Paris news also has story of Clarksville City Council condemning 13 properties. Also Jim Missildine of the Detroit (formerly of Avery 7-eleven) has bought property (3.5 acres) near the Red River on Albion road. I wonder what he will do with this property. He has always been a business man, but I thought he retired from all that when he sold his covenant store just west of Detroit around a year or 2 ago. I guess I will learn later. Missildine bought Eddie's parents business in Avery just after I went there in 1969, sold it several years later and put in business at Detroit. Jim Giddens

Oran Ford (husband of Betty Ford) has been missing in Red River County since Saturday. Yesterday (Monday's) www.theparisnews.com has a story on it "Bogata Man Missing" I first heard of it Sunday afternoon on the police scanner at my wife's parent's home in Clarksville. He has had touches of dementia (memory problems). He was last seen driving around in north Red River County in his pickup, stopping and visiting a few friends. Oran and Betty lived across the street from parents home in Clarksville (College Ave) around the period of 1959. As of last night they still had not found him. I hope they find him just lost on a back road, but I fear worse than that. Oran is 74 years old. They have had police, VFD, and helicopters searching for his him in his 1995 red Ford truck. Betty said he had just filled up both tanks of gas and he could drive as far as 600 miles on those gallons. He is diabetic and does not have his medicine with him. Sunday they were searching the Hopewell, Negley & Bagwell area. He had told one of these people he was going to visit a man in Okla. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. I have not heard any news on this, this morning.

I see now that you referred to the older Bill as William. I only recall him being called Bill, and the son, Billy Ray. I never met William, he must have been a fine man. Yes, the grocery store was/is the building on the corner. I wonder if Billy Ray is still running a grocery business in it. I should have noticed in recent months, but I haven't. Shame on me. I will next time. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. Is my type coming to you much smaller that it did in the past. I have been trying to make my printer print smaller but I must have clicked the wrong buttons. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dobie@cowtown.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Re: Avery TX// Bill Moore > Jim, > You are correct about the elder Bill Moore's death. I should have said Katie and Billy -- was just > abbreviating his name to Bill as I think I did as a youngster. I am glad you pointed that out as it > could result in confusion to anyone else. > > By the way, I have done quite a bit of research on the BOZE family and am happy to share. I would > love to find more old pictures on any of these families -- BOZE, MOORE, COLLVINS. > > Thanks, > Cathy >

Thought some of ya'll might remember this local legion from South east Red River. Tycob lived a really wonderful life. We will miss his stories about the about his life along the Sulphur River, he caught the biggest catfish, alligator, cat, coon, deer or what ever there was to hunt or catch. TYCOBB PYNESDeKALB, Texas-Byron E. "Tycobb" Pynes, 87, of Lydia, Texas, died Saturday, June 28, 2003, at a local nursing home.Mr. Pynes was born April 7, 1916, in Red River County, Texas. He was a retired millwright from Day & Zimmerman, a Methodist and a member of the National Rifle Association and The American Quarter Horse Association. He was preceded in death by one son, Jerry Elvin Pynes, in 1954.Survivors include his wife, Amy Pynes of Lydia; four daughters and sons-in-law, Velda and Bobby Thomas of Simms, Texas, Peggy and Jack Lee of Oak Grove, Texas, Elsa and James Roberts of New Boston, Texas, and Barbara and Doden King of DeKalb; 15 grandchildren; and 25 great-grandchildren.Services will be 10 a.m. Tuesday at Bates-Rolf Funeral Chapel with the Rev. Rufus Castro officiating. Burial will be in Lydia Cemetery.Visitation will be 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. today at the funeral home.Memorials may be made to the Lydia Cemetery Association, in care of Peggy Lee, Route 1, Box 47C, Avery, TX 75554. Max Shumake Rt. 1 Box 277A De Kalb, Tx. 75559 Home 903-667-5033 Cell 903-244-1747

