On my way to work this a.m., I took a few minutes to drive out to Sylvan and to the Sylvan Cemetery. Of course Sam is correct. However I drove by it the first time without seeing it. It is close to exactly 2.0 miles from U.S. 82 and there is a Hwy type(state) sign on the left (north) side of the road pointing to the cemetery. It is just a few yards before you get to CR 13100. It is about 200 ft out in a pasture. You will not have any trouble with weeds or brush. There is a gate near the road. It has a latched chain, but not a lock. The lady next door said to keep the gate chained or the horses would get out. I could see the marker from the gate, but I did not have time to stop and go in for a look. I did not notice or could not see a fence around the immediate area of the cemetery. I guess that means the cemetery and visitors are exposed to the horses. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy E. Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > Thanks Sam, that does help. : ) > > sam embrey <[email protected]> wrote:I will help if I can. It is listed as the Sylvan Cemetery. If you know where > Sylvan is, then the cemetery is on the East part of Sylvan, on the North > side of the road. I had a friend buried there not long ago, and I am sure it > is open. If I can help more, just let me know. > Sam > Paris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy E. Cole" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:18 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone > > familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the > > name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was there > > a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there > > about 25 years ago.. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Thanks Sam, that does help. : ) sam embrey <[email protected]> wrote:I will help if I can. It is listed as the Sylvan Cemetery. If you know where Sylvan is, then the cemetery is on the East part of Sylvan, on the North side of the road. I had a friend buried there not long ago, and I am sure it is open. If I can help more, just let me know. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy E. Cole" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] question > Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone > familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the > name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was there > a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there > about 25 years ago.. > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I will help if I can. It is listed as the Sylvan Cemetery. If you know where Sylvan is, then the cemetery is on the East part of Sylvan, on the North side of the road. I had a friend buried there not long ago, and I am sure it is open. If I can help more, just let me know. Sam Paris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy E. Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] question > Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone > familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the > name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was there > a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there > about 25 years ago.. > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was there a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there about 25 years ago.. --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

I agree Drew. As long as the person who did the actual research and documented it, [which usually costs a price] gives that person credit for the work, then that's okay. But there are so many out there that take advantage of those who do spend money to document and abuse the right to the information by passing it around without permission. My cousin just doesn't like all the WRONG info that is out there being passed around. She has tried to work something out with the people that were brave enough to put their names on the wrong info. So far no one has agreed to correct what they have out there floating around. My experiences have been with members of my own family. My Mothers side. One cousin took the info and set herself up on a county web page doing "look ups" from my info and taking credit for it. The other cousin, also Mothers side didn't put it on her web page, but gave it to someone else to put on theirs. A very bad situation when family can't be trusted. Thanks again for your help. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > Glad to be of help. It is a sore subject for some I have noticed, but I think the core of it all is just people wanting to keep things correct and factual. I am sure there are some people that want to "copyright" for profit or personal gain, but most all geneaologist that I have met just want their work recognized and depicted accurately. > > I can fully understand those that put years into writing a family book only to see it cut and pasted into a thousand "family history" projects. I have seen my own work protrayed by others as their own. It bothers me to a point, but I figure at least someone is getting good use of it. As long as the person references the actual source, then personally I am ok with it. > > Good hunting! > > Drew Slate > Fort Worth, Tx > > > > From: "Shirley Daykin" <[email protected]> > > Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 03:04:30 EDT > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > > > THANKS DREW FOR THE INFO. IT WILL GIVE US SOME GUIDELINES. I THINK I FOUND > > THE SITE YOU ARE REFERRING TO. IT SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF > > DO'S AND DON'TS AND COPYRIGHT INFORMATION. THANKS AGAIN, MUCH APPRECIATED. > > > > I'M NOT SHOUTING AT YOU WITH THE USE OF CAPS, I'M JUST ONE STEP ABOVE BEING > > LEGALLY BLIND AND IT IS NECESSARY SOME DAYS TO USE THEM. > > > > SHIRLEY > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > > > > > > Hello Shirley, > > > > > > This is a topic that I have seen debated quite a bit. The copyright laws > > are about how you present and package information not the actual content, in > > our hobby that is things like dates, names, places, etc. These are facts > > and thus public domain for a lack of a better term. > > > > > > You can create a book of your family history and copyright that history > > as a whole, but you can't copyright the actual factual information. Does > > that make sense? > > > > > > Here is a short article on what I am talking about... > > > > > > ====================================================== > > > Genealogy Tip of the Day > > > > > > Can You Copyright Your Family Tree? > > > > > > ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day > > > Yes, please sign me up for the free ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day > > newsletter. > > > > > > One subject which is always good for a passionate discussion among > > genealogists is the issue of copyright laws as they pertain to genealogy. > > Some feel the family data they compile and place in GEDCOM files is > > protected by copyright. Others are of the opinion that everything > > genealogy-related on the Internet is public information and free for the > > taking. The remaining genealogists cover the spectrum of opinions between > > the two extremes. > > > > > > Copyright laws vary by country, but for most countries the basic premises > > are the same: > > > > > > facts and data can not be copyrighted > > > narration, compilations and creative works are protected by copyright > > > Copyright law in the U.S. does not protect data, only the presentation of > > the data. This is an important point for genealogists, because it means that > > facts (names, dates, places, etc.) presented in a standard format, such as a > > pedigree chart or GEDCOM file, are not protected by copyright. However, if > > you take this data and present it in your own unique format, such as a > > narrative, then the presentation of the material is protected by copyright, > > even when the facts are not. Large, original compilations of facts can also > > be protected by copyright - such as in the case of genealogical data CDs. > > You can enter a fact from such a CD into your database and it is free for > > use, but you can not legally reproduce the entire content of the CD. Public > > records in the U.S. are also not protected by copyright laws. This means > > that information copied from vital records, tombstones, court records, etc. > > are considered facts and cannot be copyrighted. > > > > > > So how do you go about publishing your genealogy information on the > > Internet, while still protecting it from genealogists too lazy to do their > > own research? It's all in the extras. If you wish to display your > > information in GEDCOM or pedigree chart format, then include plenty of > > personal commentary in the form of notes. Or consider displaying your family > > information in a story format complete with photos (yes, they are protected > > by copyright). This won't prevent people from using your facts, but it will > > make it difficult for them to legally import your family tree into their > > database verbatim. > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > There are some very specific copyright writeups and websites if you would > > like to read the actual laws. If you would like to see them, I can find it > > again and post it... > > > > > > Drew Slate > > > Fort Worth, Tx > > > > > > > > From: "Shirley Daykin" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 01:26:38 EDT > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > > > > > > > Is there anyone out there that can tell me what the steps are for > > getting > > > > your genealogy copyrighted? Whom do I contact? Anyone have an address > > or > > > > phone #? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Glad to be of help. It is a sore subject for some I have noticed, but I think the core of it all is just people wanting to keep things correct and factual. I am sure there are some people that want to "copyright" for profit or personal gain, but most all geneaologist that I have met just want their work recognized and depicted accurately. I can fully understand those that put years into writing a family book only to see it cut and pasted into a thousand "family history" projects. I have seen my own work protrayed by others as their own. It bothers me to a point, but I figure at least someone is getting good use of it. As long as the person references the actual source, then personally I am ok with it. Good hunting! Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx > > From: "Shirley Daykin" <[email protected]> > Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 03:04:30 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > THANKS DREW FOR THE INFO. IT WILL GIVE US SOME GUIDELINES. I THINK I FOUND > THE SITE YOU ARE REFERRING TO. IT SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF > DO'S AND DON'TS AND COPYRIGHT INFORMATION. THANKS AGAIN, MUCH APPRECIATED. > > I'M NOT SHOUTING AT YOU WITH THE USE OF CAPS, I'M JUST ONE STEP ABOVE BEING > LEGALLY BLIND AND IT IS NECESSARY SOME DAYS TO USE THEM. > > SHIRLEY > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > > > Hello Shirley, > > > > This is a topic that I have seen debated quite a bit. The copyright laws > are about how you present and package information not the actual content, in > our hobby that is things like dates, names, places, etc. These are facts > and thus public domain for a lack of a better term. > > > > You can create a book of your family history and copyright that history > as a whole, but you can't copyright the actual factual information. Does > that make sense? > > > > Here is a short article on what I am talking about... > > > > ====================================================== > > Genealogy Tip of the Day > > > > Can You Copyright Your Family Tree? > > > > ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day > > Yes, please sign me up for the free ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day > newsletter. > > > > One subject which is always good for a passionate discussion among > genealogists is the issue of copyright laws as they pertain to genealogy. > Some feel the family data they compile and place in GEDCOM files is > protected by copyright. Others are of the opinion that everything > genealogy-related on the Internet is public information and free for the > taking. The remaining genealogists cover the spectrum of opinions between > the two extremes. > > > > Copyright laws vary by country, but for most countries the basic premises > are the same: > > > > facts and data can not be copyrighted > > narration, compilations and creative works are protected by copyright > > Copyright law in the U.S. does not protect data, only the presentation of > the data. This is an important point for genealogists, because it means that > facts (names, dates, places, etc.) presented in a standard format, such as a > pedigree chart or GEDCOM file, are not protected by copyright. However, if > you take this data and present it in your own unique format, such as a > narrative, then the presentation of the material is protected by copyright, > even when the facts are not. Large, original compilations of facts can also > be protected by copyright - such as in the case of genealogical data CDs. > You can enter a fact from such a CD into your database and it is free for > use, but you can not legally reproduce the entire content of the CD. Public > records in the U.S. are also not protected by copyright laws. This means > that information copied from vital records, tombstones, court records, etc. > are considered facts and cannot be copyrighted. > > > > So how do you go about publishing your genealogy information on the > Internet, while still protecting it from genealogists too lazy to do their > own research? It's all in the extras. If you wish to display your > information in GEDCOM or pedigree chart format, then include plenty of > personal commentary in the form of notes. Or consider displaying your family > information in a story format complete with photos (yes, they are protected > by copyright). This won't prevent people from using your facts, but it will > make it difficult for them to legally import your family tree into their > database verbatim. > > ==================================================== > > > > There are some very specific copyright writeups and websites if you would > like to read the actual laws. If you would like to see them, I can find it > again and post it... > > > > Drew Slate > > Fort Worth, Tx > > > > > > From: "Shirley Daykin" <[email protected]> > > > Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 01:26:38 EDT > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > > > > > Is there anyone out there that can tell me what the steps are for > getting > > > your genealogy copyrighted? Whom do I contact? Anyone have an address > or > > > phone #? > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hello Shirley, This is a topic that I have seen debated quite a bit. The copyright laws are about how you present and package information not the actual content, in our hobby that is things like dates, names, places, etc. These are facts and thus public domain for a lack of a better term. You can create a book of your family history and copyright that history as a whole, but you can't copyright the actual factual information. Does that make sense? Here is a short article on what I am talking about... ====================================================== Genealogy Tip of the Day Can You Copyright Your Family Tree? ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day Yes, please sign me up for the free ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day newsletter. One subject which is always good for a passionate discussion among genealogists is the issue of copyright laws as they pertain to genealogy. Some feel the family data they compile and place in GEDCOM files is protected by copyright. Others are of the opinion that everything genealogy-related on the Internet is public information and free for the taking. The remaining genealogists cover the spectrum of opinions between the two extremes. Copyright laws vary by country, but for most countries the basic premises are the same: facts and data can not be copyrighted narration, compilations and creative works are protected by copyright Copyright law in the U.S. does not protect data, only the presentation of the data. This is an important point for genealogists, because it means that facts (names, dates, places, etc.) presented in a standard format, such as a pedigree chart or GEDCOM file, are not protected by copyright. However, if you take this data and present it in your own unique format, such as a narrative, then the presentation of the material is protected by copyright, even when the facts are not. Large, original compilations of facts can also be protected by copyright - such as in the case of genealogical data CDs. You can enter a fact from such a CD into your database and it is free for use, but you can not legally reproduce the entire content of the CD. Public records in the U.S. are also not protected by copyright laws. This means that information copied from vital records, tombstones, court records, etc. are considered facts and cannot be copyrighted. So how do you go about publishing your genealogy information on the Internet, while still protecting it from genealogists too lazy to do their own research? It's all in the extras. If you wish to display your information in GEDCOM or pedigree chart format, then include plenty of personal commentary in the form of notes. Or consider displaying your family information in a story format complete with photos (yes, they are protected by copyright). This won't prevent people from using your facts, but it will make it difficult for them to legally import your family tree into their database verbatim. ==================================================== There are some very specific copyright writeups and websites if you would like to read the actual laws. If you would like to see them, I can find it again and post it... Drew Slate Fort Worth, Tx > > From: "Shirley Daykin" <[email protected]> > Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 01:26:38 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > Is there anyone out there that can tell me what the steps are for getting > your genealogy copyrighted? Whom do I contact? Anyone have an address or > phone #? > Thanks. > > Shirley > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

THANKS DREW FOR THE INFO. IT WILL GIVE US SOME GUIDELINES. I THINK I FOUND THE SITE YOU ARE REFERRING TO. IT SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF DO'S AND DON'TS AND COPYRIGHT INFORMATION. THANKS AGAIN, MUCH APPRECIATED. I'M NOT SHOUTING AT YOU WITH THE USE OF CAPS, I'M JUST ONE STEP ABOVE BEING LEGALLY BLIND AND IT IS NECESSARY SOME DAYS TO USE THEM. SHIRLEY ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > Hello Shirley, > > This is a topic that I have seen debated quite a bit. The copyright laws are about how you present and package information not the actual content, in our hobby that is things like dates, names, places, etc. These are facts and thus public domain for a lack of a better term. > > You can create a book of your family history and copyright that history as a whole, but you can't copyright the actual factual information. Does that make sense? > > Here is a short article on what I am talking about... > > ====================================================== > Genealogy Tip of the Day > > Can You Copyright Your Family Tree? > > ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day > Yes, please sign me up for the free ABOUT Genealogy Tip of the Day newsletter. > > One subject which is always good for a passionate discussion among genealogists is the issue of copyright laws as they pertain to genealogy. Some feel the family data they compile and place in GEDCOM files is protected by copyright. Others are of the opinion that everything genealogy-related on the Internet is public information and free for the taking. The remaining genealogists cover the spectrum of opinions between the two extremes. > > Copyright laws vary by country, but for most countries the basic premises are the same: > > facts and data can not be copyrighted > narration, compilations and creative works are protected by copyright > Copyright law in the U.S. does not protect data, only the presentation of the data. This is an important point for genealogists, because it means that facts (names, dates, places, etc.) presented in a standard format, such as a pedigree chart or GEDCOM file, are not protected by copyright. However, if you take this data and present it in your own unique format, such as a narrative, then the presentation of the material is protected by copyright, even when the facts are not. Large, original compilations of facts can also be protected by copyright - such as in the case of genealogical data CDs. You can enter a fact from such a CD into your database and it is free for use, but you can not legally reproduce the entire content of the CD. Public records in the U.S. are also not protected by copyright laws. This means that information copied from vital records, tombstones, court records, etc. are considered facts and cannot be copyrighted. > > So how do you go about publishing your genealogy information on the Internet, while still protecting it from genealogists too lazy to do their own research? It's all in the extras. If you wish to display your information in GEDCOM or pedigree chart