Jim, Send the IGO to me. That is my line. BUCHANAN/IGO/TALLEY, from Red River Co., TX. They will connect with the GENTRY/HAGGARD/ lines from KY and VA. My best, Charliene Wright Miller Wills Point, Van Zandt Co., TX

Opps, Berry, I see I did a typo. I typed "do" when I meant "don't". I bet you figured that out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "brodie sr" <jbrodie@livingston.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] family > Jim and Berry... > I too always wonder....it does make it sorta hard to figure out ....thanks > for mentioning that problem....jan brodie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] family > > > > I always wonder who such a e-mail is meant for when it does not say and > the > > original e-mail is not attached. > > Since I do not recall the name of the sender, I assume it is not me, but > I > > have been wrong before at least once or twice.<grin>. I am always > looking > > for new long distance cuz'n. > > > > I assume the sender thinks the original e-mail will be attached, but > > sometimes it isn't. > > > > Berry, do think I am picking on you please. I just see this happen > from > > time to time and hope the person knows who they are. > > > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Berry Davis" <bgdoss@brightok.net> > > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:16 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] family > > > > > > > Hi > > > This is your cousen . It has been a long time since I have talked to > you. > > > Please e-mail me at bgdoss@brightok.net > > > I cant get the address I have to go to you. Berry > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jim and Berry... I too always wonder....it does make it sorta hard to figure out ....thanks for mentioning that problem....jan brodie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] family > I always wonder who such a e-mail is meant for when it does not say and the > original e-mail is not attached. > Since I do not recall the name of the sender, I assume it is not me, but I > have been wrong before at least once or twice.<grin>. I am always looking > for new long distance cuz'n. > > I assume the sender thinks the original e-mail will be attached, but > sometimes it isn't. > > Berry, do think I am picking on you please. I just see this happen from > time to time and hope the person knows who they are. > > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Berry Davis" <bgdoss@brightok.net> > To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:16 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] family > > > > Hi > > This is your cousen . It has been a long time since I have talked to you. > > Please e-mail me at bgdoss@brightok.net > > I cant get the address I have to go to you. Berry > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi group, Just a note to let you know I have added many new pages to Early Texas Newspaper Clippings. These are abstracts from various early Texas newspapers which contain events such as death notices, marriages, crimes, and lots of other genealogically relevant trivia. Most of these are late 1800s through early 1900s. Warning, they can be fun and addicting to read! http://www.censusdiggins.com/tx_news.html Happy Searchin' Brenda CensusDiggins.com http://www.censusdiggins.com Home of FREE databases and GenStuff GiveAway.

All, I have been e-mailed by two Igo brothers. They are great great grandsons of Garrett Igo that is buried at Concord. Their father moved from Clarksville when he was 5. Their father Ernest Igo was born in Madras in 1915. Earnest's mother was Elsa Harvey from the area but they know not where. Their new grandson was named Garret Igo. They know little if anything about Red River Co. They did visit Concord once. They know nothing about John & Joan Igo that I went to high school with in Clarksville. They are interested in the area and hope to return for a visit in the future. I think they they found me from the RRCo web-site. If anyone has any family history of their family, I will pass it on to them. I did scan the Igo page in the RRR book and send it to them. I know of no family connection between the Igo and Giddens people. One brother lives in Sugarland, Tx and the other in Arcadia, Ok. Have a good week-end. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx jimg@cox-internet.com

Hello, My Grandmother Ruby Edna Sargent, daughter to William W. Sargent and Millie Taylor was born in Cherry TX. She married Clarence Green who was born in Box Elder, son to James ( Jim ) Green and Dora Sullivan. I really need some help with my Sullivan line I can not get back any further than who i believe to be her father James Sullivan who lived near Clarksville. None of my great-grandparents Green or Sullivan have death cert. even though they died in the 1920's. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Carol

