Hello, My youngest son, Cory, is adopted. In Colorado, an adopted child is, also, given the same rights as birth children. They are given revised birth certificates with the adoptive parents listed as THE parents. Several years ago, I helped my son find his birth parents. In my FTM, Cory is listed as our son AND a descendent of all of my husband's and my ancestors - just like our other two children. Additionally, I have included what I know (and am learning) about the ancestry of his birth parents.I think that it is good to give as broad of picture of his roots as possible as all of those who went before - from his birth family and adoptive family - helped to create what he is today. Just my thoughts on the subject of adoption. Phyllis in Colorado

Beverly, Jim Edd Monkhouse married a first cousin of mine, Billie Frances Fryar (her mother was a Watson) I am not sure if it was Jim Edd's first marriage or not. They later divorced. I visited Jim Edd many time in Regency Nursing Home before my dad died this past Oct. I have a love for visiting anyone with a connection to Hopewell. I showed Jim Edd a picture I had of Billie Frances on a pretty white horse. He said he gave the horse to her and she loved the horse more than him (with a grin). Billie' father was the Lewis Fryar I mentioned recently that lead music at the Hopewell Church when I was a boy. Monkhouse is one of many very old name of Red River County. John Monkhouse was a man of importance that came from England, returned, and came back. Billie and her mother go to Hopewell Church, but Inez (the mother) is finding it hard to got recently because of health. The J.B. is the initials my dad wrote in his notes, he may have meant J.R. Mowery, but seems I recall a J.B. also that I will search for again. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <BevPresson@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Mathias Mowery rambling. > > Jim: > The J.R. Mowery buried at Concord Cemetery is James "Richard" Mowery, son of > Mathias. Richard married my g. grandfather's sister Susan Thoms 3-31-1868, > after the death of Richard in 1881 Susie married Robert Monkhouse. Frances one > of the daughter's of Richard and Susie Mowery, married Charley "Bud" Monkhouse > who is the father of Jim Edd Monkhouse, confusing yes but maybe this puts > together some connection with Hopewell. > Beverly Presson > Bakersfield, CA > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks to all who replied to my query on my upcoming trip to Red River County next week. You were all so helpful. I have one day to do my research there and your suggestions have been a great help!!!! Thanks so much!!! Donna Merrill

I have found two more connections to this Burns family. You will see that Charles Lawrence married Lillie Burns and Florence Campbell married John Dow burns. Charles Lawrence is my great uncle and the son of Mary Campbell by her 1st marriage to Samuel Patton Lawrence and 1st cousin to Florence Campbell who is the daughter of Bluford Campbell (Mary Campbells brother) and Mary's neice. This could get confusing to their children. Charlie Burns and Mary Idella Campbell Lawrence Craine Burns had three children, Norral, Monroe and Dovie, These three are my 1/2 great uncles and aunt. Allen 1 Descendants of William B. Burns Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM B.1 BURNS was born 1851 in Titus County, and died 1913 in Simms, Bowie County, Texas, USA. He married SALLY BOOTH. She was born Bet. 1858 - 1859 in Illinois, and died Bet. 1898 - 1899 in Texas. Children of WILLIAM BURNS and SALLY BOOTH are: 2. i. CHARLIE NATHANIEL2 BURNS, b. January 15, 1881; d. February 28, 1959, New Boston, Bowie County, Texas. 3. ii. LILLIE MAE BURNS, b. April 27, 1896; d. February 23, 1975, Horatio, Sevier, Arkansas; Stepchild. iii. JOHN DOW BURNS, b. August 04, 1894, Delta County, Texas; d. June 12, 1950, New Boston, Bowie County, Texas; m. FLORENCE CAMPBELL, September 22, 1912; b. August 1893. More About FLORENCE CAMPBELL: Record Change: July 12, 2001 More About JOHN BURNS and FLORENCE CAMPBELL: Marriage: September 22, 1912 Generation No. 2 2. CHARLIE NATHANIEL2 BURNS (WILLIAM B.1) was born January 15, 1881, and died February 28, 1959 in New Boston, Bowie County, Texas. He married MARY IDELLA CAMPBELL March 17, 1905 in Franklin County Texas, daughter of ELON CAMPBELL and MARY SRICKLAND. She was born February 13, 1871 in Desoto Parish, LA, and died November 23, 1958 in New Boston, Texas. Notes for CHARLIE NATHANIEL BURNS: 1910 Bowie county Census TEXAS ED 12 Prcinct 2 page 15b and finish on 16A 295/299 Burns Charley N. Head MW 27 Married 1 time 5years TX TX IL Della wife F W 37 married 2 times 5 years 6 children 4 living Norral N. Son MW 4 TX TX LA Eddie M son MW 1 8/12 TX TX LA Lawrence Charlie E Step son m w 15 TX GA LA Walter A. Stepson m w 13 TX GA LA More About CHARLIE NATHANIEL BURNS: Burial: Sandhill cemetary, Simms, Texas Record Change: July 12, 2001 Notes for MARY IDELLA CAMPBELL: 1880 Census, Jackson County, AR, Jefferson Township, ED.136, Supv. Dist. 1, 3 June 1880, hh 26/26: Mary Campbell, w,f,50, farming, LA. KY, KY Victoria Spear, w,f,21, daughter, work on farm, LA, MS, LA Bluford Campbell, w, m, 12 son, work on farm, LA, MS, LA James Campbell, w, m 10, son, at home, LA, MS, LA Idilla (Idella) w,f,8, daughter, at home, LA, MS, LA Charles Campbell, w, m, 6, son LA, MS, LA Eudora Spear, w,f, 1, grand daughter, AR, GA, LA 1900 Census Hopkins County, TX 1 June 1900, JP #2, ED# 50, SD #1, hh 8/9: I D Lawrence, head, w, f, Feb 1871, 29, widow, 3 children 3 living, LA, 2 - , LA Charly, son, w, m, Mar 1895, 5, single, TX, GA, LA W.A., son, w, m, May 1897, 3, TX, GA, LA Vick, dau, w, f, Feb 1900, 3/12, single, TX, GA, LA 1910 Bowie county Census TEXAS ED 12 Prcinct 2 page 15b and finish on 16A 295/299 Burns Charley N. Head MW 27 Married 1 time 5years TX TX IL Della wife F W 37 married 2 times 5 years 6 children 4 living Norral N. Son MW 4 TX TX LA Eddie M son MW 1 8/12 TX TX LA Lawrence Charlie E Step son m w 15 TX GA LA Walter A. Stepson m w 13 TX GA LA More About MARY IDELLA CAMPBELL: Burial: Sand Hill Cemetery, Simms, Bowie Co, TX Record Change: July 12, 2001 More About CHARLIE BURNS and MARY CAMPBELL: Marriage: March 17, 1905, Franklin County Texas Children of CHARLIE BURNS and MARY CAMPBELL are: i. NORRAL N.3 BURNS. ii. EDDIE M. BURNS. iii. DOVIE BURNS. 3. LILLIE MAE2 BURNS (WILLIAM B.1) was born April 27, 1896, and died February 23, 1975 in Horatio, Sevier, Arkansas. She married CHARLIE ELON LAWRENCE March 09, 1913, son of SAM LAWRENCE and MARY CAMPBELL. He was born March 28, 1895 in Detroit, texas, and died June 27, 1974 in Horatio, Sevier Co., Ar. More About LILLIE MAE BURNS: Burial: Horatio, Sevier Co., Ar Notes for CHARLIE ELON LAWRENCE: Bowie Co. 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As of March 2000, Birth Indexes from 1926-1995 and Death 3 Indexes from 1964-1998 are available on the Internet, microfiche or CD-ROM. http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/registra/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Last Name First Name Middle Name Suffix Date Sex County Mother Father LAWRENCE DELLA MAY 12-28-1936 f BOWIE LILLIE MAY BURNS CHARLIE ELON LAWRENCE LAWRENCE ELLA FAY 12-28-1936 f BOWIE LILLIE MAY BURNS CHARLIE ELON LAWRENCE 1930 U. S. Census Texas Bowie County Precinct 2 District 18 image 2 @ Ancestry.com 22/22 Lawrence Chas E. head m w 35 TX GA LA Lawrence Lillie wife f w 33 m 17years TX TX TX Ennis son m w 15 s TX TX TX Leona daug f w 10 s TX TX TX Loyd son m w 6 s TX TX TX More About CHARLIE ELON LAWRENCE: Burial: Horatio, Sevier Co., Ar More About CHARLIE LAWRENCE and LILLIE BURNS: Marriage: March 09, 1913 Children of LILLIE BURNS and CHARLIE LAWRENCE are: 4. i. ENNIS ALVIN3 LAWRENCE, b. September 12, 1914, New Boston, Bowie County, Texas; d. March 06, 1996, Horatio, Sevier, Arkansas. ii. LEONA LAWRENCE, b. August 27, 1919; d. October 01, 1992, Waskom, Harrison County, TX; m. HOWARD COLLINS; b. November 21, 1912; d. October 1984, Waskom, Harrison County, TX. Notes for LEONA LAWRENCE: Social Security Death Index Leona V. Collins ssn: 258-24-3985 Residence: 75692 Waskom, Harrison, TX Born 27 Aug. 1919 Last benefit: Died 1 oct 1992 Issued GA (before195) Notes for HOWARD COLLINS: Social Security Death Index Howard Collins SSN: 460-07-9501 Residence: 75692 Waskom, Harrison, TX Born 21 Nov. 1912 Last Benefit: Died Oct 1984 Issued: Ar (before 195) iii. LOYD LAWRENCE, b. 1924; d. December 21, 1971, New York. Notes for LOYD LAWRENCE: U.S. Census > 1930 U.S. Federal Census > Texas > Bowie > Precinct 2 > District 18 More About LOYD LAWRENCE: Burial: New Jersey iv. MANDY LAWRENCE, b. Bet. 1925 - 1936; d. Bet. 1925 - 1936. v. DELLA MAY LAWRENCE, b. December 28, 1936, Texarkana, Bowie County Texas (Formerly part of Miller County Arkansas; d. August 28, 1950, Talyor Arkansas. 4 Notes for DELLA MAY LAWRENCE: Source of Burial, Webster Parish Cemetaries List. Springhill, LA More About DELLA MAY LAWRENCE: Burial: Springhill, Webster Parish, Louisiana 5. vi. ELLA FAY LAWRENCE, b. December 28, 1936, Texarkana, Bowie County Texas (Formerly part of Miller County Arkansas. Generation No. 3 4. ENNIS ALVIN3 LAWRENCE (LILLIE MAE2 BURNS, WILLIAM B.1) was born September 12, 1914 in New Boston, Bowie County, Texas, and died March 06, 1996 in Horatio, Sevier, Arkansas. He married MYRTLE LEONA LINCOLN. She was born June 26, 1916 in Bowie County Texas (Formerly part of Miller County Arkansas, and died April 07, 2003 in Texarkana, Texas. More About ENNIS ALVIN LAWRENCE: Burial: Horatio, Sevier Co., Ar Notes for MYRTLE LEONA LINCOLN: MYRTLE LAWRENCE De QUEEN, Ark.-Myrtle Leona Lincoln Lawrence, 86, of Horatio, Ark., died Monday, April 7, 2003, in a Texarkana hospital. Mrs. Lawrence was born June 26, 1916, in Bowie County, Texas. She was a homemaker and a member of Horatio Assembly of God Church. She was preceded in death by her husband, E.A. Lawrence. Survivors include one son and daughter-in-law, Alvin and Lola Lawrence of Horatio; one granddaughter, Kim Lawrence of Horatio; one great-grandson, Scott Hannigan of Horatio; and a number of nieces and nephews. Services will be 10 a.m. today at Horatio Assembly of God Church with the Rev. J.L. Walker officiating. Burial will be in Horatio Cemetery under direction of Chandler Funeral Home. More About MYRTLE LEONA LINCOLN: Burial: Horatio, Sevier Co., Ar Child of ENNIS LAWRENCE and MYRTLE LINCOLN is: 6. i. ALVIN4 LAWRENCE. 5. ELLA FAY3 LAWRENCE (LILLIE MAE2 BURNS, WILLIAM B.1) was born December 28, 1936 in Texarkana, Bowie County Texas (Formerly part of Miller County Arkansas. She married (1) JOSEPH OSEAR HOOD. He was born in Plain Dealing, Bossier Parish, Louisiana. She married (2) PETTIGREW WALTER ALTON March 01, 1971. More About PETTIGREW ALTON and ELLA LAWRENCE: Marriage: March 01, 1971 Children of ELLA LAWRENCE and JOSEPH HOOD are: i. BRENDA4 HOOD. ii. BETTY ANN HOOD, m. (1) GRIGGS; m. (2) WAYNE WINFRED PETTIGREW; b. June 01, 1941. 5 Generation No. 4 6. ALVIN4 LAWRENCE (ENNIS ALVIN3, LILLIE MAE2 BURNS, WILLIAM B.1) He married LOLA. Child of ALVIN LAWRENCE and LOLA is: 7. i. KIM5 LAWRENCE. Generation No. 5 7. KIM5 LAWRENCE (ALVIN4, ENNIS ALVIN3, LILLIE MAE2 BURNS, WILLIAM B.1) Child of KIM LAWRENCE is: i. SCOTT6 HANNIGAN. Allen Lawrence wrote: I have written in the past looking for my great grand father Sam Patton Lawrence. He and my great grand mother married in RR county. I have more connections now in that county. Below you will see that Mary Campbell, my Great grandmother married again to Charles N. Burns. I am looking for anyone who knows anything about the family below. Much thanks for any help. Allen Lawrence WILLIAM B BURNS was born 1851 in TITUS COUNTY, and died 1913 in SIMMS,TX. He was the son of 2. ISAAC BURNS and 3. MARY ANN RIPLEY. He married SALLY BOOTH. She was born 1858/1859 in ILLINOIS, and died 1898/1899 in TEXAS. Children of WILLIAM B BURNS and SALLY BOOTH are: i. HENRY EUGENE BURNS was born 20 FEB 1880 in SULPHUR BLUFF,TEXAS, and died 10 MAR 1958 in RED RIVER COUNTY HOSPITAL,TX. He married MAY HENRY ANDERSON 4 DEC 1898 in MT. VERNON,FRANKLIN COUNTY,TEXAS, daughter of JOE ANDERSON and MARGARET SEYELES. She was born 20 DEC 1880 in PATTONVILLE,TX,LAMAR COUNTY, and died 20 OCT 1967 in BOGATA,RED RIVER Co. TEXAS. ii. Katie BURNS. iii. Willie BURNS. iv. Charles Nathaniel BURNS. He married Mary CAMBELL. v. Andrew Jackson BURNS. He married Annie ANDERSON. vi. John Dow BURNS was born 4 AUG 1894 in Delta County,Texas, and died 12 JUN 1950 in New Boston,Texas. He married Florence CAMBELL. vii. Lillie Mae BURNS. She married Charlie LAWRENCE. viii. Pearl Elizabeth BURNS. She married Henry JACKSON. ix. Cora Maude BURNS. She married Nelson. x. Carrie BURNS. 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Hi List, I have not ignored any ones reply, my mouse bit the dust and it's been hard using the computer with out one. Here is more on the Burns family that I have gathered from a Burns relative. I am interested in sharing more if anyone wants. I have a picture of Sally Booth who married William B. Burns. Allen awl1957@hotmail.com awl1957@yahoo.com for bigger files! Ahnentafel Chart for EDGAR HENRY BURNS First Generation 1. EDGAR HENRY BURNS was born[1] 24 Mar 1911 in CUNNINGHAM, LAMAR COUNTY. He died 22 Dec 1986 in LONE STAR COMMUNITY, RED RIVER COUNTY and was buried in BOGATA CEMETERY, RED RIVER COUNTY. NOTES: CEMETERY RECORDS FOR RED RIVER COUNTY, BY:LAWRENCE AND SUE DALE BURNS, EDGAR HENRY, B: 24 MAR 1911, D: 22 DEC 1986, CEM: BOGATA, LOC: SEC 8, WED:5 NOV 1935, NOTES: SSW KATHLEEN, OUR CHILDREN: DURA, RACHEL, MARY ANN, JO AND DONALD, OBIT: TCT 31 DEC 1986 HAS BIRTH IN CUNNINGHAM, TX, A SON OF HENRY EUGENE AND MAY ANDERSON BURNS, MARRIED KATHLEEN ABERNATHY IN RRCO TX, DIED IN LONE STAR COMMUNITY AT HIS HOME, WOOD FUNERAL HOME RECORDS BOOK 7 PAGE 292: EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, RESIDENT OF BOGATA EDGAR married[2] KATHLEEN ABERNATHY, daughter of CHARLES JULIAN ABERNATHY and FLOITA RACHEL PHILLIPS "LOLA", on 5 Nov 1935 in GLENDALE-MCCURY, TX RED RIVER COUNTY. KATHLEEN was born[3] 13 Jul 1919 in CLARKSVILLE, RED RIVER COUNTY. She died 2 Sep 1987 in MT. PLEASANT, TX TITUS COUNTY from CARDIOVASCULAR COLLAPSE and was buried 4 Sep 1987 in BOGATA CEMETERY, RED RIVER COUNTY. -------------------------------------------------- Sources 1. DELAYED CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. 2. MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE. 3. DELAYED CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH, 236436. Second Generation 2. HENRY EUGENE BURNS was born 20 Feb 1880 in SULPHUR BLUFF, TEXAS. He died 10 Mar 1958 in RED RIVER COUNTY HOSPITAL, TX and was buried in HIGHLAND CEMETERY, DEPORT, LAMAR COUNTY. HENRY married MAY HENRY ANDERSON on 4 Dec 1898 in MT. VERNON, FRANKLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. CENSUS: 1880 HOPKINS COUNTY CENSUS-VILLAGE OF SULPHUR BLUFF WILLIAM BURNS AGE 24 SARAH WIFE AGE 21 HENRY CHILD AGE 3/12 NOTES: *CEMETERY RECORDS FOR RED RIVER COUNTY, BY: LAWRENCE AND SUE DALE BURNS, HENRY EUGENE, B: 20 FEB 1880, D: 10 MAR 1958, CEM: LAMAR COUNTY, NOTES: DRI# 17960, OBIT: TCT 14 MAR 1958 HAS BIRTH IN SULPHUR BLUFF, TX, MARRIED MAY ANDERSON, DEATH IN RRCO TX HOSPITAL WITH BURIAL IN HIGHLAND CEMETERY IN DEPORT, WOOD FUNERAL HOME RECORDS BOOK 3 PAGE 108, A SON OF BILL AND SALLIE BOOTH BURNS, RESIDENT OF BOGATA 3. MAY HENRY ANDERSON "MAE" was born 20 Dec 1880 in PATTONVILLE, TX, LAMAR COUNTY. She died 20 Oct 1967 in BOGATA, RED RIVER Co. TEXAS and was buried in HIGHLAND CEMETERY, DEPORT. NOTES: *CEMETERY RECORDS FOR RED RIVER COUNTY, BY:LAWRENCE AND SUE DALE BURNS, MAY H., B: 20 DEC 1880, D: 20 OCT 1967, CEM: LAMAR COUNTY, NOTES: DRI# 68102, OBIT: TCT 26 OCT 1967 HAS BIRTH IN PATTONVILLE, TX, A DAUGHTER OF JOE AND MARGARET SEYELES ANDERSON, MARRIED HENRY BURNS ON 4 DEC 1898 IN MT.VERNON, TX, DIED IN BOGATA WITH BURIAL IN HIGHLAND CEMETERY IN DEPORT, TX Third Generation 4. WILLIAM B BURNS was born 1851 in TITUS COUNTY. He died 1913 in SIMMS, TX. WILLIAM married SALLY BOOTH. CENSUS: 1880 HOPKINS COUNTY CENSUS-VILLAGE OF SULPHUR BLUFF WILLIAM BURNS AGE 24 SARAH WIFE AGE 21 HENRY CHILD AGE 3/12 5. SALLY BOOTH "SARAH" was born 1858/1859 in ILLINOIS. She died 1898/1899 in TEXAS. CENSUS: 1880 HOPKINS COUNTY CENSUS-VILLAGE OF SULPHUR BLUFF WILLIAM BURNS AGE 24 SARAH WIFE AGE 21 HENRY CHILD AGE 3/12 6. JOE ANDERSON married MARGARET SEYELES. 7. MARGARET SEYELES. Fourth Generation 8. ISAAC BURNS was born 1820 in SOUTH CAROLINA. He married MARY ANN RIPLEY on 1854 in TITUS COUNTY. CENSUS: 1850 TITUS COUNTY CENSUS ISAAC BURNS MARY ANN JOHN AMBROSE SARAH JANE 9. MARY ANN RIPLEY "POLLY" was born 1823 in ALABAMA. CENSUS: 1850 TITUS CO CENSUS ISAA BURNS MARY ANN JOHN AMBROSE SARAH JANE CENSUS: 1854 SCHOLASTIC CENSUS TITUS COUNTY POLLY BURNS JOHN AMBROSE BURNS CENSUS: 1860 TITUS COUNTY CENSUS-GRAY ROCK AREA JAMES CLARY MARY ANN JOHN SARAH WILLIAM BURNS MARY M CLARY Fifth Generation 18. AMBROSE RIPLEY was born 1800 in NORTH CAROLINA OR TENNESSEE. He married RACHEL WOOD on 28 Sep 1820 in MADISON COUNTY, ALABAMA. CENSUS: 1850 TITUS COUNTY CENSUS IS SAID TO LIST AMBROSE RIPLEY AGE 48 BORN NC NOTES: AMBROSE AND RACHEL TRAVELED TO TEXAS IN 1837. THEY SETTLED IN EAST TEXAS IN THEN RED RIVER COUNTY. AMBROSE WAS A FARMER AND A CHAIN MAN FOR ALLEN URGUHART, A SURVEYOR. NOTES: ON SEPT. 6, 1839 RIPLEY WAS GRANTED A SECOND CLASS OR CONDITIONAL CERTIFICATE FOR 640 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED NORTH OF HIS HOME. FIELD NOTES DATE SEPT. 11, 1839 BY W.J. HAMILTON GIVES METES AND BOUND OF THE PROPERTY GRANTED IN CERTIFICATE. NOTES: ON NOV. 20, 1848 THE TITUS COUNTY BOARD OF LAND COMMISSIONERS GRANTED RIPLEY AN UNCONDITIONAL LAND CERTIFICATE FOR 640 ACRES. NOTES: FOLLOWING THE TRAGIC LOSS OF HIS WIFE AND FAMILY, RIPLEY REMAINED ON THE LAND AND REMARRIED. THIS TIME TO A WOMAN NAMED ROSANNA BROWN LANE, A WIDOW. THEY WERE MARRIED BETWEEN 1843 AND 1845. THEY HAD THREE CHILDREN: EMILY CAROLINE 1845-1900, JOHN H 1848-1915, M.A. 1853(DAUGHTER). 