format, then include plenty of personal commentary in the form of notes. Or consider displaying your family information in a story format complete with photos (yes, they are protected by copyright). This won't prevent people from using your facts, but it will make it difficult for them to legally import your family tree into their database verbatim. > ==================================================== > > There are some very specific copyright writeups and websites if you would like to read the actual laws. If you would like to see them, I can find it again and post it... > > Drew Slate > Fort Worth, Tx > > > > From: "Shirley Daykin" <[email protected]> > > Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 01:26:38 EDT > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Information Please: > > > > Is there anyone out there that can tell me what the steps are for getting > > your genealogy copyrighted? Whom do I contact? Anyone have an address or > > phone #? > > Thanks. > > > > Shirley > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Is there anyone out there that can tell me what the steps are for getting your genealogy copyrighted? Whom do I contact? Anyone have an address or phone #? Thanks. Shirley

Didn't a recent article in RootsWeb online newsletter touch on this issue? I think they said research is not copyrightable? kitty Shirley Daykin wrote: >Is there anyone out there that can tell me what the steps are for getting >your genealogy copyrighted? Whom do I contact? Anyone have an address or >phone #? >Thanks. > >Shirley > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

That wasn't J. R. Lewis' family that had a mayor of Clarksville. I don't know his dad because he was never in the picture, but his mom is Betty Mitchell Lewis and she had sons, Mark and Mitch. One of them committed suicide and is buried in the Detroit Cemetery, the other was the mayor. I used to know Betty quite well because she was a neice of Irene Stanley, Stewart Stanley's wife. He was a Tx. Ranger, remember? There was a family of Lewis' that lived in Bagwell and went to Clarksville to school. One that I'm thinking of was married at one time to Loretta [Rita] Yarbrough and they had 3 children. Two boys and a girl. Then Rita married a Vntrica. Her sons were Mark and Steven. Then there are some Lewis' here in Detroit that I don't think are related to any of these others. Paul Kent Lewis is still a barber here, has a shop on Hwy. 82 at the Detroit Auto. His parents were Paul and Alpha Lewis. Alpha was 100 or more when she died a few years back. There are others in his family near here also. Marilyn Detroit

Joyce was married to an Igo that was her sister's father-in-law, I think. He was much older than her, because I think she's the youngest daughter. But now, she's married to Doug somebody that is younger than her and lives in Bogata. Marilyn Detroit.

Luther and Jewell had a daughter, Joyce Nell Lewis, b. 11/20/1940, I have no other details of her so could be the same Beverly Bakersfield, CA

Oh my Gosh, Jim, they showed pictures of this on our local news in Texarkana last night. And all our local TV stations come out of Shreveport LA. This was just AWFUL. The trailer just creamed that Ford Tempo! You couldn't even tell it was a car. Nancy in Texarkana -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 08/15/05 23:21:10 To: [email protected] Subject: [TXREDRIV] Accident // 3rd time Well, I finally saw a report from a state trooper today in the Herald Democrat newspaper of the Sherman Denison area. I see the site is www.heralddemocrat.com but I have not pulled it up. Witness behind the truck a tractor-trailer rig with a flatbed trailer. The Trailer came unhooked from the tractor and veered into oncoming traffic. It slammed head on into a Ford Tempo, killing a Mr Tommy Gene Moore, 52 of Bells and his 3 children ages 11, 9, and 7. I am told he was raising his 3 children alone.. Services are pending with Mullican-Little Funeral of Savoy, Tx (about 8 miles down the old US 82 (Hwy 56). A front page picture shows the trailer hitch on the highway behind the truck Jim G ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Well, I finally saw a report from a state trooper today in the Herald Democrat newspaper of the Sherman Denison area. I see the site is www.heralddemocrat.com but I have not pulled it up. Witness behind the truck a tractor-trailer rig with a flatbed trailer. The Trailer came unhooked from the tractor and veered into oncoming traffic. It slammed head on into a Ford Tempo, killing a Mr Tommy Gene Moore, 52 of Bells and his 3 children ages 11, 9, and 7. I am told he was raising his 3 children alone.. Services are pending with Mullican-Little Funeral of Savoy, Tx (about 8 miles down the old US 82 (Hwy 56). A front page picture shows the trailer hitch on the highway behind the truck. Jim G

Does anyone know if the Joyce Lewis who married [9/24/1976 in Idabel] John Green Igo fits into this Lewis family? Charles Lawson At 02:25 PM 8/15/2005 , you wrote: >Archie Mac Lewis was accidently shot on November 19th, 1966 near Hopewell >at the age of 15. He was the son of Luther and Jewel Lewis. Archie loved >to read and was loved by all who knew him. Today was his birthday and he >wouldve been 54 years old today. It is so tragic that he is not here to >celebrate. But, I know he is definitely not forgotten. >Happy Birthday Archie Mac and you are in my thoughts.

