This Bruntley family is listed in the Red River 1880 census: Sarah Bruntley Self F (Sex ) Widowed W (Race) Age 32 TN (Birthplace) Nannie B " Dau F S W 10 TX Roseanna " Dau F S W 9 TX Sarah I. " Dau F S W 5 TX Lillie " Dau F S W 3 TX Mary J " SDau F S W 17 TX Thomas Smothers married Martha Brundtly in Crockett CO., TN in 1879. There was a Thomas Smothers in Red River Co. in 1900 with two daughters, but he had married again and had a daughter and son by Carrie Hickey. I wonder if Sarah had a connection with Martha. Does anyone know this Bruntley family? Did any of the girls marry and stay in Red River County?

Tom & all, I do not believe Silberberg / Marx's was ever on the corner that I know of unless it was before my time it has always been in the same place. I remember as a boy, the large display glass in case that was like a island in the front of the store. It was probably about 6 ft x 10 foot. You could walk around and around it without going into the store, then there was two sets of double doors, never did seem to be a main door, but the mens side was on the left and the ladies and bedding etc was on the right. I also believe there was a penny weight machine it front, as the was at a few other stores, at least 3. Been a long day, better hit the sack and get ready for 5:50 a.m. again. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom watson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > Jim/Sharon: > Seems like I remember Silberberg's store being next door to the old Texan movie theater, which burned in the mid fifties. After it burned I think it was reopened as Marx Men's wear on the corner. It seems like the Odd Fellow hall was above these buildings. You can still see the Silberberg sign that is painted on the back of the buildings if you drive down that street that did go to the fire station ...before it burned.( The fire station burned later..poss. late 60's) It seems there is a storey about the cause of that fire. Does anyone recall it? > Tom Watson > Heath, TX Original Message ----- > From: Jim Giddens > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > It still wasn't easy to find. That input came his of the members of the > Silberberg family. Jerrold had his paragraph and (I had assumed it was > Gerald) must have been related, maybe a nephew etc. Maybe the RRR says, > but I'm going to bed to get ready for another long day tomorrow starting at > 5:30 when my alarm goes off. > I remember the store have the x-ray box in the shoe dept. I could see the > bones in my feet just by stepping up and putting the feet into the box. > Cool. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > Thanks John and Jim, > > Don't know why I didn't have sense enough to look in RRR. DUH!!! > > Sharon > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > > > I have only a vague memory of when I believe it was still Silberberg's > > and I > > feel very confidant is was Marx's when I was in college from 1964-1968. > > (Mr > > Marx sold me clothes at a discount because I was in college). I > > believe it > > was Marx's back in my high school years of the late 50s, but would not > > bet > > my check on it. > > My Aunt Inez Fryer was the seamstress for Mr Marx for many years. She > > is > > still alive and can probably tell me when it happened. > > Stop the presses, just got out the RRR and looked under Silberberg > > after > > no luck with Marx. Still a little hard to find the date, but Jerrold > > bought it out and changed the name to Marx'a in 1952 when he became > > owner. > > He worked there since 1934. > > (This is on page 266 top left). Jerrold and Mildred sold the store in > > 1979. > > Jim Giddens > > Paris, Tx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > > > > It was before 1976, if that's a help. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM > > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry > > > > Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? > > > > Sharon Black > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > > the > > > > areas they lived. 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Jim/Sharon: Seems like I remember Silberberg's store being next door to the old Texan movie theater, which burned in the mid fifties. After it burned I think it was reopened as Marx Men's wear on the corner. It seems like the Odd Fellow hall was above these buildings. You can still see the Silberberg sign that is painted on the back of the buildings if you drive down that street that did go to the fire station ...before it burned.( The fire station burned later..poss. late 60's) It seems there is a storey about the cause of that fire. Does anyone recall it? Tom Watson Heath, TX Original Message ----- From: Jim Giddens Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's It still wasn't easy to find. That input came his of the members of the Silberberg family. Jerrold had his paragraph and (I had assumed it was Gerald) must have been related, maybe a nephew etc. Maybe the RRR says, but I'm going to bed to get ready for another long day tomorrow starting at 5:30 when my alarm goes off. I remember the store have the x-ray box in the shoe dept. I could see the bones in my feet just by stepping up and putting the feet into the box. Cool. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > Thanks John and Jim, > Don't know why I didn't have sense enough to look in RRR. DUH!!! > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > I have only a vague memory of when I believe it was still Silberberg's > and I > feel very confidant is was Marx's when I was in college from 1964-1968. > (Mr > Marx sold me clothes at a discount because I was in college). I > believe it > was Marx's back in my high school years of the late 50s, but would not > bet > my check on it. > My Aunt Inez Fryer was the seamstress for Mr Marx for many years. She > is > still alive and can probably tell me when it happened. > Stop the presses, just got out the RRR and looked under Silberberg > after > no luck with Marx. Still a little hard to find the date, but Jerrold > bought it out and changed the name to Marx'a in 1952 when he became > owner. > He worked there since 1934. > (This is on page 266 top left). Jerrold and Mildred sold the store in > 1979. > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > It was before 1976, if that's a help. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > > > > Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry > > > Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? > > > Sharon Black > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I bought an Easter dress there in 1955, when I worked at The Hub. I thought it was still Silberberg's then. Marilyn