19. RACHEL WOOD died 10 Apr 1841 in TITUS COUNTY. NOTES: AMBROSE AND RACHEL TRAVELED TO TEXAS IN 1837. THEY SETTLED IN EAST TEXAS IN THEN RED RIVER COUNTY. AMBROSE WAS A FARMER AND A CHAIN MAN FOR ALLEN URGUHART, A SURVEYOR. MARRIAGE DOCUMENTED ONLINE IN EARLY ALABAMA MARRIAGES BEFORE 1825 Index Name ID Generation ANDERSON, JOE 6 3 ANDERSON, MAY HENRY 3 2 BOOTH, SALLY 5 3 BURNS, EDGAR HENRY 1 1 BURNS, HENRY EUGENE 2 2 BURNS, ISAAC 8 4 BURNS, WILLIAM B 4 3 RIPLEY, AMBROSE 18 5 RIPLEY, MARY ANN 9 4 SEYELES, MARGARET 7 3 WOOD, RACHEL 19 5 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Ken, I don't know about the Adoption laws in Texas, but in Louisiana it would be next to impossible. When a child is adopted in LA, they have the same rights as a natural born child if not more! An adopted child has rights to inheritance not only to the adopted parents but the natural as well! I wish you luck on your research. I adopted my child and do not think any other way by her other than she is MY CHILD! I would hope that no other family member would try to prove otherwise! Allen Lawrence Kenneth Spangler wrote: Here is a quick question that I thought I would never ask. If I were to discover that my grandparents had adopted a child, (not my father but one of the siblings) would there be a way to discover when the adoption took place? I know this would have taken place around 1926 in Red River county. I just don't know how the laws are concerning adoptions. The concerned individual died in the 1980s. I'm not so much concerned about the identity of the individual as I am just proving that this individual was not an actual birth child, but adopted. Any responses to help guide me in this area would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken Spangler Paris, Texas --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Jim: The J.R. Mowery buried at Concord Cemetery is James "Richard" Mowery, son of Mathias. Richard married my g. grandfather's sister Susan Thoms 3-31-1868, after the death of Richard in 1881 Susie married Robert Monkhouse. Frances one of the daughter's of Richard and Susie Mowery, married Charley "Bud" Monkhouse who is the father of Jim Edd Monkhouse, confusing yes but maybe this puts together some connection with Hopewell. Beverly Presson Bakersfield, CA

Don't know whether I'm the John you had in mind, but I was a child in Bogata in the early thirties. The fireballs sound like a lot of fun, maybe dangerous but fun, but I don't remember such in Bogata. Maybe they were strictly a family custom. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" <tempt@icx.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] John do you remember? > July 4th is coming up and we are trying to make it back to Avery for the > Tomato Festival and all the celebration. My mind drifted back to some July > 4ths in Avery. In the early 30's our fireworks consisted of things Mom > made. She would take cloth and tear it in strips. It was usually old Cotton > sheets. She would make a tight ball stitching every layer, until it was > about the size of a softball. She would make two of them and soak them in > Coal Oil for about 3-4 weeks. She would keep them submerged all the time. > On the night of July 4th she would take them out of the Kerosene and lay > them on the ground for about 30 minutes. When everyone was ready for the > big event she would light both balls and we would pick them up and throw > them to each other. They would make the most awful fluttering sound going > thru the air and somewhat awesome with the fire flying off them and > drifting in the wind. At first I thought Mom would whip me if I didn't pick > it up and throw that firey thing. I just knew my hands would burn off. But > in desperation or fear of Mom's whipping I picked it up and threw it fast. > We would throw the balls and try to hit the other ball for hours. Everyone > took turns and everyone had a -----ball doing it. The cost of this > entertainment was almost zero, and could be reused, but oh so much fun. It > wasn't long before the store bought fireworks replaced these wonderful ole > balls. > Eddie M. Robinson > Oak Ridge, Tn > "The Secret City" > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