Jim, You are correct about the elder Bill Moore's death. I should have said Katie and Billy -- was just abbreviating his name to Bill as I think I did as a youngster. I am glad you pointed that out as it could result in confusion to anyone else. By the way, I have done quite a bit of research on the BOZE family and am happy to share. I would love to find more old pictures on any of these families -- BOZE, MOORE, COLLVINS. Thanks, Cathy Jim Giddens wrote: > I could be wrong, but I always thought Bill Moore died while owning the > drug store, because people were always talking about how much the missed > Bill Moore at the pharmacy when he died. Maybe not. If I see Billy Ray > (son) again, I will ask him. Billy Ray and I first meet when we were > both going to PJC in Paris after high school. Him from Avery and me from > Clarksville. > Jim G

I could be wrong, but I always thought Bill Moore died while owning the drug store, because people were always talking about how much the missed Bill Moore at the pharmacy when he died. Maybe not. If I see Billy Ray (son) again, I will ask him. Billy Ray and I first meet when we were both going to PJC in Paris after high school. Him from Avery and me from Clarksville. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: <dobie@cowtown.net> To: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> Cc: "Red River County Roots" <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Avery TX > Hi Jim, > Thanks for the history on this and I appreciate your checking the old prescriptions. I was ten > years old when my grandmother Cooper passed away, but I have fond memories of visiting with her and > going to the drug store for "coffee break" while visiting with Katie Moore. A child's memory can be > easily confused, but I think Katie and Bill bought the Cooper grocery, which was on the end/corner > of that line of businesses. > > The Moores were also family connections through GG-Grandparents William Thomas (1850-1920) and Emily > Jane Chaney BOZE; daughter Isadora married Emmerson MOORE and daughter Corena (1878-1950) married > Dr. COLLVINS. > > Cathy > > > Jim Giddens wrote: > > > (I took the liberty to forward my reply to the entire board, to a question > > to me directly. You never know who may be interested. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > _____ > > Cathy, > > Yes it is the same drug store. When I bought the business (not the > > building) in Jan 1970, Bill Moore had died. Mrs Katie Moore and her son > > Billy Ray were running a grocery store two building to the west of Gathings > > Drug Store. > > I changed the name to Avery Pharmacy. I will find the old prescriptions > > (in the attic). I don't have but about 6 or 8, > > I do not remember the Dr Collins being one of the doctors, but not sure. > > There were still some Collvins in Avery when we were there, and they are > > still there. > > Later, > > Jim Giddens >

Hi Jim, Thanks for the history on this and I appreciate your checking the old prescriptions. I was ten years old when my grandmother Cooper passed away, but I have fond memories of visiting with her and going to the drug store for "coffee break" while visiting with Katie Moore. A child's memory can be easily confused, but I think Katie and Bill bought the Cooper grocery, which was on the end/corner of that line of businesses. The Moores were also family connections through GG-Grandparents William Thomas (1850-1920) and Emily Jane Chaney BOZE; daughter Isadora married Emmerson MOORE and daughter Corena (1878-1950) married Dr. COLLVINS. Cathy Jim Giddens wrote: > (I took the liberty to forward my reply to the entire board, to a question > to me directly. You never know who may be interested. > __________________________________________________________________________ > _____ > Cathy, > Yes it is the same drug store. When I bought the business (not the > building) in Jan 1970, Bill Moore had died. Mrs Katie Moore and her son > Billy Ray were running a grocery store two building to the west of Gathings > Drug Store. > I changed the name to Avery Pharmacy. I will find the old prescriptions > (in the attic). I don't have but about 6 or 8, > I do not remember the Dr Collins being one of the doctors, but not sure. > There were still some Collvins in Avery when we were there, and they are > still there. > Later, > Jim Giddens

Annette, re your post on Cherry Community. By any chance were your CHERRYs out of Stewart Co., TN? I came across some CHERRYs there that married MORRISes that may be cousins to my MORRISes from next door in Montgomery Co., TN one of whom went to Red River Co. Charmaine Charmaine Riley Holley archivehobbit@mac.com "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings

I see in the Paris News today the obit of Horace Weldon Stinson, 68 of Paris, born in Avery. He has 5 surviving brothers, James, Boss, Melvin, Joe and Irb Stinson (I thing the last one is Irby Stinson that was mayor of Avery the when I as on the city council. He does have other surviving sisters and children. Hummmmm, the obit is confusing to be as to if the siblings are deceased or living, but I think living. His wife died in 1988. The preacher officiating at the service is Bro. Jim Elsom of Paris, is a very good friend of mine. Bro Elsom will be 80 in August. The name "Boss" was recently mentioned on this board. I also see the obit of Allie Blance Holder, 86, of Decatur, formerly of Avery. Her deceased husband was Amos Holder. I wonder if Amos was a brother to Enos M (Gid) Holder of Avery that was buried at Savannah Cemetery in 1999. Jim G

I don't find either name in the RRR book or the Cemetery book. Sarah Sulphur Springs ----- Original Message ----- From: <MabryRJ@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:03 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Broomfield/Brumfield > Would someone please see if either of these names is in the Red River > Recollections book? Thanks. Linda Mabry > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Would someone please see if either of these names is in the Red River Recollections book? Thanks. Linda Mabry

There was a Salem Church with cemetery that i went to this spring to visit my ggrandparents grave site. It look well kept and maybe still having services. Does this church have any records from the late 1800's to early 1900's? Since my ggrandparents are buried there i thought they may have attended this church. If i remember right it was on the way to Anona from Clarksville. Carol

Carol, That church is in Boxelder. My grgr grandmother and gr grandparents plus many more are buried there. One cousin gave me a certificate that stated my gr grandfather was an elder once. But I don't know how you could get any information. I understand they did hold service still there, but don't know for sure now. Good luck. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <TChris56@aol.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Salem Church > There was a Salem Church with cemetery that i went to this spring to visit my > ggrandparents grave site. It look well kept and maybe still having services. > Does this church have any records from the late 1800's to early 1900's? > Since my ggrandparents are buried there i thought they may have attended this > church. If i remember right it was on the way to Anona from Clarksville. > > Carol > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

(I took the liberty to forward my reply to the entire board, to a question to me directly. You never know who may be interested. ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ Cathy, Yes it is the same drug store. When I bought the business (not the building) in Jan 1970, Bill Moore had died. Mrs Katie Moore and her son Billy Ray were running a grocery store two building to the west of Gathings Drug Store. I changed the name to Avery Pharmacy. I will find the old prescriptions (in the attic). I don't have but about 6 or 8, I do not remember the Dr Collins being one of the doctors, but not sure. There were still some Collvins in Avery when we were there, and they are still there. Later, Jim Giddens p.s. You might be surprised at the interest. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dobie@cowtown.net> To: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Avery TX > Jim, > I am a member of the Red River mailing list and just saw your recent posting regarding the Gathings > drug store and your mention of having some old 1917 and 1918 prescriptions. I am a granddaughter of > J. O. and Leottie Collvins Cooper, who had a grocery store there until her death in 1966. Also, Dr. > James Thomas Collvins was my G-Grandfather. He practiced in Avery until his untimely death in late > 1918 from the Spanish Influenza Epidemic. I was curious about a couple of things. Is this the drug > store that William and Katie Moore had? Also, by any chance, would any of these prescriptions have > been written by Dr. Collvins? > > I hesitated to post this to the list as it is so specific, and I didn't know if anyone else would be > interested. > > Would enjoy hearing from you. > > Sincerely, > Cathy Carroll > TX >

Well so far so good not one listing of a surname from my direct family tree lines. Does a happy Dance. Steven Eads If the world is my oster. I will need more hotsauce. > Someone posted this url on another list and although it is not where I > would want to find any of my family, it certainly is interesting. You > can go to any of the states listed and then scroll down the > chronological list to see who in what county was executed for what > crime. There are a few from Red River Co., along with surrounding > counties. > > http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/ > > Charmaine > Charmaine Riley Holley > archivehobbit@mac.com > > "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." > - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