Thanks Jim for trying to let me know about the Lewis families. I know mine were there in 1900, my grandmother got married. They were in Lamar county too. But if there is one thing I have learned trying to sort them out, there is a bunch of different families, that I know nothing about! I am beginning to think I will never find out about them. Guess I better get back to my quilt. Again, thank you to all of you. You all are the BEST. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Archie Mac Lewis > What about John L. Lewis about my age of 64, but I think he died a few > short years ago. Then J.R. Lewis, probably in his 70s and been around > Clarksville all my life at least. For a few years operated a BBQ place on > College here Clyde Bean's grocery store was (formally Reep & Bean Gro.). > J.R. has dabbled in city and county politics and I believe his son (forget > name) was mayor of C'ville for a short time not long ago, maybe 4-6 years. > There is also a Cora Lewis at Regency Nursing Home (I think she was a > Monkhouse). Cora got out one night about 2 weeks ago, the EMTs found her > about 100 yards down U.S. 82 in the lawn of the Church of Christ. She was > banged up pretty. They assume she feel out of her chair at least once. > It is possible she lost control on it on th downhill slant and it got away > from her. > I have in my mine 2 different faces for Cora Lewis, I need to get that > straight. > > I think John L was from Bagwell and drove a beautiful Blue/White 57 hardtop > Ford. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aron N. Batson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Archie Mac Lewis > > > > No , i dont think this is the same family. These Lewis's lived in Hopewell > all their lives. Sorry.. > > > > Peggy <[email protected]> wrote:Hi, > > > > I hope you don't mind me asking a couple of questions. Would Archie's > > dad, Luther have the name Archie too? Like Archie Luther, or Luther > Archie? > > And would his wife Jewel have lost an eye, due to some kids throwing rocks > > long ago. My Jewel always wore a patch on the eye. She and husband Archie > > lived in Garland, TX at one time for many years. Our parents used to take > us > > by on visits. I sure would love to find out more on this Lewis family. My > > Mom was a Lewis, and she died in 96. I never did get to find out much on > her > > family. > > Thank you. > > Peggy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aron N. Batson" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:25 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Archie Mac Lewis > > > > > > > Archie Mac Lewis was accidently shot on November 19th, 1966 near > Hopewell > > at the age of 15. He was the son of Luther and Jewel Lewis. Archie loved > to > > read and was loved by all who knew him. Today was his birthday and he > > wouldve been 54 years old today. It is so tragic that he is not here to > > celebrate. But, I know he is definitely not forgotten. > > > Happy Birthday Archie Mac and you are in my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

North Red River County. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Archie Mac Lewis > Which Hopewell was it, the one in Red River County or the one west of Paris, > in Lamar County? > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Phyllis and other Anderson researchers, I believe Wyatt Anderson to be the father of Joseph Anderson. Wyatt and family are listed in census 1850 and 1860 Sevier Co., AR Wyatt is also listed in census 1880 Red River Co., TX (buried Old Shamrock Cem., Red River Co, TX) Joseph and family are listed 1870 Red River Co., TX and 1880 Lamar Co, TX Children of Joseph and Margaret: John Thomas, William, Lonzo Harmon, Kate B, May Henry, David Benjamin, Margaret Caroline, Annie O. Joseph death and burial unknown to me. This is where I need HELP. I find a Margaret listed as wife of Louis Bartley 1900 Franklin Co, TX. Also listed as children are Maggie and Annie Anderson! Also listed on this page is Jack BURNS. Future husband of Annie! A grandson of Margaret Caroline recalls a Grandma Bartley. Does anyone have any information about this marriage? -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 08/13/05 09:38:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Joseph Anderson and Margaret Sickles AR to TX Phyllis, Joseph and Margaret are the parents of Lonzo Harmon (Harmon Lonzo). Do you have any information on Margaret? I have found her in 1870 and 1880 census. Think I have located her in Franklin Co, TX census with daughters Annie and Maggie. Have you found her in 1850 and 1860 AR census? The parents of Joseph Anderson are Wyatt and Jane Billingsley Anderson. Wyatt is buried at Old Shamrock Cem., Red River Co. Lee I am curious about the Lonzo that you mention. My uncle by marriage, Jim Dee Anderson, was the son of Harmon Lonzo Anderson and Ida Mae Phelps. Phyllis Carpenter ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Which Hopewell was it, the one in Red River County or the one west of Paris, in Lamar County?