Ginger, I think you will find all the names you mentioned in this note are connected to the Detroit area. Also, I believe the Bethel Church that was mentioned was located at the Bethel Cemetery near Fulbright. The John Nance Garner birthplace marker is not far from this cemetery. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: <gingerbread@neto.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Book "A Pioneer Farmer's Daughter of Red River Valley" > While helping my sister clean a closet this afternoon, I came across a book "A Pioneer Farmer's Daughter of Red River Valley" by Emma Guest Bourne. This book was published in 1850. I don't remember this book being discussed on this list before. It is not indexed and I have just begun to read it, but it has many names of which people on this list would be interested. > > John Martin Guest and wife Mary Katherine (Polly) Dickson > Isaac Guest > John Dickson > Frances Garner & John Nance (Jack) Garner > Tolbert Guest > John Martin Jr. (Little Mart) > Nancy Jane Anderson > Dr. Clark > William Stephenson > Pastors: Stephenson, McKinzie (McKenzie), Whiteside, Duncan, Smalley, Graham > William Humphrey > Judge Bennett > George Wright > M. H. Wright > J. W. Hardison > > Tom & Jim, you would be particularly interested in this excerpt: > > "It was at Old Bethel that we went to Sunday School and Church. Uncle Jimmy Watson was our Sunday School superintendent for twenty years and his dear wife, Aunt Anna, was teacher for the little folk these years." > > The beginning of this book tells of the settling of Jonesboro and the surrounding area. At the end of the book is the followinfg statement..."These are stories the author heard and experience as a child and in later years." > > Ginger > Annona, TX > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

While helping my sister clean a closet this afternoon, I came across a book "A Pioneer Farmer's Daughter of Red River Valley" by Emma Guest Bourne. This book was published in 1850. I don't remember this book being discussed on this list before. It is not indexed and I have just begun to read it, but it has many names of which people on this list would be interested. John Martin Guest and wife Mary Katherine (Polly) Dickson Isaac Guest John Dickson Frances Garner & John Nance (Jack) Garner Tolbert Guest John Martin Jr. (Little Mart) Nancy Jane Anderson Dr. Clark William Stephenson Pastors: Stephenson, McKinzie (McKenzie), Whiteside, Duncan, Smalley, Graham William Humphrey Judge Bennett George Wright M. H. Wright J. W. Hardison Tom & Jim, you would be particularly interested in this excerpt: "It was at Old Bethel that we went to Sunday School and Church. Uncle Jimmy Watson was our Sunday School superintendent for twenty years and his dear wife, Aunt Anna, was teacher for the little folk these years." The beginning of this book tells of the settling of Jonesboro and the surrounding area. At the end of the book is the followinfg statement..."These are stories the author heard and experience as a child and in later years." Ginger Annona, TX

Debra, I appreciate the offer of help. I am not sure I want to go through all that trouble to prove anything, it's just I would like to know how my aunt fits in here. I talked to my mother the other day and she said that my last living aunt on this side said that Helen was adopted, but she doesn't know anymore than that. I plan on getting with her daughter and seeing what she can tell me. I just like to know how everyone fits in, not trying to say she's not from our line. She was raised, apparantly, from a little baby by my grandparents, so that would make her just as much a part of the family as any others. I just wanted to clarify why I couldn't find a birth certificate. If you are interested, the names concerned are my grandparents, Dave Franklin Spangler and Ora Elizabeth Gamble. The one I am thinking might be adopted is Helen Marie Spangler. My cousin is showing a birth date of 6-23-1926 in Clarksville. Helen's obituary shows she is the daughter of Ora Elizabeth Spangler and shows my aunts and Dad as her siblings. I did find a birth record for her daughter that showed Helen's name as Helen Marie Parker. It's a very interesting mystery, but it wouldn't change how I feel about aunt Helen, just would help me to make sure I have my facts right. I kind of find it interesting how to handle some situations. You don't want to offend someone because this person has always been a part of the family, but sometimes you find out things that perhaps better kept secret. I always find it hard to figure out how to record the facts without offending folks. Thanks for any help, Ken Spangler Paris, Texas BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: That would be probably hard to find out. I know I had to petition the court here in Lamar cty to open my adoption papers file. Since that has happened, the only thing I really would like to have now is my original birthcertificate, which is in Austin sealed....until I can get the same judge to send a court order to unseal it. Do you know how old the person was when they were adopted??? I can try to help, if you can email me personally with information concerning bith date, name of grandparents, etc. Anything to help you out. Debra Cornett Usry Paris ___________________ * * * * * * * * *___________________ * * * * * * * * ___________________ * * * * * * * * *___________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