Wow, Jim!! I had forgotten about those x-ray shoe boxes that you could see the bones in your feet. Thanks for the memories you give us. Rosalie/New Boston

Thanks John and Jim, Don't know why I didn't have sense enough to look in RRR. DUH!!! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's I have only a vague memory of when I believe it was still Silberberg's and I feel very confidant is was Marx's when I was in college from 1964-1968. (Mr Marx sold me clothes at a discount because I was in college). I believe it was Marx's back in my high school years of the late 50s, but would not bet my check on it. My Aunt Inez Fryer was the seamstress for Mr Marx for many years. She is still alive and can probably tell me when it happened. Stop the presses, just got out the RRR and looked under Silberberg after no luck with Marx. Still a little hard to find the date, but Jerrold bought it out and changed the name to Marx'a in 1952 when he became owner. He worked there since 1934. (This is on page 266 top left). Jerrold and Mildred sold the store in 1979. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > It was before 1976, if that's a help. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry > > Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? > > Sharon Black > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

It still wasn't easy to find. That input came his of the members of the Silberberg family. Jerrold had his paragraph and (I had assumed it was Gerald) must have been related, maybe a nephew etc. Maybe the RRR says, but I'm going to bed to get ready for another long day tomorrow starting at 5:30 when my alarm goes off. I remember the store have the x-ray box in the shoe dept. I could see the bones in my feet just by stepping up and putting the feet into the box. Cool. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > Thanks John and Jim, > Don't know why I didn't have sense enough to look in RRR. DUH!!! > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > I have only a vague memory of when I believe it was still Silberberg's > and I > feel very confidant is was Marx's when I was in college from 1964-1968. > (Mr > Marx sold me clothes at a discount because I was in college). I > believe it > was Marx's back in my high school years of the late 50s, but would not > bet > my check on it. > My Aunt Inez Fryer was the seamstress for Mr Marx for many years. She > is > still alive and can probably tell me when it happened. > Stop the presses, just got out the RRR and looked under Silberberg > after > no luck with Marx. Still a little hard to find the date, but Jerrold > bought it out and changed the name to Marx'a in 1952 when he became > owner. > He worked there since 1934. > (This is on page 266 top left). Jerrold and Mildred sold the store in > 1979. > Jim Giddens > Paris, Tx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > It was before 1976, if that's a help. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > > > > Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry > > > Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? > > > Sharon Black > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I have only a vague memory of when I believe it was still Silberberg's and I feel very confidant is was Marx's when I was in college from 1964-1968. (Mr Marx sold me clothes at a discount because I was in college). I believe it was Marx's back in my high school years of the late 50s, but would not bet my check on it. My Aunt Inez Fryer was the seamstress for Mr Marx for many years. She is still alive and can probably tell me when it happened. Stop the presses, just got out the RRR and looked under Silberberg after no luck with Marx. Still a little hard to find the date, but Jerrold bought it out and changed the name to Marx'a in 1952 when he became owner. He worked there since 1934. (This is on page 266 top left). Jerrold and Mildred sold the store in 1979. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "John at Cox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > It was before 1976, if that's a help. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > > > > Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry > > Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? > > Sharon Black > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

It was before 1976, if that's a help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Black" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [TXREDRIV] Silberberg's > Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry > Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? > Sharon Black > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Does anybody know what year Jerrold Marx took over Silberberg's Dry Goods store in Clarksville and changed the name? Sharon Black

