a marriage in the > Red River Co. are anytime after 1880 for Penelope E. COLLIER MORRIS? > She was only 47 as a widow in 1880 and I am sure she must have > remarried. > Thanks for any help:) > > Charmaine > > > Charmaine Riley Holley > archivehobbit@mac.com > > "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." > - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Would there be someone out there who could check for a marriage in the Red River Co. are anytime after 1880 for Penelope E. COLLIER MORRIS? She was only 47 as a widow in 1880 and I am sure she must have remarried. Thanks for any help:) Charmaine Charmaine Riley Holley archivehobbit@mac.com "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings

I would be very interested in purchasing a copy of this book if published. Donna House -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia Samples [mailto:samples88@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:00 PM To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXREDRIV] Possible Bogata Obit Book I was asked to deliver the following message from Lawrence and Sue Dale, who continue to transcribe obits and publish books. If you would be interested in the book they mention, please get in touch with them or get in touch with me and I will forward the information. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Sue JUST finished up the Bogata newspapers for 1944 and 1945, this gives 1944 through 1957 for Bogata, all the miscellaneous newspaper OBITS on the 2 reels of film sent in last year and the reel of film just purchased for The Standard of 1861 thru 1876 --- only 17 OBITS here in The Standard Believe that we can put together another book the size of the Detroit and Deport OBITS books and keep pricing the same or it may be a little smaller, (ie, around $20 plus tax of 1.35 and shipping of $5) --- won't know until we actually do the book and it will take some doing due to the several sources involved Question Is this wanted? --- or do people want to wait until the RED book comes out in about May 2005? ______________________________

I was looking at the War Dead from Red River County on the web-site. It is taken from the monument of the courthouse lawn and that is great. It list George and Harold Fryar dying in WW II. They are brothers. However Harold died in the Korean War. The monument has it wrong. Another brother, Harvey Fryar is in Regency Nursing Home and I visited with him often before my dad died. They were all from the Hopewell/Dimple area. I remember as a boy going to the funeral of Harold Fryar at Tuggle Springs Cemetery and the 21 gun salute. Harold was killed in what may have been the first major battle of the Korean War. Harold says their unit had their training cut short and they were rushed into combat and were over run by mass numbers. The family did not know any details for a few years. My mothers sister married Lewis Fryar and we went to the funeral with her. I think Lewis must have been the fourth brother. I remember Lewis leading music at the Hopewell Church where my Grandpa Watson was preaching when I was a boy. Lewis died at a early age also of a heart attack around 1954. I forget the exact year. Lewis Fryar's wife Inez did alterations in Marx Dry Good Store for years. I went to high school in Clarksville with two of their children (my cousins), Glen & Carolyn Fryar after they transferred from Dimple. I still have a picture of Glen from Dimple when he was in about the 3 grade. Also George died of a accident received while in training in 1941. I guess that is why the picture of him in the RR Co. WW II book shows him in civilian clothes. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx