I am looking for descendants of Charles A. and Blanche McGee who were living in Orange, TX, in 1922. If any of you have access to cemetery or other Orange Co., TX, records, I would appreciate your checking for McGees for me. I do not know that this couple died in Orange TX. I don't know where they died, or what became of their children, or other members of this family. The most recent information I have is from the 1922 obituary of Charles's father which states he was of Orange, TX. Please read on and see if you can offer any help. I'd be most appreciative. I'm writing from England and so am a long way away! ******************************************************************** The family I'm after first lived in Waelder, Gonzales Co., TX. William Wesley McGee (1848-1922) and CAroline L. Wilson (1844-1930) both died in Waelder. They had five children who lived to adulthood and four who survived William. I don't have Caroline's obituary, so I don't know what it says. The children were: 1. Rossie McGee (1878-1971), m. William Campbell. No issue. 2. Nannie McGee (July, 1880 -- aft. 1922), m. T. L. Steubing (c. 1875 -- ). They were in Gonzales County in 1900 and 1910 and in San Antonio, Bexar County, in 1920. A cousin recalls that she lived (and probably died) in San Antonio. She was living in San Antonio in 1922 when her father died. The census shows only two children: 1. Exa B. Steubing (c. 1899 -- ). 2. Thomas Steubing (c. 1910 -- ). 3. Charles A. McGee (July 1881 TX -- aft. 1922, ORANGE, TX), m. c. 1905, Blanche [----] (c. 1883, OH -- aft. 1920). Charles was in Hardin Co., TX, in 1910 and in Wichita Co., TX, in 1920 but his father's 1922 obituary says he was then of Orange, TX. He evidently got around, so I have no idea where he died, or if it was even in TX. Based on the census, he had these kids, who evidently were living with him in ORANGE, TX, in 1922: 1. William McGee (1907 -- ). 2. Alice McGee (1908 -- ). 3. James Patrick McGee (c. 1912 -- ). 4. George McGee (c. 1913 -- ). 5. Eugene McGee (c. 1916 -- ). 6. Leonard McGee (c. 1918 -- ). It's possible that Charlie stayed in Orange, TX, and died there, but he could've gone anywhere! I think TX has an index to early death certificates, so that might provide a clue. 4. Myrt McGee (Aug., 1883 -- bet. 1910 and 1920). The 1900 census shows him as a SON. The 1910 census indicates that Caroline still had five children living, so he must have been alive then. He is not mentioned in his father's 1922 obituary which names four children. 5. Etta May McGee (Oct., 1886 -- ), m. Tom Johnson. I couldn't find them in the census, but her father's 1922 obituary said they were of El Dorado, Arkansas. No information as to who her children were, if any. ******************************************************************* I would appreciate any help anyone can offer on the descendants of W. W. and Caroline Wilson McGee and especially on Charles A. McGee family of Orange, TX. Sincerely, Danny Knight.

I am trying to locate information concerning the Van Houten family who lived in Orange County (John Van Houten) d. 1900. They were also in Wharton County. Other names are: Richard Van Houten (b.12/26/1821)m. Jane Ryerson Adrian Van Houten (b. 1/25/1844) m. Elizabeth Dickinson Rosa Jane Van Houten (b. 9/5/1868) Sarah (Sadie) Margaret Van Houten (b. 3/16/1871) Born in TEXAS Charles Feitner Van Houten (b. 5/19/1874) Born in (I think) NEW ORLEANS This family eventually made its way to Susquhanna County and I believe are buried in Vestal Hills, NY Thanks in advance, Karen