July 4th is coming up and we are trying to make it back to Avery for the Tomato Festival and all the celebration. My mind drifted back to some July 4ths in Avery. In the early 30's our fireworks consisted of things Mom made. She would take cloth and tear it in strips. It was usually old Cotton sheets. She would make a tight ball stitching every layer, until it was about the size of a softball. She would make two of them and soak them in Coal Oil for about 3-4 weeks. She would keep them submerged all the time. On the night of July 4th she would take them out of the Kerosene and lay them on the ground for about 30 minutes. When everyone was ready for the big event she would light both balls and we would pick them up and throw them to each other. They would make the most awful fluttering sound going thru the air and somewhat awesome with the fire flying off them and drifting in the wind. At first I thought Mom would whip me if I didn't pick it up and throw that firey thing. I just knew my hands would burn off. But in desperation or fear of Mom's whipping I picked it up and threw it fast. We would throw the balls and try to hit the other ball for hours. Everyone took turns and everyone had a -----ball doing it. The cost of this entertainment was almost zero, and could be reused, but oh so much fun. It wasn't long before the store bought fireworks replaced these wonderful ole balls. Eddie M. Robinson Oak Ridge, Tn "The Secret City"

I guess I missed that discussion. I see if I can pick it up somewhere. My name is Bettye Justis. I live in Bastrop, TX. I have been quietly keeping up with things happening on this board for some time. My inlaws moved from Cherry area about 1924 or so I am not sure right now. The moved from there to Melvin, TX , San Saba, TX, then to Llano, TX in 1946. I would appreciate any info you can find for me. I was able to obtain a marriage lice. for Maud and Joseph Justis when I was there. I find no records of Joseph Felix Justis (Justice as it is mispelled in most cases.). I have been curious as to what he was doing in Clarksville area. There was a family named Carrol that lived near by. My father in law said he thought they were related to the Justis family and moved from there to Anson. The Grant house was the old one with the porch all around it. I think it was green at the time. Mr. Grant went to school with Charlie Justis and there was one other man we saw there that when to school with them. I can't remember his name. He was at a Mobil station in town when we caught up with him (I think it was Mobil). The rail way was near where the Justis family lived. We walked out to where it had been and got some wonderful pictures of Charlie on the tracks and near the crawdad hole were he fished when he was a child. Charlie was the oldest of 7 or 8 children. Most of the born in the area. Bettye Bettye

Charlie Justis. He was born in RR County in 1910. His family lived in the Cherry Community. Most of his brothers and sisters were also born there. I am looking for any and all informtion I cn find on the family. Also my father in law's mother and dad were married there in 1907. Maud Bannings and Joseph Justis. Maud was raised by the CC Loggins family as her father died when she was about 2. They lived near the railroad track near where the Grant house is. We visted there a few year back and went to the cemetery and around the community with my father in law. It is a beautiful area, my father in law talked about Clarksville with love in his heart. He had only fond memories of the area. He passed away Jan. 2002 at 94 yrs. I just wonder if there are any photo's of the school in that community out there some where. Bettye