Jim...I am so proud of you and your wife's anniversary...you both should be proud...CONGRATULATIONS!!! BTWay..Betty and I were married May 27, 1960 in Lubbock and also have been married 45 years! In many ways, it doesn't seem so long ago... Good luck...good health, and happy days for you both! Jess Jess Headley Work: U-Joints, Inc. 6310 Genoa Suite D Lubbock, Texas 79424 806 794-6742 [email protected] Home: 4507 21st Street Lubbock, Texas 79407 806 791-3408 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jim Giddens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 7:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question I looked from the car pretty good, I was pretty close. there is not pad lock. Only a spring latch or what ever you call it. JimG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy E. Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > Thanks Jim for the information , we didn't get out of the car, so we assumed it must be locked. And Happy anniversery to you and Sue....: ) > > Jim Giddens <[email protected]> wrote:On my way to work this a.m., I took a few minutes to drive out to Sylvan > and to the Sylvan Cemetery. Of course Sam is correct. However I drove > by it the first time without seeing it. It is close to exactly 2.0 miles > from U.S. 82 and there is a Hwy type(state) sign on the left (north) side of > the road pointing to the cemetery. It is just a few yards before you get > to CR 13100. It is about 200 ft out in a pasture. You will not have any > trouble with weeds or brush. There is a gate near the road. It has a > latched chain, but not a lock. The lady next door said to keep the gate > chained or the horses would get out. I could see the marker from the > gate, but I did not have time to stop and go in for a look. I did not > notice or could not see a fence around the immediate area of the cemetery. > I guess that means the cemetery and visitors are exposed to the horses. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy E. Cole" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:19 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > Thanks Sam, that does help. : ) > > > > sam embrey wrote:I will help if I can. It is listed as > the Sylvan Cemetery. If you know where > > Sylvan is, then the cemetery is on the East part of Sylvan, on the North > > side of the road. I had a friend buried there not long ago, and I am sure > it > > is open. If I can help more, just let me know. > > Sam > > Paris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cathy E. Cole" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:18 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > > > > Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone > > > familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the > > > name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was > there > > > a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there > > > about 25 years ago.. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. 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Maybe so. I will go back and check my e-mails over the last couple of weeks. I am having similar genealogy conversations during this time with 2 or 3 different people and sometimes they run together in my mine. Let me sort out the e-mails. Back to you tomorrow. Thanks for hanging in there with me. BTW, I did read the document of Lt Giddens's grave being moved before the land was flooded to cemetery in the area. That is great news. More on that later. Jim G p.a. I meant to send this direct to avoid tying up the list, but I will do that next time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > CONGRATULATIONS!!! Could Mary be Donna's daughter? Donna said her mother > was a Giddens before she married. > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

CONGRATULATIONS!!! Could Mary be Donna's daughter? Donna said her mother was a Giddens before she married.

I looked from the car pretty good, I was pretty close. there is not pad lock. Only a spring latch or what ever you call it. JimG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy E. Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > Thanks Jim for the information , we didn't get out of the car, so we assumed it must be locked. And Happy anniversery to you and Sue....: ) > > Jim Giddens <[email protected]> wrote:On my way to work this a.m., I took a few minutes to drive out to Sylvan > and to the Sylvan Cemetery. Of course Sam is correct. However I drove > by it the first time without seeing it. It is close to exactly 2.0 miles > from U.S. 82 and there is a Hwy type(state) sign on the left (north) side of > the road pointing to the cemetery. It is just a few yards before you get > to CR 13100. It is about 200 ft out in a pasture. You will not have any > trouble with weeds or brush. There is a gate near the road. It has a > latched chain, but not a lock. The lady next door said to keep the gate > chained or the horses would get out. I could see the marker from the > gate, but I did not have time to stop and go in for a look. I did not > notice or could not see a fence around the immediate area of the cemetery. > I guess that means the cemetery and visitors are exposed to the horses. > Jim G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy E. Cole" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:19 AM > Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > Thanks Sam, that does help. : ) > > > > sam embrey wrote:I will help if I can. It is listed as > the Sylvan Cemetery. If you know where > > Sylvan is, then the cemetery is on the East part of Sylvan, on the North > > side of the road. I had a friend buried there not long ago, and I am sure > it > > is open. If I can help more, just let me know. > > Sam > > Paris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cathy E. Cole" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:18 PM > > Subject: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > > > > Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone > > > familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the > > > name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was > there > > > a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there > > > about 25 years ago.. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Congratulations Sue and Jim Giddens! That is an impressive number Jim. Many more. Bonnie Provence Shiro Idabel, Ok >From: "Jim Giddens" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:30:26 -0500 > >I don't know those names and I did not think Mary would be in Paris, but >Mary and I had been exchange e-mails about the Lt. Now I am puzzled? >I'll have to figure it out, might need some help. >Jim G. >p.s. My wife, Sue and I celebrated our 45th anniversary today. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:25 PM >Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > Jim, I ran into one of your kin folk today at the Lamar Cty >Courthouse...in > > the county clerk's office. They said to get you the message that they >had > > gotten a tombstone or marker placed at the Giddens ancestors.....the one >that was > > high up in the military??? Did not catch the ancestors name. They said >to > > tell you hello. > > > > Debra > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