Used book for sale: GATEWAY TO TEXAS - THE HISTORY OF ORANGE AND ORANGE COUNTY by Dr. Howard C. Williams. The Heritage House Museum of Orange. 1988. 261 p. HB; good; green cloth. Indians, Spain and French in East Texas, Anglo settlement, Texas Republic, Steamboat era, vignettes of Orange prior to Civil War, slavery and Civil War, reconstruction, railroads, cattle, rice, and timber, 20th century, oil boom, deep water port, ship building, Great Depression, WW II, recent years at a glance, An overview of climate, terrain, resources, ethnic melange, religion, eduction, culture. Tracings of the County's courthouses, cannon and State militia, post offices, communities, and tribute to commerce and industry. Indexed. $49.50 4th class postpaid (Add $3.00 for 1st class) STACEY'S BOOK SEARCH Albuquerque, New Mexico rmcclend@highfiber.com WebSite may be found at: http://www.highfiber.com/~rmcclend/Index.html A great source for used books and materials on genealogy, American and local history, biography, miscellaneous others, and an extensive book wants list. Free book announcements for recently published local history and genealogy!! All books are "POSTPAID". Checks, money orders, credit cards (MC or VISA) accepted.

I am seeking to locate descendants of a particular individual who was living in Orange, TX, in 1922. In 1920, he had been in Wichita Falls, TX, and in 1920 was in Hardin County but was born in Gonzales County. His name was CHARLIE A. MCGEE. He had a number of children as well by 1920. I will post wife and children's names later. I know from his father's 1922 obituary that he was living in Orange TX but do not know if he remained there or died there. I am hoping someone on this list will either know of the family or perhaps will have access to a cemetery book or early city directories that they can check for me. I am writing from England and so am a great distance away from the resources! Thank you very much for any help provided, Danny Knight.

> these looked like good sites. Put them in my favorite places. Looking for > information on Tafts that lived in Orange County 1912. My mother-in-law is 84 > and would like to find some Taft kinfolk. Her grandmother had a boarding > house in 1912 and her daughter Harry Mehitible Stella Frances Taft married > Edward (Eddie) Bosarge, she had two children there, one in Orange and one in > Lemonsville. Would love to find someone who does look-ups in Orange County to > look up the marriage. Have not been able to find out anything on this family. > There were three boys, Albert, Elmer and Douce. Help. Betty Martin > BMartin268@aol.com

http://www.pclink.com/kg0ay/search.htm Hi, Researchers! I sure hope I didn't already send this to you today! ~ The above URL is a page of genealogy links, said to be some "truly searchable ones". I took a quick look at it & it seems like a neat thing to have all on one page, thru one URL. ~ Looks like fun! ~ Cami ~

I am descended from Benjamin Long, Sr. (b. Feb 3, 18? - d. Dec 14, 1893 mineola, TX) who owned a plantation in Orange County. He was married to Mary Elizabeth Carrall Dyess (b. Aug 17, 1855 Tyler TX - d. Sept 2, 1944). Together they had six children: Benjamin Jr., Ruth Dyess, Richard Coke, Alfred, William Curtis, and Minnie Robertson. Does anyone have information regarded Benjamin Sr's birth and marriage? I am also looking for information regarding his parents, as well as Mary's. Thanks jennifer horst blazen@mail.utexas.edu

TXGenWebbers, First, I will apologize for you receiving more than one copy, if you belong to more than one of the lists I host. Since the 4th of December several people or "someone" has been subbing to all my county lists and within minutes or hours posting either a list of links or a "glowing" report about a new genealogy research service that has apparently just put a website at http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/ soliciting business for people needing Texas research done. This is a commercial site and the first visit I made there showed nothing free at all that had anything to do with Texas. I also noticed that these same postings were popping up on several lists that I belong in Texas that are not my own. Several days later I noted that a "very" small piece of a Texas census had been started and a "under construction" sign for that section. That has since been removed or, at least, I couldn't find it again. After receiving several private complaints, I decided to do some checking and received quite a SHOCK. The first "clue" was that Brenda Hay tracers@mailcity.com subbed then unsubbed from JASPER-D on December 24, 1998 4:01 AM and Jean Casteel genie1@mailcity.com subbed to JASPER-D on December 24, 1998 4:03 AM...... Just 2 minutes later!! The strange part was these postings, though grouped closely together, were under several different names that had never posted before. They turned out to be new subs. As we all know, these county lists are for posting information, queries, etc. as it specifically relates to each county. They are not for posting general links. Thinking that the poster might be a "newbie" I wrote privately to a couple asking their specific connection to the county. It really didn't take long to begin to put the pieces of this puzzle together but with the holidays I had delayed further investigation. What I discovered disturbed me greatly. I sent stern messages to each poster & to Becky Smesler Hay and after several exchanges of me asking Becky to explain the above subbing & unsubbing she told me she was "too busy for all this foolishness". Due to the continued postings about the "problem" I am presenting my findings on a webpage as it is FAR too complicated for email presentation. If all this can be explained away, I will send an apology to each and every person involved and to each Texas maillist. I have stated my opinion on the pages...... YOU DECIDE YOURS!! http://lest-we-forget.com/tracers/index.htm PS: If you feel that this is important enough for forwarding to any other lists to which you might belong or mentioning the URL, please feel free to do so. RootsLady (aka) Barbara Yancey Dore All comments are my opinion - take it for what its worth!! RootsLady@lest-we-forget.com (NEW) RootsLady@email.msn.com HomePage: RootsLady's Home, Home On The Web http://RootsLady.com CC for 8 TX Counties & 1 GA County "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants."

Cami, this is crazy, all of the links I posted are good places to get genealogy information. If you are talking about the one for KY and IN census, it is good too. Great for anybody looking for roots in KY and IN. Thanks, Cleo >From ladkins@startext.net Fri Jan 01 01:01:16 1999 >Received: from [205.172.60.12] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail3092634075162335065324983450616844439400; Fri Jan 01 01:01:16 1999 >Received: from startext.net (dial61-180.startext.net [205.172.61.180]) > by lepton.startext.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA19862; > Fri, 1 Jan 1999 03:00:34 -0600 (CST) >Message-ID: <368C8FB2.CA0FAE9E@startext.net> >Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 03:04:50 -0600 >From: Cami McCraw <ladkins@startext.net> >Reply-To: ladkins@startext.net >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: cleo hamm <cleohamm@hotmail.com> >CC: TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXORANGE-L] links to genealogy sites >References: <199812311507.HAA14393@law-f82.hotmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >No, I didn't say "they" are worthless -- I said one (out of your list of 5) >was one to beware of. ~ Just one. ~ >(I left what was originally said attached.) >The other 4 look great! >Thanks for posting those 4. >~ Cami ~ > >cleo hamm wrote: > >> Hello to all, >> I don't really know what this is all about but I posted these links as >> they are all useful genealogy links. Why would I bother to post links >> that are not helpful? Cami, if you didn't look at the links I posted, >> why are you saying they are worthless? >> Regards, >> Cleo >> >> >> >> Note from Cami McCraw -- I don't know if these URLs are helpful, but I >> CAN tell you to ignore the URL for "Image Tracers" that she has listed >> here! What no one points out is that it costs alot of $$$. They only >> recently added a very small free Census & that was after being reported >> for spam abuse. Beware & don't waste your time. >> ~ Cami ~ >> >> >cleo hamm wrote: >> > >> >> Hallo all, >> >> Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo >> >> >> >> http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ >> >> ship passenger lists >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm >> >> social security index >> >> http://www.imagin.net/~tracers >> >> Indiana and Kentucky census - Texas records >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/rdcmarr1687.htm >> >> interactive rootsweb list search >> >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ >> >> land records >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