As far as I know none of the names below are a part of our Willett family. Thanks so much for the offer! Our group had gone to AR some time in the 1840s. Janet Jim Giddens wrote: >I see these Willett names in the index of the Red River Recollections >(book). >Willett, >A.R., Arthur, Emiley Louise, and Eric Peay Willett. > >I don't have time to read the text now, but I will check it later if you >like. > >Jim Giddens >Paris, Tx > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Janet" <jsmilam@att.net> >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:02 AM >Subject: [TXREDRIV] Willett > > > > >>My gggggrandfather was Andrew (Andress) Willett. in Dec, 1835 Sam >>Houston recruited him to come from Tennessee to Texas to fight for >>Texas. He came from McNairy, TN to Red River, TX but shortly after >>arrival in TX he died on 28 Jun 1836 of fever after exposure in MS >>swamps. His wife, Julia Benson Shropshire Willett, later received a >>league and a labor from the Republic. >>Children were Abraham Allen, Richard Parsons, Thomas Marion, Harrison >>Hicks, John Andrew, Martha Lavina, and James R who was born in Red River >>Co. 2 Jun 1836. On 2 Jan 1838, Julia married William Morris with whom >>she had Sarah Isabelle, George W, Alfred H., Jordan B., and Mary Jane. >> Is anyone researching this Willett family? Janet Milam >> >> >> >>==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== >>Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv >> >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