No this is Donna and Berney Hollandsworth....

I don't know those names and I did not think Mary would be in Paris, but Mary and I had been exchange e-mails about the Lt. Now I am puzzled? I'll have to figure it out, might need some help. Jim G. p.s. My wife, Sue and I celebrated our 45th anniversary today. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > Jim, I ran into one of your kin folk today at the Lamar Cty Courthouse...in > the county clerk's office. They said to get you the message that they had > gotten a tombstone or marker placed at the Giddens ancestors.....the one that was > high up in the military??? Did not catch the ancestors name. They said to > tell you hello. > > Debra > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Thanks Jim for the information , we didn't get out of the car, so we assumed it must be locked. And Happy anniversery to you and Sue....: ) Jim Giddens <[email protected]> wrote:On my way to work this a.m., I took a few minutes to drive out to Sylvan and to the Sylvan Cemetery. Of course Sam is correct. However I drove by it the first time without seeing it. It is close to exactly 2.0 miles from U.S. 82 and there is a Hwy type(state) sign on the left (north) side of the road pointing to the cemetery. It is just a few yards before you get to CR 13100. It is about 200 ft out in a pasture. You will not have any trouble with weeds or brush. There is a gate near the road. It has a latched chain, but not a lock. The lady next door said to keep the gate chained or the horses would get out. I could see the marker from the gate, but I did not have time to stop and go in for a look. I did not notice or could not see a fence around the immediate area of the cemetery. I guess that means the cemetery and visitors are exposed to the horses. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy E. Cole" To: Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > Thanks Sam, that does help. : ) > > sam embrey wrote:I will help if I can. It is listed as the Sylvan Cemetery. If you know where > Sylvan is, then the cemetery is on the East part of Sylvan, on the North > side of the road. I had a friend buried there not long ago, and I am sure it > is open. If I can help more, just let me know. > Sam > Paris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy E. Cole" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:18 PM > Subject: [TXREDRIV] question > > > > Jim, you might know this, or someone living in or near Paris. Anyone > > familiar with the Sylvan community anf if so.. could someone tell me the > > name of the cemetery there... and is it still open to public, I was there > > a couple months ago and coundn't find entrance. We used to live there > > about 25 years ago.. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > Visit Red River County GenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~txredriv > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

It is my Lt James Richard Giddens, CSA, died 9 days after been shot at the Battle of Dove Creek with the Kickapoo Indians in the area of what is now San Angelo in Jan, 1865. The lady only has a calculated guess at to where the grave actually is. He was buried by this troops with full military honors on the banks of the Concho River on John Chisum's Ranch. Nearest my research has is that the grave is probably under the water of a man made lake now. The lady, Mary I think, has some information indicating the grave was moved to another cemetery, but even then, there was no marker to mark the grave location. I am repeating my self I am sure from the past on some of this. She has been updating me recently on her efforts. I certainly appreciate her. She is Mary Epley, new found distant cousin to me. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [TXREDRIV] question > Jim, I ran into one of your kin folk today at the Lamar Cty Courthouse...in > the county clerk's office. They said to get you the message that they had > gotten a tombstone or marker placed at the Giddens ancestors.....the one that was > high up in the military??? Did not catch the ancestors name. They said to > tell you hello. > > Debra > > > ==== TXREDRIV Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Jim, I ran into one of your kin folk today at the Lamar Cty Courthouse...in the county clerk's office. They said to get you the message that they had gotten a tombstone or marker placed at the Giddens ancestors.....the one that was high up in the military??? Did not catch the ancestors name. They said to tell you hello. Debra