Beverly, Thank you so much for sharing the e-mail about the Mowerys. I really enjoyed it and it gave me a lot of information. Carol

That would be probably hard to find out. I know I had to petition the court here in Lamar cty to open my adoption papers file. Since that has happened, the only thing I really would like to have now is my original birthcertificate, which is in Austin sealed....until I can get the same judge to send a court order to unseal it. Do you know how old the person was when they were adopted??? I can try to help, if you can email me personally with information concerning bith date, name of grandparents, etc. Anything to help you out. Debra Cornett Usry Paris ___________________ * * * * * * * * *___________________ * * * * * * * * ___________________ * * * * * * * * *___________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ ______________________________

I agree and am happy that you are doing this for Cory. I was adopted too! I am now 45 and have FTM titled "birth family" and "family" as well by the surnames themselves. It can get kind of hairy sometimes keeping them apart and I have learned when I hit a rock, I move on to the other name for a while. Congratulations on doing this heartfelt task, so your child can know of who he came from.....besides God. ___________________ * * * * * * * * *___________________ * * * * * * * * ___________________ * * * * * * * * *___________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ ______________________________

I always wonder who such a e-mail is meant for when it does not say and the original e-mail is not attached. Since I do not recall the name of the sender, I assume it is not me, but I have been wrong before at least once or twice.<grin>. I am always looking for new long distance cuz'n. I assume the sender thinks the original e-mail will be attached, but sometimes it isn't. Berry, do think I am picking on you please. I just see this happen from time to time and hope the person knows who they are. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Berry Davis" <bgdoss@brightok.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] family > Hi > This is your cousen . It has been a long time since I have talked to you. > Please e-mail me at bgdoss@brightok.net > I cant get the address I have to go to you. Berry > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

List: This is kind of long but since there are several that are interested in the Mowery's I am forwarding on an e-mail that I received several years ago, it contains lots of interesting inf. Beverly Presson Bakersfield, CA April 1, 2000 Beverly, I came across your information on my great grandmother. I assume that you to are a descendant of this dear lady. Your information did not include my grandfather Luther Monroe Mowery or a second son who was killed during World War I. I recall seeing a picture of the military company that grand dad's brother was in. An interesting thing about the picture was that one of the soldiers was in the picture twice. The explanation was that the camera was one of the old type that had a crank on it and they turned the camera while it was taking the picture. One of the men jumped down off the platform and ran around behind the other soldiers and made it to the other side before the camera was turned all the way to the opposite side of the company of men. My grand dad was born in December 8, 1873; and died in 1955. He married Elmira Talley. They had six children that lived. I am not sure if there were some who died in their infancy. Aunt Maude was the oldest and outlived all of her siblings, her husband and all of her children. I preached her funeral this January assisted by my first cousin Kennith Mowery at Idabel, Oklahoma. She was 104 years of age. Aunt Maude married Mills Reed and they spent much of their life in the Hopewell community of Red River County, Texas. She was buried in the Denison Cemetery east of Idabel where several of our relatives are buried including my parents. Aunt Ruby was the second child of grand dad and grandmother Mowery. She married a Porter. Her grandson Raymond (Ray) Porter, Jr. has a web site on family history. Some of it is not complete and the battle site in which Mathias Mowery was taken prisoner was not in Arkansas, but Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). My dad William Oliver (Ollie) Mowery, Sr. was the third child; my mother was Dezdy Myrtle Wilson. My parents had seven children. The first two were boys that died in infancy. The next three were girls, Charleen, Mildred and Ollie Jean. Ollie Jean died about 12 years ago. The last two were boys: my brother William Luther (Bill), and myself. I only have my dad's initials. My name is W. O. (Dub) Mowery, Jr. Now back to the children of my grandparents: uncle Richard was the fourth child; uncle Bradley was the fifth child, and uncle Sidney was the sixth child. Aunt Cindy is the only sibling of grand dad Mowery that I knew. She and uncle Jim lived in the Hopewell community. They had one of the old fashion homes with a fox (dog) trot breezeway in the middle of it. They did not have any children. Her actual name Lucinda. She was named after one of her aunts. I did not know my great aunt Francis or whether her and her husband had any children. I knew that there was a connection between the Monkhouse family and the Mowery family. Well maybe I have rattled on too long. I would appreciate hearing from you and exchanging family data. I lived north of Mt. Pleasant, Texas for seven years until moving to Drumright, Oklahoma where I preach for the West Broadway church of Christ. My wife Charlotte and I are doing research on our respected families. I have come in contact with several descendants of Mathias and Malinda (Giddens) Mowery on the various genealogy web sites. The web site of Ray Porter's in which he is dedicating to his father is: http://hometown.aol.com/morphism/homepage.htm My sister Charleen Samuels lives at McAlester, Oklahoma. She also is doing extensive family research. We will be looking forward to hearing from you. Dub P. S. There will be a Mowery family reunion at my niece Jeanie Gail Chadwick's home in Idabel on the Saturday of May 13th. You would be welcome to join in with us. Also, there is usually a Mowery reunion at Jacksonville, Texas each summer.