No problem Carrie, even if you married an old woman, it's legal now. Not too much fun, but legal. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrie Pierce" <cpiercetx@msn.com> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 4th of July > Yeah Jim, my husband's starting to put his two cents in the plan > formation...darn it! Sorry to hear about Eddie, my Roy was real excited he > might get to meet his "science e-m pal". I know my husband, he'll try to > make us stay home where its "safer". Sometimes I think I married an old > woman! No offense ladies, but you know what I mean. Which reminds me of > this little prayer, and I hope no one thinks I'm being blasphemous...far > from it~~~ > > Dear Lord, > I pray for Wisdom to understand my man; > Love to forgive him; > And Patience for his moods; > Because Lord if I pray for Strength > I'll beat him to death. > Amen! > > And a great Sunday morning to you from Pecan Gap! > > Carrie Brock Pierce > Grinning on the porch in Pecan Gap, TX > > > >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> > >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 4th of July > >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:05:16 -0500 > > > >Carrie, > > I don't know what special people will be at Avery for the Tomato > >Festival > >Days. Maybe someone else has more information. I bet the Avery web site > >will have it or you can e-mail the city secretary. > >My family is have a get together the 4th. I hope I am able to get to > >Avery. > >Eddie Robinson hope to be there but he is having medical complications with > >a knee that may prevent him from traveling from Tenn. > > I am sure there will be a lot of people there but I don't know about > >people from our list group. One place to meet if we do may be the old > >drug > >store building on Main Street (actually Texas Ave if I recall correctly), > > but the Business US 82. The title out side the front door says > >"DRUGS". > >It is not a eating place with some antiques in it. I was there last week > >and saw such stuff as the "Gathings" drug wrapping paper on a big roll and > >some bottle that had grease pencil markings make by me in the 70s. Some > >one had already cleared out the really old stuff before I bought the drug > >store in 1969. I do still have a few old prescriptions that were written > >in 1917 and 1918 and filled at the old drug store. > > > > If this does not work out, maybe we could have one of own reunions > >again > >in the near future like we had 2 or 3 years ago. > > > >Jim Giddens > >Paris, Tx > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carrie Pierce" <cpiercetx@msn.com> > >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 9:46 PM > >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 4th of July > > > > > > > > > > Hey List! I was just wondering if someone would be kind enough to post > >the > > > Avery Independence Day Festivities addy again? I told my 10 year old > >that > > > "Eddie the Rocket Scientist" is going to be there, and that's where he > >wants > > > to be, too! Are there going to be a slew or a few RRCO listers there? > >And > > > where would they congregate? Hmmmmmm? > > > > > > Carrie Brock Pierce > > > Pecan Gap, TX > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > >go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I see these Willett names in the index of the Red River Recollections (book). Willett, A.R., Arthur, Emiley Louise, and Eric Peay Willett. I don't have time to read the text now, but I will check it later if you like. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <jsmilam@att.net> To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Willett > My gggggrandfather was Andrew (Andress) Willett. in Dec, 1835 Sam > Houston recruited him to come from Tennessee to Texas to fight for > Texas. He came from McNairy, TN to Red River, TX but shortly after > arrival in TX he died on 28 Jun 1836 of fever after exposure in MS > swamps. His wife, Julia Benson Shropshire Willett, later received a > league and a labor from the Republic. > Children were Abraham Allen, Richard Parsons, Thomas Marion, Harrison > Hicks, John Andrew, Martha Lavina, and James R who was born in Red River > Co. 2 Jun 1836. On 2 Jan 1838, Julia married William Morris with whom > she had Sarah Isabelle, George W, Alfred H., Jordan B., and Mary Jane. > Is anyone researching this Willett family? Janet Milam > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yeah Jim, my husband's starting to put his two cents in the plan formation...darn it! Sorry to hear about Eddie, my Roy was real excited he might get to meet his "science e-m pal". I know my husband, he'll try to make us stay home where its "safer". Sometimes I think I married an old woman! No offense ladies, but you know what I mean. Which reminds me of this little prayer, and I hope no one thinks I'm being blasphemous...far from it~~~ Dear Lord, I pray for Wisdom to understand my man; Love to forgive him; And Patience for his moods; Because Lord if I pray for Strength I'll beat him to death. Amen! And a great Sunday morning to you from Pecan Gap! Carrie Brock Pierce Grinning on the porch in Pecan Gap, TX >From: "Jim Giddens" <jimg@cox-internet.com> >Reply-To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >To: TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 4th of July >Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:05:16 -0500 > >Carrie, > I don't know what special people will be at Avery for the Tomato >Festival >Days. Maybe someone else has more information. I bet the Avery web site >will have it or you can e-mail the city secretary. >My family is have a get together the 4th. I hope I am able to get to >Avery. >Eddie Robinson hope to be there but he is having medical complications with >a knee that may prevent him from traveling from Tenn. > I am sure there will be a lot of people there but I don't know about >people from our list group. One place to meet if we do may be the old >drug >store building on Main Street (actually Texas Ave if I recall correctly), > but the Business US 82. The title out side the front door says >"DRUGS". >It is not a eating place with some antiques in it. I was there last week >and saw such stuff as the "Gathings" drug wrapping paper on a big roll and >some bottle that had grease pencil markings make by me in the 70s. Some >one had already cleared out the really old stuff before I bought the drug >store in 1969. I do still have a few old prescriptions that were written >in 1917 and 1918 and filled at the old drug store. > > If this does not work out, maybe we could have one of own reunions >again >in the near future like we had 2 or 3 years ago. > >Jim Giddens >Paris, Tx > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carrie Pierce" <cpiercetx@msn.com> >To: <TXREDRIV-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 9:46 PM >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] 4th of July > > > > > > Hey List! I was just wondering if someone would be kind enough to post >the > > Avery Independence Day Festivities addy again? I told my 10 year old >that > > "Eddie the Rocket Scientist" is going to be there, and that's where he >wants > > to be, too! Are there going to be a slew or a few RRCO listers there? >And > > where would they congregate? Hmmmmmm? > > > > Carrie Brock Pierce > > Pecan Gap, TX > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Someone posted this url on another list and although it is not where I would want to find any of my family, it certainly is interesting. You can go to any of the states listed and then scroll down the chronological list to see who in what county was executed for what crime. There are a few from Red River Co., along with surrounding counties. http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/ Charmaine Charmaine Riley Holley archivehobbit@mac.com "...but hobbits have a passion for family history." - Tolkein in Lord of the Rings