No, I didn't say "they" are worthless -- I said one (out of your list of 5) was one to beware of. ~ Just one. ~ (I left what was originally said attached.) The other 4 look great! Thanks for posting those 4. ~ Cami ~ cleo hamm wrote: > Hello to all, > I don't really know what this is all about but I posted these links as > they are all useful genealogy links. Why would I bother to post links > that are not helpful? Cami, if you didn't look at the links I posted, > why are you saying they are worthless? > Regards, > Cleo > > > > Note from Cami McCraw -- I don't know if these URLs are helpful, but I > CAN tell you to ignore the URL for "Image Tracers" that she has listed > here! What no one points out is that it costs alot of $$$. They only > recently added a very small free Census & that was after being reported > for spam abuse. Beware & don't waste your time. > ~ Cami ~ > > >cleo hamm wrote: > > > >> Hallo all, > >> Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo > >> > >> http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ > >> ship passenger lists > >> http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm > >> social security index > >> http://www.imagin.net/~tracers > >> Indiana and Kentucky census - Texas records > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/rdcmarr1687.htm > >> interactive rootsweb list search > >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ > >> land records > >> > >> ______________________________________________________ > >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Can anyone tell me what gen. societies there are in Orange and surronding areas? Where are information on them and etc? Are there any publications done for the socities? Thanks, Misti Moss mdmoss@pnx.com

Geez Louise! What is this all about? Please tell me what you are talking about Thanks, Cleo >From rootslady@email.msn.com Sun Dec 27 23:17:22 1998 >Received: from default - 208.255.145.182 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; > Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:17:29 -0800 >Message-ID: <00e101be3232$15105ca0$b691ffd0@default> >Reply-To: "RootsLady" <RootsLady@email.msn.com> >From: "RootsLady" <RootsLady@email.msn.com> >To: "cleo hamm" <cleohamm@hotmail.com>, > "TXORANGE-L" <TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [TXORANGE-L] links to genealogy sites >Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:14:20 -0600 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >Return-Path: RootsLady@email.msn.com > >Cleo (et al), >I think unless Image Tracers wishes to receive a bill for advertising that >each of you that subbed to the Texas lists and immediately posted "the" link >should unsub yourselves or restrict yourselves to legitimate county >postings. As listowner of 9 lists that have been spammed with this link I >will do what is necessary to prevent the honest list participants from this >kind of list abuse. > >ListMistress > >-----Original Message----- >From: cleo hamm <cleohamm@hotmail.com> >To: TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com <TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 3:18 AM >Subject: [TXORANGE-L] links to genealogy sites > > >>Hallo all, >>Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo >> ><SNIPPED> >> >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello to all, I don't really know what this is all about but I posted these links as they are all useful genealogy links. Why would I bother to post links that are not helpful? Cami, if you didn't look at the links I posted, why are you saying they are worthless? Regards, Cleo >From ladkins@startext.net Mon Dec 28 02:23:08 1998 >Received: from [205.172.60.12] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail3092293387213702335065324763450616844361760; Mon Dec 28 02:23:08 1998 >Received: from startext.net (dial61-79.startext.net [205.172.61.79]) > by lepton.startext.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA21132; > Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:23:05 -0600 (CST) >Message-ID: <36875D05.254A6A33@startext.net> >Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:27:17 -0600 >From: Cami McCraw <ladkins@startext.net> >Reply-To: ladkins@startext.net >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: cleo hamm <cleohamm@hotmail.com> >CC: TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXORANGE-L] links to genealogy sites >References: <199812100918.BAA00995@law-f104.hotmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Note from Cami McCraw -- I don't know if these URLs are helpful, but I >CAN tell you to ignore the URL for "Image Tracers" that she has listed >here! What no one points out is that it costs alot of $$$. They only >recently added a very small free Census & that was after being reported >for spam abuse. Beware & don't waste your time. >~ Cami ~ > >cleo hamm wrote: > >> Hallo all, >> Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo >> >> http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ >> ship passenger lists >> http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm >> social security index >> http://www.imagin.net/~tracers >> Indiana and Kentucky census - Texas records >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/rdcmarr1687.htm >> interactive rootsweb list search >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ >> land records >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Note from Cami McCraw -- I don't know if these URLs are helpful, but I CAN tell you to ignore the URL for "Image Tracers" that she has listed here! What no one points out is that it costs alot of $$$. They only recently added a very small free Census & that was after being reported for spam abuse. Beware & don't waste your time. ~ Cami ~ cleo hamm wrote: > Hallo all, > Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo > > http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ > ship passenger lists > http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm > social security index > http://www.imagin.net/~tracers > Indiana and Kentucky census - Texas records > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/rdcmarr1687.htm > interactive rootsweb list search > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ > land records > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Cleo (et al), I think unless Image Tracers wishes to receive a bill for advertising that each of you that subbed to the Texas lists and immediately posted "the" link should unsub yourselves or restrict yourselves to legitimate county postings. As listowner of 9 lists that have been spammed with this link I will do what is necessary to prevent the honest list participants from this kind of list abuse. ListMistress -----Original Message----- From: cleo hamm <cleohamm@hotmail.com> To: TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com <TXORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 3:18 AM Subject: [TXORANGE-L] links to genealogy sites >Hallo all, >Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo > <SNIPPED> > >