I just got to share this with my friends. (delete if not interested) I have been keeping my eye/ear open for Mathias Mowery (born 1812) for several years. Just his week-end I had contact with a person that filled in the blanks for me. My task was to connect Mathis Mowery that married my GG GF Wiley Giddens's sister, Malinda Giddens, in 1837 in Red River Co. (od and confusing that Wiley's wife name was Malinda also). I knew there just had to a connection to Mathias & the present day Mowery's from Hopewell that I go to church with it Paris. I finally got the information together to fill in the blanks. It also connects all of them to J.B. Mowery burred at Concord (Giddens) Cemetery. I also found a J.R. Mowery in the mix, so I still need to make sure these are not the same two people. Mathias was a very interesting man that own the land that became Blue Ridge, Tx. (between Dallas and Bonham). He received the land grant for his service in the Texas Revolution. Just what his service was seems to be in question. Records show he arrived in Red River County 15 Oct 1834.. He had land dealing in Lamar County and was on the Fed Census in Red River county in 1850 with wife and children. They had 13 children. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx

Bettye, My father was born in 1910. His sister died when she was 4 in 1912 and was the first Giddens buried at Stone's Chapel. My dad went to Hopewell around 1918 when his father "Marion Giddens" started teaching at Hopewell School. He and your Justis may have gone to school together. I will see what I can find out. We discussed the Cherry School a few weeks ago on this board, did you get in on that. My dad Robert "Wesley" Giddens passed away Oct 15, 2002. at the age of 92, but in the one room school, I bet they were in the same room. It is thought that the sister "Vivian Giddens" died of cholera that had struck the community. You mention the Grant house. Are you talking of the old one at Cherry. It burnt down about 2 months ago. There is no railroad track at Cherry, so maybe you are speaking of another house. Bettye, if you don't mind, we would like you last name also and area/city you live. It just make us all a little my interested in the one we are talking. However it is not a requirement and I understand if you had rather not. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBjustis@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Old School Picture from Sherry, Texas. > Charlie Justis. He was born in RR County in 1910. His family lived in the > Cherry Community. Most of his brothers and sisters were also born there. > > I am looking for any and all informtion I cn find on the family. Also my > father in law's mother and dad were married there in 1907. Maud Bannings and > Joseph Justis. Maud was raised by the CC Loggins family as her father died when > she was about 2. They lived near the railroad track near where the Grant > house is. We visted there a few year back and went to the cemetery and around > the community with my father in law. It is a beautiful area, my father in law > talked about Clarksville with love in his heart. He had only fond memories of > the area. He passed away Jan. 2002 at 94 yrs. I just wonder if there are any > photo's of the school in that community out there some where. > > Bettye > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks. I was getting excited as my father in law went to school at Cherry. I jsut wanted to be sure. Thanks. Bettye

Bettye, My dad went to school at Cherry around 1912 and my grandfather was teaching there. There are both buried there at Cherry/Stone Chapel. What is the name of your father in law, if you don't mind sharing. Maybe I would know him. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBjustis@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Old School Picture from Sherry, Texas. > Thanks. I was getting excited as my father in law went to school at Cherry. > I jsut wanted to be sure. > > Thanks. > > Bettye > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Ken I sent the picture to my the Clarksville Class of 59 and also to the class of 60 to see if they could help. Thanks for sharing the picture with us. Hope we can find some answers. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Spangler" <spanglergen@yahoo.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Old School Picture from Sherry, Texas. > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone would be interested in an old school picture I found last night. It says on the back that it is the Sherry School but I don't know what year. Perhaps someone who might know can help me identify what year and some of the children in it. > > I'll post it online at http://www.geocities.com/kenopoly/images/sherryschool.jpg and see what kind of response I can get. > > This picture was recovered from my Grandmother's after the tornado of 1982 in Paris. She had many pictures that I may eventually post and see if anyone can help identify. > > Please reply to the list and let me know if you know anything. > > Thanks to everyone, > > Ken Spangler > Paris, Texas > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Is the picture from Sherry or Cherry School? Bettye