Hi This is your cousen . It has been a long time since I have talked to you. Please e-mail me at bgdoss@brightok.net I cant get the address I have to go to you. Berry

Thanks for your reply. Our Justis is suppose to be from Alabama. Joe Felix Justis, parents were Frank Justis and Tilda Count. Joe Felix came to Texas RR Co. when he was 10 . I have no documentation on Frank and Tilda except writing in the family Bible. Joe was suppose to be born in Scottboro. AL. I have no proof of any of this other than the Bible I metion. I have not found anything in Alabama that shows they were ever there. Bettye

Got my Red River County Genealogical Society Quarterly in the mail today. Sharon, You did another great job as usual. Also it was neat to see that a Giddens had a car by 1912. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx jimg@cox-internet.com

Hi, I'm also interested in the Mowerys as Luther Mowery married my Elvira Talley. Luther's father was James Richard Mowery ( I think). Thanks, Carol Tyler Scarborough China Spring, Tx

Bettye, I don't think I have information on the particular Justis you are looking for, but have some information on Charles Wesley Justis, b. abt. 1849, Powhatan, Va. who married Lucy Bryant of Red River County, Texas. Lucy was a daughter of Joseph Roberts Bryant, s/o Solomon George Bryant of RR Co., and Marion Florida Pickett, d/o Willis Picket and Lucy Boller/Bowler of RR Co. Lucy and Charles had six children, including Charles Wesley, Jr. Lucy died ca. 1885, Kaufman Co., Texas. Charles died in Arkansas ca. 1927. After Lucy's death, Charles married Mollie Young. They had four children. Andrea Ramsay

In a message dated 6/11/2003 7:18:31 AM Mountain Daylight Time, awl1957@hotmail.com writes: > A SON OF HENRY EUGENE AND MAY ANDERSON BURNS, MARRIED KATHLEEN > ABERNATHY May Anderson Burns was a sister to Lonzo Harmon Anderson as well as Tom Anderson, Dave Anderson and Anna Anderson Burns. There may have been other siblings but these are the ones listed in the obituary for Lonzo. Their father may have been Dave Anderson. I suspect that these Burns were somehow connected to my maternal grandmother, Eddie Burns Reed, but have not quite figured it out. My grandmother was the daughter of William A. Burns and Paralee Aribell Hart. She was born October 3, 1880 in Weaver, Hopkins County. Lonzo's son, James Dee Anderson, married my aunt, Earlie Reed. I would be happy to share information. Phyllis Carpenter, Colorado