Hallo all, Here is a list of links with a lot of genealogy info.........Cleo http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ ship passenger lists http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm social security index http://www.imagin.net/~tracers Indiana and Kentucky census - Texas records http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/rdcmarr1687.htm interactive rootsweb list search http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ land records ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, Researchers! Hope everyone is having a great holiday weekend. I just received this copy/paste off of another list: (Cami) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last week the Library of Virginia released several new, or enhanced, online resources of possible interest to this list. Online document images are now available for several electronic indexes as follows: Virginia Revolutionary War Bounty Warrants (http://image.vtls.com/collections/BW.html) Virginia Revolutionary War Pensions (http://image.vtls.com/collections/PE.html) Virginia Revolutionary War Rejected Claims (http://image.vtls.com/collections/RJ.html) Dunmore's War (1774) (http://image.vtls.com/collections/DW.html) S. Bassett French Biographical Sketches (19th century Virginian who compiled notes on prominent Virginians for a planned biographical dictionary). (http://image.vtls.com/collections/BF.html) Confederate Disability Applications (http://eagle.vsla.edu/al) 24,000 digitized images of applications for 6,000 individuals. Fully-searchable database. Guide to Virginia Local Court Records on Microfilm (http://image.vtls.com/Reel461) This resource no longer requires a tiff image viewer and contains many listings from the post-1865 period. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Richard BALLEW had Spanish land grant in what is now Orange County, Texas. His sister, Sinai, married John ENGLISH. He died in Hempstead County, Arkansas in 1821. Sinai may have remarried and may be buried in Orange County. Any information on these families would be appreciated. PAT SHIVELY ELMORE

Richard BALLEW obtained Spanish land grant in what is now Orange County, Texas. His sister Agnes BALLEW married Anthony HADEN in Cape Girardeau County, MO 1805. In 1819 she married Henry CASSIDY in Hempstead County, Arkansas. Any information on these families would be appreciated. PAT SHIVELY ELMORE

Dear List, I'm a new member and recently posted my first genealogical inquiries on this list. Today, however, I'd like to pursue an interest which is as much historical as it is genealogical. MY GGF, Capt. William E. Rogers of Sabine Pass and later Beaumont, was an active steamboatman in that era, liscensed to pilot on the Neches and Sabine rivers. He began his career before the Civil War and was detached from Spaight's Rifles during the conflict as more valuable to the Confederate cause working on the rivers than in uniform. Family tradition has it that among these duties was blockade running, perhaps in small craft to ocean steamers waiting offshore. Among the civilian craft he served on were the Doctor Massey, Florelda, Sunflower, Mary Falvey, Orleans, Uncle Ben, Aegian, Flora, Pelican State, and Emory on river and coastwise service. Moving down a generation, out of the river steamboat era, my paternal grandfather, Green Berry Moore, had - in partnership with a Lou Bettis - a small fleet of tugs or coastwise craft based in Orange late in the 19th century. Both he and I believe Mr. Bettis were drowned (separately or together I don't know) in a hurricane or severe storm in 1897. Is there anyone else out there with an interest in and /or information on the steamboating and early coastwise boating era of SE Texas? I'd be happy to share the modest information I have. [Cross-posting to Jefferson Co. List.] Thank you, Roger Moore Houston, Texas