Opps, Sorry Ken, I see now it was your grandmother's picture. Do you know her connection to Sherry? Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Spangler" <spanglergen@yahoo.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Old School Picture from Sherry, Texas. > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone would be interested in an old school picture I found last night. It says on the back that it is the Sherry School but I don't know what year. Perhaps someone who might know can help me identify what year and some of the children in it. > > I'll post it online at http://www.geocities.com/kenopoly/images/sherryschool.jpg and see what kind of response I can get. > > This picture was recovered from my Grandmother's after the tornado of 1982 in Paris. She had many pictures that I may eventually post and see if anyone can help identify. > > Please reply to the list and let me know if you know anything. > > Thanks to everyone, > > Ken Spangler > Paris, Texas > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Someone has probably replied already, I just got in, but. Sherry is a old community about 4 miles south of Clarksville on the "old" Bogata highway FM 909. Cherry is a old community north of Clarksville about 4 miles and east of Hwy 37 on FM 2283 about 2 miles where Stones Chapel Cemetery is. There was a school at Cherry and I assume there was a school at Sherry. It has always been confusing to a lot of people including me. Jim Giddens Paris, p.s. Ken what was your mother's maiden name? I was raised in Clarksville. Maybe some of us will know her or the family. Or maybe she only has the picture and did not go to school there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Moore" <moor4933@bellsouth.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Old School Picture from Sherry, Texas. > Ken: > In what Red River County community is Sherry School located. > Thanks: > > Bob Moore in MS > moor4933@bellsouth.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Spangler" <spanglergen@yahoo.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:49 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Old School Picture from Sherry, Texas. > > > > Hi all, > > > > I was just wondering if anyone would be interested in an old school > picture I found last night. It says on the back that it is the Sherry School > but I don't know what year. Perhaps someone who might know can help me > identify what year and some of the children in it. > > > > I'll post it online at > http://www.geocities.com/kenopoly/images/sherryschool.jpg and see what kind > of response I can get. > > > > This picture was recovered from my Grandmother's after the tornado of 1982 > in Paris. She had many pictures that I may eventually post and see if anyone > can help identify. > > > > Please reply to the list and let me know if you know anything. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Ken Spangler > > Paris, Texas > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi everyone, Here is a quick question that I thought I would never ask. If I were to discover that my grandparents had adopted a child, (not my father but one of the siblings) would there be a way to discover when the adoption took place? I know this would have taken place around 1926 in Red River county. I just don't know how the laws are concerning adoptions. The concerned individual died in the 1980s. I'm not so much concerned about the identity of the individual as I am just proving that this individual was not an actual birth child, but adopted. Any responses to help guide me in this area would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken Spangler Paris, Texas --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).